#king of worms

[renthari-from-telvanni]

King of Worms under the starry sky of Tamriel

does time exist here?

[caliblorn]

I promised to make this post months ago and completely forgot about it until the last few days (a classic!), so here I am now. Making it. And with silly art included. Yay!

As many of you know, Mannimarco and Vanus Galerion in Elder Scrolls Online are portrayed as 2E contemporaries who mirror each other journeys to leaders, out of the Psijic Order and into their own groups. ESO makes it clear that they're meant to be similar in age as well, and it does so both by de-aging Mannimarco's model for the "Half-Forming Understandings" quest, and by making it say by Vanus himself in Artaeum Lost.

BUT! If you have played Morrowind or Oblivion, you might already be familiar with Where were you when the Dragon Broke?, an account of different people's experiences during the Middle Dawn, the 1E Dragon Break. And oh! Look who it is.

(notice also he says God, not King) The Middle Dawn happened between 1E 1200 and 1E 2208. Time fuckeries as much as you want, but nonetheless, 1E ends in 2920, and we know FOR SURE that Vanus was born the first years of 2E and that he joined the Psijics as a 11 yo. So, even if we took into consideration ONLY the latest period of the Middle Dawn, Mannimarco would have been a... 700+ years old novice when he met Vanus. Very funny to think about, but an old mer having an intellectual rivalry with a teenager doesn't really scream "brilliant" to me.

I'd say the retconning of his age is also supported by Worm Saga, were he doesn't mention at all his period in the Maruhkati and makes it sound like he was either born or taken to Artaeum at a very young age.

Plus, both in Worm Saga and in the Vault's flashbacks and in every other source ever (WRITTEN FOR ESO. AHEM.) we see that his "discovery" of necromancy happened on Artaeum. Like, it's screamed into our ears a couple of times or more in the game itself.

The problem with all of this? The book that implies he lived through the Middle Dawn is still present in ESO.

Which is to me one little example of a bigger issue with ESO writers rewriting/retconning things without taking away/trying to somewhat link the original sources. But I digress, there are different ways to make this work but since some are too complicated to be discussed now, I'll just share with you what I usually go with;

Mannimarco is a great liar. Not only a liar, a politician. A sales man. A guru. He knows how to give himself prestige. What "Where were you when the dragon broke?" is to me is either fake accounts fabricated by the Cult themselves, or stolen accounts (probably from Artaeum's archives!) where his false experience was added and then sent around Tamriel.

If I had to make a TIMELINE for all the pieces cited, I would say the publication order would be "Where were you when the dragon broke" (used as propaganda by the Cult to make Mannimarco's figure important)-> "Artaeum Lost" (disproves what was fabricated about Mannimarco)-> "Worm Saga" (new attempt to give himself prestige with that "aldmer, scion of et'Ada").

[album-aurum]

daggerfall mannimarco to mannitrade with @aeternal-nightmare <З

"His reflection"

[elderscrollsconceptart]

King of Worms

Concept art for The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall

Art by Mark Jackson

[nerevar-quote-and-star]

The early bird gets the worm but the late bird gets a slightly worse worm. There are worms everywhere. Who cares. Sleep late. Do not let the worms decide your lifestyle.

Mannimarco, King of Worms, probably

[theoneandonlysemla]

Our Lord an Saviour has risen!

Happy Easter!

I had this vision of Mannimarco in my head: ESO-Trailer-Mannimarco with the red cloak of Daggerfall-Mannimarco. I did hide a little detail of Oblivion-Mannimarco as well (hint: dangling from his neck ;) ).

The backround is a little easteregg (because it's easter, u know) from LotR. I found it very fitting for our favourite necromancer.

I gotta say, I fucking love this painting??? I'm thinking hard about printing it and hanging it on a wall.

[peony-plum]

Vanus just don’t get it 🙄

[aeternal-nightmare]

My part of the MANNITRADE with @album-aurum !

best art trade ever, fr <33

[fircider]

get mannimarco'd fool

[renthari-from-telvanni]

not-so-young mer hang out reading

<3

[caliblorn]

STAFF OF WORMS REPLICA WEEEEEE YIPPIEEEEE

[mannimarcoiscool]

Join my cult

[wormthrall]

doodled this before I sleep because I wanted to practice some more which is why this is the laziest thing ever

[a-denn]

Dark Galadriel, Nicklaus Mikaelson , Mannimarco

[feivelynart]

Art Nouveau King of Worms

[peony-plum]

Mannimarco in Daggerfall