#like when lestat says i don't like sleeping angry he also means i don't like sleeping without you

[loumands]

My favorite Louis’ strategic lie by omission moment is still when in the first episodes he conveniently shows himself and Lestat going to sleep only when they happen to be fighting so he can imply that they sleep in separate coffins, but then Claudia’s narration later reveals they actually mostly sleep in the same coffin and those scenes were just the vampiric equivalent of Lestat being exiled to the couch

[loustat-0]

Here's the reasons why I don't connect well with Loumand in the book :

So one of them is because Louis never even once admitted to Lestat or Claudia so ruthlessly that he loved Lestat and suddenly with Armand he became more free in love & more open , I don't think it was because Armand listened to him or understood him better because there are some parts of iwtv book where Lestat was capable of those yet Louis thought it was manipulation 🙄 . Why didn't he ever think the same about Armand ? 😏 The answer is simple because Armand didn't exactly shown his mind powers to Louis yet . And even when he told Louis he did that & he used it on Louis to make him turn Madeline Louis still forgave him ??? And just asked not to do it again ! And Armand didn't do it ? 😏 What makes us sure he didn't ? Cause there are two sentences which showed he most probably did use it again . 1. " Go to sleep Louis " after Louis burnt the theater & wanted to escape Paris & 2. When he admitted that when he heard Lestat survived he said this :

While it is true that Armand might have kept the fact that Lestat was alive from Louis to protect him it is also worth mentioning Armand does many manipulative things to help the people he loved too . Armand is able to read anyone's mind & if he had read Louis's he must've known if Lestat being alive will make Louis feel anything or not , right ? And why didn't he tell Lestat about Louis being alive ? 😏 What was he protecting Lestat from ? Other than the fact that if he knew he would probably do whatever he could to find Louis again & talk to him & they would probably leave Armand again & get back together ? 😬 So no it wasn't all about protecting Louis from himself or anyone it was for himself too .

All I can think of is how numb Louis became when Claudia died & Armand & Louis kinda fell apart & just lived together because there were no other vampires who would accept them & they were both afraid of being alone & not finding anyone who could love them again as they once loved each other . In my opinion they practically stayed together out of desperation for not being alone & for Louis because he didn't have anyone else to lean on as powerful as Armand . And Armand was emotionally so obsessed with Louis & he couldn't end it easily.

Armand tried to make Louis separated with Claudia a lot he wanted Louis for himself & he didn't want to share him which in the book Lestat never tried to do . And then he orchestrated a whole show to get rid of Claudia & make Louis believe Lestat was responsible for her doom 🙄 although poor Claudia was already doomed because of Lestat's selfishness of making someone so young but let's not forget that they punished her for killing her maker & one of their kind . Another attempt of Armand to separate Louis & Lestat & let's not forget did Louis ever actually ask himself if Lestat was still in the theater or not when he burnt it down ? Yes He didn't even care at that moment he was angry & he was mourning & that can make you not think of whatever you're doing at that moment . Because later when Louis said this :

Doesn't this indicate that Louis cared who was burnt in that theater ? He said I didn't really care I hadn't thought of Lestat at all the night I torched the theater . Isn't it weird to you that he thought of Santiago & Celeste but didn't really care about Lestat ? 🤔 And if he didn't then why did he burn Lestat with them ? He said he didn't hate him for Claudia's death . Don't you sense some mind power here ? 👀

And look what Louis said about Lestat being alive : I cannot convey to you the feeling that came over me when I heard this .

I mean what does that say ? Why does Louis say this ?

And one more thing if Lestat had escaped the theater who helped him escape ? He didn't escape in fact Armand had taken him again to the tower 😏 .

4. Finally this is why I don't like book Loumand . No hate on AMC Loumand what so ever because I haven't seen anything from them but if the show runners want to do the books they have to at least notice one of these flaws & voids in Louis & Armand's relationship as much as they did in Louis & Lestat's relationship . 😉

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My opinion on the context behind Louis and Armand in Polynesian Mary's was more or less the same as what you mentioned, but tbh I AM curious as to why Armand possibly (and likely suddenly then) decided to save Daniel from Louis by stopping him from killing Daniel outright. I could easily see Armand say the same things he said to Daniel when Daniel stumbled across Lestat's old sleeping grounds in Devil's Minion (that he can take his tapes, that no one will believe him anyway), as a means to scare him off at first, but I do wonder why Armand suddenly decided to not only momentarily spare Daniel then but also go against Louis in order to save him from immediate death 🤔. I can't imagine Armand caring much for Louis' victims, or for people in general, so the fact that he still decided to save Daniel's life then seems significant, even if he did it without much thought as to why.

Hi Anon!

At the moment, this is all something I can only go with what we saw happen in the books as to why Armand decided to save Daniel's life from Louis that night. And that is actually because Daniel intrigued Armand.

Now first off, in the book, what happened was that Louis did drink from Daniel in that attack. He drank from Daniel and left him for dead, but Daniel didn't die. Daniel wakes up from it all hours later, Louis now long gone. (The 1994 movie changed it to Louis just attacking Daniel without drinking from him). Daniel then makes his plan to go and find Lestat.

Now, what the show could do is have Louis drink Daniel to the same point as in the books, but have Armand be the one to stop him from fully killing Daniel.

Because, in truth, it's kind of a retcon - in the books - that Louis didn't drink from Daniel and kill him because "the little drink" was something Louis was completely incapable of doing to a human until his power upgrade in Merrick. Until then, Louis always killed his victim when he fed, because he never could not. He didn't have the strength not to.

But I don't think the show is really going to go with that anyway, since we saw Louis do "the little drink" from Damek just fine in EP2.

So the question still remains - why would Armand stop Louis from killing Daniel? And the only reason I can come up with is the exact same reason Armand didn't kill Daniel in the books at first:

Because Daniel knew his name. Daniel knew Armand's name was Armand.

And that very fact fascinated Armand. That someone knew his name, knew what he was, and wasn't dead.

Because, on the whole, it also doesn't really make sense that, in Queen of the Damned, Armand let Daniel go after locking him up for four days. Hell, locking Daniel up - and not just killing him outright after he'd heard the tapes and knew Daniel was making a book out of them - was a bit off at that point I'd say (it'd been almost a century since Armand had last had a human pet of that type by that point). Letting Daniel go, letting Daniel run, was even more off for him IMO.

But I think it's clear Daniel's defiance - demanding the Dark Gift from Armand, even in the face of likely being killed at that moment - intrigued Armand.

The fact that Daniel was adamant that he wouldn't go mad from knowing that vampires were real - that it was all true - also fascinated Armand.

And that final point, that Daniel knew Armand's name and was alive with that knowledge is what tipped things over into Armand deciding that he didn't want to kill Daniel. "Not right now."

In the end, Daniel piqued Armand's interest. That is what initially saved Daniel's life from Armand killing him in New Orleans when they first encountered each other in QotD.

And so, if I had to guess, I think that is probably also what is going to be what has Armand stopping Louis (who was only going to do so because he was angry/felt disrespected by Daniel's ask; before that he was very likely going to let Daniel go, so his interview with Daniel could be published and such) from killing Daniel on the show. That, maybe for the first time in forever, there was this human who not only wasn't afraid but also wasn't going crazy at the revelation of vampires being real. And not only that, he even dared to ask for the Dark Gift.

Heck, from what Louis said about it, Daniel kinda even demanded to be given it.

I can see that alone piquing Armand's interest in Daniel. Because I don't think it's a guess to think it hadn't happened with any other human that Louis had taken back to Divisadero street before.

Before Daniel, the only purpose of bringing humans back there IMO was for Louis to feed on them while they were high, and get high himself off their blood, in order to numb himself. Not casual sex with random hookups - though that probably still happened - and for sure not sitting down and telling his vampiric life story to an eager young journalist.

As to the whole thing about how Daniel would have learned Armand's name when Louis hadn't even gotten to the part of the story that introduced Armand in the show? I can see Louis saying Armand's name out loud when Armand stops him from killing Daniel or something. Very simple, very easy. And Daniel remembering it, even if he does pass out afterward or something.

And so there's that final point - Daniel knowing Armand's name, and still being alive.

So yeah. Just my guess, but I think the show's reason will be the same as the books on this one, at least is my guess right now. And that is that simply put, Daniel intrigued Armand.

As Armand told Daniel before he let him go and told him to start running in QotD:

"I want to see what you do, I want to know what you are."

And I feel that might be what happens with regard to their show versions as well. And why Armand would even bother to step in and save Daniel's life from an angry Louis in the first place.