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#sfm epilogue
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claire-starsword · 2 months
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Authentic Story of the Shining Force - Saint Fencer Max - Chapter 4
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This is the last boob joke. We're free at last.
Here's the retranslation of every scene with the Spring of Recollection in the game. Overall, her speech here is fairly close to what she says in Waral in-game, with a few details from her final appearance sprinkled in, like her care for Cain. It does misses a few nuances though, like the Legacy being more than just Dark Dragon.
I don't think I've ever seen art of the Spring, but notably, she gets a portrait in the GBA version, and it looks a lot like the manga design, with the slightly wavy hair and especially the blank eyes.
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Obviously, the manga rushes through the plot since it's short, thus a lot of places are skipped. I didn't even feel like pointing them out before. However I will point out Waral not being here this time, because Waral happens to not be in the beta map either, and it has very contradicting lore between the ASCII guide and the World Book, meaning it might have not been well developed. Besides, Chapter 5 is very weirdly structured. You get two ship battles that are basically the same, you get to Waral by accident, you advance the plot by going to Ring Reef for no reason and everyone telling you it's off-limits while letting you waltz in anyway, and hardly anything happens in the shrine besides you hearing about the Manual, which is not even a big deal because you get to Rudo by accident later (two ship accidents!! why repeat this plot point!!) and would go to Dragonia anyway to help Bleu. Basically, I obviously can't prove it, but it wouldn't surprise me if the ocean shrine was initially thought off as only a plot scene, and the battles/town added much later for gameplay reasons.
Perhaps worth mentioning, the GBA version also makes a point to mention that Max got lost in the shrine alone, and everyone was worried about him, which does remind me a lot of the ship scene here.
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uh oh. i hit image limit for the first time and i don't wanna remove either of these pics. more notes on a reblog later.
#shining series#shining force#saint fencer max#saint fencer max translation#sfm max#sf cain#so. gamers. fans. friends and followers. are we good? are we normal? are we normal about the last pages? i'm not#unfortunately my typesetting does not do it justice but at least i put up a fight#those unending creaking noises mess me up so good#it's just. so good. all of this#why did the gba version wasted time with boring villain epilogues#when it could be giving me the Good Stuff (angst of a long haired anime man)#also is his hair dyed? the eyebrows kinda imply that. i'm not sure i like that but i'm not sure i dislike that either#his hair is so good tho#anyway i could talk about him forever and i will but i gotta talk about the spring too#i really like the sword of light being here. it works aesthetically at least. the mishaela plot is very dumb#i had a whole thing about the sword of light typed but i took it out for later cause it doesn't have much to do with the manga#will probably come though! the three max cain plots are the same basically but there have some difference in the details#that has mashed together in my brain#so i wanna pick that apart at some point#anyway back to the mango. i dearly miss the nuance about the legacy even though it took me a while to notice it in the game#between this and the pseudo-magic introduction the manga does suck a bit at portraying the ancients#but i like how despite the weird pacing of the manga this part kinda flows better#with the spring's revelations all here in the middle#instead of popping in manarina like 'yeah boy you're hero of fate wait three chapter until we elaborate on that though'#naturally the game has good battle content to keep you happy through it#but the manarina scene feels kinda useless to me#anyway i probably had more to say about this while translating but i'm very sleepy#i will never shut up about this chapter though. mark my words
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autistichalsin · 10 months
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I am eternally grateful that I could share "we learned Halsin's surname is Silverbough and also we got all of our Daddy Halsin dreams fulfilled and then some" day with all of you!!!!!!
Today was an insane day and I probably would have had a mental breakdown from grad school stress if it wasn't for you guys being here for me to scream with. I LOVE ALL OF YOU and i look forward to continuing to post my insane overanalytical essays about Oak Daddy, along with some fics- like, I had an idea for Kiaran (my Durge) and Halsin that I worried was a bit OOC/wish fulfillment that now the epilogue confirms is PERFECTLY in character, and of course, the ideas I had before for Halsin's life in the commune have only GROWN! Not only do I need Halsin as a midwife and performing weddings for the adults while he takes care of all the kids, but I need him getting lovingly tackled by a hoard of them, I need him teaching them all about nature and bringing them on nature walks, I need him taking care of babies while the parents are away...
And I need him getting wistful that even though all these children call him Daddy, they still aren't "his". The first time one of them gets adopted, he is a mess- he's happy, of course he has to be happy but he's almost devastated and he doesn't know how to sort through his emotions!
And I also really want the kids, who of course are way more perceptive than even Halsin realizes, to discover that Halsin gets Scared of things. He doesn't like the dark, doesn't like when Thaniel and Oliver in particular get hurt, doesn't like certain noises. And eventually he's forced to give them an explanation disguised as a bedtime story. I need to write all of these things!
Plus I also need to write my OTP, Furioso, too.
I'M SO EXCITED TO HAVE SO MANY FIC ADVENTURES WITH YOU ALL!!! I LOVE YOU ALL SFM I HAVEN'T HAD THIS MUCH FUN IN A FANDOM IN SO LONG. You guys helped me get my confidence in my writing back and so much more!!!
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leonleonhart · 1 year
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i want to tattoo the entirety of the sfm epilogue onto my brain so i can remember it every day of my life
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anonymouspuzzler · 2 years
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hi puzz :-) seeing ur artwork rlly brightens my day, especially ur sfm stuff! it makes me smile x-) for the sake of askin somethin related to your last few pieces, do you think kamal still plays the cello post-game? i think boris would enjoy listening to him play it as much as he would enjoy looking through kamal’s old photos pfft. have a good one -🪰
thank you so much...!!!! and we actually know for a fact he still plays the cello, from the same source we know he plays it at all - he mentions playing the cello for the song in the "Smile for Today" epilogue!!
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witchboyjimin · 2 years
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Gah I'm glad to hear! I'm so so so so stoked for ILHDYS 10 plus epilogue but also hearing you mention other fic ideas is making me giddy hihi. It did peak my interest when you said the other day how you wanted to write different kind of characters who are not black and white is and more ambiguous. It's an interesting road to travel fic wise.
Also regarding Trek, I'm basic/classic. Spock and Kirk are the beginning and end to it all. When even the author himself says so, well I'm sold yall. And the history of fandom in trek particularly is so so interesting and the influence it had and has on fandom history as whole get me STARTED on this i stg lmfao.
[inhales deeply] DOOGGOOOOSSS ❤️❤️❤️ dogs are just the absolute best. My family's always had dogs. Our old dachshund had to be put to sleep in April unfortunately. But my mom gets a new dog this week actually. An old ladie haha. All dog breeds usually are an absolute 107 percent yay for me. And i will, once the day comes, get a shelter dog or rescue dog. What about yoouu?
many apologies for the late reply cabin anonie ✨...it's been a Week. i got a root canal done yesterday and took today off to recover so i finally have some time jdfh
thank you for loving ilhdys so much crying emoji x 1000000 truly, you are keeping me going TTT but yes!! i really want to write like morally grey characters or even unlikable characters. i feel like fanfic has kinda....okay with fic, you're writing about characters/people everyone knows and because of that there's this expectation these days that you have to write them as wholesome/perfect/good people. if you don't, then you're making them look bad and this is all driven by how much fans of the characters/people love them. they don't want to see their fav depicted in a "bad" light (really it's just moral policing). but because of this, i feel like storytelling in fic has really been damaged and limited tbh. i also feel like i've veered away from being able to tell the kinds of stories i want because i'm worried about how people will receive characters who are imperfect, who do fuck up, and even who do bad things on purpose. it's definitely happening, in part, because of how puritanical fandom has gotten and because i think people are a lot more entitled over their favs these days so they can't tolerate them being depicted in a way they disagree with.
i think i'm finally getting back to a point where i'm storytelling to challenge myself and to challenge my readers versus feeling obligated to tell wholesome, low conflict stories because people just want fluff. i love reading about my two blorbos falling in love as much as the next person but eventually it gets boring to read low conflict stories over and over again (FOR ME). and it gets boring writing them, too (ALSO FOR ME). and i will add that i think fic has a specific purpose which is people wanting to indulge in their fav characters and pairings but i don't think it has to be restricted to that especially when my favourite fics always did more than just that.
ANYWAYS!!!!! i've clearly been thinking about this a lot lmao sorry to dump it all on you cabin anon ✨...thank you so much is you even read this essay dfjdh
YES!!!!!!!!! TASTE!!!!!!!!!!! i am ALSO a kirk/spock truther ugh i love them sfm and i love the star trek movies that came out 2009 onwads so much too truly the fandom history and the fact that we have slash because of k/s shippers is everything to me.
aw :c i'm so sorry about your dachshund;; it's always so hard to lose a pet even if that's something you're signing up for with pet ownership TTT ugh, dogs are just so fckn delightful and truly...no one loves you like a dog loves you. i love them!!!! i hope you guys have been having tons of fun with your new ladie hehe unfortunately, i don't currently have a dog due to my living situation but i'm hoping that changes by next year >:) i really want a bichon frise fjdsj BUT i also love all breeds. i just know i'm not built to have a super active breed but if i was, i'd 100% get a coonhound. i think they're so gorgeous
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admircot · 4 years
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snapsicle · 4 years
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teruthecreator · 4 years
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i have so many thoughts about the epilogue so just jgbrbgjhrgbhrjg under the readmore spoilers for if u havent gone through it yet
the whole experience honestly just felt like a warm hug from both the creators and the cast of characters themselves. i haven’t existed in the fandom space for all that long, and i’ve yet to publish any works or generate any content for it, but just playing this through i still felt welcomed and appreciated and loved!! but i also loved how they incorporated So Many fanworks into it!!! from the email icons, to the images they sent, even the links they mentioned (the zine, penny snapcubes playthrough, that spotify playlist). this is one of the few times i’ve seen creators Truly acknowledge and appreciate their fanbase and validate the creations made inspired by the base material. it made the whole experience all the more warm!!! 
also the dialogue still felt very real!! i was nearly screaming bc even though i couldn’t hear the lil noises the characters make when you interacted with them in the game, i still could imagine their sprites and the way their sprites would change based on emotions and it was just!!!! so good!!! obviously they made the game so they’d understand the dialogue of their own characters but like props to em bc this is amazing
GAY PEOPLE REAL AND THAT’S ALL LIKE I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY ABOUT THAT AND YET I WILL ELABORATE BC YUGO AND GABE SAID GAY RIGHTS AND I WILL BE CRYING ABOUT THIS FOR THE NEXT MILLENNIA
 randy and gillis are just sooooooooooooooooooooo good. i will cry. RANDY WROTE A POEM,,,,ABOUT GILLIS,,,,,AND HE DOODLED A BUNCH OF HEARTS AROUND IT,,,,,MY HEART. AND THEN GILLIS ASKING FOR HIM TO READ THE OTHER POEM AND THEN REALIZE HE SENT IT TO THE GROUPCHAT IM SCREAMING. THANK YOU FOR JOCK/NERD REPRESENTATION I OWE YOU MY ASS 
also Lesbians. need i say anymore??? lesbians are Here and Accounted For. LULIA WANTING TO FLIRT BUT SHES SO AWKWARD ABOUT IT SHE SAYS “PLEASE” RIGHT AT THE END.......LOVE YOU QUEEN YOU’RE DOING YOUR BEST AND JERAFINA IS SEEING THAT 
last but not least we got habit and kamal and i Will be crying about this for the next eight hundred forever bc God,,,,,Gay People. 
i feel like the steam cards and habit’s valentine’s tweets sorta give away how their subtle implications are meant to be viewed, but i also really like how their current relationship is sorta open-ended! like they’re in the friend phase now, and in time Will Definitely be a thing. but i also feel like you could interpret it as Currently they’re a couple and they’re just being quiet abt it bc idk anxiety?? who knows. but i really liked how kamal was willing to help habit through everything!!! it’s very sweet!!! tho i really do hope he got some therapy bc he needs therapy God Please They All Do 
honestly my favorite parts of this thing were kamal. i love how he sorta lead the charge in organizing this email list, when in the game he relied on You to get everything together before he sprung into action. i think it proves that kamal’s got more gumption than previously assumed!! whether he gained some confidence after the Habitat, or was just really quiet and non-committal Because of getting tooth-shamed by Habit, it was really nice to see kamal portrayed as not just some anxious bumbling guy. dude’s got some depth!!! i feel like sometimes the fandom boils him down to just his anxiety, but this epilogue really let more of his character out!! like the fact that he plays the CELLO???? HELLO??? SIR??? YOU ARE A LEGEND??? DID YOU KNOW THIS???
also the music Literally made me cry. if it didnt make you cry, listen to it again. gods of composing, i swear! 
lastly, the ending. i really did love how they left you, the player (or the flower kid), the opportunity to just Say Anything. you didn’t have to do it immediately, you weren’t given dialogue options. you got a blank box to write Whatever, and i think that’s really sweet and satisfying and just...good! 
my email was kind of short. i felt weird writing it at first because my personal interpretation of flower kid is (like frisk) theyre their own character?? apart from the player?? but i know that wasn’t limbolane’s intentions, and both creators have said that flower kid can be an audience insert or an actual character based on your interpretation!! i could’ve delved into all the emotional ways in which i feel like this game has moved me during the, like, three months ive been hyperfixated on it. but i didnt! bc i didnt wanna cry anymore hgrbhjrgbh
i did call habit a king tho and i live by that. 
basically tldr; Play Smile For Me and Play The Epilogue bc it’s very good 
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kapow-kakick · 4 years
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pyrokenes1s · 4 years
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BOKAY
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kurokrisps · 4 years
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I love this format already. It feels like I'm on my grandmother's old windows computer.
And I didn't even use anything like messenger
The conversations, this is exactly how a conversation in general would go
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cdfreak · 4 years
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just finished the sfm epilogue and im fucking crying god i love this game so much
it means so much to me and it helped me a lot during a shit time in my life and i just, jflasjdsdkj god the characters and the devs thank yous,,,, im just ksljdksadjaskjKLJASKLDJAKLk christ
ok wait i stopped writing this post in the middle to go back and listen to the sogn and reread the last few messages and the devs thank you while it played and oh my god i did not htink it was possible to cry harder but here we are ,,,, 
god im just. 
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springtrapsdarkroom · 3 years
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leonleonhart · 1 year
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god, realized that sfm epilogue satisfies same itch that old chatroom fics used to
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stabby-pal · 4 years
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2 different kinds of epilogues
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