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#obviously i'm criticizing the WRITERS who WROTE the FICTIONAL CHARACTER who DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST
lavenderpanic · 8 months
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Not the Peggy dickriders missing the point so hard they stumble their way into my conversation about how I don't like that Peggy "Nazi sympathizer" Carter has displaced other female characters and characters of color in favor of heteronormative, poorly written plots about characters that we left behind five years ago
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ashirisu · 9 months
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hey, everyone!
My name is Ley (pronounced like "Lee," she/they) and I'm a fiction writer/editor based in the PNW. I haven't done a proper writeblr intro in a while, so I figure the new year is a great time to reintroduce myself to the community!
— about me
An important thing to understand about me and the way I talk about writing is that this stuff is literally my entire life. Even outside of work, I don't think I have a single interest or hobby that doesn't relate back to storytelling in some capacity. I'm an avid media consumer and critic, and will hyperanalyze just about anything that catches my fancy for more than a minute.
I love science fiction and fantasy, and my goal as a writer is to take all the genres I loved growing up and create stories that are a little more diverse, inclusive, and queer.
— about the blog
I came to writeblr mostly to share my work, but also to find an active community where I can get excited with other writers and talk shop. Marketing is obviously a really important part of the publishing industry, but I get tired of having to filter every thought I have about my work and experiences through the lens of aesthetic micro-trends just to put it out in the world. Sometimes I just want to pop off about scenes I'm proud of, you know?
Above all else, I really just want to connect with more writers like myself, ones who got their start in fandom spaces and are working to take their writing from a hobby into a career. I see you, I am you, I love you, let's be friends!
You’ll definitely see me posting and reblogging a lot of stuff that isn’t necessarily related to writing, so be ready for that. My art exists in the context of my personality and the world as a whole, and I simply do not have it in me to maintain a whole separate blog for silly nonsense and memes. Just consider it a way to get to know the writer as well as the writing!
— about my writing
I write a lot, though most of it is disconnected nonsense. Flash fiction and short stories are where I really thrive as a writer. I don't tend to commit to long-form projects, but I have a few projects that I'll occasionally share details about!
I like to describe my style as "earnest and character-forward," which is a fancy way of saying that I like driven protagonists who think too much and are emotional to the point of it being a character flaw.
My goal is to share more of my original writing moving forward, so hopefully you'll get to see all of this for yourself. If I'm totally honest, though, you'll probably see more of me discussing my work than actually writing it.
— about my projects
Here are the things you'll most likely see me posting about:
Agnomen: A sci-fi retelling of Hamlet and Coriolanus, currently in its very preliminary stages. It is literally my Roman Empire, except it's set on a moon of a planet that I'm calling Jupiter as a placeholder (but please note that it isn't actually Jupiter, as Jupiter is a gas giant and therefore a scientifically impossible setting for large sections of the plot).
Alter Ego: A superhero fic in which not-so-mild-mannered reporter Drew Derrick fights for mutant rights and can't seem to get his act together when it comes to keeping the complicated parts of his life separate.
Untitled Fantasy Project: The very first project I ever wrote, and the piece I return to every so often when writing is feeling more like a slog than a fun hobby. I set a lot of one-offs in this world and follow a few key characters around without them having a real plot.
D&D: I write a lot about Baz, my Wild Magic Barbarian. He's a regency noble with a lot of problems, and I care about him very much. I also have various other settings and characters, but he's my most active PC at the moment and therefore gets the most attention.
Short Stories: Sometimes I write these, and sometimes I like them enough to share!
— tag directory
ley rambles: my (often wordy) opinions about things
ley writes: not necessarily my writing, but talking about my writing
my writing: stories, blurbs, and other content I've written
not my writing: reblogs and creative writing that I liked, shared, and sometimes commented on
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cartoonscientist · 1 year
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this has probably been touched on before but so much of fionna and cake ties into the theme of self-value and self care by making references to (what is traditionally viewed as female-centered) fan culture and specifically the debate around whether fanfiction should have “some basic level of quality” or whether it should be considered an unbridled form of self expression closer to art therapy than writing a professional novel (it obviously comes down on the side of the latter)
the theme of Simon not wanting to discuss his “old stuff” that he finds embarrassing and painful because he wrote it in a very bad place mentally, what he sees as mediocre, emotionally masturbatory wish fulfillment that says way too much about his psyche, although it’s shown that other people get a lot out of the Fionna and Cake series, suggesting that it’s a versatile work of fiction which readers can interpret to fit their own emotional needs even if it’s not exactly “high art”
or Scarab’s ultimately self-destructive obsession with wiping out what he considers a “mediocre” “abomination”, even though everyone around him is telling him to chill and let it go and focus on more important things because it doesn't really matter. for years, and even today, fandom has been plagued with (usually cishet male these days, but women used to make up a far larger portion of the snark/anti-fan community) fans who don't only dislike shipping and original characters, they actively seek out creators who do enjoy these things to harass them. or, I'm sure you've seen those people on twitter who get really mad about the fact that leaving long critical notes on ao3 fics (when not prompted or specifically requested not to) is widely considered Pretty Fucking Mean
both Simon and Scarab are basically being told by the narrative to take it easy, to not care so hard about like, the ontological definitions of "art" and "quality". Simon learns to value Fionna and her world, realizing that they have a life beyond the circumstances he believed he created them under. (but when he again tries to assume control, to sacrifice his own well-being for people he feels are more deserving of love than him, his space god girlfriend basically slaps him and says "you are so special and amazing on your own simon, you don't need to hurt yourself, you don't need to try to handle everything by yourself, and actually sacrificing yourself when you don't need to is kind of a dick move, and yes I know from experience because I'm omniscient now" [which ties into what's kind of the thesis statement of the show, Simon and Fionna both feeling like they're not special and don't deserve to exist or receive care and affection because they aren't exceptional, ie don't have magical abilities/live in an adventurous fantasy world; basically, you don't NEED to be super talented and amazing and saintlike to deserve to be happy, you just need to BE, and do your best as a human])
FOOTNOTE: when Scarab told Fionna that what she did wrong was exist, it was painfully reminiscent of transphobic (and anti-ND) harassment (and ultimately added another layer of satisfaction and validation to his defeat) and tbh it's hard for me to believe the writers didn't intend that at least subconsciously
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Originality, Criticism, and Entitlement
After joining the IF community, I've come to see (and experience) the accusation that there are IF writers who steal, copy, or even plagiarize another author's work. I'm going to explain why throwing such accusations around is harmful not only to the accused, but the community as a whole.
This is also an explanation as to why they're incredibly stupid criticisms, and unless there is actual, direct evidence that the work is being copied or stolen, it is not, as such "critics" want to call it, "ripping off" anybody.
(Long read)
Star Wars (1977) is considered by many to be the world's first real blockbuster, with such sensation and hype that even over thirty years since its original release date, it reminds a key figure in our pop culture and media today. In every form or fashion, Star Wars was groundbreaking in terms of cinematic storytelling and movie-going experience.
But Star Wars is nothing new.
George Lucas, the creator, has discussed many times over the years just how precisely the world of Star Wars came to be, and its origins go back much, much farther than you think.
George Lucas claimed that the idea of Star Wars was inspired by Flash Gordon serials, a comic book series that was turned into a TV show in the 1930s. The famous title crawl that appears at the beginning of every Star Wars movie?
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Look familiar?
It is also a pretty well known fact that the Galactic Empire and Rebels, along with the battle scenes within the movies, also take heavy inspiration from WWII. Stormtroopers are German Gestapo, the X-Wings and TIE Fighters are inspired by WWII aerial combat: https://youtu.be/msb8OdvBBjU
There is a clear right and wrong that is written into the Star Wars universe, and that most assuredly comes from the material and real world events that George Lucas was inspired by; serial comics and shows of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, leaned heavily into black and white morality. This is why superheroes from that era like Superman or Batman were originally written as static characters. "Superman is invincible, that's not as interesting as the X-Men struggling with their place in society!" Well, yeah, that's because Superman was meant to be nothing more than a comic book character that allows children to act out their power fantasy- "you can't make me go to bed, mom! Superman doesn't go to bed!" etc. etc.
But Star Wars has inspiration that goes back even further than the 1930s. It goes back to ancient Mesopotamia.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is the world's oldest and most notable form of literature that we know of. It is an epic that describes the heroic journey of one Gilgamesh, told in five parts. This is the earliest known example of what is known as "The Hero's Journey" in literature.
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If you have any knowledge of the first movie of Star Wars, you're well aware of the story beats that you can read out in this diagram, as well be able to distinguish the similarities it has with The Epic of Gilgamesh.
Does this mean that Star Wars ripped off The Epic of Gilgamesh?
No. It doesn't. Because even though the story shares similar story beats, and features a black-and-white morality, a sci-fi space opera is a far cry from ancient Mesopotamian gods battling with each other. George Lucas didn't read the epic in school and decide "ah ha! I know how I'm going to make money!"
He was inspired, and he took that inspiration and created a multi-billion dollar franchise that millions love across the globe. He wrote that story and directed that movie, he put in the blood, sweat (lots of sweat- they filmed in Tunisia) and tears to make something WHOLLY NEW, and yet in some ways...similar.
Humans are very complex creatures, and our brain loves nothing more than finding patterns in things. Why is there such a thing as the Rule of Three in literature, a rule that dictates the satisfaction the reader gets when a story has a plot that occurs in three parts? Why is there traditionally only three acts? It is, simply put, satisfying. This traditional three-part structure often times creates stories that may look or feel similar simply because of how it is structured. This is not copying. This is a literature technique that humans have been using since the beginning of language itself.
And this is why I have such a problem with the people suggesting that authors are "copying" popular works- no one solely invented story beats, no one invented the supernatural fiction, no one, singular person, solely created the concepts that we are using today. No one. Not a single thing written is wholly original.
Originality is overrated. We are products of our environment, our culture, our media we consume- if an IF writer has a story with vampires and other supernatural creatures, and the MC is a detective attempting to solve crimes, was that invented by the very popular Wayhaven Chronicles by Mishka Jenkins? No. Vampires in media are nothing new, detectives in media are nothing new, and if they so happen to exist in other stories, what of it? Did Mishka invent vampires? No. They're a cultural phenomenon that has existed in multiple civilizations at once. Did she invent detectives? Obviously not.
Mishka was inspired and so were countless of other IF writers to write a story that involved the supernatural. These IF writers may have similar story beats, they may have similar themes, but that does not make it copying.
You know what makes Star Wars or The Wayhaven Chronicles or any other form of entertaining media great? Innovation.
It is how the authors tell the story, and why it is being written that creates such vast differences in genres. Star Wars isn't The Epic of Gilgamesh because its just "in space", it is the magnificent, innovative storytelling behind Star Wars that makes it so unique in our minds. The cinematography, the storytelling, the dialogue, the acting- all of that hard work into making something worthwhile and good is what makes it so unique when comparing it to other media that feature the literary use of "The Hero's Journey".
We all have something to bring to the table, to tell our stories that have a piece of us inside them. They are influenced by our laughter, our tears, our horror, our love, our rage or terrible indifference. They are influenced by our passions, our delusions, and they are written because we wish it to be so.
Are all impressionists copying Monet because he popularized impressionism? Are all artists who paint in similar styles copying off of the one who created the style in the first place? No. They're not.
To accuse IF authors, particularly the INNOCENT ones of copying others is an unbelievably insulting and ignorant statement that disregards the author's creativity and free will to write whatever the hell they want. If all you have to see out of a story is the basic, bare bones elements to it, then allow me to speak for all IF authors out there and say:
You're missing the fucking point!
We've all put our hard work into not only LEARNING a coding language (which, surprise, not ALL of us know and have to spend HOURS figuring out) but we've learned a coding language to create a game for other people to enjoy, and we'll be damn fucking lucky if we're able to get any money off of our work that we have put in it.
This criticism becomes a form of entitlement real fast, as if a reader has any say as to the pace or way an IF story (or any art for that matter) is written.
Most of us are doing this because we love the idea of putting our work out there as an IF fiction for fun. Some of us have to work jobs, some of us have complicated lives that demand constant attention, some of us wish to do this as a living, but all of us?
All of us deserve the courtesy of being a creator that is sharing their work with the world.
The next time you decide to accuse an IF writer of copying another person, ask yourself if it's legitimate plagiarism or you're just someone who doesn't have the capacity to consider that literary themes, tropes, cliches, and genres, are not the same thing as "copying".
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variousqueerthings · 3 years
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daniel is just lovely and that's the most unforgiveable thing (I wrote this opening last and now I want to make it an opening to a fic - alas, the below the cut is not a fic, do not be mislead)
I think people struggle so hard with that, even people (especially cis guys) who genuinely like his character -
they try to catch him out and find his cynical badness, to prove that he's not "better" than them, even though he's literally fictional, the goodness of daniel larusso won't jump out of the screen and judge you (the "judgement" btw - the "self-aware that I'm the good guy" judgement - is the thing the cobra kai writers write into him for that reason, even though -and I mean this - I think they sincerely are doing their best and like his character + I think there are ways to be very interesting about that --- I too would get a bit fucking tired of everyone's drama invading my space after 35+ years --- I too would be wary of allowing that mentality into my space even if I was on the same side as the person who acts that way --- plus with a heavy dose of grief. so it's not like you can't make it work, but I don't think that's quite why the writers do it, I don't think they can conceive of what his masculinity is, because it's so foreign to them -- it is, in fact, a masculinity that is far more spoken of in queer spaces --- it is, in many ways, a queer masculinity)
moving on:
I wonder if that's fear of what he represents thematically, hitting so hard because it's one of the most intense masculine anxieties - what does a man look like who isn't self-consciously attempting to Be A Man? what is a man who isn't concerned with that?
he doesn't contain the kind of masculinity that needs to be upheld through some kind of reactive violence, either towards the self or towards others -
he doesn't try to be the smartest or the strongest in order to "perform correct masculinity" and he doesn't self-hate (as, I assume some of these "critics" believe, he should) just because he's not these things
he doesn't put down girls and women around him to make himself bigger + he doesn't have anxieties about "not being the perfect guy" for girls to like (as is quite common in male characters who aren't beefy or smart, because the self-insert is usually meant to represent the nerdy guys who make the story - maybe because neither RMK nor John Avildsen were this guy??? and nor do I think was ralph macchio for that matter)
(his anxieties around this are mainly class anxieties, however even these aren't rooted in "better" masculinity, like he's not trying to get money to hook up with a girl - by accident or by design it's fascinating that neither ali nor kumiko are ever prizes, they're fully onboard for this guy practically the second they see him)
he's not self-flagellatingly trying to become the kind of man that a violently self-hating father would him to become to uphold the Legacy Of Masculinity, as is common for boys' coming-of-age stories and/or the men they grow into in later stories, because that figure didn't exist in his life. both miyagi and, from the sounds of it, his birth father, never created those anxieties within him
for the most part he's not even super concerned with questions of masculinity. he's in sports movies - some of the most classical vehicles for "what makes a man" themes - and he's basically going "nah, I'm okay actually, weird though that other dudes are so obsessed with me, I'm literally just there" but it's kind of a perfectly created character, because yeah, real life men have reacted in the exact same way, even, at times, towards ralph macchio himself
which is also why discussions around "was daniel the real bully and/or instigating and therefore equally bad" are kind of rooted in that weird gotcha mentality, because like
1. obviously not
2. they're just one version of all the ways this fictional character bleeds into the psyche of guys so threatened by a dude whose sole difference is not being afraid of himself, that they have to invent violence on his part for him to make sense in their minds - what even is a man who doesn't express himself through violence, either against himself or others????? why doesn't he hate himself for being "weak"?? why isn't he afraid dammit???? of expressing his emotions, of looking like an idiot, of being physically weaker than other men, of all the ways he doesn't measure up to what masculinity ought to be according to these narrow, violent criteria??? (sidenote: am surprised not more non-queer people read him as queer - maybe because he gets the girls and bisexuality wasn't invented until tumblr //sarcasm)
how dare the narrative allow a man like this to win - he needs to be taken down a peg. that's what he deserves! this has nothing to do with my own opinions of masculinity!
anyway I'd love to see more characters like this - he's a rarity, kind of a blip of the same kind that created river phoenix movies or patrick swayze in dirty dancing (but then, patrick swayze was also in road house, because he could butch up for it, but also in to wong foo - the range)
more complicated depictions of men - why are male directors so obsessed with the anxiety of masculinity? and also - at what point does the complication of gender-depictions onscreen become the queering of gender-depictions onscreen?
[this is basically just a ramble that is so close to bleeding into my "transmasculinity can challenge the mythos of masculinity in film" essay in which I also namedrop daniel larusso anyway]
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