#his solo one not vlogbrothers

[britneyshakespeare]

when john green said “people are like ‘are you sure that you’re gonna go to heaven when you die’ no. no of course not. i’m in the parking lot of target right now and i’m not even sure i’m gonna go to target” i felt that

[carefullfearr]

hiii i'm kinda new here so i don't really know what exactly happened that tumblr bullied John green off this site. (apart from the Anne Frank museum scene) I've read some stuff here and there but idk the details :( so I'd love it if you could explain some of it?

Yeah, fer sure. There’s a couple of different angles to this situation, and there are some folks who provided more information in the notes of my other post. I absolutely might miss some stuff or misspeak and I bet there’ll be folks in the notes who will Let Me Know. I took some time to research but a lot of this is from my human memory so please be kind if I get something wrong.

So basically, at the height of the Green Brothers’ influence, they ran a number of different entities associated with their media empire. One of them, DFTBA Records, was created to sign and distribute music from YouTube based artists. It also distributed merch from various online personalities that were in this orbit. Their reach online was huge- vlogbrothers was still going on, they started VidCon, etc etc.

At the same time, the Green brothers were experiencing a bit of a backlash on tumblr. There was a very particular vocabulary that they and the people in their fandom used, and to some folks around here it felt very infantilizing and “cringey”. JG was also up to some absolutely ridiculous behavior that I don’t really think I’ve got the time to get into, but suffice it to say that he has a tremendous track record for putting his foot in his mouth outside of tumblr, too. To people who weren’t impressed by his work, he was very easy to dislike.

Cringe is a word that I absolutely agree has been weaponized against vulnerable groups such as neurodivergent people. However, I think there was another understanding of the word at the time that described adults inserting themselves into children’s spaces. The “hello, fellow kids” kind of behavior. I think that was what we were responding to, but we didn’t have the vocabulary or sitewide maturity to identify it.

So, given the culture on the site? There was absolutely some bullying going on. At the time, you could edit other people’s posts, and so the “cock monologue” wasn’t the only time John Green’s posts got vandalized. But here’s the thing- John Green was a very powerful person in this space. He’s an adult and he was interacting with some very young fans and some people, myself included, thought there should have been some firmer boundaries. He was being treated like a substitute teacher by a rowdy group of kids, and he couldn’t take the jokes. At the time, messaging and commenting features were pretty much in beta, and perceived temper tantrums from JG sometimes overlapped with outages in those features. We joked at the time that he was going all the way to tumblr hq to get them to stop the kids from cyber bullying him, but there isn’t actually proof that that’s what was happening.

So back to the YouTube musicians. For a few of them, Tom Milsom in particular, it was an open secret that they had very young girlfriends who had been former fans of theirs. Hank Green admits to being aware of these inappropriate relationships, but he brushed it off and described one girl in particular as a “cool fan who could hold her own.” There have been anecdotal accounts that during this time, the Greens warned girls away from getting close to particular people, but they did nothing to prevent this behavior. Things came to a head when a few former partners of Alex Day, a member of a Doctor Who themed band named “Chameleon Circuit” and who also released solo work on DFTBA, came out to allege that Day had coerced them into sex when they were not comfortable or ready. Initially Day denied these accusations, but later admitted that he had engaged in misconduct. This cascaded into more and more accusations, eventually totaling in nine musicians from DFTBA facing credible accusations of rape, grooming, and in one case possession of CP. Many of these survivors were former fans, and they were preyed upon by their abusers because of the poor boundaries in the culture fostered by DFTBA records and the greater Green Brothers scene. Hank green made a statement on his tumblr (John notably did Not) where he expressed surprise and grief over these accusations. The accused artists were kicked from the label and everybody stopped talking about it.

Well. Aside from when one person involved, edplant, returned to the internet. JG tweeted “welcome back” to that guy.

So remember the cyber bullying? Well somebody edited a post to make it look like John Green was rhapsodizing about liking to suck dick. JG, once again unable to interact with children normally, throws a fit. See, I’ve worked with kids before. I’ve been “bullied” by literal 12 year olds working as a teacher’s aide. And the only thing you can do is find it very, very funny that a child thinks they can hurt your feelings. That’s it! You’ve gotta roll with it. Either ignore them or laugh about it. I don’t know if it was really a kid or a teen who did it. But it was kid or teen behavior. Shortly after this, the loophole allowing users to edit other people’s posts was closed.

A lot of people remember John Green leaving the platform after that. But he actually stuck around for a while. It wasn’t until a now deactivated user made a post comparing him to a creep who sits a liiittle too close to the kids in the pool at functions. Here's the quote:

I bet John Green thinks people don't like him because he's a dork or a nerd or whatever, when in reality it's because he's a creep who panders to teenage girls so that he can amass some weird cult-like following. And it's always girls who feel misunderstood, you know, and he goes out of his way to make them feel important and desirable. Which is fucking weird. Also he has a social media presence that is equivalent to that dad of a kid in your friend group who always volunteers to 'supervise' the pool parties and scoots his lawn chair close to all the girls.

John Green took this opportunity to clarify that he, personally, has NEVER HARMED A CHILD. His response made it sound like she was accusing him of something and, because he was a much more powerful user, that was the version of the story that went around. This incident breached tumblr containment and led to a number of other YA authors making statements about how absurd the allegations were. The user who made that comment was for real cyberbullied off the platform. She recieved hateful messages and death threats from Green’s fans to the point that this site was unusable for her. Shortly after that, John Green also left tumblr.

The catalyst for my post was a TikTok made by Hank Green where he insinuates that, for no reason and in pure mean spirit, rapscallions on tumblr had ousted John Green with the infamous cock monologue. That got my blood boiling because no, that wasn’t what happened, and the kids on TikTok weren’t there to know the difference. There was a combination of people finding John Green's online persona off putting and creepy, actual sex abuse scandals in his orbit, the nonexistent boundaries between him and his young, vulnerable fans. It’s the most popular post I’ve ever made and I honestly regret posting something short and angry without corroborating information. If I’d known, I would have included some links! I have tried to be fair here but I have no respect for either of the Greens. There are a bunch of other reasons to dislike John Green- he has said some truly dumb and unkind things over the years. But ultimately he is a self important jerk who hid behind performative kindness and lukewarm progressive ideals that didn’t seem genuine in order to generate a cult of personality targeted at vulnerable, lonely kids and then he didn’t take that responsibility as seriously as he should have. And then kids got hurt.

[road2nf]

Thanks to Hank, I will forever remember what helicase is.

I first entered the Nerdfighter community after reading John’s four solo novels.

I’m pretty new to the community, but I feel totally welcome. My best friend was down for a visit, and told me that not only did John write books (she was the one who recommended his books to me in the first place), him and his brother Hank also has a YouTube channel.

I hadn’t ever really watched that much YouTube. One day, I sat down for about two hours and just watched a crap ton of Vlogbrothers videos. They were the first channel I subscribed to! Through the Nerdfighter community I have fully embraced my nerdiness. It is so easy to be completely myself when I can see people doing the same.

Through John I also heard about Esther and her book (This Star Won’t Go Out).’

I am so grateful to join and the Earl family for giving me the chance to get to know Esther. Through all of this I have been encouraged to get more involved in the online community, read LOTS of books, and just generally be more exciting and liking of people.

I am also a huge fan of Crash Course!

Thanks to Hank, I will forever remember what helicase is.

(like a teenage boy, it wants to unzip your genes)

Thank you John, Hank, and Nerdfighteria. Never stop what you do, and DFTBA!

- Ashlind

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The Nerdfighter community helps me keep my view on the world positive. It’s also a very educational place, and I’ve met awesome people because of it.

With all the world suck that floats around, it’s great to know of a community that encourages and offers ways of fighting it, even if you can’t do the big things like vote or drive a car or donate huge amounts of money to charity.

I’m glad to be a part of it.

- Hannah (extermiknit.tumblr)

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John and Hank have educated me on numerous topics. They have made me excited about learning and made me conscious of myths, jokes, and world issues.

The world is a better place because of them, and I am a better person.

Thank you.

- Rylee (loverofcas.tumblr)

[javleech-blog]

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INSIDE PATREON, THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF INTERNET CULTURE

  In 2013, Peter Hollens changed into an aspiring a cappella singer surviving, in his phrases, by using living on ramen in someone else’s residence. Hollens was rarely new to the song business; he’d been a report producer and cruise singer earlier than placing out on his person, and his wife Evynne co-based the college a cappella group that inspired Pitch Perfect. His elaborate, multi-layered covers of father songs had won him a dedicated following, but none of that translated to monetary success. He changed into unsigned, track sales on systems like iTunes have been unpredictable, YouTube advertising and marketing sales become “minuscule,” and in view that he covered other artists’ paintings, sponsor deals have been legally complicated.

Then, Hollens got 3 fast-fireplace messages from lovers, asking him to sign up for a brand new platform called Patreon. Patreon became similar to crowdfunding web sites like Kickstarter and Indiegogo, however rather than pledging towards a one-time campaign, supporters should provide to pay some dollars on every occasion Hollens released a track video, with Patreon taking a five percent cut. Four years later, around 3,600 people are paying Hollens over $thirteen,000 two times a month for a new video, and Hollens is a dedicated evangelist. “I think each single artist and author, every body who desires to make a dwelling, have to have a Patreon,” he advised me at this year’s Vidcon, a video convention in which he completed as a featured writer. “You’re talking to the maximum biased person because it’s actually been the whole lot for me.”

“YOU’RE TALKING TO THE MOST BIASED PERSON BECAUSE IT’S LITERALLY BEEN EVERYTHING FOR ME.” Though now not every body is so effusive approximately Patreon, each at Vidcon and in the large creative network, the service evokes praise that would be nearly unfathomable for most net platforms. YouTube video creators, who comprise much of Paterson’s top echelon, treat their platform with open mistrust — mainly at Vidcon, at a time when many of them see the website’s recent “apocalypse” threatening their income. Meanwhile, Patreon’s undertaking announcement — “helping creators get paid” — drew cheers at a couple of panels.

As its name suggests, Patreon is loosely modeled on the humanities patronage device of the Renaissance, which produced masterworks like Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel. It’s the state-of-the-art flip in the never-finishing cycle of ways people have funded “free” artwork, from federal presents to corporate sponsorships too, most currently, affect-based advertising. While Kickstarter revolutionized how people improve cash for games, devices, and other merchandise, Patreon are aiming for something a long way more formidable: “We need to fund the innovative elegance,” CEO and co-founder Jack Conte tells me. “Ten years from now, we need youngsters developing up and graduating college and excessive college to recognize that being a professional writer is possible. We’re taking pictures for this cultural sea change.”

Patreon isn’t really an alternative for document labels or TV networks, though. Instead, it’s the suitable incubator for niche net subcultures, in which a small but committed institution of fans can without delay guide work they care about. That includes traditional arts and leisure, however also YouTube celebrities, cultural figures, or maybe political moves — a few inspiring, a few troubling. The Patreon model encourages humans to look themselves now not as clients, but as participants of a non-public membership, free from the restrictions of mainstream gatekeepers or mass-market enchantment. And inside the manner, it’s blurred the strains among artwork, artist, and target market in an exceptional way.

  In 2013, Patreon’s destiny CEO Jack Conte become referred to as a musician, comprising one-1/2 of the quirky indie duo Pomplamoose. He became conceiving a video for his solo tune “Pedals” — an elaborate 4-minute manufacturing that featured a spaceship-like set straight out of a ‘70s sci-fi film, entire with shifting mechanical parts and making a song robots. Conte estimated that once it turned into complete, the video would possibly get one million perspectives on YouTube over the route of the yr, which might translate to $one hundred in advert revenue. He’d spent 3 months and $10,000 on it.

On YouTube, Conte earned a fragment of a cent for every character who watched “Pedals.” But if even some of those humans placed a dollar in an internet tip jar, Conte figured, that math could change dramatically. And what if people also agreed to support his destiny movies — and every other artist may want to do the same factor? Conte cited the concept to entrepreneur Sam Yam, an old university roommate and founder of mobile marketing business enterprise AdWhirl. Yam cherished it, and after months of development, they released an early model of Patreon in May 2013.

FROM NICHE CREATORS TO SMALL MEDIA EMPIRES Conte had anticipated that humans might pledge a greenback or in keeping with video. But within a couple of weeks, he changed into making round $four,000 for everyone, with the common customer paying a full $9. The films had been still freely available on YouTube, but purchasers were given access to a one-of-a-kind feed of updates, first dibs on stay concert tickets, and other small perks. Early adopters like Hollens began joining the platform, and these days, Patreon boasts 50,000 energetic creators and over one million lively consumers.

Patreon continues to be tiny compared to Kickstarter, in which 13 million backers have funded 128,000 successful campaigns, but it’s rapidly growing. Half its purchasers and creators joined within the beyond yr, and it’s set to method $a hundred and fifty million in 2017, as compared to $a hundred million overall over the past three years. The employer itself has raised $47 million in funding, most recently with a $30 million round in January 2016. Conte is still investment his solo song on Patreon, and so is Pomplamoose, which nets $5,000 a track from around 1, seven hundred supporters.

  The Patreon model isn’t that specific from the only museum or public radio donations. At release, some people additionally referred to parallels with the paid club membership for Pete Abrams’ webcomic Sluggy Freelance. But Patreon makes it clean for everybody to installation and control their very own version of this system, and not like a common on line tip jar, it offers a relied on platform with an emblem-call appeal.

Initially referred to as a haven for niche creators, Patreon is an increasing number of investment small media empires. YouTube star Philip DeFranco, formerly part of Discovery-subsidized conglomerate Group Nine Media, left in May to set up a Patreon-funded news community. Complexly, an organisation founded with the aid of Hank and John Green of Vlogbrothers repute, runs a half-dozen Patreons that help guide academic indicates like Crash Course (around $28, three hundred / month), SciShow ($21,800 / month), and How to Adult (a extensively smaller $one zero one / month). Patreon even introduced a brand new, extra buttoned-down layout in June, emphasizing its function as a platform for groups, not just digital buskers.

[lavleech-blog]

INSIDE PATREON, THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF INTERNET CULTURE

New Post has been published on https://javleech.com/inside-patreon-the-economic-engine-of-internet-culture/

INSIDE PATREON, THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF INTERNET CULTURE

  In 2013, Peter Hollens changed into an aspiring a cappella singer surviving, in his phrases, by using living on ramen in someone else’s residence. Hollens was rarely new to the song business; he’d been a report producer and cruise singer earlier than placing out on his person, and his wife Evynne co-based the college a cappella group that inspired Pitch Perfect. His elaborate, multi-layered covers of father songs had won him a dedicated following, but none of that translated to monetary success. He changed into unsigned, track sales on systems like iTunes have been unpredictable, YouTube advertising and marketing sales become “minuscule,” and in view that he covered other artists’ paintings, sponsor deals have been legally complicated.

Then, Hollens got 3 fast-fireplace messages from lovers, asking him to sign up for a brand new platform called Patreon. Patreon became similar to crowdfunding web sites like Kickstarter and Indiegogo, however rather than pledging towards a one-time campaign, supporters should provide to pay some dollars on every occasion Hollens released a track video, with Patreon taking a five percent cut. Four years later, around 3,600 people are paying Hollens over $thirteen,000 two times a month for a new video, and Hollens is a dedicated evangelist. “I think each single artist and author, every body who desires to make a dwelling, have to have a Patreon,” he advised me at this year’s Vidcon, a video convention in which he completed as a featured writer. “You’re talking to the maximum biased person because it’s actually been the whole lot for me.”

“YOU’RE TALKING TO THE MOST BIASED PERSON BECAUSE IT’S LITERALLY BEEN EVERYTHING FOR ME.” Though now not every body is so effusive approximately Patreon, each at Vidcon and in the large creative network, the service evokes praise that would be nearly unfathomable for most net platforms. YouTube video creators, who comprise much of Paterson’s top echelon, treat their platform with open mistrust — mainly at Vidcon, at a time when many of them see the website’s recent “apocalypse” threatening their income. Meanwhile, Patreon’s undertaking announcement — “helping creators get paid” — drew cheers at a couple of panels.

As its name suggests, Patreon is loosely modeled on the humanities patronage device of the Renaissance, which produced masterworks like Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel. It’s the state-of-the-art flip in the never-finishing cycle of ways people have funded “free” artwork, from federal presents to corporate sponsorships too, most currently, affect-based advertising. While Kickstarter revolutionized how people improve cash for games, devices, and other merchandise, Patreon are aiming for something a long way more formidable: “We need to fund the innovative elegance,” CEO and co-founder Jack Conte tells me. “Ten years from now, we need youngsters developing up and graduating college and excessive college to recognize that being a professional writer is possible. We’re taking pictures for this cultural sea change.”

Patreon isn’t really an alternative for document labels or TV networks, though. Instead, it’s the suitable incubator for niche net subcultures, in which a small but committed institution of fans can without delay guide work they care about. That includes traditional arts and leisure, however also YouTube celebrities, cultural figures, or maybe political moves — a few inspiring, a few troubling. The Patreon model encourages humans to look themselves now not as clients, but as participants of a non-public membership, free from the restrictions of mainstream gatekeepers or mass-market enchantment. And inside the manner, it’s blurred the strains among artwork, artist, and target market in an exceptional way.

  In 2013, Patreon’s destiny CEO Jack Conte become referred to as a musician, comprising one-1/2 of the quirky indie duo Pomplamoose. He became conceiving a video for his solo tune “Pedals” — an elaborate 4-minute manufacturing that featured a spaceship-like set straight out of a ‘70s sci-fi film, entire with shifting mechanical parts and making a song robots. Conte estimated that once it turned into complete, the video would possibly get one million perspectives on YouTube over the route of the yr, which might translate to $one hundred in advert revenue. He’d spent 3 months and $10,000 on it.

On YouTube, Conte earned a fragment of a cent for every character who watched “Pedals.” But if even some of those humans placed a dollar in an internet tip jar, Conte figured, that math could change dramatically. And what if people also agreed to support his destiny movies — and every other artist may want to do the same factor? Conte cited the concept to entrepreneur Sam Yam, an old university roommate and founder of mobile marketing business enterprise AdWhirl. Yam cherished it, and after months of development, they released an early model of Patreon in May 2013.

FROM NICHE CREATORS TO SMALL MEDIA EMPIRES Conte had anticipated that humans might pledge a greenback or in keeping with video. But within a couple of weeks, he changed into making round $four,000 for everyone, with the common customer paying a full $9. The films had been still freely available on YouTube, but purchasers were given access to a one-of-a-kind feed of updates, first dibs on stay concert tickets, and other small perks. Early adopters like Hollens began joining the platform, and these days, Patreon boasts 50,000 energetic creators and over one million lively consumers.

Patreon continues to be tiny compared to Kickstarter, in which 13 million backers have funded 128,000 successful campaigns, but it’s rapidly growing. Half its purchasers and creators joined within the beyond yr, and it’s set to method $a hundred and fifty million in 2017, as compared to $a hundred million overall over the past three years. The employer itself has raised $47 million in funding, most recently with a $30 million round in January 2016. Conte is still investment his solo song on Patreon, and so is Pomplamoose, which nets $5,000 a track from around 1, seven hundred supporters.

  The Patreon model isn’t that specific from the only museum or public radio donations. At release, some people additionally referred to parallels with the paid club membership for Pete Abrams’ webcomic Sluggy Freelance. But Patreon makes it clean for everybody to installation and control their very own version of this system, and not like a common on line tip jar, it offers a relied on platform with an emblem-call appeal.

Initially referred to as a haven for niche creators, Patreon is an increasing number of investment small media empires. YouTube star Philip DeFranco, formerly part of Discovery-subsidized conglomerate Group Nine Media, left in May to set up a Patreon-funded news community. Complexly, an organisation founded with the aid of Hank and John Green of Vlogbrothers repute, runs a half-dozen Patreons that help guide academic indicates like Crash Course (around $28, three hundred / month), SciShow ($21,800 / month), and How to Adult (a extensively smaller $one zero one / month). Patreon even introduced a brand new, extra buttoned-down layout in June, emphasizing its function as a platform for groups, not just digital buskers.