#mrs. thorpe

[bethanydelleman]

Northanger Abbey Readthrough, Ch 4

Catherine is fully prepared to meet Mr. Tilney again but he is nowhere to be found! Disaster!

However, good is on the horizon, Mrs. Allen finally finds a friend, Mrs. Thorpe, an old schoolfellow. Austen throws in a great joke:

Their joy on this meeting was very great, as well it might, since they had been contented to know nothing of each other for the last fifteen years.

Austen brings up this again in Mansfield Park, where for all her sisterly love, Mrs. Norris will not put herself in any expense to see her sister:

It had, in fact, occurred to her, that though taken to Portsmouth for nothing, it would be hardly possible for her to avoid paying her own expenses back again. So her poor dear sister Price was left to all the disappointment of her missing such an opportunity, and another twenty years’ absence, perhaps, begun. (Ch 37)

It is such a true thing, a sad thing, that we claim to love people and yet are content to never see them... (Or even write) This is clearly performative friendship, but it happens with real ones too.

I love the "friendship" between Mrs. Allen and Mrs. Thorpe because it is so true to life, they both talk about themselves and really don't listen to the other:

they proceeded to make inquiries and give intelligence as to their families, sisters, and cousins, talking both together, far more ready to give than to receive information, and each hearing very little of what the other said.

Also, Mrs. Allen unable to brag about children contents herself by knowing she has more handsome lace!

So I have heard theories that this whole meeting was planned by the Thorpes, but honestly, the Thorpes are not that good at planning. Also, the childhood acquaintance is real. It seems likely to me that the Thorpes were already going to Bath to husband hunt and John Thorpe planned to bring James, but everything else was a "happy" coincidence.

We meet the three Thorpe sisters:

Her eldest daughter had great personal beauty, and the younger ones, by pretending to be as handsome as their sister, imitating her air, and dressing in the same style, did very well.

This comes much later, but the younger Thorpe sisters are basically clones of Isabella. We hear them talk and it's identical to Isabella. I cannot imagine spending time with this family! I would explode.

Miss Thorpe, however, being four years older than Miss Morland, and at least four years better informed, had a very decided advantage in discussing such points; she could compare the balls of Bath with those of Tunbridge, its fashions with the fashions of London; could rectify the opinions of her new friend in many articles of tasteful attire; could discover a flirtation between any gentleman and lady who only smiled on each other; and point out a quiz through the thickness of a crowd.

Quiz does not mean "a short test" until the 1850s. The word quiz is used a lot in Northanger Abbey and it's current meaning is, "odd person, person or thing deemed ridiculous".

This passage reminds me a lot of a section from Austen's Love and Freindship:

Isabel had seen the World. She had passed 2 Years at one of the first Boarding-schools in London; had spent a fortnight in Bath and had supped one night in Southampton. “Beware my Laura (she would often say) Beware of the insipid Vanities and idle Dissipations of the Metropolis of England; Beware of the unmeaning Luxuries of Bath and of the stinking fish of Southampton.”

In both passages, I believe we are meant to understand that the informant is not actually that informed, they just look worldly to our poor naive heroine.

This passage is a jab at the novel style of the era:

This brief account of the family is intended to supersede the necessity of a long and minute detail from Mrs. Thorpe herself, of her past adventures and sufferings, which might otherwise be expected to occupy the three or four following chapters; in which the worthlessness of lords and attorneys might be set forth, and conversations, which had passed twenty years before, be minutely repeated.

I didn't really understand the reference until I read Belinda by Maria Edgeworth, wherein a character gave a 36 PAGE history of herself. It was very strange to read and not very natural. So good on Austen for realizing that style was terrible.

Also, this much loved quote is so sarcastic:

Catherine was delighted with this extension of her Bath acquaintance, and almost forgot Mr. Tilney while she talked to Miss Thorpe. Friendship is certainly the finest balm for the pangs of disappointed love.

Ah yes, her disappointed love of not seeing the guy she danced with for one evening! And her friendship of about 10 minutes.

[bennetsbonnet]

Before I ever picked up a Jane Austen novel, I had the misguided impression that she was some boring, sedate and formal author whose works would be impossible to relate to because they were written so long ago.

What a treat to discover how absolutely wrong I was! To find out how utterly hilarious her works are and how real her characters still feel, even after so much time has passed and how little our world resembles the one that she lived in.

I just started reading Northanger Abbey again and the absolute subtlety and hilarity of the way she describes characters struck me again:

'Mrs Allen was one of that numerous class of females, whose society can raise no other emotion than surprise at there being any men in the world who could like them well enough, to marry them. She had neither beauty, genius, accomplishment, nor manner.'

Yeah, the language is a touch formal and you can tell it was written over two centuries ago but... I think we've all encountered a Mrs Allen or two in our time!

[besotted-with-austen]

Janeuary 16th: Gossip

“Ooooh, I have heard you and X have an understanding!” Jane Austen edition:

It’s not true! (Regretful): Elizabeth Bennet

It’s not true! (Horrified) Fanny Price, Anne Elliot

It’s not true! (What is even happening): Catherine Morland, Elinor Dashwood

[creepy-kooky-mysterious-spooky]

Parallels between Wednesday S1 and Monster High: The Movie:

Schools for Monsters

Werewolf Girl, who is labeled as a Lesbian by Fans (However, Clawdeen actually is one)

Werewolf Girl is interested in a Gorgon. (Clawdeen is Comphet)

Gorgon gets turned into Stone.

Cute Teacher remove their Glasses after they are revealed to be the Villain.

Also: The Backstory of the School involves Hydes getting kicked out of the School. (The Monster High banned their Hyde, because he was half-human)

[darcyolsson]

ofc it's a little bit funny that eric bogosian posted literally 54 tiktoks about himself/daniel on his instagram but also like. i get it. i feel like people sometimes don't really realize how special it is for a show to actually have a fandom behind it, like even if you're lucky enough to be in a project that does exceptionally well in terms of viewership that STILL hardly ever means people are constantly discussing, speculating, making art, etc. for it. compared to the amount of creative projects that exist, fandom is rare! and to have a fanbase like that pretty much for the first time ever in your 40 year career must be so fascinating and incredible, to have a near-infinite stream of posts available from tens of thousands of people who love your work as much as you do. I GET IT!

[romancedream]

#xavierthorpe will always be Wednesday's true love 🖤

Her #gomezaddams ❤️‍🔥

Her #mrdarcy

The passion and fire in her life...🔥

We'll never forget the way he looked at her or the art that he brought to life for her 🖼🎭

And I would like to believe that she met him somewhere after Nevermore and they both had the happy life that they deserve 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨

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Guys follow @percy and his fans...

Follow me too 😄🤭 and support us for more #wavier and #winterspringsummerorfall Content...

I'll also post what I can about his other films like #myoldass 🩷

And I hope all my fanfic writers would continue their good work 😭

This is only the beginning for this fandom so don't give up on us 🫶

[hotjaneaustenmenpoll]

[rose-grimm-spirit-does-dumb-shit]

Banana.

[bad-at-names-and-faces]

Stormy Night

@flufftober day 23, "Stormy night" with my Northanger Abbey cruise ship AU.

Catherine looked out at the port from the window of the restaurant and sighed.  It had been a stormy night the night before, and this morning it was still raining.  

“This doesn’t look like a good day for sightseeing,” she sighed. 

“No, I’m afraid not,” Mrs. Allan agreed. 

“Everyone is eating breakfast inside, too, so it’s difficult to find anywhere to sit.”

Catherine looked around, and saw her friend Isabeella’s brother, who unfortunately saw her. Isabella was just returning with some coffee at the same moment.

“Catherine! We have one seat left!” 

“You should join them, Catherine,” Mrs. Allen insisted.

[bethanydelleman]

Northanger Abbey Readthrough, Ch 5

Mr. Tilney is still missing! He is not to be found at the theatre, the pump room, or out of doors. However, according to the narrator, this absence is very clever of him:

This sort of mysteriousness, which is always so becoming in a hero, threw a fresh grace in Catherine’s imagination around his person and manners, and increased her anxiety to know more of him.

Also, poor Isbella keeps dropping hints about James, She liked him the better for being a clergyman, “for she must confess herself very partial to the profession”; and something like a sigh escaped her as she said it but Catherine has no idea what she is hinting at! The fact that Isabella wants "delicate raillery" reminds me of Anne Steele from Sense & Sensibility:

Miss Steele wanted only to be teazed about Dr. Davies to be perfectly happy. (Ch 34)

Mrs. Allen is highly gratified to find friends that are shabbier than her in dress! But she and Mrs. Thorpe hardly ever actually talk to each other, in what they called conversation, but in which there was scarcely ever any exchange of opinion, and not often any resemblance of subject, for Mrs. Thorpe talked chiefly of her children, and Mrs. Allen of her gowns. If you want an example of Austen actually writing one of these conversations down, check out the "bragversaion" between Mrs. Elton and Mr. Weston, where he only really talks of Frank and she brings literally every statement back to Maple Grove. (Emma, Ch 18, V2)

Catherine and Isabella rapidly become friends, perhaps a bit too rapidly. Their quick friendship will be contrasted later with the more properly and far slower intimacy between Catherine and Eleanor Tilney. However, I have definitely had vacation friendships like this, where due to the amount of time together and the knowledge that you will soon go home, the friendship moves very fast.

They called each other by their Christian name, were always arm in arm when they walked, pinned up each other’s train for the dance, and were not to be divided in the set; and if a rainy morning deprived them of other enjoyments, they were still resolute in meeting in defiance of wet and dirt, and shut themselves up, to read novels together.

And then we come to the famous rant against the degradation of novels! And you know what? Austen has a good point. Why not have heroines of freaking novels read novels? What a strange brand of doublethink! A heroine must not read novels whilst existing within them. Funny to think that many of the novels that Catherine might have been reading would be considered classic literature now, though many more have faded out of recognition.

Austen also rightly points out that people are far more likely to actually read novels than "edifying" materials such as poetry or history, something which will come up later on the country walk. This makes me think of the scorn towards YA novels and comic books/novels today, which I still see way too much of. Let kids read what they like! A general love of reading will get anyone far in life.

(To be honest, I still kind of prefer fantasy YA because way too much of the adult stuff features rape/non-con/sexual assault and that's far less likely in YA)

But yeah, you just tell me the last time someone came up to you gushing about a History of England, it's not those books that capture our imagination and make us feel, it's novels. There is a reason I'm still reading novels from 200 years ago today and little else, and it's not just because factual information is far out of date!

Only a novel indeed!

[piece-of-the-pie-if]

DIRECTORY!🍑

Tag Breakdown and Answered Asks List

Main Tags:

Blog tag──piece of the pie if Secondary tag──potp if

LI Tags:

Dylan Quinn──dylan quinn Shayne Walker──shay walker Kinsley Grace-Cameron──kinsley grace-cameron Jaxon/Jasmin Montgomery──j montgomery Theodore/Theodora/Theo Wesley──theo wesley

Poly Tags:

Dylan&&&Kinsley──kinslan poly Shayne&&&Jaxon/Jasmin──jayne poly

Main Pieces Tags:

Chris/Chloe/Charlie West──c west Valory/Vinny Williamson──v williamson Easton/Estelle Bharti──prof bharti Nolan Thorp──mr thorp

Misc Tags:

MC tag──peach MCs family tag──peach's pie Player MC tag──homemade peach pie +Secondary Player MC Tag──peach: [name]

Answered Asks:

About The Game──general About The Cast──discussions Self Reblogs──follow up All LI/ROs──all ros

NSFW Asks──not safe to bake +NSFW Asks Disclaimer [ here ]

More about the setting [ here ]

Where in NYC? [ here ]

MC and Siblings [ here ]

MC and the 'Crush' on Dylan [ here ]

'Queer MC' discussion [ here ] [ here ]

'Straight MC' discussion [ here ]

MC's family [ here ]

MCs family bakery [ here ]

MCs first day rumours [ here ]

MC is called Peach for why? [ here ]

What subjects to Professor Bharti and Mr Thorp teach? [ here ]

MC personality options? [ here ] [ here ] [ here ]

Poly routes discussion [ here ]

Difference between the poly and love triangle routes [ here ]

ALL ROs

ROs visual appearance [ here ]

ROs in one word [ here ]

Routes in one word [ here ]

For your anniversary, the ROs sing a song they wrote for you at a restaurant. [ here ]

ROs as YA TV shows [ here ]

RO Heights [ here ]

RO family backgrounds [ here ]

ROs and horror movie marathons [ here ]

ROs and romcoms [ here ]

ROs favourite animal? [ here ]

Crushing stage ROs see MC with a hickey (long) [ here ]

It wasn't a hickey after all [ here ]

How jealous do the ROs get? [ here ]

ROs reaction to a dense/oblivious MC [ here ]

ROs play DND (ft C) [ here ]

ROs love languages [ here ]

ROs favourite desert other than pie (ft C) [ here ]

ROs and video games [ here ]

ROs favourite beverages [ here ]

ROs idea time of date [ here ]

ROs ideal date [ here ]

INDIVIDUAL ROs

DYLAN

(prompt series 1) PLAY──

MCs potential reaction to Dylan [ here ]

Dylan and Art [ here ]

Dyl's thoughts about MC? [ here ]

KINSLEY

(prompt series 1) HAIR──tucking a strand of hair gently and securely back behind their ear, letting their touch linger afterwards. [ here ]

(prompt series 1) CLOSE──standing so remarkably close your gaze can't help but linger on their lips when you scan their body. [ here ]

(prompt series 1) HUSH──standing close and hiding, reaching up and pressing a finger to their lips to keep quiet. TUG──tugging them close to your side by their waist. [ here ]

(prompt series 1) WAIT──catching their wrist, preventing them from leaving. [ here ]

Kinsley and Influence at School [ here ] discussion [ here ]

Kinsley's slow burn (ft J) [ here ]

Kinsley's enemies to lovers route is toxic? Discussion [ here ]

SHAYNE

Jayne poly route dynamics [ here ]

JAXON/JASMIN

(prompt series 1) DANCE──when alone, you spontaneously dancing with each other. [ here ]

(prompt series 1) WRAP──reaching back, taking your wrists, and gently pulls your arms around their waist. [ here ]

J's slow burn (ft kinsley) [ here ]

Jayne poly route dynamics [ here ]

THEO

Concerning Theo's Distance [ here ]

Facts about Theo! [ here ]

Theo and crushing in MC [ here ]

OTHERs

CHLOE/CHARLIE/CHRIS

Facts about C? [ here ]

C's DND character (ft the ROs) [ here ]

C's favourite desert (ft the ROs) [ here ]

VALORY/VINNY

Who is V? [ here ]

[hitchell-mope]

Ajax: I had an auntie emigrated to America. We never heard from her again. Not even a letter.

Xavier: was this the one that was on the titanic?

Ajax: yeah. We never heard from her again.

[pieshopbarber]

In 1983, Thorpe Park opened an attraction called “phantom fantasia”. This ambitious dark ride featured scenes from a variety of dark English legends and stories, including a scene past Sweeney Todd’s barbershop, and mrs. Lovett’s pie shop.

in 1993 the attraction closed, and became “wicked witches haunt” and burned down in 2000 during a fire in the park.

[fierce-little-miana]

I want to kill John Thorpe!

[romancedream]

Parallels by my friend : @edits.tikto.k 😚🥰

Xavier is not the first love interest created for Wednesday, but he is the best ☺️

[hotjaneaustenmenpoll]

I like John Thorpe

So leave me alone and let me like things

Look I respect all of the 1.9% and I can dredge up some appreciation for John Thorpe's chaotic ways- outright lying about his "love rival" standing up Catherine so he could have a nice day out may not have been wise but it was bold I will give him that

Mr Bingley (1995) Vs John Thorpe (2007)