#nimona movie spoilers

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Welp, They’ve Done It Again

I know people already pointed this out the “sword pointing” parallel before, but this isn’t talked about enough!

[wamo]

comic vs movie Ambrosius is the literal definition of twink death

[mayhaps-a-blog]

Still thinking about Nimona and about class (and caste) and how the Director really would rather burn her entire society to the ground than let a commoner rise up. Even before there was a monster on the field, she killed the Queen! The Queen! Who we know little about, other than that she supported commoners becoming knights, and that was all it took!

Like, that was the Queen! Anyone who had such strong beliefs in the monarchical system, in the noble/commoner class/caste system, should have seen the Queen as the top. She’s the leader of the government! She’s a NOBLE! But even so, the threat of one common-born knight - one commoner with a smidge of power in the system - was enough for the Director. Who didn’t just target Ballister - no, she killed the Queen, destabilized her own government, the very system she was trying to protect! To defend her “traditional” values!

One would assume that, traditionally, Gloreth also wouldn’t want anyone murdering the Queen. But no, keeping commoners out of the Institute is more important than such little concerns as treason.

[memoryshard]

Do y'all think that the Director was very willing to kill Ambrosius, not at all because he questioned her, but because he loved and accepted Bal? He's the descendent of GLORETH herself! She's nearly a god-like figure to them.

But instead of lying, when she had the chance to kill him, after going off about "cracks in the wall", she takes it. She viewed Ambrosius' love as another potential crack.

[rainbowskullsandcoffee]

[Nimona spoilers]

so imagine after finding out Nimona is still well and kicking, ballister brings them back home to ambrosius

ambrosius: *hears door opens* welco-

ballister: we have a kid now

nimona: hi >:)

[ilovedthestars]

ok wait i just realized that nimona revealing herself as a shapeshifter to ballister also involves her barging out of a literal closet. did anyone else notice this.

[scribe-cas]

Okay one thing that I have not seen anyone talk about in reference to the Nimona movie (which is unfortunate, because I think that this is absolutely hilarious)

At the beginning of the movie, Ballister says “that’s not for little girls” when Nimona picks up a blowtorch, and in response, Nimona replies,

“ ‘Little girls’?

Okay, how old do you think I am?”

To which he responds,

“I don’t know. Ten?

Alright, help me out. More or less than ten?”

Now.

This could absolutely be taken as just teenage sass-

Until you get to the end of the movie.

And it is revealed that she is, in fact, Gloreth’s monster.

She is thousands of years old.

And I am in absolute fucking hysterics

Over the thought of being what could be considered a god, with the range of powers she’s presented, and the incredible mass of years she’s lived-

And having some dude look her in the eyes.

And ask if she’s a ten year old.

“How old do you think I am” reads so differently when you’re rewatching the movie because you get to watch her scoff at this knight who she isn’t yet friends with, and clearly has no idea what he’s getting into

And she thinks it’s hilarious.

Anyways i love her i love this movie thanks bye

[fallloverfic]

Early concept art for the "Nimona" movie by Jun Lee

I can't get over that long-haired Ambrosius was planned at least at some point in the movie's creation. He's so beautiful.

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Spoiler for the movie and I guess the comic below the cut

And a sword duel rather than the joust where seemingly Ballister's sword is replaced and explodes? Maybe the Director still did the sword switch in this version, even this early.

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[pokemonkatia]

Something I love about the scene featured in the new clip is just how much of Blackheart (graphic novel version) we can see in Ballister (movie version).

Like this?? This all Blackheart. The villainy. The annoyance. The scemes.

[quitefair]

so, about Ballister’s origin...

alright so i’m a huge, huge fan of the original nimona graphic novel. and i’m genuinely a fan of the movie too! it did make some significant changes, but overall told the story it wanted to tell, and pretty much summed up the themes of the novel itself! it was an enjoyable ride!

but!!! there was one bit of the story that didn’t quite sit right with me. and it took me a while to realise what that thing was. (i didn’t want to make a post ranting about it without properly processing what it was that made me dislike this, so i let it ruminate)

anyway, after seeing this post, everything fell into place.

instead of ballister being a commoner rising to become a knight...

what if he was born outside the wall instead? 

(major spoilers for the graphic novel and movie below)

so in the original comic, the knights of the institution were all orphans, including ballister and ambrosius. they grew up and trained together, and were both considered among the most skilled and prominent knights of the institution at the time. however, everything changed when they were pitted against each other in a jousting match. the director gave ambrosius a weaponised lance (similar to ballister’s sword in the movie). its weight threw ambrosius off balance and caused him to lose against ballister during the joust. in a fit of jealous rage over losing, he fires the lance at ballister, causing him to lose his right arm and ruining his chances of ever becoming a knight.

all of this is implied to have happened because the director wanted ambrosius to win the joust. perhaps because of the way he looked. white skin, blonde hair, all the ideal societal characteristics of a hero. nate mentions this in a recent article as well talking about the movie.

while ballister... well. he didn’t. and now he also doesn’t have an arm. it was also implied that the director didn’t like that ambrosius and ballister were close, didn’t like that her perfect hero had a weakness, probably thought that ballister was not good enough for her poster child, idk. so yeah, she killed two birds with one stone. (except in this version no queens were harmed lmao)

the way they translated this into the movie was... well. interesting.

so now, gloreth has a bigger role in all of this. which is cool! it ties in so well with nimona being gloreth’s beast, and the entire reason that the city and the institution exists in the first place. this was actually one of my favourite changes to the comics that they made for the movie!!!

but! what i didn’t like was that our boys were no longer orphans. ambrosius is now the descendant of gloreth? which is why he’s the poster boy of the institution? and the one with the weight of familial expectation on him? 

(okay i lied this kinda slaps but it wasn’t explored as much as i’d liked. anyway wouldn’t it have been great if this was a limited series instead of a movie? lmao im going off track.)

but the weirdest part for me, and something i still felt difficult to accept, was that ballister... was a commoner. a commoner that was chosen to join the institution and to become a knight.

and it’s a controversial decision?

youre telling me that in this sci-fantasy world of super monster cops, that the only way people that can become a monster cop, is through nepotism????

and consider this: most of the commercial stuff aimed at kids, teens etc (kwispy dragon for example) sends the message that maybe, just maybe, you, the commonnest of commoner children, could also rise up and be a super monster cop hero?

there’s also the fact that in our current day and age, the story of the underdog gets the most attention and press? wouldn’t the crowds be ecstatic over a kid from nowhere, rising up among the ranks to become one of the most promising potential knights in this institution?

so yeah i dont really understand why the general population have gripes against ballister becoming a knight (it’s shown at the beginning during the whole montage that there’s some people who aren’t vibing with it) douchebag knights maybe yeah. but i don’t see how the general public wouldn’t be anything but supportive, and would turn on him so fast.

unless.... he wasn’t from the city itself.

you only really hear about the wall partly through the film. you’re shown that the city grows and that there’s a wall built around it during the intro cinematic, but nothing is mentioned until quite significantly through the film. which is odd... considering how important it is to the story. gloreth built the wall to keep the monsters out. to keep us in and to keep them out. the propaganda of there only being monsters outside the wall, and only good and respectable citizens live within the city walls.

(how does the wall keep us free? the wall keeps out the enemy. and we build the wall to keep us free, that’s why we build the wall, we build the wall to keep us free.)

which would make a ballister that came in from outside the wall... well.

1. it would make the director’s statement of ‘cracks in the wall’ make more sense. in a literal sense, ballister couldve come into the city from a literal crack in the wall. which also ties into the metaphor of gloreth’s walls/propaganda cracking. and the fact that he’s now rising up to become a knight? corruption from the inside? it makes the director’s motivations hold more weight.

(also having the director be a descendant of gloreth rather than ambrosius would make more narrative sense but that’s a whole other post)

2. now the public would have more reason to not trust this guy. it’s easier to spread propaganda about him once he ‘kills the queen’. a monster infiltrating the ranks. and then he’s allied with a monster shapeshifter nimona?

3. the parallels between ballister and nimona??? would be even more prevalent??? both literal outsiders. hated by everybody for basically no reason other than that they’re different. and the fact that ballister accepts nimona when gloreth didn’t?

4. there’s also the fact that throughout the movie, the concept of the wall protecting the people from the monsters outside is questioned - are there really even monsters outside, when we’ve never seen them for ourselves? what if you guys are lying to us, what if youre WRONG? and ballister becoming a knight might’ve been a step in the right direction towards pushing against those stereotypes, but the director wasn’t having any of it.

so yeah, those are my thoughts. the movie is still insane though i rly love it. but a lad can dream about what could’ve been, yeah?

[wamo]

b-butches??

punk kid meets punk mom

[muppetfreak]

Nimona movie / graphic novel spoilers (consider yourself warned!)

I really loved the movie for what it was, we laughed a lot and even the kids enjoyed it a ton, but the problem with having read the graphic novel so many times over the years is that it's impossible not to compare. And I understand why they needed to soften Ambrosius' betrayal moment to make it more palatable to kids / shippers, but It took away so much of the complexity of their dynamic!

Brushing it off as his training instincts made their whole conflict too easily resolved and took away most of Ambrosius' moral ambiguity and arrogance. (Even if the end result was the same, there is a huge difference between him acting in the heat of the moment and it being premeditated because of jealousy. HUGE). Plus, instead of ending the story on this complicated and tentative note where they have to figure out how to rebuild what they had in the new world together (as it is in the graphic novel), it's all easily resolved with outside parties to blame and they are smooching by the epilogue.

And I guess it was what they needed to do to be able to sell the story with the rep they wanted and I respect that's a challenge to begin with (especially with the long complicated history of this film in particular), but watching fandom continually strip all the complexity out of characters and demand purity from their ships only to now watch a major studio do the same with this relationship that I loved for its complexity, it's hard not to see this as a change in a troubling, sanitized direction.

[fearidescent]

I think Nimona's depiction of suicidal ideation is something we need more of in kids' movies. Obviously not all or even most of them, but some. Because, let's be real, there are more suicidal kids than we want there to be.

If I may use myself as an example, my first suicide attempt was when I was 12, and I found myself wishing for child euthanasia to be legal at a younger (not much younger, but younger still) age than that. And I don't think I'm some freaky exception.

I do think kids should watch these movies with parents present, or at least be able to safely discuss them with parents later. I do think that watching a movie with a suicidal protagonist when you're suicidal yourself but unable to safely discuss it with anyone may be too much.

But we should not hide suicidal ideation from kids. Otherwise they will feel even worse if they develop those feelings themselves.

[flintoaster]

Nimona spoilers

I cant even

But

One thing I want to point out some more is another part of the obvious trans allegory, cuz I wasn't expecting her to actually try to kill herself! Trans suicides keep rising and as obvious as the allegory is, they went all out💀 obviously she's trans/genderfluid and that's unfortunately a reality for alot of us irl, but I'm glad they made the allegory so heavy-handed and even included that. Earlier in the movie she said that if she didn't shape-shift she'd "die" and thats because she wouldn't be "living" but also because she'd literally want to die and try to.

Just- this movie was so thorough and ajrkfkfk. Thorough with everyone's cognitive dissonance, with the allegory, and every step is calculated. I'm not some important media critic (yet hehehe) but if I was I'd be able to say way more cuz 😭

(Also no offense, I ADORE the mlm ship, but the trans allegory in this time of despair and how perfect it was... Mwah 👌)

[asafeplaceforus112]

Nimona!!!!

I am so fucking excited to watch nimona!!! I have been itching to watch this movie as soon as I watched the trailer!!!

Oooo I'm so excited I'm so excited!!!

"tonight's the night that we knight the knights!!!" I LOVE IT

awwweee noooo Ballister )))):

Oh no he worked so hard and loved her like a movie I bet and yet he's gonna get blamed for it )))):

"it's not what gloreth wanted" same energy as "it's not what god wanted"

Oh god I'm gonna be so sad when they fight )))): they're so in love 🥺 and they're gonna fight 🥺

"they're going to love you" LIKE I DO "like I do" SCREAMS

🖕 fuck you man

Awwweee they're in love oh I'm so sad for him ;-; I know he's gonna end up hated and I'm going to be so sad ;-;

He loves his extrovert ToT

So the queen was a "commy" as my dad calls it so she got assassinated by the corrupt elite?

OH MY GOD

HIS BIYFRIEND CUT HIS ARM OOFFFF

Oh my god

Nimona spelling it as "dumb" instead of "dum" is for some reason really important to me

He gives such stocky short vibes and I'd never noticed until now

I like that they're listening to the same song in the universe

"Did you get to keep the old one"

I am the manic pixie cryptid that is nimona

I like her piercing in her upper ear

Oh mate

So the director is the evil one that set it up right?

XD I love nimona

God I love nimona

"were still gonna break stuff dududududu du du" I love that

And it's so much better that the song follows like it

Oh and how yours not sure how if it's her eyes or the light that are red

NOOO NOT IN FRONT OF THE BOYFRIEND

He's so sad ))):

She's so cuuuuuttteeee

I love nimona

It's like the drawing!!!

"cold in here??" He he he he he

Poor dude got adopted by a cryptid

XD I love the lightning

XD how does he forget about the Shape shifting

Oh no they're going to use this as evidence against him

Oh fuck you sir she made breakfast tacos

"but I'm not a girl... I'm a shark!!! Chomp chomp"

"acting like common children" oh yeah she's evil

Bal is giving "don't be too gay" In public energy

XD oh my god "evil" bal is so funny I love

"I HOPE YOU LIKE FREESTYLE JAZZ" DTOP THATS SO FUNNY

We love a surveillance state

"this doesn't feel right? He hates free style jazz" STOP THATS SO FUNNY

THE GUIDANCE LADY IS ALSO A SHAPESHIFTER BUT SHES ACTUALLY EVIL

"alot of people aren't as accepting as me" aaaahhhh okay that hit different with the parents I have

XD I love nimona I love the lie

"oh shit my ex is here" vibes

"tiny whale" STTOOOPPPP

we know he's evil coz he's pressing the bell at the counter

XD I love this

Oh no xD

Awwwee nimona looks as if they're were his kid

Babe isn't feeling body stuff?

"I'm not people" "it does but I've been worse"

Awwwee he's looking after nimona

Genderfluid icon

"who'd protect todd"

I knew it (:<

Oh my god and that's why he tried to show him his phone

He he he he he

"they disarmed a weapon" why the fuck did he chop off a whole arm then?

I love that he didn't immediately become not brainwashed

Poor nimona

Awwwweee he feels bad

"arm chopping is not a love language!!!!" Oh my god ambrosius

Did her hair colour change from bright yellow to soft blonde?

AMBROSIUS

honestly bal is dumb for choosing that

HE THREW HER AT HUS BALLS

SHE WAS THE INE WHO BUT HUM

"KWISPY"

Wait are those parts of her that she's blowing everywhere?

Oh my god she did the metal thing pose she does

))): oh baby nimona

SHE STABBED AMBROSIUS

What was with that dramatic thing????

Isn't that like nimona kind of acting

XD the second death

How is there 47 mins left?

THEY JUST LEAVE HER

Nimonas pose when she leaves xD

XD nimonas the dick head who hates losing monopoly but I love her throughly

HE SAID HER THING "metal"

I need the book! Oh man!!!

Why are they dancing???? XD this was definitely in the novel the dancing

THEY STARTED A REBELLION???

She made a fake scroll

They're going to act like Nimona is the evil person that is framing the director aren't they???

I'm gonna fucking lose it if he doesn't back her up

NOOO

))): no emotional dick is that good

You've been set up ))):

))): oh god ))):

He feels so bad for his arm ))):

He thinks nimona set him up

Oh no fuck off

Oh nooo )):

fuck off tod

Fuck off bal

BAL

He instinctually did that

))):

There's a wishing well??? There's actually a wishing well?

Nimona has just always existed like this. The human race was just another race she had tried to assimilate into.... That's so sad

She had always thought that was normal and then she found a friend that accepted her oh no oh no oh no

Oh no coz they see a bear oh god the poor child has trauma flashbacks ))):

GLORETH

OH MY GOD

SO NIMONA REALLY IS THE "monster". And the story was made up to seem like a Gloreth was a hero

I like how you can hear nimonas voice in the mega form

I love that "let's throw some hearts and break some parts" I love that

Let's talk about how this never would have happened if she hadn't set up bal

Nimonas just in trauma brain, as we call it

There you go pretty, figuring out that what you're doing is bad

Nimona is going towards her friend thats all she's doing. She's just walking and getting hot so she bashes into stuff )):

Oh nimona )):

Nimona is trying to K*ll herself holy shit

Why the fuck is this not in the themes?

Oh good job Bal, I'm glad you stopped her in time holy shit

I feel like nimona alot. I feel stuck in this human form and like no-one else will understand me and just it's so lonely and I'm so glad that nimona has someone to care. For everyone else who doesn't have a system that they're in that can understand that feeling fuck man, I ahve no idea how you do it. You are so powerful and brave

"fire the cannons" FUCK YOU BIGOT

Good job knights

Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck

))): nimona better not have died

))): oh my god does she now have to regenerate and that's why you was gone for 1000s of years ))):

Oh my god is she actually dead

There's was nothing evil outside the wall ))):

Awwwee they kissed and they're in love and it's great

Different note doesn't the boyfriend in um the Disney have movie um journey something

Oh my god ))): she finally got accepted but now she sgone

She's gonna rock up or something dumb right? And it's going to be a fake out and I'm gonna cry my tits off

Oh no it's a fake out )):

XD SHES NOT DEAD

"hey boss".MY FACE TOOOOB

ND ;-; you barely got me with she ra but you got me with with his one.

Oh My god HE GOT RU PAUL???

I want to consume so much more if this universe

Oh my god nimona went from Godzilla like to mothra like!!!

Dnaicng shark my beloved

The names I love them

Every transmasc that's non binary that Ive met has been the same energy as the Otto with a snap back in the final credits /j /lh

Poor nimona )): Im so glad that she found her friend

Holy shit too many animators to count, but you guys did a fucking AMAZING JOB holy shit!!!!

Im going to watch nimona again after this so don't be surprised if you see me adding reblogs of little details that absolutely ruin my brain in the best of ways

The way that the animals just instinctively knew nimona was different from them really breaks my heart

The animation was so so so so lovely! You could just tell the team really put their heart and soul into this movie!!!

I don't know if the story was matching the book (I will soon though I'm ordering that baby) but it was really lovely to watch this movie!

It matched my expectations! I wish there was more! Honestly I think nimona would have been perfect as a mini series! Not because the pacing was bad!!! I just wished we could have had more time with these characters you know!!

There was careless whisper in this movie?

WAIT FOCUS okay so like I think It would have been amazing if we could have sat with the characters more you know? In just really sad that the sorry had to be so fast paced because of the constraints

Damn that's alot of babies

Yeeeeeesssss I love nimona

I like that there was a thing at the end but I would have liked if it had been at the start of the credits but also that's not the creators that's prolly a sucky Netflix thing

I loved this movie

I will in fact be worshipping this movie until I'm sick of it just like strange world

I LOVED strange world and now I've watched it so many times that I feel like a parent that's and to watch frozen a billion times

Anyways...

Take care everyone and anyone sees this post! You are loved! Please stay safe! This world sucks ass but there are good things to!

[fallloverfic]

Dr. Meredith Blitzmeyer in re: the "Nimona" movie

I've been looking at a lot of the concept art and development stuff for the Nimona movie and it's at once kind of amazing and sad to be sort of proven right by something. Spoilers for the movie below the cut.

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According to Louis Jones, "I was incredibly fortunate to be brought on to Nimona at the very beginning (back in late 2016). I was already a big fan of @gingerhazing ’s comic, and I got to spend 3+ years helping to shepherd and develop this character, under then director @posborne, alongside an outstanding team of artists at Blue Sky — I have a lot of love for this character, and despite the film’s complicated journey, I’m very happy to see her out in the world… . . Straying from the 2D tests (and exploring a different character). I believe this was the first performance test for Blitzmeyer — For years the scientist from the comic was a prominent character in the film, before eventually being written out much later (though she may still look familiar as her design/model was used for the Queen) — this was just a blocking pass, at the time wanting to explore an almost “Kramer-like” frantic energy, being so comfortable in her lab that she can effortlessly multitask and “dance” around as needed. This was a fun task. Shame she didn’t end up in the film (though the simplification was probably needed) there were some reeeaally cool things being explored around this character."

So Blitzmeyer was a prominent character for a chunk of the movie's development, but ultimately cut. I had the impression from seeing concept art for the "Silver Society", some organization that Nimona and Ballister were supposed to befriend, at least one of the shots of which features a character very similar to Blitzmeyer, that she was in some of the cut materials. It's cool to have confirmation that she was at least planned. Sad she got cut, though.

(Unrelatedly, it's fascinating that this is why Queen Valerin looks the way she does, but it doesn't seem to have been the only place they reused older concept art in some form, given Sir Thoddeus Sureblade's face seems to be a version of Ambrosius Goldenloin concept art).