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seths-wife · 2 years

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6 to 14 and 35 to 43 !

I think i will make multiple posts about those since i usually talk a lot and go deep into stuff. Under the cut is the answer to 6.

6 - Favourite gakupo variety?

I usually like characters that have interesting themes attached to them and nice writing, therefore Cherubim.

1) His backstory and motivations are tragic and well described: after being shunned all his life and being called a demon because of his birthmark, the man became horribly love starved, longing for the acceptance and the affection any human creature desires and longs for.

“What did you want?”

“…Love. I wanted someone to love me.”

“Was your wish granted by killing people?”

“No. I’ve lost even more now. I’ve been a fool.”

“…”

“So I’ve had enough. I will put an end to everything by dying. Because I was never supposed to exist in the first place.” ("lunacy of duke venomania", prologue). Thus, Cherubim made the contract as an alternative to committing suicide.

The man decided to give life another chance, trusting the witch in front of him who claimed that the sword would have granted his wish and longing for love.

That was an act he did out of desperation (as if you were starving, barely eating in weeks; then one day you met a man who suddenly gave you an apple, right when you were about to die for starvation. Of course, in that state, you wouldn't even check the apple in front of you; it could have had moss on it or it could have been poisoned, but you didn't care, you just wanted not to die of starvation. That is what occured to Cherubim with his emotional needs).

Following this same analogy, the man didn't take time to think about the purpose of the contract or the motives behind the sorceress' proposal: implant a seed of malice within him that would drive him to extreme lust, so that he could have sex with multiple women who would then bear children with the hers gene.

2) Aside from the realistic motivations and backstory, what I liked about Cherubim's story was the progression in which the duke descended into a more warped and deviated mindset...

I didn't see this pointed out so often but...Cherubim didn't just suddenly turn into a deviant who takes women away for sex without their consent in a blink of an eye. The process was gradual and well depicted, in my opinion.

-Initially, Cherubim was scared of the sudden change in his sex drive and tried to run away from the women he met, much like his descendent, Gammon, did.

I suppose that means that while he might have been avoiding people all this time, ultimately he can’t go against his true nature. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 5).

He had known. He had known that it would be like this, and so he’d avoided having anyone near him in his mansion until now.

Because he’d realized that there were abnormal feelings within him. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 6).

-Eventually, he couldn't resist his pulsions and invited Lukana into his mansion, indulging in the lust for her and women in general in his mind sometimes, but repelling those thoughts at first, finding them inappropriate.

There was her pure sleeping face. Those soft lips. He wanted to dirty them in his sensuality–

He swallowed a huge gulp of saliva.

…

What am I thinking? This is foolish.

Sateriasis regained his senses, and completely unfolded his sense of reason, which had become crumpled up in the corner of his heart as though in a wastepaper basket. So doing, he made an effort to suppress his selfish desires. ("lunacy of the duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 6)

But when he’d said he was searching for particular women–

That was a lie. I was searching for anyone, as long as they were a woman.

Even so he had somehow managed to keep himself from taking the next step.

His feelings–this extreme lust that could be called madness, had become more firmly rooted in him as time went on, to say nothing of how it had steadily swelled. ("lunacy of the duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 6).The turning point was when Lukana triggered his rejection trauma by repeating the same words that Gumina used to trigger that trauma all the same. It was then that Cherubim started to feed those feelings that were swelling inside of him, as if he attempted to fix the traumatic situation by forcing the girl to accept him and taking possession of her using his powers, brainwashing her into entering the harem. At that stage, Cherubim would have done anything to undo the rejection, he couldn't stand that any more after everything he's gone through.

You can read about those things in scenes 7-8 of the first chapter of the novel. - After that, the man became less and less selective in the choice of his women, starting with Mikulia who was chosen only out of the convenience of the situation (she saw the capture of Lukana and needed to erase any potential witness), plus, she was beautiful.

“Those horns! Those claws! Those wings! She saw everything!”

“I see, that’s trouble isn’t it.”

Though despite saying so, Sateriasis’ expression didn’t show any sense of impending danger.

“But there’s no need to be anxious, ir.”

He moved away from Lukana and approached the green haired girl, looking into her frightened face.

“Now that I’ve got a better look, you’re quite beautiful. How about it? Won’t you come back with me to my mansion?” ("lunacy of the duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 8) . -It's remarkable how initially, he made the contract to obtain Gumina (who was the one who he really loved). But as time passed, Cherubim started confusing "lust" with actual "love".

To the end, Sateriasis’ goal was to obtain “Gumina” and make her into his wife. So he couldn’t marry Lukana, and it would have been very inconvenient for it to get out that she was enclosed in his mansion.

When it came to a partner to keep up the demon’s power, there was no particular need for it to be Lukana. He could release her brainwashing and send her home. He could work off his lust with prostitutes in town.

Even so, Sateriasis had no intention of letting Lukana go.

I care about “Gumina”, but I care about Lukana too. A rule like monogamy is idiotic. What’s wrong with loving all the women you care about? ("lunacy of the duke venomania", chapter 2, scene 2) .

Lukana herself stated in her "purple dream" "prophecy" that:

“Lord Venomania, after this you will make many women your wives, and spend many days drowning in pleasure. To you, and perhaps to the women as well, this will be happy. Even if there’s only one woman who truly shows in your eyes.”

Sateriasis’ red eyes shined all the brighter. Lukana’s eye widened as though in response to that.

“But Lord Venomania…waiting for you… at the end of that…is…ru…in. To avoid that…you must…not…lose sight of…true…love…” ("lunacy of the duke venomania", chapter 1, scene 8) .

-As more time passed, Cherubim's lust became indiscriminate to the point that he subjugated girls regardless of their sexual preferences, see Lolan Eve.

Today a new beauty arrived in Sateriasis’ mansion.

There was a town called “Lisa-a” to the east of Lasaland. Like Lasaland, it was a town that flourished on trade, and had a marked influence from eastern culture.

Lolan Eve was a star dancer who belonged to a big theater in Lisa-A. Her beauty was such that it even became the talk of Lasaland from time to time, and as such Sateriasis had always wanted to see her with his own eyes at least once.

When Sateriasis visited, the theater had prepared a special seat for him, as he was the local lord. It certainly had a great view, but as he’d been set in the farthest spot from the stage it had been a little dissatisfying to him.

The show began, and at one look at Lolan Eve when she got on the stage, Sateriasis decided that he would make her his third lover. At the sight of the lovely girl dancing with healthy, swarthy skin, he had been extremely captivated by her appearance, and charmed. He figured that she must mesmerize a lot of men.

After the show was over, Sateriasis had talked to the manager of the theater and arranged to meet with Lolan. Two days after that, she vanished. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 3, scene 2).

-Notice also how the kidnappings didn't stop once Gumina was captured: as time went by the man's lust went completely out of control and continued to kidnap and brainwash more women into loving him, becoming more and more intemperate all the same.

The fact that Sateriasis continued to kidnap women—that was proof that the demon was continuing to take root inside of him. Sateriasis was simply unable to resist his desire to keep growing stronger. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 4, scene 4). -As time went by, Cherubim became extremely intemperate, to the point he was lusting after any woman who would come across his path, not thinking about nearly anything else.

“In order to grant her dear wish, she swore her allegiance to a wicked sorceress. But then, I didn’t actually tell her what it was that would be happening at the Donald estate.”

IR turned up her nose with pride.

But Sateriasis was already thinking about a completely different topic.

“Tette Cetera, huh? …She has a bit of a provincial accent, but now that you mention her she is a fairly lovely woman. Hm, someday I’d like to–”

“…You’ve lost all your scruples when it comes to women.”

“That’s not it at all. Even I have the standard that I need to like her first.” ("lunacy of duke Venomania", chapter 4, scene 6).

-Eventually, the duke's mind became so terribly warped to the point of thinking his actions of kidnapping and brainwashing as the ones of God, even calling himself a "god".

“Love between those of different status, familial love, love bound to parentage, forbidden love…All of the women who come to this mansion are hungering for love in some form. But love is not something that they can always find fulfillment for. Princess Maylis, have you experienced this yourself?”

Baron Conchita’s face came up in Maylis’ mind, but she immediately shook it off.

“…No. Never.”

“Oh? Then you are fortunate…No, perhaps that makes you unfortunate. At any rate, I have a spell that allows me to fulfill what they hunger for. And so I was able to grant these women a new happiness. This…is the work of ‘god’. I am a god who makes women happy.”

These were Sateriasis’ true feelings. He had legitimately started to think that the being dwelling inside him was not a “demon”, but rather a “god”. ("lunacy of duke Venomania", chapter 5, scene 7).

-The delirium continued when the duke said he wanted to conquer the world by making every woman his wife.

“I can. I know how, and I have a collaborator who will help me. …If I can, I’d like to make all of the women in the world my wives. Without women, a man cannot leave behind any descendants. Once I’ve done that, the whole world will have to obey me.”

It was a magnificent and crazy plan. It was so absurd it made Maylis’ head hurt. ("lunacy of duke Venomania", chapter 5, scene 7).

-Adding to this, Cherubim became so lust-centered and obsessed about increasing his number of women to the point he didn't care at all about Lolan's death. He was just thinking about the fact that he "wanted the next woman to be a doctor", so to deal with that kind of situation more efficiently next time. Not even a thought about Lolan.

“There didn’t seem to be anything wrong with Lolan when I saw her last night. I guess her condition must have taken a turn after I left…” Sateriasis mused while lounging around in bed with Lukana that night, talking as though it was someone else’s problem.

Perhaps Lolan had fallen to some sort of illness. Lukana couldn’t determine what sort of illness it was as she wasn’t a doctor, and among the other women there they had no one with any medical knowledge.

Lukana became a little anxious that something like that might happen again. Even if someone in the harem got sick, there were no doctors who could examine them there. They couldn’t call one from outside either.

Apparently having noticed this fact as a result of what had happened to Lolan, Sateriasis said flippantly, “The next woman I bring in’ll be a doctor”.

Lukana was shocked at how completely nonplussed Sateriasis was about Lolan’s death.

“Don’t you care at all about Lolan!?”

It was a rare occasion–in fact, it was the first time this had happened since she joined the harem–where Lukana was angry with Sateriasis.

“Of course I do…It’s sad, it’s very sad that Lolan’s died. But…it was inevitable, Lukana.” ("lunacy of duke Venomania", chapter 5, scene 7).

This is the lowest point the duke reached, near the end of the novel.. The man became completely sex-centered, not even caring about the women he captured in the first place (except for Gumina). The duke's mind was completely filled with lust and search for more women to the point he was completely void of any other feeling that made him a human: genuine affection, deep wishes, care for the community he ruled. In a sense Cherubim came to lose his humanity in his wish to be "loved".

The illusions swallow down everything, soon I won’t be human. ("the lunacy of the duke venomania")

But the development goes on...even after the novel.

In the short story "seven crimes and punishments" and the novel "master of the heavenly yard", Cherubim kept acting the way he did in life: all he thought about was sex and being flirty and smooth with any women he encountered to seduce them while being curt and unsociable with men. He nearly lost every other part of himself. And that is one aspect he had in common with Gilles Derais, the demon of lust.

As time went on, the duke resembled more and more the demon that possessed him, to the point they acted identically to one another, even without a contract. You can see this in this other post.

As you can see, the process of conformation to the demon didn't happen overnight; it happened gradually in the whole novel and in the next installments. I just like how this progression was portrayed.

3) Another thing I liked about the duke's character is how it's actually not only about lust. Cherubim is about envy and pride too. In a way, all his actions were an attempt to cope with his rejection trauma, connecting to the tragic backstory. Let's look at the capture of Lolan, first.

Today a new beauty arrived in Sateriasis’ mansion.

There was a town called “Lisa-a” to the east of Lasaland. Like Lasaland, it was a town that flourished on trade, and had a marked influence from eastern culture.

I see this same theme in the capture of Mirigan Adi, a well known swindler due to her beauty. Cherubim takes pride in capturing women that somehow are popular or well desired. That makes sense: in the past, he felt unloved and undesired because of his birthmark. He just thought he was unlovable.

Also, the duke was also jealous of his brother, Sateriasis, as he didn't struggle like he was, at all. Also, he was engaged to the woman he loved.

My younger brother hadn’t ridiculed me.

But I had destroyed him too.

Why?

Why did I destroy my younger brother?

…That’s right.

I had envied him.

Because he had everything that I didn’t have.

From the very moment I had first met him

I had wanted to become “Sateriasis”. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 3, scene 2).

Sateriasis was an incredibly handsome man, everyone was amazed by his looks, while, on the other hand, Cherubim was ridiculed and scorned.

“Back then you were quite the handsome young man, and young and old women alike were restless at the sight of you." ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 2, scene 4).

That said, it wouldn't have been out of place for him to have wanted to "become Sateriasis", he was everything he wished for in his life (considering he had known only him, Gumina, his father, the guard, and several servants in his father's mansion later on, his brother was the one he was the closest with and also the one he could compare the most to himself as a consequence).

So, yeah...I like how the duke's actions can be described as an unhealthy way to cope with the struggles he faced in the past. I also appreciate how he's not only lust-centered.

Moreover, I also saw in him an attempt to get revenge of the ones who made him suffer by murdering his whole family.

It wasn’t really all Gumina’s fault.

She was little more than the catalyst.

I had always wanted “love”.

I had wanted someone to love me.

But…I had been unable to attain that.

Nobody would love me.

So I destroyed them.

I destroyed everyone, as they had done to me.

Everyone who’d ridiculed me.

My father who had locked me up. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 9).

And also from the violent way the man rampaged to obtain Gumina, murdering anyone in his sight...

But tonight, Sateriasis’ heart had become extremely agitated.

And he felt as though that agitation would only be healed by free use of the demon’s power.

Sateriasis thought to himself, gazing down on the bloodstained, fallen watchmen before his eyes,

Perhaps this brutality was his true self.

He who had murdered his parents, his servants, and his older brother ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 3, scene 8).

In short, he's a very complex character and I like it.

4) The irony that surrounds his character.

It is clear how the "harem" was Cherubim's personal utopia, an utopia where finally he would have had the love and the undivided attention he has never received in the past.

It was also a utopia where he could not be rejected, no one could oppose him and say the horrible things he was told in the past. In a way, it can be considered a way to control the girls' opinions to avoid reliving the trauma he had.

Though, that didn’t mean that the women had lost their memories of before. Excluding the fact that they determinedly loved Sateriasis no matter what, and the changes to their values to accomplish that, they recalled everything about their life from before coming to the harem, and their personalities were as-is.

Lukana naturally remembered the whole story about how she ended up there, her family, her hometown, her relationship with her friends, and all kinds of other things. Including the fact that Sateriasis had turned into a demon and cast a spell on her.

Right now Lukana felt not a speck of disgust towards Sateriasis at all.

On the contrary, now she felt a great deal of doubt towards her old self’s feelings, wondering why she had tried to avoid him so much. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 4, scene 3).

Sateriasis giving out the whole truth to Lukana so readily was likely because he figured that even if she knew, under his spell as she was she wouldn’t cause him any problems. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 1).

None of the ensorcelled women could go against Sateriasis–that was how they had all become. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 1).

Too bad it was just an illusion and a delusion.

In the moment the brainwashing was lifted, the girls all fled from his mansion.

To have all of the women in the world love him–that had been little more than a delusion. On the contrary, he had been unable to obtain the love of even a single woman.

One by one, women were running away from his harem. Karchess, who had stabbed Sateriasis, was leaving with Yufina in tow.

No, my harem…my utopia… ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 8).

But even before that...even with the brainwashing, the duke was never able to completely nullify the original desires and will of the women he ensnared. He could not really control them totally, as he wished, like...when Lukana objected to the duke about what happened with Lolan.

It was an arrogance so great that he didn’t even notice anything strange in the fact that Lukana had objected to Sateriasis regarding what happened with Lolan–that she had gone against him in the first place. ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 1).

Or when Gumina kept drawing Cherubim with two faces while "Sateriasis" didn't want so.

“What is this…”

Several canvases were piled on the desk. When Sateriasis took them in hand, he saw that all of them depicted similar, two-faced figures.

When he looked back at Gumina, he saw that she had resumed painting again.

“…Stop it! Stop painting, Gumina!”

Sateriasis took the canvas from her, and threw it into the fireplace.

“Oh…I was still in the middle of painting that…”

The look in Gumina’s eyes as she said that, gazing at the fireplace, was deranged.

Why?

Why had she become like this?

Was it because he’d too firmly applied the spell over and over to make her forget that bastard…Cherubim?

–Have I broken Gumina? ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 5).

Taking all that aside...do you know what is the biggest irony in all the story?

It was that without the attempt at kidnapping and brainwashing them, some girls could have genuinely loved him.

Consider Lukana...

“No…lord Venomania. I am not crying because I’m afraid. It’s because if you were a normal person…If we had met normally, then I am sure, I would have loved–” ("lunacy of duke venomania", chapter 6, scene 5)...

Also Lilien was genuinely charmed initially in the manga...

...and last but not least, Gumina who actually loved him despite his appearance.

What I sought wasn’t your face

but the real you as you were

but hey, neither you nor I

was able to realize that (the portrait glassred drew).

So...this is it. Those are the reasons why I like this character, and don't come at me saying I support him or anything, I don't, I also find it difficult to genuinely believe there could be anyone in the planet that could say: "oh yes, Sateriasis did well". It's obvious he didn't do well and didn't even achieve what he tried to obtain.

I just think it's a very well written character with a lot of tragic value and depth.

#evillious chronicles #evillious #sateriasis venomania #cherubim venomania #maylis #gumina glassred #gumina #lukana #lukana octo #lilien turner #lolan eve

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Hi........if you don't mind me asking, who are your favorite romantic relationship's couples in books/ manga/ anime/movies/tv series (canon or non-canon)? Sorry if you've answered this question before......Thanks....

Hi, sorry for not answering sooner.

I'll start with my favorite Canon couples

Wei Wuxian x Lan Wangji (MDZS)

MXTX invented romance when she wrote SVSSS, and perfected it when writing MDZS. The fact that WWX is my favorite character ever helps too. They are a perfect couple, I love them. Love them with their kids. Give them all the kids.

Luo Binghe x Shen Qingqiu/Shen Yuan

Are they problematic? Yes. But it's not like MXTX didn't notice some things LBH did were kinda messes up. It's a flawed and interesting relationship, but they truly care about each other so much. LBH is my second SVSSS character, and that "I hate myself for not being able to get anybody to stay" line always get me. And that Q&A extra is perfect, an underrated gem. I'll write a post about it someday.

Tianlang-Jun x Su Xiyan (SVSSS)

My third and fourth favorite characters from SVSSS. We didn't have much of them, but what we had was great. An ambicious, cold and ruthless human woman and a carefree, romantic and kind of naive Demon Emperor, how can someone not love it? The Demon Emperor acting as the classic, steryotipical, romantic young donzel, and the human acting as a Young heir from a rich family. She takes him to plays, buya gifts and essencially act as his sugar mommy. Love this dinamic. Also the teasing between them. Not to mention all the angst.

Michaela x Clarith (Evillious Chronicles)

The sad tree lesbians. The most wholesome relationship in EC. Do I need to say something else?

Amy Santiago x Jake Peralta (Brooklyn 99)

Yes, I'm aware of the problema of this show, but I still live their relationship. What's worthy to point out is the fact that I didn't ship until they actually got together. There wasnt anything special before, seemed really cliche that they would get together. But I love their dynamic when they're already together. Mostly because I was afraid it would fall into that trap where the writers doesn't know what to do with the couple and how to keep the story interesting, so.they start to include unnecessary love triangles, cheating, drama, and so on. Avoiding this made Peraltiago really refreshing

Zazzalil x Jemilla (Firebringer)

Rivals to lovers. My first Canon gay rivals to lovers. And both of them had valid points of view that seemed opposite, but actually needed each other to be complete

Lelouch x Shirley (Code Geass)

Yes, from all the girls who are romantic interests for Lelouch, I ship him with the most normal one. But It just gave me the vibe that Lelouch wanted to be with her. The tragedy is that he coudn't, even if she didn't die. She was part of a "normal" life that Lelouch had to gave up of in order to achieve his goals.

Now, for my fanon favorite ships

Gai x Kakashi (Naruto)

I talked about my love for Rivals to Lovers. But what about Rivals AND Lovers. Gai got close to Kakashi after Kakashi lost everyone he had loved, took him from that state of loneliness. And they were showed together at chapter 700, showing they remained close and that their relationship is important.

Sal x Larry (Sally Face)

Their friendship was precious and perfect. And, in my defense, they were not step brothers when I started shipping it. And I completly missed the HenryxLisa happening in the backround when I first played.

Sal x Travis (Sally Face)

I know, I know, the "homophobic bully is actually gay" is a cliche by now, and a problematic one. But there's some merit to the Idea of a gay teen being raised in a conservative family and being emotionally damaged for that. It's a thing that happen. Assuming that every homophobe is secretly gay is wrong and takes away the blame of the people opressing us, but internalized homophobia exist. And Travis was just a teen. Also, I'm soft to the Idea of Travis falling in love with someone who's kind, rather than someone who's atractive. I think a lot about that note he wrote.

Zuko x Sokka (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

I can't really explain, but I love this concept so much

Cassandra Cain x Stephanie Brown (DC comics)

My girls. I love them so much. Every scene of them together is a treasure. Their personalities match so well. Also, batfam is the best part of DC, and I won't hear any argument saying otherwise

Lapis Lazuli x Peridot (Steven Universe)

I loved their relationship living together,they were so cute.

Bruno Zero x Gallerian Marlon (Evillious Chronicles)

I love them and I love them together. Bruno is underrated and Gallerian is my favorite from the seven sinners.

Lukana x Lilien x Rajih

They are in a Poly relationship and I'll die on this hill. I love the three of them traveling together trough the world and raising a child.

Xue Yang x Xiao Xingchen (MDZS)

Another messed up ship, but I can't help being captivated. XY feel for the first person who showed him kindness and that gives me feelings. There's Also this line from A-Qing

“They used to often night-hunt walking corpses, sometime in the past. Now it’s usually ghosts, animals that behave weirdly, and so on.”

XY did horrible things, I can't find the words to describe how twisted it was how he tricked XXC into killing inoccent people. But this line from A-Qing implies he stopped. On his own. That doesn't take his blame away, but it's worthy noticing. He stopped, he showed no signal that he would have told XXC the truth If SL had not showed up and A-Qing found out the truth. Even after killing SL, he seemed to have the intention to come

back to his pacific life, only when It was all already falling apart he told XXC the truth, but only after trying to get XXC to sympatize with him.

Liu Qingge x Original Shen Qingqiu/Shen Jiu

Rivals to lovers is great. All the misunderstandings that tainted their relationship. LQG judged quickly and SJ refused to fucking explain himself even when he really should. LQG saw the world in black and white, and SJ was too gray. LQG was absolutely loyal. Once someone has his loyalty, he would fight the most poweful being alive for that person. He would fight over and over, despite knowing the result. He would start a war with one of four great sects. And I'm sure there's nothing SJ would value more in a partner than someone who would never abandon him.

Original Luo Binghe x Original Shen Qingqiu/Shen Jiu (SVSSS)

I said in previous posts that I believe Bingge loved SJ and that they were originally meant to get together, before Airplane shifted the genre for money. But that's for it's own post. SJ is my favorite SVSSS character. And this ship has some much potential, to dark fics, to angst, to fix-it fics, there's variety.

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