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#he's just as powerful as hades
youregonnabeokay-kid · 8 months
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i think a lot of people (especially those who haven’t read the books) are underestimating Hades
yes, he presents as the sassy queer uncle who’s done with his family’s drama, but he’s not “just some guy”
when his Helm is stolen, no one knows about it. he uses his own resources and orchestrates a plan to bring Percy to the underworld alive, all while managing an entire freaking kingdom
he doesn’t threaten war because he doesn’t have to and he knows it. unlike Zeus, he keeps a level head and thinks about the situation logically
think about Percy’s priorities throughout the show, look at what the flashbacks are teaching us about him and his relationship with others. think logically. this is a 12 year old kid who grew up with a single mom and no friends
his priority is his mom, it’s always been his mom and Hades knows that. Percy’s worst fear is losing his mother and Hades uses that against him
he takes Sally before Poseidon claims Percy because he has eyes everywhere. he already knew who Percy was and he already had a plan formed before Percy even set foot in camp
when he greets Percy and Grover he isn’t surprised, relieved, or agitated because he planned this. he knew that Percy would come to him whether by force or by his own choice (for my book readers, think about this in comparison to how Zeus reacts to the situation. Zeus comes off as desperate and angry, whereas Hades is at ease. annoyed, sure, but never panicked)
when he offers them pomegranate juice it’s in the guise of politeness and humour but it has an underlying meaning. Percy knows the stories about Hades and Hades knows that he knows. the pomegranate juice is a reminder, it’s Hades demonstrating his power without outright threatening Percy. it’s him going “I can make something as small as a pomegranate seed into a weapon” it’s him asserting his dominance and control over the situation
he leads them to a seating area clearly made for their arrival. another reminder that he knew they were coming and Sally stands, frozen in the middle of it as a reminder of what they have to lose
when he learns that it’s Kronos behind the robberies he immediately offers sanctuary to Percy, Grover, and his mom. Kronos, the king of titans, the father of all Gods, and a being who could once tear the world in two with the snap of his fingers, wants Percy, and Hades offers to protect him because he’s that powerful
so yes, Hades makes dad jokes and he talks in a way you wouldn’t expect an all-powerful being to talk, but he isn’t “just some guy”
he’s powerful, he knows it, and he shows just enough of that power to absolutely terrify Percy
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aroaceleovaldez · 8 months
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Nico referring to his mom as "Mama" implies he most likely at least used to refer to Hades as "Papa" and i 100% headcanon he still does but mostly in the manner of him having the entire Underworld wrapped around his finger for being the baby of the family
#pjo#riordanverse#nico di angelo#headcanon#my art#nico flexing youngest child privilages by pulling out the most pitiful expression he can manage#anyways i find it fun to explore character word choices#cause yknow no two characters are going to select their words the same way#or even necessarily think about it to the same degree#i like to think Nico thinks about his word choice a lot#so of course every time he uses ''papa'' he fully knows he's pulling the Baby Of The Family card#Hades definitely knows this too but falls for it every time anyways#cause Nico hasnt called him ''papa'' regularly since getting his memory wiped - just detached ''father'' or at best ''dad''#so it just reminds Hades of How Much He Just Wants His Children To Be Happy Like The Old Days#and how much poor Nico has been through and he's just the baby of the family and-#cue Nico smugly staring at the camera cause he knows how much power he holds#also i say Nico is Hades' only son cause mythologically even when Zagreus *is* Hades' son (rarely) he's. dead.#a major part of Zagreus' mythology is that he died#and im p sure every other deity said to be Hades' children are all goddesses and also are like 50% of the time not his#theres also only like 3 of them. and as far as we know in riordanverse canon one of them is implied to not be his daughter#so Nico is Hades' only son and also youngest in the family (cause Hazel is older by a month chronologically or 1 year biologically)#(and everybody else is a deity if children of hades at all)
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melonymint753 · 4 months
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the fact that Hades in the sequel got his house trashed, status stripped and literally thrown in jail, and is still starting out in a mental state of "at least holding it together" compared to hades 1
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my-pjo-stuff · 29 days
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The day the PJO fandom stops overhyping Percy's strenght and realizes he would have died 10 times over if it weren't for the gods or other special help is the day I can die in peace.
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demeterdefence · 5 months
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LMAOOO im sorry i have been holding it back but i can’t do this that’s persephone. it’s SUPPOSED to be rhea it’s SUPPOSED to be hades’ mom but that is 1000% persephone. anti lo community has been saying this for years but the similarity hits you upside the head with a baseball bat here look at this
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im about to go fucking bonkers
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tennessoui · 8 months
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With the Percy Jackson series coming out right now have you ever thought about a Percy Jackson obikin au?
so it’s been soooo long since I’ve read the books and I really haven’t kept up with the show (though everyone has told me it’s very very good!! and it’s on my to-watch list!)
but with my little memory of the series, I’m thinking of an au where anakin is the son of hades (non negotiable) and obi-wan is the son of ___ (I’m torn but I’m thinking some very minor god)
and when anakin’s like 9, he’s at the age where he for real needs to get to camp because monsters are popping up everywhere and obi-wan’s just some 25 yo bystander dude that takes him in and tries to get this kid to safety — he himself has never been to camp and doesn’t know anything about the Greek gods, but he can see the monsters coming after this little boy so if he says he has to get to Long Island then sure, obi-wan will get him there
When they do finally arrive after many harrowing adventures and close calls, anakin absolutely throws a tantrum (featuring skeletons rising from the underworld) when the camp director tells obi-wan he really should go, thank you for delivering the chosen one safely etc etc because obi-wan’s godly parent is a minor god and he’s basically not that powerful of a demigod anyway and minor godly children don’t really have a place at camp. and obi-wans pretty ok with that cause this isn’t his life anyway
but anakin loves him and anakin wants him around and anakin will hide in obi-wan’s car and steal away from camp to stay with him if he does leave because he’s anakin’s now they’ve trauma bonded on their way across country 😡
so obi-wan gets to stay at camp in the big house and as the years pass he actually becomes assistant camp director and gets more and more authority because even though he doesn’t have a big 12 godly parent or whatever, he’s just so damn likable.
19 year old anakin has known this forever he’s thought obiwan was great for more than half his life at this point. The only thing that would make him better is if he gave in to anakins advances and let him kiss him a little.
meanwhile obiwan is comfortable in this world after a decade being in it and comfortable with the rules and with himself but there’s absolutely no way he’s going to incite the wrath of fucking hades himself by giving into the urge to bang his 19 year old kid, who obi-wan has cared for and known since he was a CHILD.
no thank you. He’s seen the destruction of anakin’s tantrums and he’s pretty sure that rage is hereditary
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happyk44 · 1 year
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Zeus being like "we need to kill our living children because prophecy" and Hades is just "fuck you" and defies Nico and Bianca instead. Bianca is seething when she sees little Percy, Annabeth, and Grover sneak into the Underworld. She's spent way too much time with Zagreus.
But Nico is curious. He thinks the little heroes are cute. Watches them succeed to get around Cerberus. Watches one of them suddenly flying towards the pit. The other two are panicking.
Poor kids, he thinks, and he touches down in front of them. Catches the satyr with one hand. He yanks away, determined to get to the pit but Nico is an unmoving as a dead man. Just stuck to the ground and peeling off his wild shoes with ease. The satyr is lowered gently to the ground. Nico melts the shoes into shadows.
"You look hungry," he says.
They all stare at him. Then scamper into a little clustered triad. The girl nudges the boy and he huffs before clearing his throat.
"Um, Lord Hades-"
Nico's lip twitches. "I am not my father, little demigod. Do you wish to speak with him?" The boy's soul is untamed waves and a hurricane. "Ah. My cousin." He pauses. Gives it a think. "Perseus, right?"
The kid goes a little pink around his cheeks. Flushes down to throat and up through his ears. "Uh, yeah. Um. It's Percy." He blinks. Clears his throat. "Percy Jackson."
Nico thinks about it. "I think I'll just say Perseus, if you don't mind. I quite like it as a name. Strong. Heroic."
"Yeah, sure," Percy says quickly. His soul is a sea of panic. Tinged red around its edges. Tastes syrupy sweet at the back of Nico's throat. "You- I-"
The girl saves him. "We would like to seek an audience with Lord Hades. If we can." After a beat, she tacks on a tinny, "Please."
"Annabeth Chase," Nico says. She stiffens, eyes going big. "Athena's child." He glances over to the satyr. "Grover Underwood. Cute name. Fits you." Grover stammers before thanking him quietly. "My sister is with my father now. I'll see if I can steer her away. She's not always the best company to have when speaking with Papa. Especially with what is going on now."
The kids twitch and he stifles the urge to giggle.
The ground melts beneath them. They gasp aloud as earth turns to obsidian tile. His room is clean and tidy. Filled to the brim with silly junk throughout history. Trinkets and toys he's picked up from his travels too.
"You can wait here," he says. And he disappears without another word.
It takes longer than it should, to steer Bianca out of the way. Hades is no help. Bemused all the while. Nico tries to get him to take a nicer stance, but he's stubborn. Normally so is Nico, but he can't imagine the trio in his bedroom are taking his absence easily, so he caves and let's his father being as intimidating as he wants.
Personally, Nico can't see it. His father is his father. Whether he's twenty-feet tall with black eyes and a crown of nightmares, or six foot six with warm hands and smiles.
"Be nice, Papa," he says as he guides the children into the throne room.
Hades grunts and glares down at his nephew. Nico sighs and stands in the back. They are children. Perhaps if they were older he'd care less. But he remembers what it is to be twelve years old and staring at a god that wished you were dead an unbreathing.
It is haunting and hurting.
They speak and it's confusing. The children are lost with every word his father speaks. His father is getting more and more annoyed with every word they speak.
No one is lying, but no one has the reality of the situation at hand. Nico strides forwards, out of the shadows. Hades's eyes are angry, but he quiets. He does not like to shout in front of Nico. Not when the anger rockets back at Nico's soul like a mirror and leaves him winded. The trio goes silent.
He slides his hands through the flimsy material of the backpack. Electricity crackles at his skin. He flinches and steps back.
Percy is confused. His soul is a crashing thing, drowning his mind in panic untold. Annabeth is horrified. Her soul is sputtering. There is no logic to this. No facts to back up what she has discovered. She is unsure, for the first time in her life. Grover is on the verge of fainting.
"He didn't know," Nico says. "None of them did."
Hades scoffs, but let's Nico flip through the pages of their souls like a history book. Ares and the backpack. But that is not possible. He cannot touch his father's bolt, or Hades's helm. Not without permission and certainly not with his own bare hands. Further back, there is a face. Scarred and angry. He is giving Percy the shoes.
Grover takes them when his back is turned.
Smart creature, Nico thinks.
He lets goes and the trio breathes.
"There is a boy," he says. "I'll need to look at him, but I feel he has orchestrated this mess."
Hades's lips curl. He is unhappy. He wanted to blast his nephew to pieces and lock the others up for their troubles in bringing him along.
"You have got to stop talking to Bianca," Nico huffs. "Give me a day. I will head to camp-"
"No," Hades says.
Everything topples downhill. The Furies descend. Skeletons take charge. Shadows whip and hiss like volatile snakes.
Nico blinks and they are gone. Sunny grass, untouched by darkness. There's the crashing of the waves behind him. The kids are gasping. Nico steadies their ever-changing souls, collisions of nauseous colours.
"My mom," Percy gasps. His voice is on the edge of tears.
Nico stares at him. Then presses a cold hand to his shoulder. "She will be fine. My father knows what it is to have a mother lost to their child. She is a guest, although unwilling. No harm shall come to her."
"How-" Annabeth presses small hands to her face. "The bolt- how-"
"Luke Castellan," Nico says. "Is he a kind boy?"
Annabeth twitches, stares up at him, frustrated, confused. Grover answers in her stead. "He's a good person."
"Hmm." Nico turns to see his cousin waiting for them on the sand. "Even good people can be turned to do terrible things. Many people do terrible things in the name of good."
Percys soul gardens when he catches sight of their shared cousin. Ares's demeanour does nothing for Nico. But it fills the crevices of Percy's misery with boiling rage. Nico squeezes along his shoulder. Mats his soul with a softening quell.
"Breathe," he says. Ares approaches. Too calm. Too steady. The people around him scatter with every step. "Ares, you are an idiot." Dreams are awash in his soul. He is faintly pressed behind a matte wall. He laughs, carefree, amused. But behind that wall, his truer self is screaming. "I much prefer it when my sisters bully you. Rather than whoever is doing so now. Did you not notice the memories in your head turned awry?"
He scoffs. They banter. Nico lets Percy, angry and distressed at being played with, take the fight. He remembers the ways he wished his father would let him knock their family down a peg. When his siblings were blasted apart miles away in another state. His mother electrocuted and turned to ash in front of his very eyes.
As Ares lay panting on the sand, Nico takes a hold of his soul and clears the wall away.
"Next time stay vigilant. What would your mother think of you working with her father in this way?" He flicks the other god's forehead and watches him rocket down into the earth. The kids stare at him. Awed. Confused. Percy is wet and breathing hard, pink around his ears.
"You should return the bolt," Nico says. The wind sweeps. "In the meantime, this prophecy has waited far too long to pass." He sighs. "It should've been me. Or my sister. Someone long before your time, Perseus."
Nico pats his head and he squeaks. It's adorable.
"I will assist where I can," he says. He presses a token into Percy's hand. The other two jolt as similiar beads tuck into the flat of their palms. "Just give me a call."
The earth gives out beneath their feet and they disappear into sand and darkness. Nico runs his wrists over one another and glances up to the mortals pooling around the beach. Police officers looking mystified at the sudden absence of the two players in their so-called gun fight.
He will string a tale into their cores, a belief so certain no one can dash it away. And then he will retire to his father's side just as he did when he was ten years old, the stains of his mother's death lingering on his skin.
Certainly the three of them will make use of his tokens in due time. He will wait for them to do so.
And then he will help.
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gundamcalibarney · 6 days
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i think it would be funny if circe appeared a game early and then just gives you a “”””boon”””” that briefly turns you into a funny animal for a set amount of chambers
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idiotwhotalkstoomuch · 3 months
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Theory for Zagreus so its been circulating that his titan blood was the blood sacrifices he’s referring to but I’m thinkin maybe that’s not the case. I think the satyrs did the sacrifices but due to them being at the temple right close by and due to Zagreus affecting time in some way with his weapons from other worlds and times, Chronos is aware of his potential and realized he was the god of blood so ate him to complete his blood sacrifices and be able to reach Olympus.
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noahmullariii · 6 months
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So Michael Yew is canonically a ghost.
His body was never found which means he never got a funeral.
In Ancient Greece funerals were kind of a big deal. Greeks didn't hold them just to say goodbye to their loved ones, they believed a funeral was the only way for the dead to get to Hades. No proper burial - no proper afterlife. You're stuck upstairs. Not to mention refusing to bury your dead or waiting too long to do it was extremely disrespectful to the gods. That's why Achilles dragging Hector's corpse around in the Iliad was such a horrifically wrong move on his part. Killing him was righteous revenge but parading his corpse was a terrible insult.
And Michael, the poor lad, never got a proper burial. I guess Rick never thought of the implications of that. He's haunting his siblings as we speak. Maybe Nico can send him down the Bryce Lawrence way though technically this way shouldn't be possible either. Bryce's ghost should have remained upstairs after Nico pulled it out of his body. He should have been required to be buried afterwards. But that's a debate to have some other time.
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whoops-im-obsessed · 6 months
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Idk if this is anything but UK Orpheus, Hades, and Hermes appearing to be the only ones with non-British accents and how it sets them apart from Eurydice and the workers as 'other'
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raineyraven · 9 months
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okay in my third playthrough of stray gods now and i only just got to the dialogue options with persephone where she explains her relationship with hades, how he doted on her to control her and how she convinced herself her kidnapping was a good thing, and how apollo didnt help her when she was trying to get to her mother and like. fuckin holy shit dude.
this game in general is just a punch to the gut. the lore is as dark and gross as the original myths were, while many other adaptions file down the claws of the original myths. but stray gods doesn't even follow the original myths much, focusing much more on the life of the idols in the last two or so centuries. it's so creative how they adapt these characters to be so unlike our expectations of what they would be like but maintain the dark themes present in their myths. the greek gods in this game are so different to all other interpretations, yet they feel so genuine.
i LOVE playing a game that doesn't soften any blows, it's incredible.
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cephalofrog · 4 months
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hades 2 story discussion
if it weren't SGG making Hades 2 I'd definitely be worried about them falling into the "oh this character makes good points BUT he also kicks puppies therefore you know he is evil" thing with chronos. like he is absolutely correct that the underworld sucks ass and also that the fates probably have too much power but he also does literally kick a dog (out of the underworld into the fields of mourning) every single time u do a run. that being said I've played pyre and bastion so I'm pretty confident on SGG actually addressing that part of the game in a satisfying way
I think one of the issues with Hades 1 (honestly not really an issue per se, more just a thing to note) is the fact that despite zag helping a bunch of people with the shitty systems of the underworld it still left those systems unchanged. like it kinda worked as a dark comedic type beat almost? like "well life ain't perfect but at least it's a bit better". but Hades 2 does feel like it's noticed the issues Hades 1 left behind and is working to resolve them in-universe (at least, in a roundabout way).
that being said if they don't end up addressing these things and instead have a "chronos is beaten, fates are saved and just get back to their jobs, Hades (or someone else) goes back to running the underworld as it was" type beat I will take the L and become the unironic chronos apologist of the fandom. he may be a stinky old man but at least he's anti-monarchist yk
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bloomingbluebell · 1 month
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if there's a zagreus fight in hades 2 and melinoë doesn't say his name in that same incredibly frustrated and furious tone as hades in his fight during the first game, i am going to be SO disappointed
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chamiryokuroi · 8 months
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CHAMI!
ive been meaning to ask you this ever since you said you're reading the pjo/hoo/toa/*imsert rr acronym here*. what's your favorite character so far, excluding percy and annabeth? (im excluding them simply bc they're everyone's favorite. it's hard not to love them)
my favorite from the moment i read hoo, was always jason grace. i thought he was the coolest. the lightning powers, the roman-ness, the being raised by wolves for a year, the way he could make practical decisions even if they were kinda callous. (see: leaving nico in yhe jar) god i still remember the shock of coming online for the first time and realizing that everyone hated him. it really does suck that rr had no interest in developing his and the romans backstories.
tldr: who's your favorite character? what do you think about jason? and lastly, what's your biggest issue with rr's writing?
as always, sending you lots of love! <33333
Lmao I’m sorry I forgot about this ask until right now 😬 ok but now to answer your question my favorite (aside from Percy because Percy is the best) has to be the a tie between Nico and Hazel, I just love the Hades kids and their stories, they have such sad backstories but they’re doing their best (eventually, yes I am looking at you Nico, you know what you did, not you Hazel, you’re an angel and we’re so glad you’re here). Also the fact that their powers are absolutely badass and I love to see them showing off during a fight.
I love Jason, not gonna lie I was kinda angry at him too during that whole thing with Nico, but then I remember he was basically raised as a soldier so it makes sense why he said that, but also later on he is such a good friend to Nico. He definitely deserved better and I am so sad he had to die (absolutely hated Hera crying about him tho like bitch you were the cause of 99% of his problems the fuck are you crying for????)
I think my biggest issue with the writing is that sometimes it does feel too fanfic, like sometimes the story advances way too fast and we don’t get the development we could on the characters, then again this is a kids book series so it is understandable they need to keep their attention.
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zukoandtheoc · 5 months
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hey so i got boons from everyone possible to get boons from
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