#shuro

[phantomoftheshoppera]

Shuro: You used black magic to bring back Falin, are you stupid?!

Laios: hey what the fuck is your problem man?

Senshi:

[soranatus]

Laios’s memory Vs. Shuro’s memory Delicious in Dungeon: “Harpy/Chimera”

[neo--queen--serenity]

Shuro talks a lot of shit for someone who just subjected Laios to one of the funniest examples of emotional whiplash I’ve ever seen.

He went from this:

To this:

Within the span of what?? An hour?? Less??

Yeah, sure. It’s completely normal to swing violently from “you disgust me I hate everything about you,” to “if you’re in danger ring this bell, and I’ll immediately get someone to to transport you to my country—where I have a great amount of power and influence—so that you can be safe forever.”

Poor Laios just went through a mixed signals marathon at the hands of this man, can you possibly blame him for misinterpreting Shuro’s behavior up to this point??

[savaralyn2]

Dungeon Meshi - Concept Ending Sketches (2/1)

[n-arts-hideaway]

The newest dunmesh episode really hit.

The fact that Shuro ridicules Laios for the very same traits he loves Falin for. This is a very common phenomenon with male vs female autistics.

Let me explain.

I am an autistic woman. My best friend is an autistic man. People are generally drawn to me at first because they are romanticizing my autistic traits into the “manic pixie dream girl” trope. To them, I’m quirky, funny, free spirited, “not like other girls”. It usually doesn’t last long though, because when they get to know me it becomes less charming. But I still have the advantage in first-time social interaction.

My male best friend on the other hand, is constantly targeted for his autistic traits. Traits that are IDENTICAL to mine. Let me be clear, we are EXTREMELY similar. He is the male version of me. People think he’s off-putting and weird (even though he’s wonderful).

Shuro is clearly in love with the IDEA of Falin. He’s in love with the romanticized version of her, but he doesn’t really KNOW her.

[sansan9]

[brickiebrickie]

They were so insane for this actually

[daisukoth]

"Shuro loved Falin for reasons he hated Laios" i feel like im going insane. no he didnt. he hated Laios for personality traits Falin doesn't show; being dense, having no tact, annoying him with his interests. you dont even know why the fuck Shuro liked Falin. All you know is he saw her looking at a caterpillar (she didnt fucking eat it)

[casualfruit]

Shuro’s lack of self awareness is kind of incredible. You’re seriously gonna propose to a woman whose brother you find extremely irritating, when said brother is her work partner and one of her best friends? How exactly do you think that’s gonna work out?? Not to mention the fact that he never directly told her he had any kind of feelings for her, and then suddenly popped the question??? My brother in dungeoneering PLEASE

[prosciuttoon]

"it feels like we were pretty close,... so i figured toshiro and i would end up the same way as those two."

oh girl if only you knew. how bad it really is.

context below the cut 👇

this comic was inspired by hien's adventurer bible comic, where she wonders why her and toshiro didnt end up together despite being close as kids:

that panel in particular where shes kinda bullying him in her classic Hien way but he takes it as actual mean-ness... i like to think Hien's humour is kinda joke bullying her friends, and in some friend groups that's just the vibe (like her and benchidori "bullying" each other so bluntly, but its all jokes)! but other friend groups dont do that! shiro doesn't relate to that kind of humour. his feelings were actually hurt even if she may have had 100 layers of irony and no real ill intentions behind it. she probably didnt understand what it would do to a young boy to belittle him for crying... she fumbled a soft man w her sharp personality

also:

[sugar-grigri]

How about an analysis of Dunmeshi's latest episode?

What I find really interesting, and episode 17 made me realize it, is the extent to which Laios and Shuro are the opposite of what they portray, even worse: the image they might portray is actually that of the other.

Let me explain :

How does Shuro see Laios ? As someone stubborn and thoughtless, disconnected from reality to the point of using black magic to resurrect his little sister.

We know that Shuro would have made the same choice, which shows that even if he tries to deny it, there is a point of connection between them.

The key to these similarities and differences is Falin.

What Shuro loves about Falin is the tenderness in her every gesture, her compassion and understanding of every creature, and her smile.

When he sees this monster kill in cold blood, he realizes the extent to which he has lost his loved one, which is why he chooses to kill her to free his soul, thinking he has lost her.

But what Shuro doesn't realize is that he's exactly what he's blaming Laios for: he's stubborn and reckless, not realizing the danger and sacrifices his teammates are making for the sake of this mission.

He's also disconnected from reality, not caring about himself, his hunger or his fatigue.

Above all, and this is very interesting, Laios had said that he hadn't perceived that Shuro couldn't stand him because he was so happy to have him as a friend, that he hadn't detected any of these signals.

Shuro shares this blindness

Shuro repeats that this monster is not Falin, yet he sees her as such, to the point of embarrassment when the monster removes her blouse.

And that's the opposite of Laios, who sees his sister as the monster she is

Like the chimera Falin has become, he sees his little sister calling him and this super-cool monster.

He's the one with his feet firmly on the ground, he's the one who really cares about his team, taking care of himself and those around him through balanced meals.

The one who understands that Falin has many vital points, rather than allowing himself to be overwhelmed by despair, is Laios.

So when Shuro hits Laios, in reality he's not hitting a man who differs from him, he's hitting his own flaws, and his own failure in the situation.

This failure he projects onto Laios, a man brimming with flaws.

Not only does Laios reason with him, but if Shuro ends up taking the wiser path, it's also because he's literally fought against himself.

But it all goes even further!

Shuro realized his feelings, or rather how unique Falin was in her tenderness and altruism, towards every being, even the smallest.

But what set this whole cycle in motion was Falin's self-sacrifice, her own death.

Laios and Marcille are responsible for what follows, but they are not responsible for everything, as Shuro tries to believe.

Shuro refuses the truth

So he doesn't see Falin

He couldn't accept that her tenderness had led to his death

Nor that her tenderness gave way to extreme coldness and indifference

He won't accept his own blindness

So he hits Laios and his extreme sincerity that irritates him so much

Shuro can't see anything in the darkness of this dungeon, he's the one who's lost his footing so he has to get back up again

Laios has accepted to see everything, even the unavowable, the forbidden, the pain.

What Shuro sees in Falin is love

In Laios, what he sees is the truth

In reality, Laios has only told part of the truth; he is the other half.

But if he goes back up, it's not to abandon Falin, Shuro has to face reality, the truth, that Laios was the only one who could save his beloved. It was by fighting that he finally put his trust in Laios. And finally became a friend

[endykelopaedia]

that laios/shuro (toshiro?) argument means a lot to me because on one hand i have been laios and i have been excited to be around people who just would. not. say. that they didnt like me around until they did it in a way that was incredibly painful and confusing when that could have been easily avoided by a short conversation at the time of offense.

on the other hand i have been shuro experiencing that naive racism from someone who doesn't know much outside his bubble & its really hard to confront directly because its not coming from a bad place necessarily, but it is truly drenched in the racial biases that a culture has baked in. and that can be very exhausting to try and explain to someone after being bombarded by such, especially if they seem completely unaware of it being a problem.

its a situation where both characters are sympathetic to me, at least a little.

[friendly-jester]

i love that the others are all healing and reviving the others while shuro and laios are beating the absolute shit out of each other lmaooo

[savaralyn2]

Dungeon Meshi - Concept Ending Sketches (1/2)

[listles-s]

man laios and toshiro's/shuro's dynamic is incredibly compelling to me on multiple levels

when you look at them, you can see the cultural and personal barriers that drive almost every single aspect of their relationship, both positively and negatively. laios is incredibly outspoken and driven by his passions, which he expresses freely even in the face of annoyance and/or criticism- he's allowed to be as authentically himself as he pleases, and it's this drive that allows him and the others to survive as long as they have, especially due to the fact that these passions and interests are intertwined with his skills as a dungeon diver. toshiro, in contrast, is incredibly reserved, not only due to his eastern upbringing but also his status as nobility- a combo of cultures that both demand that one save face, to avoid conflict at any cost, even at the expense of one's own feelings and individuality. this, in turn, has made toshiro the perfect samurai, as he's politely-spoken, agreeable, and an honorable, skilled man. both are also incredibly devoted to falin on different levels, having come to accomplish the same mission of her rescue despite drifting apart from the party.

on the flipside, it's these same strengths that cause them to clash- laios is outspoken but unable to truly decipher the emotions of others, leading to a lot of false assumptions and frustration from those who interact with him. toshiro is stoic but to the point of complacency, leading to a aggressively neutral disposition that's ushered by the needs and wants of others, rather than himself. neither man truly knows where they stand with the people important to them in their lives, and hold the ones that they do know how they feel with a fierce admiration expressed in ways that aren't always traditional.

in the end, they both share a growing feeling of isolation from other people that comes to a head when they meet again in the depths of the dungeon, and they both have different ways of coping with the frustrations that arise, seeing the other as only the things they have seen face to face.

it's laios' ability to express himself emotionally without consequence that sparks jealousy in toshiro, leading to a physical fight born out of miscommunication and envy. while toshiro is a driving force in the conflict, it should be noted that the actual fight is started by laios, breaking the dam of indirect communication through force. nothing is more direct than a slap to the face, and it's only after they start hitting each other that toshiro's true feelings come to light.

however, at the end of it all, toshiro is the one who stops torturing himself, listening to laios and giving him the bell, allowing laios and his party entrance into his homeland should they need it, and ultimately giving him support in his mission to defeat the dungeon mage, albeit in his own way. despite it all, they're still good friends with a conflict that boiled over, but came out the other end with a slightly better understanding of each other. the fight was painful for both of them, but it was a necessity for their dynamic to improve, and for them to be made aware of their faults and improve as individuals as well.

but also, if you think about it, their dynamic is literally just this

[halfdeadhalfdrunk]

This entire scene for Kabru was like that one bit in Disco Elysium where you sit in a chair in Evrart's office. My boy is making increasingly difficult Composure and Pain Threshold checks