#pokemon diamond and pearl remakes

[sharkbytes662]

been playing bdsp

[sixmarbles]

going back to my roots (pokemon fanart)

i love her sm thank you sinnoh champion cynthia for creating gay people

[hufflesocks]

A Ho-Oh + Galarian Zapdos fusion that was in a dream I had a couple days ago

[jadeazora]

An unpopular opinion? Personally, I don't think a BDSP-style remake would be a huge detriment to Unova.

Ofc, I don't want them to get a faithful remake and would favor something like ORAS or Legends, but BW still holds up pretty well with its story and characters. There's not a ton more that I really want to see from the story, aside from maybe more info on Ghetsis and the Shadow Triad, and what the original Dragon looked like. But what is there is pretty solid already. Mostly, I would like to see QoL updates to alleviate grinding.

BDSP was a worst-case scenario for DP because Platinum just did everything so much better than the originals (pacing, story/characters, Mons roster), and then they backtracked on most of it for BDSP. There's also a lot of missed potential when certain characters like Cyrus and Cynthia have received a fair amount of development and personal history about them outside of their initial games.

And this is still a long time away off too, but a faithful remake would be an even worse-case scenario for XY, since those games had so much potential that never got properly developed. At least we have Platinum for the definitive Sinnoh experience, but Kalos never got its third version.

[ciciciron]

It lagged my shitty phone to death, needed to be restored 4 times, took 56 hours over the course of 25 days, crashed Ibis just now and needs to be restored again if I ever want to look at the layers and maybe it isn't worth it cuz I can't remember my goal but it's done.

[daikondog]

i like to think he has five pawmi. one is shiny and they are all named after citruses

[turboacek-blog]

BDSP was fine, y'all just mean

Kinda kidding but not really as I know it's a hot take

Written Feb 6th 2024

Not saying some of the dislike wasn't worth it

But the problem wasn't with ILCA it's the base game of Diamond and Pearl

A lot of people's complaints basically sum up that they didn't incorporate Platinum into the game

Mainly from Pokemon available, with some mentioning the Giratina distortion world and such plus other changes that platinum had from DP like battle frontier differences

On one hand yes it would have been nice if they did make some more changes like implementing more Platinum story elements making it more of a definitive Sinnoh experience

But also it's DP remakes not Platinum remakes

Similar with ORAS and FRLG they had some new stuff and revamped stuff. But it's not like FRLG had Yellow elements (that's lets go) and ORAS had a lot of Emerald. At most the Delta episode for ORAS was their workaround for no Emerald so if you want to group that as the full game then sure BDSP needed some DLC but then you have the DLC dilemma is getting the platinum stuff worth an extra $20-$30 dollars and have that dlc debate

The underground solved a lot of the issues imo

The underground having Pokemon down there personally solved a lot of the Pokemon availability problem

For example, I picked Turtwig so I wasn't just limited to Ponyta for a fire type since I didn't pick Chimchar I had options as Magby and Houndour were now available, which fixes the fire type problem imo

And I think people overreact about the changes to the bases and flag capturing as yes it would have been nice if they were the same but I think the changes outweigh it greatly. Plus if ORAS showed anything people really didn't care to have the secret bases as secret bases and just liked it for nostalgia mainly

Not saying BDSP was perfect but I do think in a lot of aspects it is the definitive Sinnoh experience as you're basically just missing the Giratina story which isn't as necessary to the plot imo

As it kinda just seems like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum were seen as definitive because they don't have the dual version conundrum so they seem more complete in compariso. But when the dual version games get additional content is the additional usually third legendary plot really worth it?

Maybe maybe not

And I know a lot of rumors about potential Johto or Unova remakes have been going on and people are worried as they didn't like BDSP

But if for example ILCA makes the remakes and has the chibi style and etc

But they fix the level scaling in Johto or something like Pokemon availability for Unova I think those would be better even if minimal changed

I do have my own hopes and wishes for potential remakes but I will wait until they are officially announced

[bogkeep]

the way the most recent pokemon games don't let you turn off the exp share or the affection mechanic bonuses is nothing short of maddening. i think they make great accessibility features If Only They Were Optional and the flavour text is cute, but i want to have a fun casual playthrough that's at least mildly challenging without having to make it a nuzlocke or something. i don't want to feed my starter bitter medicines to make her hate me :(

[luesmainblog]

today i learned that the pokemon main games haven't actually been coming out THAT much faster. there was a 4 year difference between Ruby/Saphire and Diamond/Pearl, and then another 4 between Diamond/Pearl and Black/White. from there on, it's been a 3 year difference between each new generation. in fact, that's actually a lot slower than the early days. so, why does it FEEL faster? well, for one thing, i'm older. 3 years just isn't as long anymore. for another, i don't pay as much attention anymore, so it sneaks up on me. but for another... didn't there used to be, like. WAY more side games? if you look at Side Series, we stopped getting Stadium/Colosseum-style games after Gen 4, and then Dream Radar and Dream World for 5 were followed by.... bank and home. then you look at the overall timeline on wikipedia and slowly watch as more and more of the updates are for anime stuff, less and less little side games. the sides that do exist tend to be mobile or online, too... and maybe that's what it is. i hear less and less news about small side projects that used to be there to fill the time and get a bit more money to work on the main game. and without that constant barrage of Pokemon News, the next generation sneaks up on me a lot faster.

man, growing up kinda sucks, huh.

[calicobel]

I am both excited and terrified for the inevitable black/white remake

[tinyfantasminha]

im sorry for the person I'm about to become if unova remakes gets announced at the pokemon direct tomorrow

[toxxik-skintea]

Sooo….

For the Pokémon Z truthers and the people who genuinely believed we were gonna get a Pokémon Black and white remake, how y’all feeling

[yoshiebear]

My friend asked me why I have three versions of the same Pokemon game (Pearl, Platinum, and Brilliant Diamond), so i went on an unhinged ADHD rant. Realized I could post it here, so I edited it into a coherent paragraph. Let me know if I got anything wrong! I'm not an expert at all just a pokemon fan. TL;DR availible at the end. Explanation below the cut:

Ok so pokemon games! They usually come out in pairs, excluding gen 1 and probably some others. Like how Diamond and Pearl are both basically the same game and released at the same time. Two or three years later (usually before the next gen releases), they release a "sequel," for lack of a better term. Often it's one game. For example, Pokemon Diamond and Pearl became Pokemon Platinum. Sometimes they're direct sequels though, like Sun and Moon turning into Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon or Black and White turning into Black 2 and White 2.

Gamefreak also remakes their old Pokemon games. They remade Red and Green into FireRed and LeafGreen. Ruby and Sapphire got the same treatment, becoming Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. They usually come with graphics improvements among other tweaks, and are released on newer console than the originals; Red and Green were for the Gameboy, FireRed and LeafGreen were for the Gameboy Advance. The remakes for those two came out about eight years later. Diamond and Pearl were made for the DS, but Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl (their remakes) were for the Switch. Those remakes came out about 15 years later than the original games, releasing in 2022.

The biggest difference between pokemon game pairs is usually the main legendary pokemon. Ex. in Pearl, the Team Galactic captured Palkia. In Diamond, they capture Dialga. That means Palkia is only able to be caught in Pokemon Pearl and Dialga is only in Diamond. There's lesser differences in catchable pokemon between the game pairs too. In the Grand Underground while playing the Pearl version, you can find Armor Fossils while digging. They can be restored in the Oreburgh Museum to get the pokemon Shieldon. In Diamond, you instead find Skull Fossils that can be restored into Cranidos. There are also other pokemon that can be caught in Pearl and not Diamond, and vice versa. Besides Dialga/Palkia/Giritina though, you can see every single Sinnoh pokemon in all versions of the gen4 games and unlock the national pokedex. I think there's also Kanto pokemon that can only be found in one version or the other of the game when you unlock the international pokedex? Not totally sure on that one.

Platinum, Pearl and Diamond's "sequel," changes the end of the story altogether, with the distortion world and all (haven't made it to that point in the game yet 😅). Giritina is the main legendary pokemon in it that the villain captures. You can also obtain Palkia and Dialga after defeating the Elite Four. Despite calling it a sequel, Pokemon Platinum isn't all that different from the other two Sinnoh region games besides the distortion world. A few of the gyms are different, the post-game Battle Park becomes the Battle Frontier, some of the graphics are better (?), there's two new islands (Full Moon and New Moon Island) where Cressilia and Darkrai can be found, and the progression of the gyms is a bit different. It may seem like a lot, but in the grand scheme of things it's the same game as the other two.

Thanks for reading, all two of you! I appreciate it a lot. Spent way too much time on this, and even more time editing it for Tumblr than writing it in the first place.

TL;DR: Pokemon games come out in pairs that are almost identical, but not quite. Certain pokemon are only availible in one version or the other. They also usually have one sequel game or a pair of sequel games. Generations 1-4 have all had remakes throughout the years, like Gold and Silver for the Gameboy Color becoming Heartgold and Soulsilver for the DS. Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are the most recent remakes, coming out for the Switch even though the originals released for the DS.

[jadeazora]

Out of curiosity, since two are the most disliked remakes among fans.

For me, we didn't really need another Kanto game, and the GO mechanics weren't really appealing to me, but I feel it had a decent amount of things that made it more unique and charming. I also really liked the Gym Leader redesigns, them adding Archer and Mina, and finally giving Green a little bit of spotlight. It also had the best following Pokemon.

BDSP improved gameplay over the original DP (I do appreciate them too for some things like how HMs were implemented, the ways they actually made the E4 a challenge with competitive EVs, moves, and Items), and the Grand Underground was pretty addicting, but was released with a ton of bugs and was a major waste of potential since they didn't really add any of the upgraded story/characterization from Platinum, and also kinda a waste since they couldn't really add anything from Legends either. (A faithful remake was just a poor choice for DP since Platinum did everything so much better, and the remake still falls short of it due to using the inferior versions.)

[sapphicgoblinblog]

Hot take: Pokemon BDSP was a great remake!

[daikondog]

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