#kakaobi meta

[itischeese]

yeah, your body moving automatically to save someone is good and all, but have you considered the inherent love required to see what’s about to happen, to know what will happen to you if you save them, and to do it anyway, because even though it might kill you, they’ll survive, and in the end that matters far more, because they’re worth it, in the end?

Yes, this post is about Kakaobi.

[aribluart]

Getting the sharingan? No problem. But one tomoe is overrated, why not directly two.

Oh, "sharingan sharing" is clan-exclusive? Too bad. Also, never asking that sharingan back? And, the two sharingan can "harmonize" (the italian translation use a similar word) and let Obito and Kakashi share sight, hearing and mind? Yeah, Obito absolutely has no feelings for Kakashi, no way that is the reason for him to make a self-destructive choice, what a foolish theory.

Honestly, I don't know (no really, Madara, what do you mean Obito "passed through" the rocks???? Before he get his Mangekyou sharingan????).

A dimension that is accesible only by two people? How that is even possible,only Kaguya could travel between dimensions, apparently five and Kamui it's not one of them. Obito, what the fuck.

[jaguarys]

Hello! I would really like to hear your thoughts on Kakashi and Obito, both as individuals and also their relationship, if you have any. Hope you're having a great day!! ♡♡

Thank you for asking!!

In general, neither Obito nor Kakashi are characters that I'm particularly obsessed with, but I do absolutely adore Rin and as such I've analyzed them a bit. That being said, there's a lot of info on Team Minato that comes only from the anime so admittedly I can't speak to that.

I'm not really a fan of Obito's writing because I just don't think it's.... compelling, for lack of a better word. I think this is a common issue with Naruto villains in general (sometimes their motivations are.... flimsy) though, so I'm not singling him out lmao

I truly think Obito (and a lot of Naruto characters) are best analyzed when it comes to their dynamics and relationships, and Team Minato is a very good example. The way they interact and the good old 3-teammate dynamic and its inter-reliance is <333. I think there's a unique dynamic that just comes fro 3 little 12 year olds relying on each other to just... stay alive, and I think there's an added layer there when you have characters who don't even really Like Each Other like with Team Minato. Having to protect people who you don't like, having to rely on people you don't trust, and having to deal with this, etc. It's great.

I'm pretty neutral on ObiKaka as a ship overall, but I do think there's an inherent romanticism to Kakashi literally having his eye..... brrrrrr

[huskymaine]

If you don't mind, could you tell your opinion abt kakaobi? I get quite curious abt it when I read your last post (also, I like and agree with your thoughts!)

Thanks for the ask, and of course I don't mind hehe

My opinion of KakaObi? In short, I love their relationship and always happy to see contents about their bond, be it friendship, rival, romantic, etc <3 <3 <3

As I said on this post, as detective/deduction nerds I have an unhealthy attachment toward Tobi unmasking plot twist, so that particular plot point managed to drag me back to re-watching Naruto twice. Like, the chilling music, the tense situation, Hatake always-calm-reliable Kakashi’s panicked breathing, the all-knowing-mastermind Tobi ‘Madara’ gradually lost his control, the way that the reveal of Tobi’s real identity is not the end, but in fact like opening a can of worm... Truly, everything happened on that scene make me gritted my nails hard. So I find that to enjoy the most impact of that scene is by understanding the bond between Kakashi and Obito, and voila, a KakaObi shipper was born haha. By shipper I don’t mean that I am adamant that they are canon but more like obsessed with analyzing the depth and complexity of their relationship.

To me, Obito is Kakashi’s “shaker”. From Land of Wave arc till even Kage Summit, Kakashi is a solid pillar for the MCs that can calmly do what he needs to do. Sasuke got curse mark? He had a seal to handle it. Sakura in distress? He calmed her down. Naruto wanted to beg Raikage for Sasuke’s pardon? He helped his student to meet Raikage. Even when an individual that demolished his village appear in front of him, he steadily hold his arm and stare ahead.  Many times in Naruto situation turn into a chaos with many emotional outburst, somehow he has this no-nonsense attitude and there’s almost no hesitation for him to plan and do his next move.

On Obito’s reveal however, probably for the first time he was like “God, what am I supposed to do?” He’s not an unshakable presence anymore, his foundation is practically crumbled. And of course, I am a sadist who enjoy seeing him like that (it’s so cathartic haha) but I also enjoy when Kakashi managed to stand up and faced Obito despite the immense affection he felt to Obito. To see what he felt when he faced Obito, how much he valued Obito, why did he feel like that is the delight of being KakaObi shipper for me.

As for Obito’s side, I feel like he had a mixed feeling for Kakashi that was fun to be explored. His feeling to other people is obvious, like for sure he loves Rin, for sure he hates Madara, but Kakashi? If he hates Kakashi why he never kills Kakashi and take his eye back? If he loves Kakashi why didn’t he come back? Acknowledging the bond between Obito and Kakashi also made me see the goodness of Obito at its fullest. Because before his villain path, Obito is a very good and honorable boy and Kakashi is the one who see him at his brightest. Knowing the depth of Kakashi and Obito’s bond also what made me cried hard on Obito’s death (the second one, although I cried too on his first one) despite the many atrocities that he caused so far. 

And one thing for sure, KakaObi pairing is precious for me because it means acknowledging that Obito is important to Kakashi and Kakashi is important to Obito, which is undoubtfully a canon fact.

[bansenshukai]

Ok, can we just talk about this panel in naruto for a second?

In the panel, Obito has had a change of mind, Naruto's worked his magic talk-no-jutsu, but Kakashi wasn't around for that, and he's just emerged from Kamui while still thinking Obito is a traitor to Konoha.

Kakashi is about to kill Obito. He is fully prepared to kill Obito, and Obito makes absolutely zero move to stop him. The only reason that kunai did not sink in is because Minato stopped Kakashi's hand.

sadkjllhjkdsafldfsafsdjhkal

I literally. AUGH. Kakashi! Would have had the blood of his friend on his hands again!!

"Let me take responsibility for him" AKA let me take responsibility for all the things he's done, because really what Kakashi is saying implicitly is that because Obito saved him all those years ago, Kakashi feels personal responsible for Rin and Minato's deaths, the Fourth-War starting, and all of this horrific destruction.

u fucked up lil traumatized bb!!! you KNOW he would have gone home after the war and just like. fucking stared into space in front of the memorial stone, totally fucked up over the fact that he had to kill the man who he based his entire life off of.

So Kakashi would have had to live forever with the memory ofTWO of Obito's deaths-- and both of them, in his mind, were his fault.

And Obito? Just look at his fucking face in this panel-- he's resigned. He's expectant, he thinks that's Kakashi's right to take his life, and he doesn't want to live with the weight of everything he's done. He knows he's fucked up. He's prepared, almost happy, to accept death at Kakashi's hand (and ultimately later, he gets his wish when he makes sure that he dies while saving Kakashi's life).

[kakooshi]

Obito using Kakashi’s hand for his jutsu is more clever than I realized because honestly, how do you keep the Copycat Ninja from copying you? If you’re stuck gripping both of his hands, form the seals with one of them, then kick him in the face not just to disorient him but also to keep him from completing the jutsu that he could technically perform as well. Obito thought all of this in 5 seconds. King shit.

[keepyourpantsongohan]

Kakashi & Da Boyz: Lab Updates

Introduction

Approximately two years ago, I wrote this pairing lab report which compared Kakashi’s manga interactions with his top five AO3 pairings (excluding sensei/student and original character pairings). Since the numbers have shifted a lot for AO3, here’s what they look like in 2020. 

Materials

2018 Lab Report Data

A vague understanding of how math works 

A slowly dwindling grip on my own life

Methods 

See prior work for methods on manga interaction count as published in Keepyourpantsongohan, 2018. 

It is worth nothing in this section why AO3 was chosen rather than FF.net or any other fanfiction website as a point of comparison: AO3 has the ability to filter character relationships by romantic pairings. While FF.net has developed this filter in recent years, its history and use is much more sporadic and would be unlikely to produce a representative sample. 

Data

See prior work for raw data of manga interactions as published in Keepyourpantsongohan, 2018. Only total interactions are included as a comparison point. 

Total Interactions with Kakashi 

Iruka: 4

Obito: 37

*Obito’s interactions with Kakashi under an assumed identity as Tobi: 11

*Total (if including Tobi): 48

Gai: 50

Yamato: 29

Itachi: 6

Total Number of Interactions for Any Pairings Listed Above: 126

*Total: If including Tobi: 137

AO3 Pairing Story Count (as of 08-June-2020)

Hatake Kakashi/Umino Iruka: 3,453

Hatake Kakashi/Uchiha Obito: 1,808

Hatake Kakashi/Maito Gai: 888

Hatake Kakashi/Yamato | Tenzou: 669

Hatake Kakashi/Uchiha Itachi: 151

Total Number of AO3 Stories for Any Pairings Listed Above: 6,969

Analysis 

Figure 1: All Pairing Interactions by Percentage (exc. Tobi) 

Figure 1 Numbers:

Iruka: 3.2%

Obito: 29.3%

Gai: 39.7%

Yamato: 23.0%

Itachi: 4.8%

Figure 2: All Pairing Interactions by Percentage (inc. Tobi)

Figure 2 Numbers:

Iruka: 2.9%

Obito: 35.0%

Gai: 36.5%

Yamato: 21.2%

Itachi: 4.4%

Figure 3: AO3 Pairing Stories by Percentage (as of 08-June-2020)

(Note: Figures 2 and 3 marginally exceed 100% in order to both round and maintain the same degree of accuracy as the previous chart. For Figure 3, all figures will be rounded down to control the excess of 100%.)

Figure 3 Numbers:

Iruka: 49.5% = ~49.0%

Obito: 29.5% = ~29.0%

Gai: 12.7% = ~12.0%

Yamato: 9.6% = ~9.0%

Itachi: 2.2% = ~2.0%

Percentage Difference from Manga Interactions (Fig. 1 Numbers) to AO3 (Fig. 3 Numbers raw data)

Iruka: +46.3%

Obito: +0.2% (or Fig. 2 inc. Tobi: -5.5%)

Gai: -27.0%

Yamato: -13.6%

Itachi: 2.6%

Figure 4: Annual Rate of Growth in Fics from Aug 2018 to June 2020

Overall Increase in Fics on AO3 Since 2018 (Npast - Npresent)

Iruka: 3,453 - 2,298 = 1,155

Obito: 1,808 -  667 = 1,141

Gai: 888 - 391 = 497

Yamato: 669 - 371 = 298

Itachi: 151 - 111 = 40

Annual Rate of Growth (((Npresent - Npast) / Npast x 100) / Number of years) 

Iruka: ((1,155) / 2,298 x 100) / 2 years = 25.1%

Obito: ((1,141) / 667 x 100) / 2 years = 85.5% 

Gai: ((497) / 391 x 100) / 2 years = 63.5%

Yamato: ((298) / 371 x 100) / 2 years = 40.1%

Itachi: ((40) / 111 x 100) / 2 years = 18.0%

Conclusion

As compared to the 2018 analysis, Iruka, Obito and Gai all got closer to proportionally matching up with their manga interactions, though this is most significant for Obito, who is nearly on par with his manga interaction percentages. In other words, Obito is almost exactly as popular as you might expect him to be based on number of chapter appearances interacting with Kakashi. The annual rate of growth for Obito (85.5%) is also by far the highest. I would be curious to know what factors made this increase so high. 

Iruka, like in 2018, is most prevalent as a pairing, and furthest from manga parity (in the positive direction). It is worth noting that the pairing no longer represents the majority in Kakashi’s top five pairings, going from representing 56.7% of fics, to 49.5% of fics. This seems to be a consequence of the rate of growth, because while there were the largest number of fics for Iruka in the past two years (1,155), there was also the second lowest annual growth rate at 25.1%. Even so, the raw numbers do speak to the popularity!

Gai has moved slightly closer to manga parity, with a 2.5% increase in representation. However, the pairing still experiences the largest percentage decrease in presence from manga to AO3. Still, the rate of growth for Gai is significant, being the second highest at 63.5%.

Yamato moved slightly farther away from manga parity, but only by a difference of 0.3%, which means the pairing has more less maintained the same level of popularity as two years ago. The rate of growth is middling, not anywhere near as high as Obito or Gai, but significantly higher than Iruka or Itachi. 

Itachi was as almost close to manga parity as possible in 2018, so the pairing will likely only get further away with more fics being written. But as there have been such a small amount written (20 per year) it would be a slow increase in discrepancy. 

Having acquainted myself with the commentary on the prior report, it might be theorized that “attractiveness” is a factor in popularity of character ships. However, this premise is flawed, because in my experience as a reader, the act of loving a character makes them handsome. See: The Once-ler phenomenon, as described by Ed Helms on Funny or Die (Fealasy 2012):

“I heard there are people who have a sexual predilection for my character in the Lorax [...] And that is very odd, because he’s not a real person. I do agree, however, that he’s extremely sexy. But I don’t condone sexual fantasy about the Once-ler. I don’t condone it.”

So in this case, we can assume attractiveness is a relative condition, superseded by the way that readers choose to love their characters. Personally, I think it’s very sexy of me to love Tenzo. All this to say, don’t worry about it. Who cares? I just made you read a quote about people wanting to have sex with the Once-ler. Think about that. 

The number of fics at the time of my making these charts was 6,969 though, so I think we’re all winners here. 

Limitations 

As I used the manga interaction counts from 2018, bias in my methodology then is still present here. 

In my original calculations, I actually had Obito at 35.8% instead of 35.0% for Figure 2, in a case of human error of inputting 49/137 instead of 48/137 in my calculations. This error has been noted and changed, but the potential for more human error is present in all of my calculations. 

I am aware of there being an event going on for Kakashi and Iruka as I write this, so it is possible that by the time this data is analyzed the number of AO3 fics will have increased. 

I will reiterate that I exclude sensei/student pairings (Sakura and Naruto being two of Kakashi’s top five pairings on AO3 in general; currently third and fourth respectively) because of my own discomfort and the fact I am making a comparison with their manga interactions, which take place when both students are 12-16 and Kakashi is 26-30. Minato would currently be the next highest after original characters, excluded for similar reasons. I also include Itachi with reluctance due to their age gap, but as he is at the very least 18 when returns to Konoha to speak to Kakashi, and he is the next highest in Kakashi pairings, he acts as the fifth pairing. So, in short: I am most certainly biased in what I included and excluded in my 2018 and 2020 data. 

Again, this analysis does not examine a number of variables, like the Naruto anime and ongoing sequel anime, other types of pairing content, etc. But it’s still very interesting to see the tide of fic on AO3. I would like to look at the anime specifically at some point, but this was already an incredible waste of time. 

Seriously, why would you read this? Why would I write this? Are we human, or are we dancer? We will never know. 

Literature Cited

Keepyourpantsongohan. (2018, Aug 19). Kakashi & Da Boyz: A Lab Report. Tumblr. https://keepyourpantsongohan.tumblr.com/post/177174079767/kakashi-da-boyz-a-lab-report

Fealasy. (2012, April 26). Once-ler. Know Your Meme. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/once-ler

[sanjuno]

Can this Anon inquire for more deets on Karmic Balance? All the gleeing you can manage when you get a chance, if you don't mind my asking.

Details on Karmic Balance? Hm, okay. Standard 3 point answer…

1. Thanks to the metaphysics behind Obito giving Kakashi his eyes, Obito ended up possessing Kakashi after the Fourth Shinobi War. It never got to the point of Obito fronting for Kakashi, instead it was a lot like what we see of Sakura and her Inner during the initial arc of the manga. Kakashi did do his best to help Obito’s ghost find peace. Except you need to be alive to heal which is the whole point behind reincarnation but Obito refused to move on without Kakashi… and that’s where a lot of their codependency in this lifetime comes from.

2. Obito loves his current parents a lot but he’s still got a lot of issues about his birth family due to his previous life’s conflict with the Uchiha Clan. So the brutal truth of the matter is that he would set both Kagami and Tobiko on fire without remorse if that’s what it takes to keep Kakashi healthy and safe.

3. Obito and Kakashi can’t do anything to keep the Vongola Heirs alive because their deaths are pretty obviously an inside job and there’s no way Obito is letting Kakashi near that sort of backstabbing mess with his health the way it is. Xanxus is mostly safe because he’s been “disqualified” on the grounds that he’s adopted (not that anybody except Xanxus and his brother’s know that Xanxus has the right blood to access the Vongola Rings) and the best defence Tsuna has is that the Mafia doesn’t know that he exists. So right now Kakashi and Obito are interested in seeing what Xanxus becomes but not really invested enough to stick their necks out. That will probably change in the future, but the more loss Xanxus suffers the stronger his resonance with Obito and Kakashi grows, because overcoming that sort of personal tragedy is the kind of experience that tempered their spirits and brought out their true strength as shinobi. Xanxus has his own trials to get though and some maturing to do before Kakashi and Obito will let themselves be drawn into Harmony.

[the-creative-lounge-blog]

KKOB TRICKS & TREATS

Art by @sloaners

Hi KakaObi shippers,

This year, the Kakashi Lounge celebrates Halloween by organizing a brand new KakaObi event for our favorite holiday, so get ready for KakaObi Tricks and Treats 2021!

This event will run from October 29th to October 31st, and the point of this event is to create spooky content for our favorite ship. Just pick a prompt from the prompt list (we’ll post it before the end of July!) and tag it with #kkobtricksandtreats, and we’ll reblog your event work from @the-kakashi-lounge-blog .

Not only do we encourage y’all to write fics and draw art, but we’re happy to embrace other media formats as well. So, if you feel like making gifs or composing your very own KakaObi Halloween tune, go for it!

This event is organized by @ohayohimawari and @cyabae along with the help of the Kakashi Lounge Discord server. A special thanks to @sloaners , @azuzeldraws , and @acian0 or creating new art for this occasion and helping us to make this event beautiful!

FAQ:

When? October 29th – October 31st

Where: Here, on Tumblr

Who can participate? Everyone

How do I participate: Post your work on Tumblr and tag it with #kkobtricksandtreats

What type of content is allowed? Fan art, fan fiction, photo edits, metas, podcasts.. Pretty much anything.

What type of content is prohibited? Noncon, portrayals of adult/minor relationships, underage nsfw content, incest, graphic violent imagery.

If you have any questions, either send an ask, or contact @ohayohimawari or @cyabae !

@narutoevents

[kakaobiweek]

KakaObi Week 2021

(art by @azuzeldraws)

When? May 26th – June 2nd

Where? Here, on Tumblr.

Who can participate? Everyone.

How do I participate? Tag your work with #kakaobiweek2021 and/or tag @kakaobiweek

What kind of content is accepted? Fan art, fan fiction, podfics, manga/anime edits, meta posts, headcanons, you name it! As long as the boys are the main stars of your work, we’re cool.

What kind of content won’t be accepted? Noncon, adult/minor content, nsfw underage content, incest, super graphic imagery. If you create audiovisual content for this event (e.g. videos, gifs), refrain from using super flashy special effects that may trigger an epileptic seizure.

This year’s KakaObi week is organized by @cyabae along with the Kakashi Lounge Discord server.

If you have any questions about the event, you can either contact @cyabae or send an ask to this blog. If your question has something to do with the Kakashi Lounge, contact @ohayohimawari and make sure to visit the official server page too @the-kakashi-lounge-blog​

@narutoevents​

PROMPTS:

DAY 1 (05/26): Red | Dreams | Soulmates

DAY 2 (05/27): Orange | Sea | Missing Scene

DAY 3 (05/28): Yellow | Animals | Domestic

DAY 4 (05/29): Green | Friends | Mythology

DAY 5 (05/30): Blue | Safe | Mutual Pining

DAY 6 (05/31): Indigo | Reunited | Enemies to Lovers

DAY 7 (06/01): Violet | Music | Fantasy

DAY 8 (06/02): Free day!

Need more inspiration? No worries, the Loungers have you covered with a Spotify playlist made for the event.

FAQ:

Q: Can I post several works per day? A: Absolutely!

Q: Can I interpret these prompts however I want? A: Yes! Let’s say that on day seven, you wanna create something based on the ‘music’ prompt. Now, you could draw Kakashi and Obito singing a duet or write a story about them listening to music together, but you could also go wild and compose a song about them. In this house, we stan unconventional ideas, so go ahead, let your creativity go wild.

Q: Can I mix and match these prompts? A: But of course!

Q: Do you allow spicy content? A: Yes, but we gotta be a little careful with this one. You see, Tumblr isn’t very fond of such content, so you might wanna avoid posting images that may get flagged. Cover up the juiciest bits, okay? Links to E-rated fics on AO3 are cool.

Q: What about dark content? A: Yeah, if it’s not forbidden above. Just make sure to tag everything that might be upsetting to some audiences.

[itischeese]

Modern AU Obito has a special interest in philosophy and got a little too invested in Rousseau. He'll idly comment that "man is born free, but everywhere is in chains," over breakfast.

He faked his death when he was twelve and hasn't stopped lying since. He stalks his old group-project member, up to and including watching him sleep. He looked at him a little too long once, had a bi crisis, and tried to light himself on fire.

He started the tide pod challenge. Every comment he leaves on social media starts with "erm actually...." He seasons his food with silica gel. There is a warrant out for his arrest in 7 countries, and he's working on the eighth. He lived like Diogenes for a month and saw a marked improvement in quality of life.

He almost gets arrested for shoplifting but he gets away fine after killing all the cops. He borrows money and gaslights the person he borrowed it from while using it all at a gumball machine. He was arrested for the cop-murder and refused when offered a lawyer. He represented himself in court and got off with a clean record and a head pat.

The world will end the day he reads Leviathan. He has no sense of boundaries and will grab others at any given time and just start talking. All his friends hate him.

[aribluart]

When I was a kid, my favorite characters in Naruto were Gaara, Sasori, and Naruto. Now, after having read, finally, all the manga at 28, that drastically changed. Now, without a doubt, my favorite characters are Obito and Kakashi, and the main reason is: they are human. I'm not saying that the other characters of the story are not human, but they all have that indistinguishable "fantasy" layers on them. But Obito and Kakashi? Their story, their motives, their emotions, their responses at the events of the main story, are so intrinsically human. Probably what I'm writing make no sense, but Ill' try my best to explain, even if I have difficulty to write this in english. This is my opinion, and naturally everyone has their take based on their own culture and their life. When I say they are " intrinsically human", I mean that if someone else was in their place, they would have made their same choices and actions. Because, their response to destabilizing and traumatic events (the third ninja war as child soldiers, Kannabi bridge, Rin's decision, and so on) it's different, but also understandable. Who could have act differently? No one can say with confidence and no hesitation how they would act in certain situations. I'm no therapist, but people have different reactions to traumatic events. We are not the same. So, seeing how Obito and Kakashi had so conflicting reactions to the same events, conflicting with their own childhood self even though you could see even then there was something, something that you could see and say "yes, this is only the tip of the iceberg," because we are not the same as our child selves, but our child selves had something that made who we are today, and the "we" of today have something that it's a reminder of our child selves. I, have so much more to add, but don't have the words in english to say it. I don't even know if what I wrote make any sense, it was something that I wanted to say because this two make me cry, and I hardly cry for fiction. But this two made my cry like I haven't cried for years, just because their story is so viscerally human and close to what I feel in general, that I don't even know anymore.

[fireblight]

obito for the ask game owo

send me a character and i’ll tell you…

a song that reminds me of them: IDK about obito specifically tbh but i think he gives me massive body horror vibes so for those vibes alone i'd go pluto by bjork or voodoo in my blood by young fathers and massive attack . no idea if the vibe checks out but it's freaky music and he's a freaky guy.

what they smell like: i think all uchihas have this sort of like smoky undertone or like some sort of fire motif . obito specifically hmm maybe like the crackling woodsy fire of a campfire out in the forest. when he's like 12 he reeks of lynx aftershave or whatever the naruto equivalent is of that

an otp: TBH I DO NOT CARE ABOUT OBITO SHIPS V MUCH... i will not lie to u. if i had to pick of his ships though i like obirin but not like the weird pining after a dead girl vibe that everyone seems to go through but more-so an au where rin lives and a setting where they meet again as adults and r both jinchuurikis or whatever and catch up and its hard and real and difficult but ultimately coming to terms w the changes in their personalities and finding kinship in their mutual monsterhood via jinchuurikism i think that could vibe. OH SHIT I JUST REMEMBERED HE WS TOBI. deidara and tobi are good

a notp: any weird shit aside, i cannot find it in me to ship kakaobi with any degree of passion </3 though i'm not like against it necessarily and i'm v laid back so i think with the right kinda meta or fic or s/t i could get real into it. i just have other kakashi ships i prefer that i've liked for longer </3

favorite platonic/familial relationships: deidara and tobi and although i dont know enough about loike. madara and obito's relationship cos it's been fucking ages since i watched that bit i do like the idea of evil dad and son committing moon crimes. and of course obito and taka bc of you <3 but unfortunately bc i am a sucker for slowburn and karin is a freak she's going to be in denial for ages especially cos she has brother related trauma. but hey. Thread potential

a headcanon that is popular in the fandom but that i disagree with: from what u say it seems like it's common that obito pines over rin all the time? that's lame . i don't hate like pining or whatever but i think it's redundant and also weird for rin's character too bc it takes away any importance she has as a person and instead like just makes her the lost lenore. fuck that. also obito's been thru so much who's going to have a crush for that long when all that other shit went on

the position they sleep in: he seems like a cuddler and considering he's paralleled to naruto i wouldn't be surprised if they both crushed the shit out of their pillows . i think he prolly would have grown out of it but in your lives au and w/ some healing i could see him relax back into his little ways

a crossover au i’d love to see them in: i'm just hiveminding with you rn but like a friday the 13th / jason voorhees type beat for obito because came back wrong etc "dying" as a kid only to return later with a vengeance like the material is there.

my favorite outfit they’ve ever worn: juubito is good because i love freaky weird body horror stuff in character designs . also i love tobi as a whole everything about him is impeccable goofy mf

[twinkletoes-rp]

6, 7, 19, 20, 30, 31, 32, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 51 (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

Fanfiction Questions meme

6. List your OTP from each fandom you’ve been involved in.

Oh, geez... I’ve been involved in so many fandoms, LOL. I don’t really know if I can/should name them all. I’ll give you the ones (ONLY OTPs - doesn’t mean I don’t ship other things, too) I can think of off the top of my head.

Kiba/Hinata (Naruto), Fakir/Ahiru (Princess Tutu), Stiles/Derek (Teen Wolf), Kirito/Lisbeth (Sword Art Online), Harry/Hermione (Harry Potter), Goku/Bulma (Dragon Ball), Yusuke/Botan (Yu Yu Hakusho), Todoroki/Izuku (BNHA), (better!)Bakugo/Uraraka (BNHA), Toph/Aang (ATLA), and Adrien/Marinette (Miraculous Ladybug)!

7. List your NoTPs from each fandom you’ve been in.

(This isn’t meant to be hate on the ships I name! I just don’t ship them, that’s all! Ship and let ship! ;))

Naruto/Sasuke (Naruto), Kirito/Asuna (Sword Art Online), Ron/Hermione (Harry Potter), Harry/Ginny (Harry Potter), Goku/Chichi (Dragon Ball), Yusuke/Keiko (Yu Yu Hakusho), Bakugo/Izuku (BNHA), and Aang/Katara (ATLA).

19. Is there a ship (in your current fandom) which you wished you could get behind, but you just don’t feel them?

I’m not sure I have a ‘current fandom’ since I live for, like, everything at once, but maybe technically Naruto would be it?

In that case (again, no offense to anyone - and removing the ‘I wish I could get behind’ part ‘cause I do not), NaruSasu. I just...don’t get it? At all? Maybe it’s the ‘what could have been’s or whatever, but when you just take the series at face value, that relationship is...really icky, at least to me, and that’s putting it lightly. It’s so damn unhealthy, especially for poor Naruto. They were never even friends, Sasuke always treated him like shit, and yet...?! *throws hands at half+ of OG series and virtually all of Shippuden* IDK, man. Something’s weird there, and I don’t like it. Can’t support that. Naruto deserves better, damn it. (*casually links her Naruto AU fic where he DOES get better (in more ways than one), TYVM*)

20. Any ships (in your current fandom) which you surprised yourself by liking?

Going with Naruto again, so. Hmm... I guess maybe Kankuro/Tenten? I didn’t even know that was a ship until a friend showed me a really good fic, and I was hooked! lol.

Another might be KakaObi, but only in AUs where Obito survives the cave in and gets out with Kakashi and Rin and recovers, continuing to be the sweetheart he is instead of the ass he turned out to be in canon. Because he, too, deserved better, damn it!

Another is one I might have made up, not sure (mostly in the context of my Naruto AU, NGL), lol: Karin/Shikamaru! It makes sense and there are lots of compelling reasons when you break it down! You know, 'cause Shikamaru would need (or probs at least prefer) someone on his smarts level, and she's a genius, too, just in a different way. And once she mellows out, Karin's really cool, and (in my AU) she grows to eventually adore Naruto (actually fights to defend/protect him in the Pein arc!), and anyone who loves Naruto is good in Shikamaru's book! lol. Plus, she can tell him when he has his genius brain twisted in too many directions, tell him he's being an idiot and help him figure things out in her different way. lol. IDK, I like it!

30. What inspires you to write?

I just...love writing?? I’ve wanted to be an author since I was 8-9 years old, started writing when I was 11, and I’ve been writing ever since! I’m 27 now! I’ve had a few dry spells, ofc, but I always end up coming back! I just feel like writing is in my blood (partly because, I like to joke, my last name is the title of one of Shakespeare’s plays, haha)!

Pretty much anything can inspire me to write, though. I’ll see a pretty flower and be like “OOH, that flower could feature perfectly in this chapter in this way!” and then write 1k about that! lol. Or I could read a review of one of my new chapters and end up thinking of something I’d never considered before and then write almost 3k on that alone (looking at you, middle section of Ch 6 of my Naruto AU, lol)!

Basically, if it sparks joy, I’m gonna write something! X’D

31. What’s the nicest thing someone has ever said about your writing?

Nicest?? Hmm... I mean, I’ve had a lot of things said about my writing... Not sure I can really narrow it down? lol.

I guess the nicest things I’ve ever been told are when I make people cry (espec multiple times!) and actually feel the emotions the characters are feeling, that the characters and their development feel so real that it’s like they’re real people instead of fictional/they’re written so much better than the creator himself wrote them. (Been getting those a lot on my Naruto AU, actually. lol.)

32. Do you listen to music when you write or does music inspire you? If so, which band or genre of music does it for you?

I tend to prefer silence while I write, but sometimes, my house is loud and people keep breaking my concentration (house of 5, lots of animals, not the quietest, lol), I sometimes listen to music. I usually prefer instrumental, and then usually Naruto or Wolf’s Rain (sometimes Princess Tutu, too) instrumental tracks. The Naruto one I like best also has rain sounds mixed in, which is great because I love the sound of rain! Woo! (Here’s a link to that one if anyone else wants in on this! ;))

39. What is your greatest strength as a writer?

Emotions and getting into the nitty-gritty stuff therein. As an extremely visual, emotional writer, I’ve always been able to feel the emotions of the characters pretty much exactly how they’re feeling it in the moment and then put it on paper. I also make people cry a lot with my writing and get them to feel what the characters do, so that’s awesome! It’s always my goal to get my readers to feel things because then I feel like they’ve really connected with the story and characters I’ve written!

40. What do you struggle the most with in your writing?

Transitions are dicks. Sometimes I struggle ‘cause it’s been, like, two seconds or five hours, and I don’t know how to show that, lol. If I can, espec with the last one, I just fade to black. lol.

Also, sometimes I feel like I use the same sentence structure a lot, mostly the ‘..., but...’ format (at least lately). It’s really annoying, and I worry my readers notice and get annoyed/think I suck because of it. lol.

41. List and link to 5 fanfics you are currently reading:

“All the ways I say ‘I love you’” by Leonardo_Charles_BlueWood_21 (Fandom: Ninjago)

“Paradise Lost” by AnchoredTether (Fandom: Voltron Legendary Defender (Zootopia-esque dark AU))

“where my armor ends” by dalniente (Fandom: She-Ra Princesses of Power)

“of cats and curses” by faerialchemist (Fandom: She-Ra Princesses of Power x Fruits Basket crossover)

“Mischief is its Own Reward” by dalniente (Fandom: Megamind)

43. Is there anyone in your fandom who really inspires you?

I don’t really read Naruto fanfic too much anymore, so like...I guess, technically, another main fandom of mine right now is Fruits Basket, so: without a doubt, @kyosohmastan ! They’re my absolute favorite Fruits Basket fanfic author! Everyone’s so in character, the writing is so sweet and feelsy, steamy when it needs to be, and I really love the writing itself - it’s just so well done and beautiful and I die happily when they post a new fic or chapter? Ahhh! Plus, they’re just so nice and talented in so many ways, we have the same opinions on certain things (like Kakeru Manabe is Too Much(TM) for us, haha, no offense to those who like him! lol.), and I just really, really feel blessed to know and read their fics! Love them so! <3

44. What ship do you feel needs more attention?

I’m not sure which ship this is talking about? Hmm... But a ship I definitely think (have always thought) needs more attention is Kirito/Lisbeth from Sword Art Online! It’s so slept on, and that is a damn fucking shame because they’re so healthy and sweet and have so much more amazing potential than they’re given credit for (way freaking more than the actual canon couple, just sayin’, no offense to anyone who likes the pairing)! I have written a good few metas (and a fanfic) on the subject (some/most of which are on my Lisbeth RP blog, actually, lol)! If anyone wants to discuss/RP/anything involving this ship, please let me know! Would love it!

45. What is your all time favourite fanfic?

I’m not sure I have a favorite fic. But one that I always come back to (all of her (mostly G1) My Little Pony fics, actually - first found them when I was, like, 12, and have kept rereading over and over through the years, haha) is A Mother in Her Eyes by LoveLikeElena on FFN. It takes place in the author’s own MLP universe, but I love said universe so much, and her takes on the characters are amazing and so sweet! I love her look at the serious subjects that follow the characters through her ongong MLP series! <3

51. Rant or Gush about one thing you love or hate in the world of fanfiction! Go!

Fanfic readers have become really, really lazy. No one reviews anymore, maybe leave a kudos here and there if you’re lucky (I have a major love-hate (more hate) relationship with kudos...), and it’s so, so, so discouraging to us writers! I wish they knew how it felt, to be honest, espec the ones you know are reading, but just...don’t comment. It’s ridiculously disheartening to work so hard on something for days, weeks, even months or years on something, only to get basically nothing in return. It’s like posting into the void, and it sucks ass. It’s part of what made me quit writing for a good few years, actually, and I’m so sad to see that it’s still a thing. I comment on everything I read because I know how it feels and how much it hurt! It hurts like hell, especially because I remember how it used to be just 6-8 years ago when everyone commented! I desperately pray the fanfic/content consuming world fixes that really soon or we might lose some really amazing writers! Please, even an emoji or keyboard smash! I don’t care, I’ll take anything (and I know I’m not the only one)! <3

[huskymaine]

Just imagine if obito and Rin were gender swapped and female obito later posed as male Tobi and Madara somehow ,so nobody suspected them as obito then mask broke in war and surprise fake madara is a women and kakashi old "dead" friend ,war is same but fem obito somehow survives and later married kakashi and boruto there is a kid of kakashi and obito a hatake with sharingan.🌸If even half of this was canon I think kakaobi would have been more popular what are your thoughts?

Hmmm, KakaObi is already so popular you know. It's like second most popular Kakashi pairing after KakaIru on AO3, and in Chinese fandom, KakaObi is one of the "Holy Trinity" Naruto ship, the other two is NaruSasu and HashiMada. Visit Bilibili or lofter, you can find many top-tier KakaObi contents or DM/Ask me anytime if you want recommendation of good KakaObi AMV on bilibili or fanarts on Lofter. They're mostly ObiKaka though, a.k.a Kakashi is the "bottom" when it comes to sexual stuff.

But, if you mean that KakaObi would have been more popular than KakaIru (since it's the other Kakashi ship that was more popular than KakaObi), then I doubt that a het ship that was fully developed on Part 2 can override the already long established KakaIru ship. Although I admit I don't really understand why KakaIru is so massively popular compared to other Kakashi ships, so I don't know what will make it "less popular" either.

As for your gender-swap scenario, sadly I only can see bad things will happen because of that Anon...

Male Rin will be ridiculed to hell and back. There are already many critics on Rin character who let herself kidnapped twice and every rescue attempts on her brought grievance consequences, and it will be so much worse if Rin is a boy, especially in the eyes of those dudebros on Reddit. "How pathetic is he, a girl sacrificed herself for him but then he let himself be kidnapped again and the said girl destroyed the world for him?" those kind of comments perhaps will appear in the Naruto fandom if Rin is a male.

Female Obito can look like interesting badass female character, but then like a huge bitch for marrying Kakashi in the end. Female Obito can look like brought her pardon with her seduction to Kakashi and it will paint Obito's character in a very bad light.

I doubt Kakashi can and will marry Obito post-war, regardless of gender. Although many fans sympathize with him, including me, in-universe hundreds of shinobis in 4th war hunted for his blood. Tsunade stopped them out of respect for Kakashi and Minato, but she definitely will not let Obito go freely and neither Kakashi nor Minato will want to stop her. If the marriage is an attempt for Obito's surveillance like Oro's constant surveillance, then the pairing will have a huge imbalance of power which is frankly I am not a fan. I ship canon KakaObi, but if KakaObi turned into like that, I'll not ship them anymore.

Personally, I don't think Kakashi loves Obito romantically. Of course I ship them, but honestly I can't see it becomes canon. The interaction between Kakashi and Obito is never painted on romantic light (actually, none of Kakashi's interaction with anyone is painted in a romantic light) and despite Kakashi's adoration to Obito, he's not exactly soft with him too. Kakashi called Obito worse than worse than trash, and tried to kill him twice. Or the lava scene, Kakashi carried Sakura yet only pinned Obito's hand with kunai. If Obito is a female, brrr, I can imagine the nasty discussion that would be created from it.

Again, personally, Kakashi having a kid will not benefited or bring nothing new to Kakashi's character. Kakashi is an already adult character who was tasked to take care of kids, guide him and stuff. The appeal of "having kids" prompt (apart from satisfying shipper) is to see how the characters whom we adored take care of mini size of them. But Kakashi is already having character parallel with Sasuke, and Obito got paralleled with Naruto. So if there's a question "How Kakashi will handle a child of himself and Obito"? Then I'll answer "Well, he'll handle them just like he handled Naruto and Sasuke". Also the Kakashi's sharingan kid will take some of spotlight from Sarada, and I am not looking forward for the chaos that will be created from it.

So yeah, that's my thoughts anon, hope you're not disappointed. My general opinion is that scenario will frankly made KakaObi worse than canon. But that scenario quite intrigued me so if you have interesting idea of a fic with that premise, feel free to discuss it some more with me.

[yurayura-konoha]

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