#miyadera shinguji

[thefox-i]

I love the idea of Miyadera not actually being evil bur rather just her and Kiyo being very strange and creepy twins.

[uraalice]

family doodle

[dune-spoon]

I want Kiyo to be happy, so here. Take an AU where Korekiyo had a good sister.

[soupkingo3o]

Lucy, Kiyo, and Rantaro! Kiyo’s sister is not pleased

[phonecall1]

Style test with miyadera also first post!

[lilyspider]

I've actually decided this art I did needs to be posted separately on here

[ushukthehollower]

Was super busy today so here's another slightly older one, sorry for the change in quality ^^. Very loosely inspired by this fanfic The horror of our love - squorsh (I read it after I started it and added some references by the end)

Plus a little extra that is much more inspired by the fic under the cut.

[blackquill-inchains]

couldn't decide which version i liked better so have all four

i personally like how the short hair makes him resemble the protag of shoujo tsubaki since korekiyos design is supposed to take inspiration from underground art like that

[plmdarling]

He's being strangled and his tongue is not out it's his crusty rusty twinky lips (He'd be into that stuff too that's CRAZY) (HE DIED THINKING HIS SISTER LOVED HIM ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️)

[danggirlronpa]

Hey mind telling me what the story behind Kiyo’s sister is? I’m kind of clueless and only heard one story of the whole thing😅

This got decently long, so I've put it under a cut. I'll add it to the FAQ tomorrow as well, since it's come up a few times!

I will also request that this post not be reblogged to hate blogs or blogs specifically dedicated to "bad" or "disliked" content. As someone who has been harassed as a result of content being circulated in those circles, it makes me very panicked and anxious to see my work on similar blogs. If you do so, I will need to block you for my own mental stability.

In V3 chapter three, Korekiyo admits to mass murder and takes on the guise of his sister to do so. As a result of being nearly beaten to death at one point, Korekiyo created a tulpa of his dead sister (who we'll call by her popular fan name, Miyadera, from here on). He believed Miyadera wanted him to murder 100 girls, and claimed that they were once lovers.

In general, fans seem to take Korekiyo's claims at face value. Which is...weird, considering how obviously the whole thing is a "mentally ill delusional sexually deviant serial killer" trope played completely straight. And that his worldview includes things like "I should kill people so my dead sister has friends." But let's set that aside, and say that, for the sake of explaining the popular fandom viewpoint, Korekiyo is a reliable narrator.

So in chapter 3, when he is on the brink of being cornered, Korekiyo begins to switch between his own identity and the identity of his sister's tulpa. These are the only potential looks we have into Miyadera's personality. To give you the gist, here are all of the quotes while Korekiyo takes on his sister's guise that are listed on the Wiki.

(Please note that the "Apologize" is directed at another student who challenges Korekiyo.)

I'm going to be honest. I have reread this a LOT trying to figure out what everyone else is apparently seeing here that I am not. At worst, this reads to me as a slightly stern etiquette teacher. But the popular fandom perception is that this dialogue implies that Miyadera was manipulating and abusing Korekiyo. I could not honestly tell you WHY people believe this, but they do.

And people ran with that. They ran with that so hard. Every sin Korekiyo commits is pinned down as being Miyadera's fault, and Korekiyo is absolved of his crimes as a result of being an abuse victim. It's similar to the effect you often see in the way people discuss Junko and Mukuro, except that Mukuro does not invoke nearly as much sympathy on a larger level, even though Junko's mockery and subsequent murder of her sister are explicit canon.

Now, to be clear: I don't buy into this. I think this is an extremely generous reading of Korekiyo's character, and that it removed his agency and the horror of his crimes to make him more sympathetic (particularly for shipping purposes - if you glance through the Miyadera tag, you see a LOT of Korekiyo/Rantaro fics with Miyadera as the evil abuser Rantaro must rescue Korekiyo from). I also think that people give too much credit to the canonicity of Miyadera's "possession" when it isn't clear, even in the universe of the game itself, whether Miyadera is actually a tulpa or if it's an identity that resulted from Korekiyo's trauma, like Syo/Jack.

But on its own, I don't care about it THAT much. People have headcanons I disagree with all the time. I don't really like a lot of people's thoughts about Nagito's backstory, either, but I don't think about it very often, and I certainly don't care enough to get mad about it. The problem is...

People are very, VERY violent about Miyadera.

I'm going to ask you to reread the quotes from Miyadera as a reminder of literally everything we know about her personality. And then I'll ask you to read this post.

This...is, in fact, despite all odds, the predominate opinion on Miyadera. If you go into her character tags, there are an endless number of posts like these, daydreaming about doing violence on her person, murdering her, torturing her, etc.

As a Grandparent (25, the age of spinsterhood), this sets off some alarm bells. This is how people used to treat female characters who got in the way of their favorite ships, like Kairi from Kingdom Hearts. Now, that is popularly understood to have been a result of misogyny. It is horrifying to see that it has survived.

Fantasizing about committing excessive violence against a woman...is misogyny. Making up crimes a woman did not canonically commit as an excuse to justify fantasizing about violence against her is misogyny. It is one thing to dislike a character based on headcanons. It is a totally separate matter to participate in and encourage this level of vitrol solely to make a male character more sympathetic.

To clarify: I do not think that misogyny is the sole reason for this interpretation. By nature, Danganronpa appeals to teenagers, who tend to fall into this type of fandom-wide trap more easily. But it is, in fact, more concerning to normalize this sort of thought process among teens and young people. And so I am very defensive of Miyadera's actual character as a result.

[thefox-i]

Hm? 🤔🤔 must've been a pretty big snake???? 🤨

[uraalice]

sisters with dubious existences potentially created by a blue haired lesbian

[pechebeche]

please dump all ur miyadera thoughts.. everybody is so mean to her :(

THEY ARE SO MEAN!! EVERYONE IS SO MEAN TO HER AND FOR WHAT. KILLING A MASS MURDERER?? GOOD FOR HER

miyadera's fandom treatment infuriates me for so many reasons. redirecting vitrolic hatred for a mans actions to a woman HE BLAMED as a scapegoat after her death by ALSO scapegoating her! takes away korekiyo's agency in his crimes and refusing to interrogate his character on a deeper level so he can remain an ~uwu sad boy~! depending on how you view the situation, projecting an entire personality on a woman with either no lines or whose only lines are calming her brother down from a homicidal rage, SOLELY TO HATE HER!!

but the thing that infuriates me the most is the comparison between how the fandom treats miyadera and how the fandom treats kanon nakajima. you'd THINK, if the problem was that this fandom hates the people in the upper power dynamic in a horrifying incest trope, that people would also be critical of leon, who intentionally manipulated and lead kanon on and making her totally reliant on him, despite not even reciprocating her affection. SURELY, if we can excuse Korekiyo committing nearly 100 murders due to abuse, we can excuse Kanon's stalking, right? it's not good, obviously. but i would argue 90+ murders is INDISPUTABLY worse.

but EVERYONE hates Kanon. and NO ONE hates leon. kanon takes all the blame. and miyadera takes all the blame. in a relationship people don't like, it's seemingly ALWAYS the woman's fault - despite any and all evidence to the contrary. and that just well and truly pisses me off.

[phantom-writing-vibes]

Korekiyo and miyadera headcanons but they aren't headcanons they're what they're like in headspace

• Korekiyo is pan

• Miyadera enjoys pink lipstick (just slightly less than red)

• Kokichi tries to scare korekiyo and fails every time

• korekiyo has a flat affect (autism vibes) but can mask it somewhat well infront of most people (even though he doesn't really have to because his mask hides most of his face anyways)

• miyadera Is amazing at eyeliner

• korekiyo is good at every subject- except math, he sucks at math

• miyadera is good at cleaning- not cooking- please God never let her in your kitchen

[2stregafangirl]

Here’s Miyadera Shinguji’s design in a AU where she’s in V3 as a tangible character and is the ultimate historian and becomes the protagonist after Tsumugi kills Shuichi with the shot-put ball as Kaede discovers Shuichi’s corpse she takes her own life with a knife to the throat as Tsumugi is then caught for her crimes and executed, leaving Miyadera to become the new protag with Korekiyo as her support character and Maki as her rival character, ( Kiibo x Miyadera is a ship here) Angie murders Tenko and Rantaro in chapter 3, and the mastermind is uncertain.. please do not post Miyadera hate here.

Survivors: Miyadera Korekiyo Himiko Maki Kiibo ( Miu made an extra Kiibo body so Kiibo could transfer there if his body was destroyed)

Mastermind: Kaito

[lilyspider]

Genuine question, why do people associate the whole "Come on, apologize" line from the Miyadera tulpa to be her telling Korekiyo to apologize?

In fan content where she is portrayed as the abuser, it's always almost associated with how she manipulated him, etc etc.

In the actual context of this scene, she's telling Shuichi to apologize because his accusations made Korekiyo upset. He was getting so upset and unraveled by the truth about how he murdered Angie coming out so the tulpa was there to comfort him.

I feel like interpreting her behavior in this scene to make it somehow, manipulative is missing the entire point. The final sections of the trial show Korekiyo needing this reassurance to continue his arguments. With how pervasive this misunderstanding is, it genuinely feels like these these lines are taken out of context.

People who believe Miyadera is the only abusive or manipulative sibling between the two of them really just ignore things in canon or actually lie about the text to fit the narrative about her they've already settled on.