A great series of interviews on being black/POC in the Goth/Deathrock scenes. Very happy to see Juan Blak interviewed.
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Jacky Blaque
one of the notable lead vocalists for "my life with the thrill kill kult" and one of many amazing black women in the industrial and goth scene
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Vampire: the Masquerade party shot.
I just discovered the L.A. by night podcast and got inspired. I never was a big VtM player and I haven’t played for many years, but always found fascinating the lore and everything else associated
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I feel really sorry for goths who don't live anywhere with an actual, in-person goth scene because that means all they get of other goths is Internet people being stupid. No one at in-person events is debating the precise definition of goth, quizzing you to see how many bands you've heard of, or calling you a poser for wearing a Tom Waits shirt instead of a Bauhaus shirt. That's Internet nonsense right there. People just assume that, if you're at a show, you probably like at least one of the bands performing and, even if you haven't heard of any of them, you're curious enough to support them, coming out to support little bands is good! And I've yet to come across a band say to someone, "sorry, you don't like these specific bands or weren't in the scene for more than x years, so I'm not going to let you buy any of my merch." Most of them are happy to have the support, no matter how involved you are. Another plus: because most shows have smaller, newer bands and most DJ nights play newer bands as well (well, depends on the DJ and usually it's a mix, but I digress), you won't run into people who think that bands who started after 1985 don't count.
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Not Goth enough
I think when it comes to creating a Goth character in fiction, the fashion sense and association with creepiness often comes first before the musical association. I think this is what Kai Decadence brought up when it comes to Goth characters, but if I were to add my take it's like how their spookiness is always played up but it's unfortunately easy to forget that Goth is also the name of a music (sub)genre in punk rock and linked to a musical subculture.
I suppose it would be really rare to find Goth characters who are into Goth music (the Goth music canon often consists of the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy), let alone outside of Goth orientated stories such as Writhe and Shine. I have to bring up these four as they are foundational to the Goth subculture in a way Depeche Mode isn't, that the Cure is one of the few true Goth bands to get any real airplay speaking from personal experience.
It's kind of easy to lump what seems dark and eerie into Goth, but as a musical genre and subculture it doesn't always revolve around it. The earliest Goth bands have their origins in punk rock in some way or another, Bauhaus's David J was part of Jack Plug and the Sockettes, both the Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees started out as punk bands. Even Joy Division started out as the punkier Warsaw, which should tell you about Goth's roots in punk rock. It's that easy to forget that Goth has anything to do with punk rock.
I feel this is a problem with the way a good number of Goth characters are portrayed in fiction that sometimes influences people's misconceptions of Gothdom, even I myself was susceptible to it at one point. Somebody who likes horror isn't necessarily affiliated with the Goth subculture, someone like Hirohiko Araki may enjoy horror films but isn't that deeply into Goth music in any way and he actually listens to Prince more.
Goth is something else altogether by then, it's not merely a love of spooky things but it's its own thing. To put it this way, just because it has anthropomorphic animals doesn't mean it's furry. Plenty of people anthropomorphise animals but have little to no involvement in furry fandom themselves, dressing in animal fancy dress doesn't necessarily make you a furry either. Furry is something else altogether, as evidenced by the existence of fursonas.
Most people who anthropomorphise animals don't have fursonas, so to me a fursona's a big indicator that somebody is a furry. I might be getting off-topic here but this is to give you an idea that Goth is its own thing, separate from horror fandom in other regards. Somebody may like horror films but have no real interest in Goth music themselves, it's easy to get into misconceptions about Goth because we don't really understand the scene from the inside out.
Kai Decadence said that liking Goth music is a big indicator of being Goth, or at least having an idea of what it actually is like. If somebody listens to Goth music, they may not always be Goth themselves (let alone for life), but they know what it actually is contrary to what others think and expect Goth to be.
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