#tanzsaal

[faytalepsy]

Wunschtraum und Wirklichkeit

Still absolutely obsessed with Tanz der Vampire.

[mangledpuppet]

they r so cute

[serotoninebat]

HE'S PLAYING WITH HERBERT'S HAIR

[unscharf-an-den-raendern]

Schloss Einstein Folge 1067

Annika und Marlon haben eine Mission: Beim Ausflug ins Stasi-Unterlagen-Archiv Joshua keine Sekunde aus den Augen lassen. Los, Joshi! Du schaffst das!

Avas Bruder Patrick kommt zu Besuch - durchs Fenster.

Bei Frau Miesbach geht es heute darum, was man bei einer Flucht aus der DDR mitgenommen hätte und jede:r soll sich Gedanken machen. Noah ist auch dabei.

Im Stasi-Unterlagen-Archiv darf man keine Handys mitnehmen und Joshi und Chiara müssen sich was einfallen lassen. Let's go autistic besties!

SIMON LASS AVA ENDLICH IN RUHE! Die braucht bald ne einstweilige Verfügung gegen ihn.

Simon, Ava trägt ein Hemd in den Farben der Lesbian Pride Flag. Take a hint.

JOEL!

Tahmi Lore: Sie hat einen kleinen Bruder.

SIMON HÖR AUF AVA ZU STALKEN!

SIMON HÖR AUF AVA HEIMLICH ZU FILMEN DAS IST IN DEUTSCHLAND ILLEGAL!

Joshi hat es geschafft und ist heimlich an die Stasi-Akte von Gabriele Knauer gelangt. Go Joshi! Go Joshi!

Dabei wird er allerdings von Marlon beobachtet. Der hat einen Plan: Er will Joshi seine leckeren Käsebrote andrehen, währenddessen vertauscht Annika die Umschläge. Marlon und seine Ausstechbrote. Nenne ein ikonischeres Duo.

Wenn Joshua die Akte klaut ist das natürlich schlimm, aber wenn Marlon und Annika das tun nicht. Joshi hat nichts falsch gemacht! Justice for Joshua!

SIMON DU ARSCHLOCH!

Natürlich hat er das Video hochgeladen und jetzt können alle sehen, wie Ava mit ihrem Bruder tanzt.

Joshi Lore: Er mag keinen Käse.

PATRICK DU ARSCHLOCH! ER HAT DAS VIDEO ÜBERALL GETEILT!

Ava, Sweetie, I'm so sorry!

NOAH HAT DIE KINOKARTEN IMMER NOCH!

Ava hat von Joel gelernt: Sie nennt ihren Bruder jetzt auch zwei Mal "Arsch".

Team Maxi und Team Joshi müssen feststellen, dass sie beide den Plan des jeweils anderen vereitelt haben und daher jetzt keiner von ihnen im Besitz der Akte ist.

Stattdessen hat Elly sie jetzt nämlich.

Ava sitzt allein im Tanzsaal und ist traurig. Nicht auch noch Ava, ey! Letzte Staffel hat Julia sie schon enttäuscht. Jetzt ihr Bruder.

Doch dann kommt Patrick und wir kriegen ***Ava und Patrick Deeptalk***. Er entschuldigt sich und sagt Ava, dass er sie braucht: Er hat keinen Bock auf den zweiten Teil von "Rise of Hell", hat aber ein anderes Angebot - einen Tanzfilm. Dafür braucht er ein Castingvideo mit einer eigenen Choreo und Tanzpartnerin. Und dafür könnte er sich keine bessere Tanzpartnerin wünschen als Ava. Du hast sie damals einfach ersetzt! Ava ist aber genervt, weil Patrick immer nur an sich denkt und nie daran, was sie eigentlich will.

Patrick hat Ava daher etwas für ihr Projekt besorgt: Ein Buch über Leistungsdruck in der DDR. Sie läuft ihm hinterher: "Hast du nicht was vergessen? Man sagt bitte wenn man etwas möchte." Ava willigt jetzt doch ein, Patrick zu helfen, aber nur unter einer Bedingung: Keine Social Media Posts und nur dieses eine Mal. SIMON WAG ES JA NICHT!

Patrick ist froh: "Ich liebe dich! Du wirst es nicht bereuen!". Ava dagegen: "Ich bereue es jetzt schon."

Bin jetzt offiziell #1 Simon Hater.

HALT WARTE ES GIBT NE POST CREDIT SCENE WO ALLE IHRE GEDANKEN ZUM THEMA FLUCHT TEILEN!

[und-dann-war-es-fast-gut]

Wir haben in zwei Outtakes-Szenen das gleiche Outfit bei Ava. Das kann natürlich Zufall sein, aber wenn es der gleiche Tag ist, dann haben wir also eine Szene zu dritt mit Ava, Noah und Joel im Tanzsaal und eine mit nur Ava und Noah im Keller.

Ich denke, dass die Szenen Teil von Joels “perfekter Idee” sind die beiden zu versöhnen. So eine Vertrauensübung “ich lass mich fallen, du fängst mich auf” ergibt da ja Sinn. Ich habe übrigens die Vermutung, dass Joel von Noah nicht aufgefangen wird, so wie Philip es bei Samuel gemacht hat.

Aber Noah scheint sich zu isolieren. Davor, danach, währenddessen? Und Ava findet ihn/läuft ihm nach, obwohl sie ja eigentlich streiten. Also hoffe ich einfach mal auf eine weitere “Ava drückt die richtigen Knöpfe und Noahs Schale reißt ein wenig weiter ein”-Szene.

[colleyuriko]

Tanz der Vampire, Hamburg, 21.12.23, 19:30

Graf von Krolock - Rob Fowler

Professor Abronsius - Till Jochheim

Alfred - Vincent Van Gorp

Chagal - Oleg Krasovitskii

Herbert - Jonas Steppe

Koukol - Alexander Ruttig

Sarah - Sandra Bitterli

Magda - Anja Backus

Rebecca - Carina Nopp

Tanzsolisten: Paolo Valenti / Andrea Giola / Kezia Coulson

Gesangssolisten: Lorenzo Di Girolamo / Simon Loughton

Ensemble: Jessie Vos, Frederik Stuhllemmer, Keny Oslen, Ian Vrolijk, Artem Salastelnyk, Demi Hubers, Nicole Klünsner, Rachel Bahler, Anne Hoth, Carina Fitzi, Chloe Lee Hill, Alice Giammerioli, Ginevra Serra Cassano

Orchester: Stage Operettenhaus, Dirigent: Martin Gallery

I had such a good time. I'm dumping my thoughts behind the readmore.

Everyone was fantastic, I was really curious to hear Rob Fowler as the new von Krolock and Anja Backus as Magda live especially.

The stage in Hamburg appeared a bit narrow compared to what I've seen online from other shows, I was a bit nervous with all the capes flying around during Rote Stiefel. During Einladung zum Ball Krolock's cape caught on the door to Alfred and Abronsius' room, but it was a quick fix with a tug lol.

I was actually really amazed Sarah took Krolock's hand towards the end of Einladung zum Ball and started to rise out of the bath. And during Totale Finsternis she went in for a kiss (that didn't happen) but holy shit, this Sarah was on it.

I really enjoyed Alfred, but it only just hit me how jarring it is to have Für Sarah right before Die Gruft. One song is about how brave he'll be, but the other how he's scared. Sure you can play it off as funny and ironic, but it tripped me up a bit this time round. It was so charming to hear Für Sarah live. And bless Vincent Van Gorp for having to crawl back on stage again during Tanzsaal to grab Abronsius' helmet he needs for the quick change.

I was trying to keep my eyes on 5 different characters during Tanzsaal, I think I missed Herbert doing something to the Vampire in the blue wig's sleeves. >.< I enjoyed this Herbert. I was a bit nervous because my mother was with me and I don't quite know her opinions, but imo this Herbert was not as giggly as some I had seen in recordings and so Wenn Liebe In Dir Ist seemed less as a joke. I know we as a fandom love Herbert and you may have a different opinion, but the whole 'make the bite attempt look like SA' as the punchline of the scene and whatever Chagal and Magda have going on are the things I warn people about when I recommend the musical.

I also liked this less screechy Abronsius. I thought the sound system could have done his fast songs more justice and it's a shame that this version of the musical doesn't have Abronsius call for Alfred at the very end any more. I love the Finale, but it kicked in so suddenly I missed some of the callback to the beginning of the musical and the tragedy of it a bit.

My mother had clocked that Sarah's family was Jewish with the Menorah during Das Gebet but she asked me if it was a recent addition. I was glad I had looked into it once. As far as I understand it, Roman Polanski (who is Jewish, that's the only thing I am focusing on here) had written 'Fearless Vampire Killers' to get back at Vampire Stories being based on antisemitic stereotypes. The Satire being that Chagal was actually Jewish this time. You want a Jewish Vampire? You're getting one, that kind of attitude. I read that the film was even supposed to have a scene in it where Chagal couldn't have his coffin in the graveyard with the other vampires because he was Jewish. Even as a Vampire he would still face antisemitism, to hold a mirror up to the vampire genre, but this was deemed too controversial by the the editors or someone and it was cut out of the film (which I have never watched, btw. Didn't really want to give Polanski more of my time than I had to, because of the Reasons). So my theory is that Magda and Chagal get pushed into the crypt in a wooden box as an allusion to this cut scene. But yes, in short, the Chagal family have always been Jewish. Whether or not Tanz der Vampire succeeds in being satirical or not I cannot judge for sure. (I had the compulsion to look all of this up because Chagal singing about it's totally OK sucking other people's blood worried me... I wanted to know what place this was coming from)

I was happy that Magda and Chagal got to sing some of the "Was ist dabei..." at the end if Geil Zu Sein ist Komisch outside of the coffin as well. It gave the performers a bit more time visible on stage.

One thing I thought was a bit of a shame was that the mirrors for Wenn Liebe in Dir Ist were rather narrow and in parts obscured by a column so that it was really hard to notice the dance double playing the reflection. We were also sat right in the middle of a row looking straight ahead to the stage. I don't think my mother noticed the dance doubles in Tanzsaal, either. I knew to look out for them, but it wasn't easy to see from the middle.

Sitting right at the back we also got the full blast of the flash lighting that happened during Einladung zum Ball, Carpe Noctem, and the second Finale. It was really unpleasant. If you are light sensitive, I'm afraid this would ruin your visit to the show. I don't know how it is in other areas of seating, but it's worth asking about if you ever do want to see it and are photosensitive in any way.

I had briefed my mother beforehand that the melody she was going to hear was Total Eclipse of the Heart because I didn't want her to be thinking and wondering where she had heard it before and be distracted from taking in the show or nudging me to say what the song is.

EDIT: I just remembered, the switch from Sarah to dance double Sarah in Rote Stiefel in this Hamburg production is a magic trick. All of a sudden there were two Sarahs and I don't even know where she came from. Super cool.

I think I mentioned everything I wanted to dump down soon after seeing it.

Oh wait, I am so glad I got to see Carpe Noctem live. Black Vampire my beloved. Grateful the dancers seem to be able to freestyle to some degree. Andrea Giola didn't do that jump where Black Vampire does the splits in mid air, and I'm grateful because otherwise my mother might have brought up when I used to do gymnastics XD

Made a shirt for going, btw. Didn't quite finish, but it was wearable ^^;;

Actually, I'm just going to add this thought here too while I'm at it: I'm just so enamoured by the fact that not all performers in a musical are native speakers and will learn the songs for their role in a language that is not necessarily known to them. When I was little, I was told if I want to do anything with languages I should become a translator and my mother kept talking about politics, being an ambassador, etc. But even now I never felt that kind of job is me. I'm not saying a musical performer's job is easy, it's very demanding and takes incredible dedication, but I'm a bit sad no one ever highlighted the language aspect to me. When Drew Sarich mentions in interviews he was sent to Germany with nothing but a lead role and a language coach and now I feel like his German sounds cleaner than mine, or Ivan Ozoghin says he only had two weeks to learn the German versions for Krolock, I'm still so impressed even though I will also learn Japanese songs I like by heart like the little weeb I am. What I am trying to say is: the arts also have space and reasons to learn another language, the musical industry is more international than I had ever thought it was, and there is more to "I want to do something with languages when I grow up" than being corporate. I now have a 9-5 office job that has nothing to do with languages, but sometimes I do wonder what turns my life could have had if my parents didn't have this vision of me in a business suit.

[fitzrove]

Thank you for the video! A very astute analysis of the show’s change over the years, and how marketing played into it. As someone who has been seeing TdV on and off for fifteen years now (but mostly Hungarian-Viennese-Russian branch), it really did strike me when I saw it again after a long pandemic break a few days just how “predatory gay” trope the Herbert scene is. I guess the world was a bit different back when I was in my teens, and we were just happy to get *any* overt representation there, but that bit didn’t age well, and there sure seems to be little point to Herbert in the show at all.

That said, I always saw this as a complex story about hedonism and human nature without a protagonist, or, rather, letting the audience pick the protagonist, which is not always a bad thing. My main qualm with the show going against the theme of freedom is how passive Sarah is during the escape. For a girl who is more of less defined by agency, who manipulates so skillfully, she sure does not have much agency during the ballroom sequence. Her wants are so clear throughout (*translation dependent), but are completely absent in that moment.

Anyway, please do more videos. I am *very* curious to hear your thoughts on SE.

At the risk of going into a ramble...

When I was a youngish teenager, a group leader at a summer camp I went to sang Totale Finsternis and mentioned it was from a musical, which piqued my interest. I watched some clips from Youtube and they didn't really hold my interest at first, not at all... not before I came across what was probably this video. And then this one. And then this. I didn't speak any German at that point but I was so intrigued (as someone who loved musicals, was obsessed with fanfic and absolutely devastated at the lack of canon lgbtq rep in the types of historical/goth mainstream media I liked - it was 2016). So it's literally Wenn Liebe that originally got me into the show, even though my views on it have done a complete 180 after I grew up and started to look at what was actually going on ajfkkslf. I still think that some of the portrayals are a bit less... well, cruel - Máté Kamarás' Herbert is very earnest for the most part, which makes the portrayal feel more genuine, like the character is more than a parody, even just a little bit.

But it's still an uncomfortable scene and it's uncomfortable that the fandom reaction to it is so overwhelmingly positive even now 😅 Canon divergent fanfic is one thing (I definitely know the feeling of being so starved for lgbtq rep that you just rewrite the story to be able to have a ship), but a lot of people's takes even for the canon show amount to "he secretly likes it", which... 😭 My take still is that a lot of people ship it just to get Alfred out of the way of Krolock x Sarah. And that's annoying ahfkdk, where are the Alfred x Krolock x Sarah fics (Krolock isn't my favourite character but like, that has more canonical basis than alfbert lol)

I agree that Sarah just completely loses her agency for post-bite Tanzsaal, which is a somewhat odd choice! And I think a hedonism reading of the story is really interesting and checks out - in my video I mostly skipped over Chagal and Magda because it's a Can of Worms, but they definitely reinforce the idea that it's the central theme.

Thank you so much for the compliments and the ask!!! :D

Ajfkfk I must admit that I don't get what SE means in this context 😁😁 feel free to educate me in the notes!

[unfug-bilder]

Sorben standen schon bei den beiden, mittlerweile verbotenen Vorgängerparteien in keinem guten Ansehen. Einige sprachen gar kein Deutsch! was bis 1945 ganz besonders schlimme Folgen haben konnte.

[oldsardens]

Otto Dix - Tanzsaal in St. Pauli

[wo-der-horizont-beginnt]

The thing about the end of Tanzsaal is why does the candlestick cross work. Krolock has to have come across crosses in the wild before; the Chagal's house has paned windows and he gets in there fine, so is it intention; does Alfred or the professor believing it will work make it work? Or does a cross not working on Chagal because he's a Jewish vampire but working on Krolock mean that Krolock's a Christian vampire? Still, after 400 years of living undead? Does the cross work because of Alfred and the professor's beliefs or Krolock's?? And it makes the castle fall down, is the castle only standing because of Krolock?

[noandnooneelse]

Tdv day the last. I sat next to an absolute fuckwit who kept talking today, but ive already complained about him at length to a friend, so heres all the things i liked, because thats more worth of remembering: sarah hatten wir heute eine zweitbesetzung, und sie war gut! Sie war echt gut! Alfred leider wieder die erstbesetzung, er war mittelmäßig, abronsius und chagal immer noch schlecht (so viel zu "lets remember things i liked" but ok). Es war heute, abgesehen von den eben genannten, so gut gesungen. Totale finsternis vor allem, und unstillbare gier war so gut - also wirklich, so gut. Ich habe endlich bemerkt, wann krolock während ewigkeit hinten auf den friedhof raufkraxelt, aber wenn man nicht sehr genau hinschaut merkt man das wirklich überhaupt nicht. Von weiter weg ist es auch absolut unmöglich krolock oben auf den zinnen zu sehen, bevor er anfängt zu singen, er ist da absolut unsichtbar. He ho he die reprise ist einfach so ein verdammt cooles lied - wie sie die stimme krolocks im raum herumwerfen, das kriegt man von so weit vorne gar nicht so richtig mit, aber wenn man hinten ist - so wie die lautsprecher sind, hört es sich wirklich so an als wäre er auf einmal direkt hinter dir. Der übergang von unstillbare gier zu tanzsaal - einerseits musikalisch, es ist einfach großartig, aber auch rein optisch - sie schießen da scheinwerfer durch ????? Durch? Und der effekt, den der ganze spaß hat ist, dass es einen kranz von lichtstrahlen bildet, fast so als würde die sonne aufgehen, und es wirkt so gut. Es schaut einfach nur verdammt cool aus Ich glaub fast, tanzsaal ist mein neuer liebster teil des ganzen (zerscht wars einladung zum ball, dann wars totale finsternis, dann wars gott ist tot, jetzt ists anscheinend tanzsaal) der borchert singt das "haben wir je davon genug" immer sehr. Borchert, und nicht sehr krolock, das ist eine von den stellen die immer sehr borchert sind - will nicht heißen, dass es nicht gut gesungen wäre, aber wenn man bei ein paar von seinen weihnachtskonzerten war, dann weiß man, wie er klingt. Und so klingt krolock halt nicht, und an dieser einen stelle kommt das immer durch - heute aber überhaupt nicht!! Heute hatten wir durch die bank krolock!! (Thats the thing - imo theres krolock, and then theres borchert-singt-krolock, and the latter is also very very good, but its not exactly krolock. There are some parts of the play where you are very likely to encounter borchert-singt-krolock, wie unstillbare gier, das sehr oft außerhalb des musicals gesungen wird, und diese eine stelle in tanzsaal. However, every krolock who isnt borchert is, to me, automatically x-sings-krolock. And they are very often excellent! But thats not krolock.)

I still fucking miss alfred and sarah and krolock during the finale, its just kind of sad when they arent there. Just do a quuckchange and throw em out on the stage, wenns in wien funktioniert muss es ja auch in deutschland gehen!! But i had such a good time, and im so glad i got to go again, and now im going to go rewatch that one bootleg of 2010 vienna that definitely doesnt exist bc those things are illegal, because god, i love this musical so much

[opheliagreif]

Dirty Dancing, bitte. Wenn du magst?

Aber sehr gerne!

Adam stand am Eingang zum Tanzsaal und starrte missmutig in den hellen Raum. Musik schallte ihm entgegen und er wusste aus seiner Jugend mit Leo, dass es sich dabei um eins der Stücke aus Dirty Dancing handelte. Hungry Eyes oder so. Das erotische Lied, bei dem die komische, Melonentragende Ische und der rotzige Tanzlehrer sich nähergekommen waren.

Wundervoll. Einfach wundervoll.

Insbesondere, weil derjenige, mit dem er den Film zum ersten Mal gesehen und sich darüber lustig gemacht hatte, gerade mit ihrem Tanzlehrer, also seinem Kumpel, Freund, was auch immer von der Steuerfahndung tanzte.

Der Leo, der lachend mit Adam Hebefiguren im See geübt hatte, drehte Rainer nun mit Hüftgewackel, komischen Armbewegungen und gespannten Muskeln hin und her, sein Körper eine einzige Lockung. Es war beinahe, als würden sie Sex auf der Tanzfläche haben, ganz in sich versunken.

Adam konnte die Anziehung zwischen den beiden Männern beinahe bis hier spüren und er grollte innerlich. Leo, Mr. Stock-im-Arsch-alles-musste-nach-Vorschrift-gehen war hier ein gnadenloser Verführer, dessen Aufmerksamkeit nur ein Ziel kannte: den Doofen aus der Steuerfahndung.

Wie sich schon ihre Hüften aneinanderschmiegten, wie ihre Körper im Einklang mit der Musik und sich selbst waren. Wie sie miteinander harmonierten, aber Leo bei jedem Mal, wenn Adam hinter ihm stand, steif wie ein Brett war.

Pah.

„Soll ich schonmal eine neue Fallakte eröffnen?“, fragte Esther lakonisch hinter ihm und Adam machte einen erschrockenen Satz nach vorne, bevor er zu ihr herumfuhr. Sein Herz klopfte wie wild und er grollte nun wirklich laut.

„Was soll das heißen, Baumann?“, knirschte Adam mit den Zähnen und seine Kollegin nickte knapp in Richtung tanzender Männer, die sie immer noch nicht bemerkt hatten.

„Siehst aus, als würdest du gleich einen Mord begehen. Motiv? Eifersucht. Frage ist nur, auf Rainer oder Leo.“

„Ach fick dich doch, Baumann.“

Sie grinste lange und ausgiebig. „Oha. Ins Schwarze getroffen also.“

(P.S.: das, was Adam so abwertend als Hüftgewackel und seltsame Armbewegungen bezeichnet, ist Rumba.)

[mangledpuppet]

bite 😳

[unscharf-an-den-raendern]

Es gibt wieder neue Outtakes, darin u.a. ne Szene mit Noah und Joel in der Küche und Noah, Joel und Ava im Tanzsaal!

[eyes-like-the-night]

Tanz der vampire 3-12-2023 evening

Cast change! You could tell everyone was running on high emotions and it was the second show, still fantastic just a little more dampened than the first show and i cant blame them. Spirits were still high on stage and audience, plenty of cheering for the stunning members of the cast that were leaving. It was so amazing to be able to support the artists on their last night especially when they all were so kind throughout the week!

Everything was fantastic and so well done, i got to see my favorite ensemble costume with Annis as she was there that evening!

Also spotted some new wigs, darker one for sarah and for our lovely black vampire a wig with quite a bit of grey in the front. Assuming with that our next krolock is going to be more grey.

Many a tear was shed on stage including by filippo, i was close enough to tell, all through tanzsaal, which, with everything he’s put into the show i cant see anything but a very dedicated artist. I’m so glad i was able to see him as many times as i did, meet him, and see his last show, truly one of my favorite krolocks and completely different than any other in a way that gives such joy to the character.

Stage door was a lot of fun once again, lots of people, I ended up turned around right into Annis and got a high from her, and Laura found me to ask to see my Sarah dress again which was so sweet.

Also completely different note, Got some quick food before the second show and Mathias was there literally at the table next to us. @think-of-lotte said hi since she likes his phantom and thats how it got decided we’re also going to see him on wednesday! So one more tanz update to come! Also she got us a backstage tour so I’ll comment on that as well!

[elenavonkrolock]

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Rostislav Kolpakov in Tanzsaal - 2022