#shen jiu propaganda

[web-novel-polls]

(Adding my 2 cents about Shen Jiu, hope that's ok!)

Part of what makes him such a great character is that he's bad, he's so terrible in so many ways, but he's self-aware of it enough to feel terrible about it and yet so deeply stuck in his ways that he feels he can never change.

Part of the tragedy of his character is there are allegations thrown against him that are true AND false and he simply REFUSES to clarify or defend himself against any of them because he doesn't see the point.

He's a character who treats everything in his life like it's transient, or a threat, or will one day betray him. And because of this, when his livelihood is threatened, homie straight up does nothing to defend himself, even when it's pretty strongly suggested that some allegations are exaggerated or straight up false.

And because of the unreliable narration of both SVSSS's MC, and the possible unreliable narration of Proud Immortal Demon Way, AND the fact Shen Jiu himself refused to elaborate, a lot of his life is STILL a mystery.

He's stubborn and prideful and deeply tragic, and ultimately ends up right back, by his own actions, where he started as a child: powerless, imprisoned, and abused.

BUT he still, he STILL, cared for his childhood friend. He's the type to make someone hate him to preserve that person's life, so they don't want to risk themself for him. I want to put him in a jar and shake him. He's pathetic and lamentable and horrible (I love him).

[Photo ID - a meme of a man with his hands up near his shoulders. The text above him reads, "You can always talk about characters in my ask box." The text between his hands reads, "it's always morally correct." /End ID]

My brain is super foggy rn, but yes, that's a lot of what I like about Shen Jiu. There's a lot of aspects I relate to him about, and he's just really interesting to me

[the-tyler-as-in-skyler]

shen bros doodle inspired by a post i saw about shen jiu making shen yuan worse

i love them, they’re so precious to me (they’re gossiping to each other)

[jade-len]

if you think you'd be able to, feel free to add your method of fixing him (or making him obsessed) (or completely fucking him up) lmao

edit: yes, you have meta knowledge in this situation

[jerktournament]

ROUND TWO - Shen Jiu (The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System) VS GLaDOS (Portal)

!!! PROPAGANDA BELOW !!!

SHEN JIU: "To explain... A penniless orphan child: my late mom would be happy if I went to school :) Shen Jiu, formerly also a penniless orphan child, now a teacher: oh so you had a mom who loved you? fuck you *attempts to indirectly kill a child in question several times*" "ok i can’t find a good picture of him but trust me he’s very mean and slay ! and he’s Green that’s enough"

GLaDOS: "So mot only is she running your character through a series of puzzles with the intention of killing her at the end, but in the second game she spends the Entire. Time. Verbally and emotionally abusing you, including body shaming and bullying you for being an orphan. If it's any consolation, she does have to exist as a potato for the second and third acts of Portal 2." "Known for being mean (hot). Mercilessly targets the player character's every possible insecurity. Petty and mean."

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

First off, it is absolutely hilarious that you matched up Shen Jiu & Mike Shelly aka the 2 guys that got bodysnatched in one way or another. Secondly, this is propaganda for Shen Jiu because he really IS incredibly tragic. Mike, while very tragic himself, is at least acknowledged by the cast as a separate person and, in a way, mourned. Shen Jiu never gets that. Only 2 people ever know he was a separate person, and quite frankly neither of them liked him much. Shang Qinghua was more scared of him than anything else while he was alive, and Shen Yuan is LITERALLY the person who snatched his body, and does not give a shit beyond being annoyed at SQH for not giving him the complete backstory to Shen Jiu in the "og" novel. And thing is, a ton of bad stuff would have happened if he DIDN'T get snatched! how would it feel to know that all of your family and friends would be safe and happy and all you had to do was just... not be you anymore. Nearly everything that went wrong in your timeline was so fucking avoidable that this guy managed to avoid the "rocks fall, everybody dies" part of it while acting on only half the information he actually needs. Mike is a tragedy because his fate was ultimately unavoidable, manipulated by the hands of others. Shen Jiu is a tragedy because his fate could have been avoided SO. EASILY.

[Propaganda]

[cutestbitches]

propaganda: if you know shen jiu (the original shen qingqiu) please submit him you know he fits the bill

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[nemainofthewater]

Have they committed crimes?

Yes, so many. SO MANY.

Are they still my special little meow meow, sopping wet, should be allowed to commit MORE crimes?

Also yes.

By the nature of the poll, this is highly subjective - please feel free to nominate your own crime-filled blorbos if mine don't tickle your fancy! It is entirely possible for the write in candidates to win (looking at you DMBJ fandom) so feel free to coordinate, cooperate, and get your characters to the finish line!

Please do be civil though - lift your own meow meow up, don't put other meow meow down.

Have fun everyone!

Write-ins, propaganda, and images are welcome!

[ungodly-amounts-of-godly-trauma]

wotw round 1

propaganda under the cut!

shen qingqiu:

Okay first a quick intro: Shen Qingqiu / Shen Yuan is the main character of SVSSS, and his deal is that he's a guy from the modern world who wakes up in the novel he read, in the body of one of the characters. Shen Yuan is his name in his original world, while Shen Qingqiu is the name of the character he became - that he uses for himself for most of the novel.

Now, what happened to him… The thing is, at the core of his woobification are his actual canon traits, but some fans really crank them up to the point where it becomes a disservice to the character. So you never know when someone saying "oh Shen Qingqiu is so oblivious" means "due to several intersecting factors Shen Qingqiu has some extremely specific blindspots regarding certain topics" (which is just true) or "haha Shen Qingqiu could get kissed by a man and still not realize that man has romantic feelings for him" (just one variation of the sentiment, but one i find particularly bewildering considering. in canon. a man kissing him was exactly what made Shen Qingqiu realize that man was actually in love with him. like my dudes the bar is low but its there!).

Stumbling into this second version in fic was funny a first few times, but now it's like… I genuinely can't tell whether any particular author is overplaying it for comedy, or genuinely believes the character is That dumb.

Also ppl often severely underestimate his power level. Like idk if that's because they compare him to the characters he often hangs out with, who are those genius top-of-the-world experts (despite him outpacing literally everyone else he ever fought against), or because of how he bungled his first-ever case (like, you know, two weeks after waking up in a whole NEW BODY, in a different world), or because he tends to downplay his own strength and also tries to avoid killing people… but like, this man took a technique that in the original was just "aesthetic and interesting" and developed it into something that could be super deadly within weeks, he's just not using it that way. And he also fixed og Shen Qingqiu's broken cultivation within the first few months of being in that body. So he's actually extremely talented and pretty strong, he just spends most of the book either nerfed by external factors (such as poison that disables his spiritual energy at random times) or surrounded by veritable powerhouses.

And this is for Shen Yuan-as-Shen Qingqiu. But the version that drives me completely up the wall is actually the portrayal of just Shen Yuan - in fanworks where he either never gets transported to the world of the novel, or wakes up as a different character. Because suddenly the traits that already get unduly amplified with Shen Qingqiu version become straight up caricature-like. He's not only oblivious to the extreme, he also gets painted as this completely naive soft babyboi (this is about a guy whose most well-known pre-transmigration canon trait is that he writes famously vitriolic rants about novels on the internet); plus, like, on the physical level, super frail and waifish which uh. wow. nice walking right back into the BL tropes the novel itself avoided?…… So yeah I'm super not keen on this portrayal. I know he doesn't appear as not-Shen Qingqiu version of himself in the novel, if we don't count the rant in the beginning, but like. please extrapolate from the character we actually have instead of writing this mega-woobie who shares nothing with the base version?

Terrible little bastard man who has a sad backstory but is actually genuinely a terrible person. Fans like to act like he is just a soft sad boi deep inside and make him lose all of his edge.

So the thing about Shen Jiu / og!Shen Qingqiu in canon is that we first learn of him as an unquestionably, almost cartoonishly villainous character. As in, he is literally a villain in the book our main character has been reading… before dying and waking up in the world of the book, as that very villain (hence the distinction of Shen Jiu being the "original" Shen Qingqiu, as our main character begins to use the name Shen Qingqiu for himself. Shen Jiu, however, is an old name that only the original has used). The original Shen Qingqiu that our main character knows is a serial child abuser in a teaching position, a murderer (killed his colleague, killed his old fiancee's entire family…), and a lecher (visited brothels and had designs on his female disciple).

Then, over the course of the novel, we learn more about Shen Jiu - in particular, that a number of things our MC "knew" about him were not true. He did not kill his colleague, but rather failed to save him, despite trying to; he killed his "fiancee"'s family because her older brother has abused him for years (and also, Shen Jiu was forced into agreeing to marry her), and also he only actually killed half of them (only men); he visited brothels because he only felt safe in the company of women, and he just went there to get a good night's sleep; and he only ever saw that female disciple he was accused of lusting after as a daughter. And in general, he had a horrible childhood, and was himself a victim of abuse.

However, not everything gets disproved. Shen Jiu still turned from a victim to perpetrator, abusing a child (coincidentally the protagonist of the og book) and trying to set him up to die/be killed several times. Canon is very clear on that point. The situation with Shen Jiu and the og book version of the protagonist is very much an illustration of cycles of abuse.

Also at a certain point, we meet the author of the in-world book, the one our MC was reading - who explains he scrapped Shen Jiu's tragic backstory because it would make him too controversial. Quoting from memory, something like: 'if you said he was a villain, he was also tragic; but if you said he was pitiful, he'd also done terrible things. All in all, a character like this was a hotbed for all kinds of fandom discourse.'

Prophetic fucking words.

Somehow, seeing all that, some 'fans' have decided to jump into a completely opposite direction: making Shen Jiu a poor little misunderstood meow meow who did nothing wrong ever and was a soft princess and totally was never mean to the protagonist ("the protagonist just has inflated sense of ego and misunderstood Shen Jiu's normal teaching as singling him out for abuse" was a take I had to see with my own two eyeballs. Theres btw an extra from Shen Jiu's pov where he laments that the fake manual he gave the kid has failed to horrifically kill him yet).

Which puts the rest of us in an awkward position of having to defend his canon assholery. Like, the whole point of this character is that he's complex! That he's both a villain and a victim! Reducing him to just one is doing him a disservice, and either extreme is equally incorrect! And this is something that happens with many similar characters, I know, but what boggles my mind about Shen Jiu's case in particular is that. it's spelled out. The whole deal with his character is spelled out in canon. And some people still go "oh so Shen Jiu was secretly the most morally pure and good character, got it". Like. how?????????????? ??? ?? ?????

noriaki kakyoin:

Uke-fied to the max so he can be shipped with jotaro lol

Ohmygod where do I even start. Kakyoin's the poster boy for twinkification and woobification of a canonically very capable, interesting (and not twinky at all) character who's so many things at once- a loyal friend, really smart, a bit of a weirdo, infodumping trivia at random times, quick-thinking in dangerous situations, reckless, polite and respectful, vengeful towards enemies but always kind to friends, depressed, determined and motivated in the face of mortal danger despite it all - even when he had the chance to leave the Stradust Crusaders and just come back to his normal life, he decided to stick with them. This decision eventually cost him his life since he got killed by Dio, the main villain. The fandom either calls him a cardboard with no personality (which is not true at ALL, where did that take even come from) or they downplay his canon badassery- Jotaro x Kakyoin shippers are often guilty of this along with twinkifying Kakyoin. The ship is fine, but they're way more interesting if you take into account their canon characterisation as huge weirdos who somehow work pretty well together- they're both different flavors of autistic that sometimes just so happen to align on the same wavelength.

[the-bitterest-breakups-poll]

Poll: Round 1c #7

[ Image ID. An image of the first volume cover of The scum villain's self-saving system, and an image of the poster for Major Grom: Plague Doctor. End ID]

*Reminder that Break up is being used loosely here and not all relationships may be romantic in nature

Propaganda under cut:

Shen Qingqiu and Yue Qingyuan:

<tw: child abuse, slavery, torture>

- Child slaves who bonded very closely with each other through shared trauma. Ended up kind of feral about each other.

- Shen Jiu ended up being bought by a rich asshole solely for the purpose of making his life hell, after he saved Yue Qi from being trampled by said rich asshole’s horse.

- Yue Qi tries to save him over and over again, but fails every time, eventually runs away to become a cultivator and promises he will come back.

- Three years later, Shen Jiu snaps and kills the rich asshole and his family and runs off to apprentice under a notorious criminal. He assumes Yue Qi is dead.

- A year after that, he finds out that Yue Qi is not dead, but instead the head disciple of a cultivation sect, now known as Yue Qingyuan. Shen Jiu is very upset finding out that Yue Qi had abandoned him.

- Yue Qingyuan gets Shen Jiu a place in the sect, and eventually he becomes the second in command of the sect, while Yue Qingyuan is the leader.

- They don’t become friends again, even though their positions require them to interact. Instead, any time they have a conversation, they part on bad terms within five lines of dialogue.

- Shen Jiu, now Shen Qingqiu, kind of ends up being a terrible person because he has no idea how to cope with his trauma and is constantly lashing out. Yue Qingyuan tries his best to reconcile and accommodate him to the point where he often turns a blind eye to Shen Jiu’s actions.

- Eventually, Shen Jiu ends up imprisoned and tortured by his former disciple Luo Binghe as retribution for his abuse. Luo Binghe uses Shen Jiu to set a trap for Yue Qingyuan, and Yue Qingyuan dies very badly, which is what ends up completely breaking Shen Jiu.

- Later, you find out that Yue Qingyuan hadn’t abandoned Shen Jiu, but instead he had tried so hard to get strong enough to come back to save him that he ended up very nearly dying, going through horrific trauma of his own. By the time he got out of the cave he had been trapped in, he went to get Shen Jiu but found the estate burned down and assumed that his old friend was dead.

- They could be interpreted romantically or just as friends, but their breakup kind of ended up basically causing the destruction of the world over an awful misunderstanding.

- Anyway I am very feral over them.

Igor Grom and Sergey razumovski:

It's a friendship breakup! Except neither of them had made a friend in a long time so they didn't *realize* they were friends even though it was super obvious and other characters saw it. [SPOILERS FROM HERE] The unsaid made the breakup worse when Igor (the cop trying to catch the Plague Doctor (who makes some good points but goes about it in a bad way, like many movie villains)) finally understood that the Plague Doctor was Sergey. But neither of them knew that it was actually Sergey's alter personality. So Igor thought the Plague Doctor was Sergey's best friend, then learned that the guy had been dead for years, then went to see Sergey fully convinced that it was yet someone else, *anyone else*, that Sergey could help him find. Meanwhile Sergey had offered Igor his help to catch the Plague Doctor, and was happy to see his new friend come see him, just to learn that said new friend now suspects him of being a terrorist (give him a break T_T) The messy part is that Sergey immediately crashes a bottle on Igor's skull, then regrets it because he thought he killed his friend, then, because obviously Igor's not dead, sets him up so that Igor's colleagues think that *Igor* is the Plague Doctor and throw him in jail. When of course Igor breaks out and goes to confront Sergey (without any backup, because he doesn't want to endanger his two allies who are now the closest he's got to friends), they talk with their fists. And the furniture in the room. And also flamethrowers. It's messy. At some point during the fight Igor's plan is to throw both of them, Sergey and himself, together, from the window. Which he does. They're on the top floor of a skyscraper. That is such a reasonable, thought-out, restrained reaction to being disappointed by someone (/ironic). They only survive because other people catch them.

[myths-tournaments]

Awful Characters Round 2 Part 1 (5/8)

Propaganda under the cut!

SHEN JIU

YES he abused a child and killed an entire manor of people, but it was probably only one child and allegedly the people sucked. Surely this is not behavior deserving of being turned into a human stick or having your body possessed by a weeb. I love him because sometimes mean people are fun and also who can resist a good redemption tale (he deserves one).

BENNY GECKO

The first thing that happens in new vegas is that benny fucking shoots your character in the face, steals your shit and leaves you in an open grave. Benny is by all accounts a bastard. He kills you, steals from you, he killed his last boss, he is the single most duplicitous man around. His gang are all about honesty- except him. He's a lying, cheating bastard. The guys who helped him catch you? He skipped on paying them and left them to get shot to death. His new boss, mr.house? He stole his robot, broke it open, got someone to reprogram it and decided to use it to TAKE OVER THE WHOLE OF VEGAS. Benny literally kills people, lies to people, steals their shit and takes charge. That's all benny does. He gets fucking CRUCIFIED if you don't help him out just because so many people fucking hate him. And yet. And yet. Benny is the single most compelling character in the whole game to me. He's just a little guy! He's just there! You can get shot in the head and come back and he goes "what in the goddamn" and then if you try and flirt with him he's like "uhhh sure? Okay?" And leaves you a polite note in the morning. He's fancy. He wears a stupid suit. He has a tiny gun with shitty bullets. He's catholic. He talks like an old timey news presenter. Literally nobody else in the entire game does that. He's got an intelligence of 3. He's my funtime boy. My silly little man. He's so funny. The antagonist in this game is a guy dressed like a tablecloth who looks at all times like a confused dog who doesn't understand what a tv is. And like. He's compelling. He robs from you, shoots you, but…. he never seems to actually wish you harm. He kills and robs and lies but like. He apologises for doing it to you. When he sees you again he doesn't attack you, he's just… confused. He tries to defuse the situation. You can convince him to talk to you, alone, with no guards and it's not that hard. If you spare his life, he doesn't go after you, like. Even if you sleep with him he doesn't take advantage of that and kill you, even if you try to. He… he just leaves. He gives you an apology. If he gets kidnapped by Caesar He just… apologizes again. He tells you his whole plan to take over the city, too. He thinks he'll die, and he wants something of him to survive. He's happy that you made it. And if you let him free, he just… leaves. He knows he's beat, he doesn't want to cause any more trouble. He walks out and leaves. The NCR will kill you if you cross them. The legion will crucify you. House? He'll blow you the fuck up. But benny, the guy who lies and cheats and schemes, he's honest. He's polite. He's… harmless. You can kill him with a single shot if you want. And he can't kill you. He doesn't kill you the first time, and he'll never really hurt you again. Benny just wanted to win. When he knows he's beat he just leaves. No lingering, no harm, he's off, off into the desert heat, and never seen again. Isn't that just insane? like have you ever known an antagonist so polite? He just leaves!! He offers you a drink!! His plan is genuinely probably the best one for the people of new vegas!!! He's. Benny is Benny.

Anyway if you want to see some REAL propaganda go to the blog @letmebegaytodd and look in the #benny tag. You'll Understand < https://www.tumblr.com/letmebegaytodd/717051175751614464/in-another-life-i-wouldve-really-liked-just> <- look at this shit man

[idkman-ijustwannamakeatournament]

Round 1: Match 7

"Two Sides of the Same Coin"- Two things that are regarded as part of the same thing. Even if they're very different, they have at least one common thread that helps them fit into this trope.

Propaganda (under the cut):

Akira Kurusu and Goro Akechi

"Pitted against each other by a cruel god as his playthings. Both had their lives altered by the same man. They both have the power to summon more than one persona, but while Joker hs multiple and also a whole team of friends to support him, Akechi only has two and is alone. Akechi is the foil to all of the Phantom Thieves, him being the version of them that used the powers of their Persona to exact his revenge, instead of reforming the people they went after."

Original Shen Qingqiu (Shen Jiu) and Original Luo Binghe (Bingge):

"Shen Jiu and Luo Binghe portray the cycle of violence within the in-text novel Proud Immortal Demon Way. Shen Jiu was abused as a slave & unintentionally abandoned by the person he trusted most. He only escaped by burning the mansion down, killing all the men inside. He later joined Cang Qiong Mountain Sect but grew envious of Luo Binghe, who is overflowing with talent, since he, Shen Jiu, was unable to cultivate until later in life. He also gains a lecherous reputation due to his inability to sleep around men causing him to frequent brothels.

Luo Binghe joined Cang Qiong Mountain Sect as an orphan (abandoned by his birth parents & lost his adoptive mother). He excels even despite Shen Jiu's abuse, but once his Heavenly Demonic blood is revealed, Shen Jiu casts him into the Abyss, where he relies on a demonic sword to survive. When he returns, he gets brutal revenge on all those who wronged him, becoming Emperor of the world and forming a Harem with hundreds(?) of women.

However, both of them are unhappy! Neither of them form/keep meaningful relationships or are fulfilled with their lives. SVSSS's entire thesis revolves around nuture over nature - having someone treat you with kindness and not cruelty."

[web-novel-polls]

Is it too late to submit propaganda for Shen Jiu? If not:

He is a tragedy incarnate. He's got a tragic backstory, lives a tragic life, and meets a tragic end. Yeah, he's a child abuser and kind of a piece of shit, and being horrifically traumatized doesn't excuse that, but have you considered: He's my baby boy.

Propaganda can be submitted at any point! I reblog posts under the tag "propaganda" and "[character name] propaganda." Thanks for sending some in!

Edit: put... put on the dunce cap on me for realsies... Shen Jiu's last poll closed today (Dec. 4th) after this ask came in. Sorry, I was busy today and didn't get to this, but you did everything right!

[fun-mxtx-polls]

E'ming vs. Xuan Su

E'ming propaganda:

I just had to come here and wax poetically about E-Ming. Not only is he a) a deadly scimitar that can and has defeated gods, b) the legendary weapon of the strongest ghost king, and c) made USING that ghost king’s eye, he’s also the goodest boy to have ever existed.

He’s basically a puppy dog in sword form and he just wants love and pets. He’s so expressive and adorable that Xie Lian completely ignore all warnings to avoid him to instead treat him like the puppy he is.

Plus there’s his creation story! (Spoilers for TGCF). Back when Hua Cheng was still a weak ghost on Mount Tonglu, he chose to pretext a group of lost mortals by ripping out his eye and forging E-Ming as a weapon. It was a dangerous and risky choice that could have forever separated Hua Cheng from Xie Lian, but he still did it simply because he cares more about others than he likes to admit. E-Ming represents Hua Cheng’s weakness and humanity and even though Hua Cheng resents him for that, Xie Lian loves him for it all the same.

Therefore E-Ming is a) a badass sword, b) an adorable puppy who deserves love, and c) a physical representation of who Hua Cheng is and how he and Xie Lian perceive him. E-Ming is precious and deserves all the votes (and pets)!

Also he just looks really, really cool too! (submitted by @alittlelessalone)

e'ming is babie!!!!!

Xuan Su propaganda:

Xuan Su means "Dark and solemn". Yue Qingyuan's sword, vitality important to his backstory. Its so strong that few cultivators can even stand when he pulls it out, even by a sliver. It drain's yqy's lifeforce in exchange for incredible amounts of power! It wasn't even drawn fully during the sealing of Tianlang-jun, and was instrumental to his defeat. Even pidw Bingge couldn't defeat him one-on-one!

i haven't been able to get 'Xuan Su is YQY's erectile dysfunction' out of my head for multiple days and I have one thing to say about it: it's SO funny, please let Xuan Su win so that this extremely powerful, OP, life ending sword can instead be known as YQY's limp dick. (submitted by @valiantbarnes)

Xuan Su is quite possibly the strongest sword on this list. It is so powerful that when Yue Qingyuan first got it, he was forced (via many broken bones) into secluded meditation in a cave for YEARS to prevent a deadly qi deviation, preventing him from saving Shen Jiu, destroying their relationship. And even once YQY grew to be the most powerful cultivator in the world (Bingge couldn't even kill him without an ambush) he still couldn't draw it without it sapping years off of his life every time. YQY had to carry two swords for his entire life because his first sword could and would kill him if given the chance.

Also, in PIDW, after Bingge killed YQY and Xuan Su shattered, Bingge used the shards to taunt Shen Qingqiu and SQQ swallows the shards to kill himself. Imagine swallowing the shards of a sword that belonged to your beloved childhood friend turned kind-of boss who missed you so much even when you were right there and for whom you feel so much bitterness and longing and yet cared for so much that news of his death is the only thing that could have broken you, even after years of horrific torture. The drama of that alone should win it some points, I think. (submitted by @slythavakna)

[morethanwonderful]

The Semifinals Have Begun! The Which MXTX Character Was/Would Be Most Insufferable Online Tournament Bracket

For an explanation of what this poll's deal is or links to completed matches, look here.

Since there were only 4 matches last round, and your dear poll-runner is tired and overworked, I'm going to pass on the wrap-up stats this time (though I will have whole-poll stats for the final). Instead, I just want to take a quick moment to say thanks! Running this tournament has been a blast so far, and I love reading y'all's propaganda in my notes :).

Here's hoping we can keep this fun energy going as we enter

The Semifinals:

Wen Chao vs Qi Rong

Shen (Jiu) Qingqiu vs Luo Binghe

Happy voting :).

[jerktournament]

ROUND ONE - Astarion (Baldur’s Gate 3) VS Shen Jiu (The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System)

!!! PROPAGANDA BELOW !!!

ASTARION: "He's charming and likes to twist people around his little finger, but Astarion can also be very direct if he thinks you're an idiot."

SHEN JIU: "To explain... A penniless orphan child: my late mom would be happy if I went to school :) Shen Jiu, formerly also a penniless orphan child, now a teacher: oh so you had a mom who loved you? fuck you *attempts to indirectly kill a child in question several times*"

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

PROPAGANDA UNDER THE CUT: [SPOILERS AND POSSIBLE TRIGGERS AHEAD]

SHEN JIU//ORIGINAL SHEN QINGQIU:

VERGIL: