#leconcombrerit

[the-haiku-bot]

I love those because

they’re often both right in the

same situation.

Beep boop! I look for accidental haiku posts. Sometimes I mess up.

"This story is a tragedy because it didn't have to end this way."

vs

"This story is a tragedy because it was always going to end this way."

[slayerkitty]

The DFF Experience: A Dead Friend Forever Fandom Round Up (Part 3*)

Character Analysis (Episodes 11-12)

On Tee and Redemption by @neuroticbookworm

On Phee and New and Revenge in Episode 11 by @uwooyoungs

Failing Non and Paths to Redemption by @biochemjess

Mirror Justice in DFF by @brifrischu

On Jin and His Character by @raelle-writing

New: Righteous Villain or Straying? by @kerrikins

Jin is Not a Flat Character by @queenofhtesarcastic

On Tee's Lonely Grief by @tbhimnoteasyonmyself

Protagonists and Main Characters by @queenofhtesarcastic

New/Phee Brain Dump by @vegaseatsass

White's Fear by @thepetesimp

On Jin, Non and the Apology by @mikuni14

The "What Non Would Want" Debate

Thoughts by @befuddledcinnamonroll

What Non Would Want by @yellingaboutkp

Would Non Want That? by @raelle-writing

New and Goodness by @salamander89

Miscellaneous (Episodes 1-10)

Nine Circles of Hell: DFF Episode 7 by @syrena-del-mar

On Police Corruption by @raelle-writing

Squicks and Triggers (Episodes 1-8) by @wen-kexing-apologist-

Squicks and Triggers (Episode 9) by @wen-kexing-apologist

Squicks and Triggers (Episode 10) by @wen-kexing-apologist

DFF Episode 5 by @wen-kexing-apologist

Language Notes by @visualtaehyun

Language Notes (Episode 9) by @visualtaehyun

Language Notes (Episode 11) by @visualtaehyun

DFF, Found Footage Horror, Technology, and the Real by @shannankle

Role of Regret and Guilt in DFF by @aeternallis

On Perfect Victims by @leconcombrerit

An Ode to Older Siblings by @syrena-del-mar

Episode 9 Meta by @mikuni14

DFF Episode 9 by @blramblingx2

The Audience as Phee and Tan by @firstkanaphans

Celestial Pleasures: Miscellaneous Thoughts About PheeJin’s NC Scene by @syrena-del-mar with contributions by @lurkingshan

How Do You Feel About PheeJin And Other Commentary by @respectthepetty

Figuring Out the Timeline by @yellingaboutkp

Asian Culture And Context for the Reaction to Non and Keng by @delululover

Framing in DFF: Voyeurism and Sex by @shannankle

Selfish Desires and the Class War by @syrena-del-mar

Episode 10 Analysis by @venusssssssssss

Filmmaking in BL: The Horror Influences of DFF by @chaos0pikachu

Episode 12 Preview Analysis by @thepetesimp

No One is Doomed by the Narrative by @raelle-writing

Lord of the Flies and DFF by @koddyroddy

Miscellaneous (Episode 11-12)

Echoes of Guilt: Exploring the Thin Line Between Tee's Redemption and Salvation in Dead Friend Forever, Episode 11 by @syrena-del-mar

Genre Influences by @imminentinertia

DFF: Horror or Thriller? by @yellingaboutkp

Random Episode 11 Thoughts by @subtextsays

Desperation in DFF by @babyangelsky

On Horror Tropes and Audience by @chaos0pikachu and several others

*Due to the number links and mentions the round up is now four(!) posts. Please see Part 1 here, Part 2 here, and Part 4 here.

[italianpersonwithashippersheart]

DFF - Character Reveals and Why Some Work and Some Don't

I have been thinking about Phee and Tan and why the Tan reveal was so amazing while the Phee character reveal post episode 9 destroyed the character for a big chunk of the audience.

It all started with a post from @mikuni14 here is the link with a couple of additions and back and forths, from me, op and @leconcombrerit and the comments in the notes by @kerrikins which I just say today and accidently helped me figure out why I don't like post episode 9 Phee.

Set Up to The Reveal

I think most of us can agree that Tan and Phee have been suspicious since episode 1. The key to the later reveals was for Phee to appear the one in charage as highlighten in this excellent post episode 9 post from @lurkingshan

So for 8 weeks of real world time, everyone who watched live spend that time with this image of Phee: A loyal, smart, leader oriented teen that made a mistake in anger and betrayal and is now trying to make up for it. Someone who is charge and on top of this revenge plan. Someone who is willing to get their hands dirty.

While Tan came across as someone who wants answears, who likes to get high with these people but is only for real close to Phee, and fades into the background unleass you are specifically analyzing his character.

Speaking from me only, even while I was obsessing over Mio's microexpression I was skeptical over the Tan is the brother reveal, I was coinvinced that I wasn't going to suspend my disbelief over Mio's age and that it didn't make any sense because Phee looked to be so much more in charge.

Writers don't know what the audience is going to like about the character before the reveal happens. And with every character you ran the risk of that reveal destroying the audience's attachment by changing the wrong things.

The Reveals in Ep 9

While DFF had other reveals, specifically with Phee, all those revealed only served to strengthen the audience initial perception of Phee.

Then came episode 9. And while the Tan is New reveal blew everyone including me out of the water over how good it was, seriously Mio was amazing in this role and the writing for him was insanly good, Phee's episode 9 reveals didn't work as much.

Why?

It's simple because Tan was very much non entity pre-reveal. If you weren't obssessing over everything like myself you barely payed attention to him.

There was no character for the reveal to assinate, Tan never came across as someone who was especially close to any of the others except for Phee, at the most he Fluke and Top were his weed buddies and that is the extent of the friendships you saw between Tan and the group.

The reveal strengthents the character, they make it better, they make you go back and appriciate everything you didn't notice. All the little moments of barely concealed disdain.

While with Phee it's the opposite. Phee was a strong character already, and everything that we saw seem to reinforced that.

But episode 9 changed that. Episode 9 destroyed all of it, and while it worked fine at the time, the cracks started to appear as soon as episode 10 rolled around.

Because everything we learn from episode 9 destroyes everything we know about Phee as a character.

Loyal = He flipped on the boys as soon as they were nice to him and Tan [Read: OUR FRIENDS NEED HELP - I haven't forgotten, OUR FRIENDS I wanted to kill him]. Falls in love with Jin in three scenes (and yeah I know that it might have been weeks of real world time, BUT FOR US it was 3 scenes, in 3 scenes he was over Non and totally lovey dovey with Jin.), Enables New's revenge and pretends to be on his side still all the while not doing anything to help or not even wanting to do anything that doesn't help his guilt anymore.

Smart = Are we really supposed to believe that Phee had no idea that New had the intention of seeing the boys die? Am I really supposed to believe that the son of a cop, saw New totally loose everything, ask to die, profess revenge [the flashback scene I'll Make Them Pay in episode 12] and then heard "This won't killed them" in that tone and not made 2 + 2??? Are we for real right now??????

Leader Oriented = Not in charge of their mission, taking New's lead

Teen who made a mistake and said something in anger = This one is still valid, but it lessened by knowing he never actually confronted that what happened to Non was predatory and a little more complicated then actual cheating. Or the fact that he dismissed Non's call or explanations. The fact that he seemingly gets over Non and totally falls for Jin within a week of meeting him fits with stupid teen boy, but really doesn't help.

In charged and on top of this revenge plan = Again, not in charge of the plan seemingly just going along for the ride.

Someone who is willing to get their hands dirty = He has ethics about muder completely OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE!! It is valid to not want to kill people but I'm sorry where the fuck were this boy ethics before? An incompelte lists of things Phee did that he was somehow totally fine with despite his so called "ethics":

Sleeps with Jin under false pretenses

Lied to his father and implicated himself in a crime just to help Non.

Ok with drugging people with a dangerous experimental drugs that causes fear and paranoia after New's reassurance that it tots won't kill them trust me bro.

Sleeping with Jin while he was definately 100% under the influence of New's drugs (the fail blow job in episode one) [We know they were still influenced because if the hand groping Tee was an hallucination then all the characters were still drugged]

Enabled New's revenge quest for three years whithout ever trying to get New to go back to his family (we didn't see it or have it mention so it didn't happen within the text)

Totally ok with sending Top with New post Uncle Dang getting his head chopped off while under the impression that New is responsible for said head chopping

Under the impression that New caused Por getting impaled but still not saying anything (we know that he could have said something because that is what he does later)

Learns that Jin filmed Non and posted the video and reacts with: So we were both hurting him and is fine with it in 5 minutes.

Apparently never fucking interrogated or contronted what happened to Non with Keng, never calls it grooming or abuse. Never recognizes that there were deeper motivations. In three years he manged to do 0 internal searching on it. Despite the fact that Por (who is a dick and the same age as the other boys and Phee) managed to come that conclusion right away.

There's probably more. His ethics come out of nowhere and feel like he is betraying New and being a dysloyal dick, because this character doesn't and has never come across as someone who gives a shit about ethics.

Like ok none of those things are muder fair enough, but a story needs to set up a character internal conflict over murder on a revenge quest a little better then a simple "This won't kill them right?"

Phee post episode 9 character falls apart because it is simply not the same character we thought we were getting for the previous 8 episodes. If you are not a PheeJin shipper there is not much post episode 9 to like about Phee. In the most charitable of read he comes across as bellyflopping follower who couldn't make a decision about what he wanted for 3 years.

I think somewhere along the lines something from the original idea got lost in the writing. To the writers who know this character inside and out and created him, Phee probably comes across as someone who struggled for years and was very conflicted and tourtured, unfortunatly the structure the chose for the plot doesn't have much time to show that to us.

Character reveals should always feel like they make sense, you should be able to go back and fit what you previously knew about the character with the new reveal. The reveal should feel like something that re-orients the puzzle, or helps you to put something in a different prospective. Not something that totally breaks everything that came before.

Reveals that are meant to make you feel like everything you knew about that character was a lie are much trickier to writer and balance, and crucially YOU MUST TREAT THEM LIKE THEY DO.

I never got the sense that the show wanted me to see Phee's betrayal and flipping on New as a bad thing, as something that goes against what the audience believed the character to be.

It just comes across that he is going from sympathic villain to tourtured anti-hero. At least that is what it feels like the writer wanted to show with that. Not that I see Tan or Post episode 9 Phee as sympathic villains. It feels like the writers saw them like that.

[dribs-and-drabbles]

Get to know me ask game

Thanks for the tag @colourme-feral @telomeke @wen-kexing-apologist and @waitmyturtles (and sorry it took so long for me to get round to it!)

RULES: bold the ones that are true & tag 10 people to do it.

APPEARANCE

blonde hair // I prefer loose clothing to tight clothing // I have one or more piercings // I have at least one tattoo // I have dyed or highlighted my hair (previously, yes, not right now) // I have gotten plastic surgery // I have or had braces // I sunburn easily // I have freckles // I paint my nails // I typically wear makeup // I don’t often smile (my rbf is a worried scowl, so I have to remember not to frown and to smile instead) // I am pleased with how I look // I prefer Nike to Adidas // I wear baseball hats backwards

HOBBIES & TALENTS

I play a sport // I can play an instrument // I am artistic (I dance) // I know more than one language (English & Swedish) // I have won a trophy in some sort of competition (in gymnastics or dance when I was a kid) // I can cook or bake without a recipe (cook, not bake) // I know how to swim // I enjoy writing // I can do origami // I prefer movies to tv shows // I can execute a perfect somersault // I enjoy singing // I could survive in the wild on my own // I have read a new book series this year // I enjoy spending time with friends // I travel during work or school breaks (not every break, but yes) // I can do a handstand (quite well actually)

RELATIONSHIP

I am in a relationship // I have been single for over a year // I have a crush // I have a best friend who I’ve known for ten years // my parents are together // I have dated my best friend // I am adopted // my crush has confessed to me // I have a long distance relationship // I am an only child // I give advice to my friends (if they ask for it) // I have made an online friend // I met up with someone I have met online

AESTHETICS

I have heard the ocean in a conch shell (probably at some point but a long time ago) // I have watched the sun rise // I enjoy rainy days (normally, just not this summer since it's done nothing but rain) // I have slept under the stars // I meditate outside // the sound of chirping calms me // I enjoy the smell of the beach // I know what snow tastes like // I listen to music to fall asleep (not all the time but it helps if I can't get to sleep - the trick is to queue 4/5 songs and let your mind focus on them, then when they finish and it goes silent you fall asleep) // I enjoy thunderstorms // I enjoy cloud watching // I have attended a bonfire // I pay close attention to colours (moi?! 😂) // I find mystery in the ocean // I enjoy hiking on nature paths // autumn is my favourite season

MISCELLANEOUS

I can fall asleep in a moving vehicle // I am the mom friend (without being a mum) // I live by a certain quote (focus on what you can control not on what you can't) // I like the smell of sharpies // I am involved in extracurricular activities (this sounds very student-centric...which I am not...but does watching qls and writing about them on tumblr count?) // I enjoy Mexican food (but no guac for me - avocados make me sick) // I can drive a stick shift (we call it a 'manual' but yes I can, on both sides of the road) // I believe in true love // I make up scenarios to fall asleep (not all the time but I have done) // I sing in the shower (not loudly) // I wish I lived in a video game // I have a canopy above my bed // I am multiracial // I am a redhead // I own at least 3 dogs

I presume most people have either done this or been tagged but I'll tag ten anyway just in case... @grapejuicegay @thegalwhorants @squeakygeeky @leconcombrerit @kattahj @benkaaoi @btwinlines @lurkingteapot @callipigio @vegasandhishedgehog

[mystery-of-arkham-asylum]

I find myself disliking Lauren more and more as time goes on. But your art of her keeps me from hating her completely.

She looks amazing!! As per usual.

The stars apparently aren't aligned yet for my brain to decide it is The Right Time tm to catch up with Welcome to Night Vale even though I was kind of bored, so I just sketched Lauren designs again. At least she's cute, godhood suits her, girlboss your way to the Sun my girl, totally deserve it.

[jasper-unofficial]

Afxsxjdryjbg I'm still giggling and being emotional over today's episode, and

1) GIVE ME HOPE FOR KORNWAI yes please

2) I was scrolling through my playlist and The Graveyard near the house by The Airborne Toxic Event gave me major PatPran feels. I cannot live through this alone, so I thought I'd share. I don't know, it has this whole "love defies all" and "it will always be worth it" vibe and zqexhjyswvjk

(I can mostly speak in "asrgjibrgdsr", capitalized or not right now and I had to fight ten layers of shyness to send an ask but I love this series so much I need to yell with people too)

jdklgjkfjgd yes same!!

1) i'm telling you - it's fucking happening!! considering inkpa, there was no reason at all to put in that moment with wai and pa, except it did start making more sense, when korn stepped into the frame in all his foreshadowing glory 😏

2) ok well you actually made me cry with this recommendation, so i'm just going to leave the song and the lyrics that touched me to my core here, because they are perfect:

And then the letters all pass through my head With the words that I was told About the fading flesh of life and love The failures of the bold I can list each crippling fear like I'm reading from a will

And I'll defy everyone and love you still I will carry you with me up every hill And if you die before I die I'll carve your name out of the sky I'll fall asleep with your memory and dream of where you lie Maybe better to move on and to let life just carry on and I may be wrong

[talesofsymphoniac]

leconcombrerit replied to your post: you know what, fuck it. i’ll say it. i’m not...

I haven’t read the Kratos novel (can’t be bothered to since I can only stand small doses of Kratos at once), but isn’t Anna in there ? Is it that bad and unhealthy in it ?

Okay, I guess this is valid, because I haven’t read much outside canon sources anyway since translations are so hard to find. I’m only talking about Kranna as far as what the game says about it.

[slayerkitty]

The DFF Experience: A Dead Friend Forever Fandom Round Up (Part 2*)

(screencap by @blmpff)

Theories (Episode 11-12):

My Two Cents on White Being Non Pt 1 by @queenofhtesarcastic

My Two Cents on White Being Non Pt 2 by @queenofhtesarcastic

Wacky Theory Time by @hastalahamon

New Always Meant for Everyone to Die by @hastalahamon

Non is Alive by @moonsunpenguin

Fluke Uploaded the Video by @yellingaboutkp

Finale Theory 1 by @ppeonppeonhan

Who Will Survive vs Die in DFF @queenofhtesarcastic

Non is Still Alive by @queenofhtesarcastic

Non is Still Alive by @befuddledcinnamonroll

Meta:

Character Analysis (Episodes 1-9)

On Jin’s cowardice and bravery by @yellingaboutkp

On Por’s moment in the spotlight by @leconcombrerit

Phee and Jin as parallels in episode 7 by @raelle-writing

Por and other characters’ roles as leaders by @leconcombrerit

On Fluke by @fracturediron

On Non’s parents by @fracturediron

On Non as a "hidden character" by @flamevbirdv

Phi hasn’t told New he and Non broke up yet? by @respectthepetty

Something Something PhiJinNon by @bellamygate

On Non’s Mom and the Grief of Losing a Child by @theflagscene

Non and Walls by @heretherebedork

Core Five on Friendship: Non, Phee and Tan by @colourme-feral

Tan is the Devil by @lukaherehelp

What Tan Does/Doesn’t Know (Tan is Regina George) by @respectthepetty

PheeJin vs PheeNon Parallels by @colourme-feral

Tan vs Phi And How They're Coping by @nutcasewithaknife

PheeJin Window Sex and Non Sex Tape Parallel by @bellamygate

On Tan/New by @fracturediron

Tan/New Analysis by @fracturediron

Non’s Thoughts on PheeJin if Non is Still Alive by @vegasthehedgehog

PheeNon Were Not a Good Couple by @yellingaboutkp

Phee's Character is Confusing by @crysta1ized

The Good and Bad in DFF (Character Analysis) by @blramblingx2

Character Analysis (Episode 10)

The Red String of Fate: Phee's Relationships in DFF by @brifrischu

Phee's Reaction to Non and Keng Makes Perfect Sense for the Character by @the-pink-quill

Phee: Torn Between the Past and the Future by @raelle-writing

Jin and the Morality of Useless Goodness by @salamander89

Jin and The Video by @kerrikins

Who is White by @tbhimnoteasyonmyself

Phee as an Unreliable Narrator by @quicksrlver

Phee is Lying by @leconcombrerit

What the Fuck is up with Phee? by @tbhimnoteasyonmyself

Phee and Tan sitting in a tree P-L-O-T-T-I-N-G by @mikuni14 with contributions by @italianpersonwithashippersheart

Por Being a Static Character by @bubbipond

Jin is the Only Bitch Who Respected Non by @yellingaboutkp

*Thanks to the fandom being amazing and writing and creating like crazy, we had to add a Part 3! You can find it here. We also added a Part 4. It's here. In case you missed it, Part 1 is here.

[mystery-of-arkham-asylum]

Thank you 💙 I like your blog too.

@fluffytimearts @mashedpotatosinacup @that-dumpster-angel-from-space @picas-art @finzphoenix @leconcombrerit

I'm gonna try to start a random chain (it probably won't work because I don't have a lot of followers but idc)

Just tag a few blogs u like and hope they awnser until it takes like 3 minutes to get to the bottom of the post lol

@lalaverdecia @meekspoetssociety @dazeddoodles @eighties-toons @leovaldiva3uwu @mythingsandstuff @spiritual-activity @that-thing-on-your-shoe

[charthanry]

TAG 9 PEOPLE YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW BETTER

I was tagged by @hughungrybear :)

THREE SHIPS

Current or all-time? I’ll just go with the three that immediately come to mind:

Pat and Pran, Bad Buddy (obvs)

Steve and Tony, MCU

Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian, MDZS

*Honorable mention to Jake and Amy from Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

FIRST SHIP

Ever? Hmm, before Pacey and Joey it was Anne and Gilbert from the Anne of Green Gables series (books AND Kevin Sullivan’s tv adaptation from the mid-1980s). Gilbert Blythe was my first crush. Anne and Gil’s relationship taught my younger and impressionable self that love was friendship caught on fire and to never settle for anything less; that you can fall both slowly and ardently. Gilbert and Anne set the goalpost for all my future ships, with Gilbert proving that sometimes the nice guy does get the girl.

Also, I cannot imagine a more picturesque backdrop to fall in love in than Prince Edward Island. It’s on my bucket list to visit.

LAST SONG

I’ve been listening to a lot of K-Drama OST lately. I usually have one song on loop for weeks until it wears itself out on my spotify. Last month it was “With You” by Jimin and Ha Sung Woon from Our Blues (fantastic drama btw, I ugly cried in nearly every episode). This week it’s “Goodbye” by WENDY from The Beauty Inside.

LAST MOVIE

I’m embarrassed to admit this, but just yesterday I rewatched Leap Year on Netflix. I shamefully also own the DVD. Gah, *hides face* don’t look at me. 

It’s a cheesy, clichéd, and improbable romcom about an American who impulsively follows her boyfriend to Ireland to propose to him on February 29th. Cue the endless mishaps and series of incredibly manufactured bad luck. She ends up falling instead for the stranger who helps her on the way. The script is silly and absurdly unrealistic, but damn if the chemistry and charm of the two leads doesn’t save the day. 

My favorite scene is when Matthew Goode’s ‘Declan’ wakes up alone on a bus stop bench and realizes that Amy Adam’s ‘Anna’ has left him without waking him to say goodbye. The disappointment and regret in his body language is so palpable that Anna who is standing behind him watching, feels every ounce of his turmoil. She studies him for a beat before breaking the moment with banter. And damn, Matthew conveyed all this just by the way he stands and very subtly slumps his shoulders in defeat. And Anna’s reaction to seeing him this way is just...so telling that you want to shake her and say c’mon girl, you’re chasing the wrong guy. 

It doesn’t hurt that this era of young Matthew Goode is totally my aesthetic. Just look at him. Add to all this the brogue-y accent and WOOF.

CURRENTLY READING

I consume written media the same way I consume music and shows. I devour it. I practically subsist on Ao3 content alone. Lately, it’s been a lot of Red, White & Royal Blue fics in anticipation and giddiness for the upcoming movie.

CURRENTLY WATCHING

I’m in the middle of season 2 of my annual West Wing binge-watch. I’m by no means into politics, but I have yet to discover better American television than Aaron Sorkin’s The West Wing. It’s nearly perfect in its execution.

Currently waiting on a lot of shows to finish airing so that I can binge watch (I’m not making the mistake I did with Bad Buddy by watching it every week, I nearly died). On my list: 

Never Let Me Go

My School President

Crash Course in Romance

Moonlight Chicken

CURRENTLY CONSUMING

Right now? Snacking on Irvins Salted Egg Salmon Skin chips that I got from Costco. It’s deceptively bad for you (high in both cholesterol and sodium content), but the ‘dangerously addictive’ boast on the packaging is wildly accurate.

CURRENTLY CRAVING

Food-wise? A big bowl of homemade pho with all the accoutrements. 

ONWARD TAGS

@depressingly-lonely @hereforlou @reasonablysurmised @aliceisathome @keelpay @inhumanevoid @frostluvrs @faillen @leconcombrerit @rosetintednerdglasses and anyone else that wants to join!

[wolfieamwhitevoid]

DTIYS entry

I have entered your dear DTIYS @leconcombrerit

I hope you like it-

PS the chess pieces took like an hour to draw and I've half assed most of them-

It was fUn-

:)

[tulipscomeinallsortsofcolors]

leconcombrerit 's latest art gives me major mpd logan vibes

oh NICE i love it! right here for folks who wanna see

[vash-the-trans-catboy]

34, 37, and 42?

Thanks for the ask!

34. What’s your favorite flower? Roses. I love them because they are rlly pretty but can stab you and it’s my middle name

37. Do you prefer cats or dogs? Cats! I absolutely love cats, I have 4

42. Tag 5 of your favorite blogs

@dillydallydove

@goodieghosty

@aidensm8

@leconcombrerit

@subterfuge-specialist

Based on this post

[noodlstoppr]

🌸 10 Characters Tag 🌸

Rules: Make a new post, name 10 characters from 10 different fandoms that you like, then tag 10 peopleI only have like one close friend on this site so I'll just be tagging a few peeps I've interacted with and am interested in seeing their answers ;w;

Tagged by @sinnamonfox ! Hello thank you for being interested in me 🤣 jk I appreciate it ily qwq

I'll be listing whatever comes to mind first, my brain is a mess

1. King George III (Hamilton)

2. Aaravos (The Dragon Prince)

3. Carlos the Scientist (Welcome to Night Vale)

4. Chloe Price (Life is Strange)

5. Finn McNamara (Life is Strange 2)

6. Klaus Hargreeves (The Umbrella Academy)

7. Connor (Detroit Become Human)

8. Robin (Stranger Things)

9. Marshall Lee (Adventure Time)

10. Eponine (Lés Misérables)

Yay I managed to complete the list w/o the app or my phone crashing 😌

tagging some peeps @king-bito @spidahthomas @stayneil @kaia001 @larrylurex5 @fatcharlie @leconcombrerit

edit: sorry about the tags !! fixed it now aaaaa

[mikuni14]

@italianpersonwithashippersheart @leconcombrerit

I must say that the reason why I waited until the finale to judge Phee and Jin's behavior in episodes 10 and 11 was because it seemed too stupid and ridiculous to me (especially Phee). It's very possible that the original script for these two characters was different, it's very possible that, like in Only Friends, business and branding decided about the finale 🙄 What's interesting is that I think they could have kept PheeJin as the couple™ AND kept the integrity and credibility of these characters AND "punish" them both.

Only now, after the finale, do I start to wonder how much of Phee's behavior was actually about Non. And was Phee ever truly in love with Non, and how much did he like him as this sweet, quiet, obedient boy (you can see that Phee has a type 😎). Yes, he agreed to the "espionage operation", but it is clearly visible that he quickly lost interest in it. Moreover, he became interested in Jin even faster, and it was not a "fake interest to obtain information", because if it were, Phee would have continued a relationship with Jin for the benefits. No, he "broke up" with Jin because he started developing feelings for him. And you can't catch new feelings when the old ones are still there, so Phee was no longer in love with Non and it had only been a few weeks (?). Evidently both Phee and Jin only had a crush on Non because they became attracted to each other too quickly and too easily.

It doesn't really bother me that Phee fell in love with Jin, that he wants to be with him, that he didn't want to kill anyone. What pisses me off is his hypocrisy and the fact that Phee didn't have to do most of these things. Phee became interested in going to the cottage only when he found out that it was to say goodbye to JIN. Any revelations about Non's horrible fate make no impression on him. And really, I find it very difficult to accept how easily he chose "friends" over Tan, and that he did it after he already found out about their involvement in what happened with Non.

And what really pisses me off is that Phee, like all morally superior people, judged the bullies leniently and the victim who takes revenge for his wrongs harshly. He never once attacks ANYONE, even when he finds out what they did to Jin and Tee. He ONLY attacks TAN. And he immediately shoots at him, given the choice between stunning him and killing him, he chooses the latter!!

In fact, Phee had plenty of options to stop it all, he could have not been involved at all, he could have been honest with himself and admitted what he really wanted. And the fact that he went to this house to "get everyone high and get information" - I don't even want to comment on how stupid it seems in hindsight, because HOW could they do that??? So why did Phee go there? Because I guess it was just to meet Jin. What's even more spooky is that he wanted to meet him, he initiates sex again, and at the same time plans to poison him and extract information from him? As a result of a drug that causes fear? So this trip could have turned into a nightmare at any moment, because how would Tan and Phee know that they are the most afraid of Non? After all, they could have been afraid of something completely different, something worse for them. Fortunately, we know that Tan had a different plan from the beginning (what a king, love him for that), but Phee was exceptionally stupid, which suggests that he didn't think about it at all because he had a different goal, not related to Non.

Idk, it all just doesn't make sense 😑

@leconcombrerit This is a very interesting point and you're right, Jin is brooding at their movie premiere, but after Phee shows up, he comes back sweet, with hearts in his eyes, and then Jin is gloomy again, but this time because of Phee. So, as in the case of Tee, the appearance of a new romance was enough for the remorse, thoughts about Non and the dark mood to disappear ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How funny it is that throughout the entire series I didn't share or sometimes even understand the dislike of many viewers towards Phee and Jin, only to hate them literally in the last minutes of the finale 😁

I liked Phee and Jin's dynamic from the beginning and I liked this relationship more than PheeNon's. Phee, both in the present and in flashbacks, was a great character for me, very much my style, and I also had a lot of sympathy for Jin. I was also convinced that Phee was on his path of revenge/searching for answers, and that Jin didn't upload the video.

I was so confident in my opinions that even when Phee spilled the beans to Jin, I was convinced that he wasn't that stupid and mean and that it was all part of some bigger plan. Likewise, until the end I was convinced that Jin was wrong and he was not the one who leaked this video, also based on Fluke's words (who said to Tee for some reason that he "knows everything, INCLUDING the video").

So when the finale brought confirmation that yes, Phee was a fucking snitch, that he sided with his "friends", and that yes, Jin actually released the video like an absolute piece of shit, all my sympathy evaporated in the blink of an eye. Poof! 🥳

I understand Phee's concerns and his refusal to participate in Tan's plan, but that's not the problem, it's HOW he did it. Phee isn't trying to protect the group AND TAN, who is also his friend ffs! NO! Phee is constantly confrontational, aggressive, escalating violence, doing everything against Tan, treating him like HIS worst enemy. He openly accuses Tan when everyone is agitated and someone has a gun, provoking Tan (Tan, who according to him is a dangerous murderer!) without thinking about what he might do. Phee accuses him, Tan takes control and manages the situation so that Tee confesses what really happened with Non, so , you know, a big deal right? That's what it was all about, right? And what does Phee do? He ends the scene by pointing his gun at Tan. When Tan says "you wanted to know the truth about Non, now you know" how does Phee react? He punches Tan. I'm absolutely surprised and appalled that after 3 years of friendship with Tan, watching the nightmare that is his life, saving him, when it comes to choosing, Phee comes so easily to choose "friends", without offering Tan a single bit of kindness, a kind word, extended hand. As if their friendship, their cause, their shared past, Non, didn't exist, didn't matter.

THE MORE BAD HE FINDS ABOUT THE BOYS, THE MORE HE HELPS THEM AND THE MORE HE IS ON THEIR SIDE. This is something I just cannot understand at all! In addition, Phee shot Tan even though he had a camera stand right next to the gun, used successfully many times in the series! 😆 He could have hit Tan unconscious, he didn't have to kill him!! And, what really pisses me off, he shot Tan in defense of Tee!!! Then he helped Tee and Jin, people who ruined and led to Non's death with their choices and actions. I don't know how much more you can insult his memory!

The ending itself is the final nail in the coffin for Phee and Jin's reputation in my house 😎 As I understand it, the final scenes are their hallucinations. And these hallucinations are nice and normal, they have a nice life, they fulfill their dreams, they have a career, they go to college - everything that Non and Tan don't have. In their hallucination there is no room for reflection, for regret, or for any discomfort. They are selfish even in hallucinations that show their real feelings. They still have the nerve to analyze Tee, the only one on whom the events of this house left any impact. I'm not surprised that Non himself appeared in Phee's hallucination, since Phee didn't find a place for him 😏

Their hallucinations, the earlier ones, are also interesting. As much as I loved Jin's hallucinations, it's telling that even in his guilt, Jin still made everything about himself. HE is the victim in his visions 🤷‍♀️ In the same way, Phee wakes up from his visions because it is he who decides which Non is real and which is not. Which means that Jin, instead of feeling bad for what he did to Non, feels bad for imagining "what if it were me." And Phee's guilt is not deep enough to allow Non to dominate his visions, as it happened with Tee, for example.

So in the end, I'm sad to say that as someone who really liked Phee and Jin, that after the finale - fuck them 😈

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Lovely art trade with @leconcombrerit

Her colourful art made my day. So CUTE 😭💖👌