#goth youtuber

[nugothrhythms]

YouTuber Madi Danger put out a video on a bunch of the goth and goth-adjacent bands that put out music in 2023, both albums and singles. There are a wide variety of subgenres included, so she's bound to have brought up something that you like.

Fun fact: I actually saw her when I was at Cruel World last year (at which some of the bands she mentions in here performed). She is in fact as short as she always says.

[gothmusiclatinamerica]

Guess who hit the big 500 on YouTube?

[ciarancreature]

On the Madi Danger discord drama (plus screenshots)

A lot of people on Instagram have been asking about what happened in Madi Danger's discord server, so rather than just telling the story over and over and sending over all the screenshots every time someone asks about it, I'm going to post everything here so it's easier to access and so that more people are aware of her behavior. If anyone wants to harass me about this, I will just block you. I won't engage. I'll turn off anon if necessary. I'm not posting this because I want to rehash old drama or because I want to deal with more, I'm just posting it because so many people have asked about it on Instagram, and because I feel like people should be aware of this behavior since it's coming from someone with a lot of influence in online goth spaces, and goth is not a bigoted subculture.

So here's the story.

I joined Madi's discord server several months ago to find more people to talk about goth music with. Not long after I joined, I was talking to one of her friends, who is an admin in her server, about artists that people claim are goth who aren't, such as Lil Peep and XXXTENTACION. I remarked on the fact that I find it shocking that people can still stand to listen to XXX after hearing about the terrible things he did, and her friend (let's call him G because I don't know his real name) commented that he's "much more comfortable around Norwegian black metal musicians."

Now, to those of you who aren't aware, black metal, especially Norwegian black metal, has a reputation. In the 90s, one of the main ways the black metal scene resisted commodification and played up its shock value was by embracing white supremacy and fascism. It became notorious for extreme racism and church burnings. One of the most famous events in the history of black metal was when Varg Vikernes, probably the most famous black metal musician outside of their circles, murdered Euronymous, the guitarist of the band that they were in together at the time, called Mayhem. Varg has since been released from prison and is currently known for his project Burzum, an extremely anti-Semitic ttrpg he released, denouncing many genres of music because Black people influenced them, and posting lengthy essays and videos on the internet that essentially amount to some of the most racist, anti-Semitic, fascist, conspiracy theory drivel you've ever heard. While black metal has gotten slightly less racist in more recent years (there is even anti-racist and anarchist black metal now), there's still a racism problem in it; there's an entire subgenre dedicated to Nazi sympathizers (NSBM). Not everyone who likes black metal is a racist or a fascist, but it's got enough of a reputation that even metalheads I know who love it stay away from the scene and subculture because the racism is still prevalent.

So, as you can imagine, G's comment, especially in a conversation that had nothing to do with black metal and everything to do with problematic actions of musicians, raised quite a few red flags for me.

I asked him what he meant, and he said that his discord status would clarify his stance. His discord status simply said, "Also on my way to kill Euronymous."

This didn't exactly make me feel better. I kept trying to get him to clarify, because I'm a marginalized person who's witnessed and experienced firsthand how serious fascism and bigotry can be and the dangers they pose. I didn't feel safe sharing a server with someone who might have those types of politics, especially if they were in a position of power. He kept dodging questions; even his partner (also an admin) said he was being cagey. Eventually, I asked him outright if he was a Nazi sympathizer and he STILL refused to give me a straight answer. So I made myself scarce and took down links to my other social media and YouTube channel that I'd posted in the server.

Someone reached out to me via DMs and said he'd down this sort of thing before, and through talking to them and a few others, a troubling picture started to emerge. He'd create problems where there weren't any under the guise of "enforcing the rules" which he himself didn't always follow. He'd delete entire conversations to erase any record that they'd happened. He'd ban people for the tiniest things. At best, he was power-tripping. But I think it was a lot worse than that, because I also learned he'd banned a Jewish user for "being the CEO of anti-goyism" and that he'd deleted a whole conversation about how Nazi fashion in goth and industrial is a bad thing because it wasn't on topic for the server (again, this was a goth server; it was quite relevant and on topic).

Not long after, a few of us confronted him in the server. I don't have many screenshots because he and his partner deleted tons of messages almost instantly, but it did not go well. He and his partner actively tried to silence anyone who said anything that made him look bad, wouldn't let people ask questions, and banned us.

He did all of this in Madi's name, so someone suggested we try talking to her. She was very dismissive. I tried to remain as polite as I could from that point on, because I didn't want to be seen as unreasonable or as a crazy, sensitive trans person. She ended up sending a different admin in her place to talk to our group (I was told by someone else a few days ago that, apparently, this other admin was her boyfriend - something she never once mentioned then or since). I don't have screenshots of the conversation leading up to when I arrived (I was busy that day, and by the time I got there, everyone else had stopped talking to him because they said they were too uncomfortable), but I do have the entire conversation between him and I.

Despite all the screenshots we'd all collected, he said there just wasn't much evidence G had done anything wrong to warrant corrective action or anything else. He wanted us to compromise, but shit down every suggestion that was made. Banning G from the group wasn't on the table, but even taking away his admin status due to his conduct (not even counting the racism) wasn't on the table, either, and a rule against bigotry was deemed to complicated and unenforceable. The only action taken, we were told, was that he was told to warn people before banning them.

I let Madi know what had happened and she accused us of, essentially, storming out, and stood by everything her boyfriend had said. She told me he'd told her that he wasn't a Nazi sympathizer and that since I'd gotten my answer, I should be satisfied. She got very dismissive and dropped all pretense of politeness, so I stopped talking to her and moved on. Those of us who'd left formed our own alt discord server.

Not long after, a mutual on Instagram informed me that he had other screenshots from past incidents (I don't have any of those screenshots, but I can ask if he's willing to share them); apparently, this kind of behavior from her is a pattern, and my encounter with it wasn't the first or last time she's done something like this, and she's begun to develop a reputation.

A few weeks later, I heard she was under fire again for defending a friend wearing a Burzum shirt (Varg's other project, incidentally), so I posted a small message on my Instagram story advising baby bats to avoid her because of this behavior. Despite the fact that she literally had 184x as many followers as me on Instagram alone at the time (I did the math), she found out; apparently, someone told her. She came into my DMs to accuse me of calling her a racist (which I was careful to never do), call me a liar, and tell me I "took a joke too far" and that I "don't understand black metal," because, in her words, the Euronymous jokes and racism are "just memes" that no one in the black metal community takes seriously.

I stepped away again and assumed that was the end of it until a few days ago. Someone else made a post on Instagram promoting her and I left a comment that said, "Too bad she's friends with crypto-fascists." She and her boyfriend found it and started arguing and accusing me of slander and libel in the comments. I don't have screenshots of his comments because he's since blocked me, but I do have hers and I'll be adding them to this post as well.

Her boyfriend then found my Twitter account (my guess is he looked it up to make sure I wasn't posting about her, since she couldn't do it herself because I blocked her months ago). He replied to one of my tweets with a screenshot that had my uncensored discord name and image, so I had to change both, just in case any of her followers managed to find and harass me. I've since blocked them both on all social media.

Here are the screenshots of the entire ordeal. I'll have to add them through several reblogs, because there are tons.

[kokomiin]

[noecoded]

haley sebastian wardrobe swap

[teathattast]

[artificial-absinthe]

Polar Plateau

Alabaster limbs can outlive the nitrogen dew so touch me and I'll be the last thing you touch. Marble limbs hold sway in the polar plateau Where I detest you all I wish you could dissappear.

Polar Plateau (The Frozen Autumn) What if the air suddenly solidifies? Nothing to regret Nothing more to plan. Alabaster limbs can outlive The nitrogen dew So touch me and I'll Be the last thing you touch.

Marble limbs hold sway on the Polar Plateau Where I detest you all I wish you could disappear.

Bury me in Sienna Bury me in blue sand Where the useless things are thrown away and Forgotten Bury me in Sienna Bury me in blue sand On the Polar Plateau My eyes turn electric blue.

What if the air suddenly solidifies? Evidence Becomes eternal Troughs and peaks Streamlining limbs To fit a perfect guise A flawless disguise.

Humdrum action Blindfold reaction Will that soften your heart? Will that soften your heart? Bury me in Sienna Bury me in blue sand On the Polar Plateau Please leave me alone

Bury me in Sienna Bury me in blue sand For I detest you all, I detest you all!

Video lapse with song:

From my Soundwave playlist

Youtube

Colder variation:

Traditional sketch

Had to paint it in digital because I can't paint in traditional for the life of me ;_;

Super Resolution

The song:

[dr-archeville]

Teaser Trailer for Zelda Williams' Lisa Frankenstein (2024) [source]

A coming of RAGE love story from acclaimed writer Diablo Cody (Jennifer’s Body) about a misunderstood teenager and her high school crush, who happens to be a handsome corpse. After a set of playfully horrific circumstances bring him back to life, the two embark on a murderous journey to find love, happiness… and a few missing body parts along the way.

OMG

[queersatanic]

For years, The Satanic Temple has been a hub of abuse. This is the story of how that happened.

The video essayist Dead Domain (also @DomainDead) finally released the video on The Satanic Temple and its owners Cevin Soling (a.k.a. "Malcolm Jarry") and Doug Misicko (a.k.a. "Doug Mesner", "Lucien Greaves").

This might be the most ambitious project ever to detail the actual history and structure of The Satanic Temple (it's about two hours long), and why its owners' interests will make sure that the Temple will always pose the greatest threat not to the Christian right, but to its own members and the most marginalized people in this country.

The Satanic Temple is a threat to the earnest struggle for religious freedom and civil rights, and it must be stopped.

If you aren't already subscribed to Dead Domain on YouTube and/or Twitch, you might like their other stuff. But if you like their video, please also send them a thank you. It is highly  likely that TST will send them some kind of legal threat as well as a swarm of online harassment, and having people counter that could be much appreciated.

It was our pleasure and privilege to be interviewed for this piece and to be able to put some light on the predatory "religion" that we have spent four years fighting across as many courts. The creator has done a magnificent job pulling all these threads together in a way that we've never been capable of doing merely over text.

Check this one out as soon as you can.

[strange-aeons]

MALL GOTH!!

[gothmusiclatinamerica]

I've decided my next video goes up post-Cruel World. It would be the ideal time, everyone is lounging around tired and watching videos to recover.

[marvelousbelladonna]

Flando gets it

[divinebunnii]

needless to say, this look got me laid ~

[kokomiin]

[crybabyboyscout]

Check out my Alternative (Winter) Lookbook 💓