#technically just Iblis

[vin-at-thehub]

You know that meme that's like "I'm fixing it" "you ain't fixing anything" "I'm fixing it"

This is basically Iblis and his mother (Iblis as the green text)

-🌜🌛

Pfttt hell yes…

[mecha--maniac]

Dump of whatever random doodles on my phone involve Solaris; I don't remember what I've posted or not and I'm too lazy to check.

This guy is like a science experiment to me and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate that.

Some words and extra doodle or two under the cut

Basic context: I got an AU (Frostbite) where 06 is as canon-compliant (up to and through 06) as possible except I fix shit afterwards and give my own spin on some character motivations. Most stuff is just worldbuilding though. These are a tiny fraction of my Solaris stuff but I don't put much on my phone/don't post much.

Anyway brief descriptions:

1. To me Solaris is a 'sibling' of sorts to Chaos, and also has 8 forms. This is a concept for Solaris 6; essentially a Persian Simurgh. 'Perfect Solaris' would be different from the boss fight we see, although similar; the boss fight Solaris is pretty god-equivalent-to-sick and is also too busy trying to deal with fixing Time to make himself 'presentable'.

2. His design is still changing a bit, but a kind of 'mobian' version of him. One more like how I normally do things, one more Sonic-y. I do not like the Sonic-y one. Nowadays Solaris 0 is more in the middle leaning Sonic, and Solaris 1 is a bit beastier but still close to the other one.

3. After Solaris is allowed to Solaris he might occaaaasionally go hedgehog for a bit; he was one for ~211 years so he's used to it. Gonna be cunty about it though, cause he's just like that. Shadow and Sonic look a bit young (if linear progression of time applies and we say Sonic is ~14 or so for Adventure, then for me that'd mean he's at least 16 for 06, and this couldn't take place until like 2 years later so I guess he'd be a whole-ass adult by then) but maybe they're the kind of people who just have baby-faces idk

Anyway some rougher stuff that's either real early practice or I'm hemming and hawwing over making 'canon' to the AU

[tsukikoayanosuke]

"Tsuki opened up an old AU to test some color combinations and silly new design" part 2

Charlotte Luchessi by @akemiozawa

Andrea Williams by @91062854-ka

[theoutcastedartist]

"Shadows & Lights AU Antagonists - Black Doom, Lyric, Infinite, & Dr. Starline"

Same thing as the previous two, mostly just notes for myself since its probably too small to properly read on here.

The TLDR is under the cut

- Lyric is the last living Ancient and betrayed his kind to ally with Black Doom. It was their fault that the Ancients and nearly all the Black Arms got wiped out by Solaris's Wrath (Mephiles and Iblis). Gaia was saddened by this great loss and shattered the Master Emerald and Phantom Ruby in hopes of preventing this kind of occurrence from happening again, so that the next civilization may prosper. Mobians in the modern day are vaguely reminiscent of the Ancients, but are too different to be considered the same as them

-Mobians were created by Gaia's tears and the charred dirt from Solaris's fire instead, rather than the direct combined powers of Solaris and Chaos like the Ancients were (though then this technically means then that Sonic is also a hybrid like Shadow, and is not fully Mobian like his friends.)

-Lyric is still around in the modern era lurking in some Ancient Ruins and is still allied with Black Doom.

-Black Doom and his 7 War Generals were born from Mephiles the Dark's severed tongue (punishment from Chaos) and a dying star, the rest of the black arms race come from them.

-Dr. Starline rescues Infinite from near death after his mercenary squad's encounter with Team Dark (namely moreso with Shadow's deadly strength), he grants him access to some shards of the Phantom Ruby to help hunt down the Eclipse_Projects (and take his revenge on Shadow and destroy all he loves)

-Starline was once a top scientist at GUN before being discharged for theft of documents regarding the A.R.K. Facility (and the Eclipse_Projects). Eccentric and obsessed with Dr. Thorndyke's work on Project_Light. Dr. Eggman thinks he's a fucking creep in the brief time they 'work together'.

[autisticshadowthehedgehog]

The original meaning of the term "Final Girl," from 1987's "Her Body, Himself: Gender in the Slasher Film" by Carol J. Clover, was "a woman who is a sole survivor of a group who are chased by the villain, and who gets the final confrontation with said villain [whether she wins or not is not considered] because of some implied moral superiority." As an example, Jamie Lee Curtis's character of Laurie Strode in 1978's Halloween is the sole survivor of the teenagers that Michael Myers hunts, and gets the climactic scene with him, though she's not the one who defeats him. Her character is the only one of her friend group who does not (onscreen at least) partake in drugs, alcohol or sexual activity.

The term "final girl" has expanded over the years, often losing the moral superiority clause (see: Sidney Prescott in Scream, Maxine in X) or having other survivor(s) so long as the girl gets the final confrontation (the sisters in the recent Scream movies, Dana Polk in Cabin in the Woods). The most common deviation is losing the moral superiority clause, with the characters either being just as moral as their group or even being morally in the wrong but still surviving as a subversion or deconstruction of the trope. A common addition is a prior connection to the villain, though this is not necessary.

With all that being said,

As always, Girl is a gender-neutral term when it comes to having fun. I decided not to count Knuckles because we don't know his full backstory in-game and the word-of-god answer is that his species died of disease, and also because he'd be the funny answer everyone would pick immediately so that doesn't count guys.

Important Notes to Consider:

Tikal:

Last Survivor: Somewhat. Other echidnas seem to have survived Chaos's attack, but Tikal was the last character alive shown onscreen, and the only other named characters in her time period did not survive.

Final Confrontation: Applies. She is the one to seal Chaos into the Master Emerald.

Moral Superiority: Applies. She's the only one in her tribe willing to stand up to her warmongering dad.

Shadow:

Last Survivor: Applies. While some people seem to have escaped the ARK massacre (like the Commander), all other named characters are either killed or captured and killed afterwards.

Final Confrontation: Debatable. There isn't actually a singular monster attacking the ARK, instead it's the entire military. Shadow however does get a confrontation with the Biolizard and later with Black Doom. Do they count for this though? You decide.

Moral Superiority: Not Applicable. Shadow isn't inherently morally above or below the other people on the ARK who died.

Cosmo:

Last Survivor: Mostly Applies. She is the last survivor specifically of her species. Everyone else in the Sonic Crew survives to the final confrontation, but her species is toast.

Final Confrontation: Applies. Cosmo is the last to interact with Dark Oak in the initial genocide, and the one to eventually defeat him (along with Tails, but really it was Cosmo's sacrifice that actually killed him).

Moral Superiority: Not Applicable. The rest of her species are portrayed as innocent and undeserving of their fate, and her survival was purely due to her fear making her accept a deal with Dark Oak and the implication that he's her father.

Silver:

Last Survivor: Mostly Applies. He and Blaze are the only seen survivors of Iblis's assault. Blaze absorbs Iblis and dips, but Silver does have a fight with Solaris in the final ending.

Final Confrontation: Somewhat. Blaze and Silver both boss fight Iblis, and Blaze gets the final confrontation and defeat. However, Silver partakes in the defeat of Solaris, who technically is Iblis.

Moral Superiority: Not Applicable. Silver isn't given moral superiority towards anyone who dies.

Sonic Forces Avatar:

Last Survivor: Somewhat. Avatar is the last survivor of their village due to them fleeing from Infinite. They join up with a group following this and assist Sonic in defeating Infinite.

Final Confrontation: Somewhat. Sonic is also there.

Moral Superiority: Debatable. Like Cosmo, the other civilians are portrayed as innocent and Avatar only escapes due to their perceived cowardice. They are shown to be Extra Special Besties with Sonic which helps them defeat Infinite through the power of Love, so that may count?

Whisper:

Last Survivor: Mostly Applies. Whisper is the last Diamond Cutter after Mimic kills her entire squad and betrays them. She goes solo until eventually confronting Mimic and then helping found a reformed Diamond Cutters.

Final Confrontation: Debatable. Mimic is still an active threat in the comics, but Whisper did get a climactic confrontation with him in Tangle & Whisper.

Moral Superiority: Not Applicable. Whisper only survived because Claire requested she stay behind due to her intuition.

Sonic in '06 specifically:

Last Survivor: Mostly Applies. Sonic is the only character who remembers that the '06 timeline occurred, making him the technical only survivor of its events. Ignore the fact he died at one point, he got better.

Final Confrontation: Mostly Applies. Sonic leads the attack against Solaris in the Final Boss fight, but Elise is the one to blow out the candle and reset the timeline.

Moral Superiority: Debatable. All the other characters are "heroes" but Sonic is the Biggest Best Hero Of Them All That The Chaos Emeralds Love Soooo Much, and he also is the one to selflessly insist on the timeline reset so that the whole Solaris Destruction Thing never happens.

[sminny-wew]

(Spoilers for IDW Sonic #76)

Lemme tell you guys what makes Silver's characterization on this page so deliciously juicy to me. It's a bit of a doozy to explain, but bear with me

In Sonic 06, you start out with Sonic's story mode as the default. So if you were playing the game for the first time and had no idea who Silver was, you would initially believe he's an antagonist, based on how focused and single-minded he is on killing Sonic (to the point of not noticing Sonic is trying to rescue someone). But as you get further into the game, you unlock Shadow's and Silver's story modes as well, and you learn why Silver initially wants to kill Sonic.

In Silver's story, it's revealed that he comes from a post-apocalyptic future ravaged by Iblis's flames. Silver, being naive and trusting, is told by Mephiles that if he wants to bring hope and peace to his world, all he has to do is kill the one person who caused this devastation in the first place, the "Iblis Trigger": Sonic. (Obviously Mephiles is lying to get Silver to do his dirty work for him.) But as Silver spends more time in the past, he befriends people like Amy, who lead him to question his goal. This in turn leads to one of the overarching themes of Silver's campaign:

"...is that really the right thing to do?"

Now I'm not here to debate this moral dilemma, at the end of the day the target demographic of this game and the Sonic franchise as a whole is young boys, so obviously the story won't get too deep into a topic like that. But I have a reason for bringing this up.

Ultimately, after learning who the real Iblis Trigger is and thinking things over, Silver decides to help Sonic rescue Elise to prevent her from dying in a crash and thus releasing Iblis prematurely. (This is also why Mephiles says "Screw it" and just kills Sonic himself in the end.) But Elise is still a mortal, so at some point in the 200 years between Sonic's time and Silver's, she still dies and her death still unleashes Iblis upon the world. Returning to a future that's still in ruins, Silver tries to seal Iblis within himself, only for Blaze to take his place; Iblis accepts her as a host due to her pyrokinesis, and her body disintegrates as her spirit vanishes into the sky, parting the clouds and returning light to a once bleak world. Silver finally gets to see the clear skies and bright sunshine of the past in his own era, but at the cost of having to reckon with the loss of his closest friend.

So what does any of this have to do with Silver wanting to help Whisper kill Mimic?

In the final story of 06, after Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver defeat Solaris, Sonic and Elise are taken back in time to when Solaris was just a little flame, and Elise makes the difficult decision to blow the flame out in order to save everyone the grief it will cause. By destroying Solaris in the past, the events of Sonic 06 are erased from the timeline.

Elise never meets Sonic because he never has to rescue her from Eggman.

Eggman has no motive to invade Soleanna because there's no longer any so-called "Flames of Disaster" to entice him.

And because there's no Mephiles to send him back in time to kill an Iblis Trigger, all of Silver's character development is undone.

Now, the first time he's technically met Sonic and co. was in Sonic Rivals, where he travels back in time to track down Eggman Nega and stop him from turning the planet and everyone who lives on it into cards.

So if Silver seems a little too eager to kill Mimic as revenge...I believe that it's because he's technically never had to confront the idea of taking a life before. This Silver, the one who's never encountered Solaris and only just now got to see Soleanna for the first time on his little world tour with Blaze, never had to contend with what killing means, or the consequences that come with it, or how traumatic the act of killing can be.

Would this be retreading old ground for Silver? Kinda, yeah, but given the context of both 06 and the Duo thing, I honestly don't think it's a bad idea for him to go through this dilemma again

And for me personally, no matter how things go, it's gonna be so great to watch it all play out

[cartoonartistpng]

Dadphiles!Mephiles Sheet

And with that, I've completed all four of 'em!

This one definitely took the longest. I was originally content with re-using my Mobian Mephiles design, but as I developed the story more, I realized I wanted something more personal. I'm super proud of how this came out.

This is technically "spoilers" since this is toward the end (Post-Forces), but I wanted a design that reflected Mephiles/Solaris' change. And I'm too eager.

This post will be updated as time goes on. New additions will be marked as (✨New!✨).

-> Dadphiles AU Masterpost

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🔹When Mephiles recombined with Iblis the second time, Solaris regained empathy. His memories of his time with SSS suddenly weighed heavily on the god, but the destruction of time had already begun and Solaris still was not at full power. So, with the help of the Chaos Emeralds, Solaris sacrifices himself to fix his mistakes and ensure the safety of his sons.

🔹Following the events of Sonic Forces, Solaris is re-awoken... but still very weak. As he regains power, he avoids his sons, believing they do not wish to see him. They prove him wrong.

🔹With a second chance at being their father, Solaris assumes the body of a hedgehog—meticulously designed to reflect each of his sons—and simply becomes "Mephiles the Hedgehog". As a mortal, he is much more vulnerable and limited in his power, even if he were to fully recover from his self-sacrifice. Mephiles is willing to risk such a thing for his sons' happiness and trust.

🔹As Mephiles was taken advantage of the last time he assumed a mortal form (ie. The Flame of Solaris), Mephiles is hesitant to let any others know of his identity, even the ones his children claim are trustworthy friends. Therefore, only those who were in Soleanna know the truth... for now.

🔹Mephiles is introduced to the rest of his sons' friends as their dad who raised them, but disappeared when they were kids. Mephiles admits that it was not a good decision, but explains that he was "injured" and "unable to protect them without risking their futures."

🔹Vector and Espio are the only ones suspicious of this random hedgehog that appeared out of the blue, not long after the War, looking perfectly like all three hedgehogs. Hedgehogs that they know aren't blood-related and who were separated by literal decades. However, since no one else seems to be suspicious, the Chaotix believe everyone else might be brainwashed somehow.

🔹Mephiles realizes their suspicions, but doesn't correct them. Both because he does not trust their intentions yet... and that it also amuses him.

🔹The SSS introduce Tails as their brother and Mephiles immediately accepts him and requests to take on the Prower name just as his sons have. Tails, who was worried about disapproval from his brothers' dad, may or may not have broken down in tears at the easy acceptance.

🔹Vanilla, happy to meet another parent of this rambunctious group, often enjoys sharing stories with Mephiles. Mephiles suddenly has to learn how normal mortal parents raise their children, all to continue his charade. Through her, he slowly learns what it means to truly embrace Parenthood.

🔹Vector is jealous of how friendly the hedgehog has gotten with Vanilla. Once again, Mephiles is amused.

🔹Mephiles enjoys messing with Vector, mostly by "coincidentally" appearing whenever he tries talking to SSS, gifting Vanilla different things, and saying some rather suspicious words. This, of course, makes Vector more paranoid.

🔹Despite looking like a normal hedgehog, Mephiles is composed of pure energy and therefore does not need mortal requirements. He can feign eating but it does nothing for him. He appreciates the flavor, however.

🔹As an entity of time, Mephiles is used to viewing all of time at once. As a mortal, that viewing window is smaller, but still means that sometimes Mephiles will use the wrong slang, terms, and translations or even reference something that does not exist yet or no longer exists.

🔹Mephiles is utterly focused on making the most out of this second chance and is willing to go to great lengths to protect all of his children... Even if it means using methods they may not approve of.

🔹Mephiles is the one who enabled Silver to remain in the past. He also later—by request—makes it so Shadow will age alongside his friends.

🔹Mephiles can communicate with the Master Emerald (and the Chaos Emeralds), often expressing his confusion over various mortal concepts. The Master Emerald finds his bafflement amusing, to his chagrin.

[There will be no romance as Mephiles/Solaris is completely focused on his relationships with his sons.]

[holograms-in-the-night]

Thinking about it, Elise's character had it all to be an "antagonist" or to be morally grey:

She had a tragic past, including the loss of beloved people to her (her parents). Their deaths affect her even 10 years after.

She had a somewhat "complicated" relationship with her father. In the game it is not directly established that she doesn't like him, but it is very clear that she holds complicated feelings about him . In the scene where she ressurects Sonic, she describes her father's plan to change time as a "sin". (also all my elise homies dislike the Duke so you get it)

Elise is lonely and sad, which is the easiest path to wake up Iblis.

Elise technically has lost everything, she lost her family and she is doomed to live a life shutting her emotions forever in order to protect her people.

When she met Sonic for the first time, she asked him "why was he saving her", implying that, people only care for her status as a princess, and she is not used to be cared for who she is. Or maybe that's my interpretation. She seemed very uninterested on Sonic in the beginning, while Sonic was flexing in front of her while killing Eggman's robots😎😎

The scene in the beginning where Elise has a vision of Iblis waking up and destroying the city, she appears flying, looking at the kingdom in a serious way. I think it's interesting that she's portrayed like that, instead of portraying her with an afraid look on her face . To me, it implies that Elise's knows that Iblis is inevitable and that there's nothing she can do other than accept such devastating fate.

I think it says a lot of her that despite all of this, Elise always stood for the good. She loves being a princess and she loves her kingdom, even if sometimes she wishes she could be just a normal girl. She has heroic traits as well, and in my opinion, is it one of the reasons why Sonic is interested in her, as Sonic himself is a hero and does good in a selfless way.

"It sounds like being a princess is not that easy"

He clearly shows admiration for Elise's strong will, and it definetly makes a contrast on Sonic's physical strenght. I think it's also interesting that in this game, Sonic helps Elise not only by rescuing her from danger, but also by listening to her, for trying to make her feel better and not judging her for having emotions that others might deem as "selfish" or "not proper from a princess". This is what makes Elise to take the right decision to blow the candle to go back in time, because thanks to him, she knows that they will always be friends even if they are apart, and that she always will make the right decision. She is princess, and Soleanna matters the most to her. She saved Soleanna and the world just like all of the other characters in her own way, by having a strong heart.

Say whatever you want about Elise "being a damsel on distress on the whole game", but narratively? Her being a princess is an important part of the plot, because if she didn't loved being a princess, if she didn't loved her people, Iblis would have destroyed the world years ago. (I do agree that the rescuing elise part could have been handled better at least on gameplay terms, but dismissing her importance as a princess to the plot and reducing her to a mere damsel in distress is so innacurate). It really takes strenght to be like that, and to be able to protect others.

[superscourge]

Hi! Found your blog semi recently and got obsessed with your res au, and have a few questions!

You’ve talked a little about how Infinite changes in appearance after getting comfortable with the family and you’ve shown how Bang and Vacio look as teens/young adults (? It’s been a second since I looked lol), so I was wondering if there are any changes you’d thought of for the rest of the family. Like, Mephiles and Iblis are mortal now right? Do they age? Will they and Infinite start going grey? And how will Meta change? She’s still exploring her identity at the start of I remember right, so how will she look with over a decade to get to know herself?

Also, I think you might have talked about it a little bit before (?), but how do Infinite and Mephiles go from that initial mutual dislike to having a close relationship? When do they start talking about it? Was there a distinct moment when they started being closer to partners than just kinda cohabiting?

Oh! Also also how does Mephiles patch things up with Scourge? If I remember right, they didn’t exactly have the best start with the whole parasitizing on his chaos energy thing. He does end up like a father figure, right? He has that with Meta, but I’m not sure you’ve mentioned if he has that with Scourge

Obviously, no pressure XD I just kinda adore this au and had to get the thoughts out

omg it makes me so happy that ur so interested in learning more abt it 😭😭😭 i'll try to answer as best i can (under a cut bc it got real long)

mephiles and iblis are mortal but not..really?? i guess?? they CAN be killed now but they dont necessarily age, have the same powers they had as deities, and have enhanced functions on top of it all (like fast healing and things of that nature). this is because their bodies arent technically "legitimate" mobian bodies, as they were made using synthetic mobian dna as well as the essence of their original forms, if that makes sense?? so they wont rly go gray at any point. unfortunately, infinite is genuinely mortal, and he does physically age still, so he will eventually start to gray (and honestly it probably wont be very long until then because this family has stressed him out so much even though he loves them LOL); flatline and julius are already dead so they dont rly physically age anymore; scourge, sonic, and shadow arent necessarily immortal, but their lifespans have been significantly increased due to the chaos energy theyve absorbed throughout their lives (and also shadow's whole...thing); meta is as mortal as infinite, though if im being real she will somehow find a way to prolong her own life using science or technology lol (she is genuinely afraid of her mortality and death at first, but she does come to terms with valuing her life after she processes that it is finite and precious. however im not sure she'd end up wanting it to end after all once she realizes that a good amount of her family will outlive her, yknow?), and on top of that i do think she would explore her outward appearance more over time; bang and vacío are in the same boat as mephiles and iblis because one is made up of pure chaos and the other is literally mephiles' son lol; black doom is also the same as mephiles and iblis; sunny is like meta except she 100% is ok with her life eventually coming to a natural end; zonic is in the same boat as infinite because he doesnt have experience with chaos energy like sonic or the others

mephiles and infinite didnt start really getting close (or even tolerating each other) until after mephiles got his mobian body! at first mephiles was very clearly and obviously showing bias towards meta and seemed to only rly be attached to her, but after becoming an unspoken member of the family, he did slowly start to form bonds with infinite and scourge as well, which was encouraged by how much he knew meta valued them. it wasnt until infinite really noticed mephiles' fondness for the rest of them that he sort of opened up his heart to him, though actual feelings didnt come up until someone mistook him and mephiles for a couple at a market lmfao. on mephiles' end, his feelings towards infinite didnt develop until he noticed infinite being kinder to him and treating him like he treated meta and scourge as members of his family, with the real tipping point being infinite setting up a small, simple shrine for solaris on one of the windows as a gesture of respect. mephiles then proceeded to ask meta and scourge questions regarding the feelings he was having as he had never experienced them in his previous form (scourge literally did not want to deal with that so he just told him to look shit up on the computer lol), and he was actually the one who ended up initiating the talk. they came to the conclusion that it wouldnt hurt to try things out (infinite makes the comment that it feels strange for him to try and navigate something like this at his age, to which mephiles responds that he's centuries old himself, so he supposed they would both be navigating it together) and they attempted to keep it on the dl but meta and scourge clocked that shit so fast LMAO

you remembered right! scourge and mephiles def had a strained relationship at first because of how mephiles used scourge's chaos energy as a means of tethering himself to the timeline. honestly scourge had a hard time coming to terms with mephiles being part of the family for a while after he got his own body, even after seeing how much meta seemed to love him. that only improved after mephiles caught him one night after he had a particularly bad nightmare (mephiles doesnt sleep A Lot so hes usually up anyway). he offered to let scourge vent about it to him to ease his nerves because he had learned that behavior from meta, and though scourge was hesitant and reluctant to open up like that at first, he did end up doing it, and after that he felt like he could trust mephiles better, which led to him eventually becoming fully comfortable with his presence :]

i want to write this shit out in a fic so baddddd bc i only have one (1) chapter fully written out and posted, but its so very hard for me to do anything past that lol (especially bc im nervous about the second chapter due to how. heavy. it is). but maybe one day i'll get around to it after all, we'll see

no matter what tho ur always free to ask abt stuff ur curious about ^^ odds are i Have thought about these things but just havent gotten around to posting about them yet lol

[maplethedarkshine]

The iblis trigger… It was me all along, wasn’t it?

It’s funny to think how the release of the flames of disaster was technically because of Silver trusting Mephiles. The iblis trigger was indeed a hedgehog, just from the wrong time

[tonguetiedraven]

Curious about your perspective of this, because I think people makes different assumptions. 

Even though Amaimon and Iblis, and I think even Mephisto, have called themselves related to Rin to his face in some way or another, do you think Rin still doesn’t know that he’s technically related to them? 

He witnessed the past, and the Demon Kings calling Satan “father”, but I still don’t think he gets it. I don’t even know if Rin realizes they, the Demon Kings, are related as siblings to each other. 

To be fair, Rin gets most of these “introductions” when in really volatile situations. Iblis, I think, is the most recent example, and Rin seems to kind of not be able to pay attention to what she says because she took Yukio and Rin’s priority is getting him back.

If it ever does sink in to Rin that he and Yukio are technically related to the Demon Kings as well, how do you think he would handle it? Do you possibly see a dynamic change? I think Rin could potentially get along with individual Demon Kings better than the group entirely (I think what side they are in the war also plays a role).

In chapter 9 Rin meets Amaimon who says he's "Kinda like your big brother." Rin seems to not get this at all, and that's fair because Amaimon has Kurikara and that has Rin's attention. That and Amaimon being a demon.

Chapter 39 Rin goes to dinner with Mephisto. The chat reveals who Mephisto is (Samael, King of Time and Space) and has Amaimon call him 'bro'.

Rin gives no indication that he realizes he's related to Mephisto at all, nor has he given any indication thus far that he's related Amaimon, so neither of those revelations really seem to go anywhere.

Chapter 49 Mephisto calls Lucifer 'brother', but Rin already hasn't shown any indication he considers himself related to Mephisto, so hearing that wouldn't make him realize he's also related.

Chapter 129 has the Iblis confrontation. She flat out says he's their youngest sibling and Rin's response is "What're you talking about!" Now that could be in relation to Rin being almost as cute as Egyn, but it reads more like an overall everything she's saying doesn't make sense. Likely because she took Yukio and Rin knows he's not in a spot to be strong enough to take them all on at that point.

Personally, I think if he were to sit down and think about it, he'd understand they're related in the way he's kind of related to all demons, but I don't think he considers any of them siblings. Only Yukio, at least at this point. He 'gets' that they're related, but doesn't think about it or them in general outside of direct confrontations, and then he's thinking more about something else in the interactions.

Having said that, I think we're already going to see a dynamic change going forward, whether he really gets that they're siblings or not. Having had his realization and mercy with Satan, I think Rin's going to continue to try and meet in the middle with peace and potential healing/rest before he straight out fights, but I think that very much depends on Yukio, the person he clearly considers his family, to not be killed.

Largely, he just hasn't had much interaction with them. He interacts with Mephisto the most and has a good enough relationship with him. Amaimon he's shown himself able to work with, and Beelzebub he's probably going to get along with great once he figures out Beelzebub likes barbecue. I don't see a problem with Azazel, but we also haven't seen him do anything. We've just seen what he helped accomplish.

Iblis, Egyn, Astaroth, Azazel, and Lucifer he's had little chance to do anything with but watch. We can't really say how he interacts with them to know if it'll change or not. He doesn't tend to start with fighting with any of them, and I think that much will continue to be true at least.

[chaoxgardens]

An In-Depth Analysis of Sonilver in Sonic 06 (with some other media sprinkled in)

Sonilver is a pairing very near and dear to my heart, but exclusively when it comes to their “rival era” of sorts. (Aka earlier iterations of Silver, primarily Sonic 06)

I believe that they shine best when they have their own goals and either 1: clash heads or 2: team up, depending on if their goals align or not. But we’ll get to that in more detail later. Let’s get to it, shall we?

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There’s a real irony to their dynamic in this game that I’ve never seen discussed online before. As we all know, Sonic is pretty much the main force or “bringer” of justice in the Sonic universe. I’ll go into more detail about Sonic himself at a later date, but regardless the universe would probably be utterly fucked without the blue blur.

Silver has no prior knowledge of Sonic’s achievements or ideals because he’s from 200 years in the future, and Sonic would be long-gone at that point. (In any canonical sense at least) All he knows about the guy is what Mephiles has told him, that he’s the Iblis Trigger who must be killed to restore peace to his future. Silver then convinces himself it’s okay to kill Sonic because it will bring the justice that his future deserves, even if he has to kill a man (hedgehog) to do it. Ironic, huh? Silver must kill the blinding blue light of justice himself to get the justice he wants for his future.

Even as he meets Sonic in person and gets glimpses of his true nature, (through his own confrontations with Sonic and his allies that defend him) he doubles down and gets more aggressive, believing he MUST be right.

I believe Silver’s sense of pride and stubbornness tends to get overlooked and people instead cling onto the term Naive like a lifeboat, but that’s for another time.

When Silver learns the true story of Mephile’s deceit and Sonic’s nature, that pride and stubbornness prevents him from a proper apology, and he instead pulls the “Circumstances have changed” card. (I love that aspect of his character by the way)

Sonic isn’t the kind of guy to hold grudges, so he quickly forgives him and they become allies. Despite my love for their rivalry, I think this shift to allies works well in 06. Their mutual respect and Silver taking the initiative to carry on when Sonic “dies” is really heartwarming and contrasts well with their earlier interactions. Now, since this is Sonic 06, none of this actually happened technically, and they forget about they had ever met. The angst is real and I love it!

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Maybe I’ll go more in depth with the Sonic Rivals series at a later date but I’ll give the basics to further my point. Sonic rivals continues their rivalry (hence the name) and has them meet again having no prior knowledge of eachother. The two butt heads as they both try to find Eggman Nega individually, but they eventually set aside their differences and work together when it suits the situation best.

The same thing happens in Sonic Rivals 2 despite their prior team up and their rivalry becomes more competitive than antagonistic. I think this shift between rival or allies depending on the situation is the pinnacle of Sonilver (as is any other pairing in Sonadilver). It highlights their individual ideals and goals while also showing their similarities and sheer ability to thrive as a team.

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Unfortunately as the years have gone by their rivalry has been watered down to a more palatable allyship with some occasionally teasing. This is mostly due to IDW, but I’ll be here for hours if I discuss all my gripes with that comic series.

Instead, I’ll just say that while I find the teasing endearing, I missed their initial resolve to solve things on their own before working together when they must. I just feel like there’s a lot more flavor and intrigue to that angle that compliments both of their characters better. Regardless, there’s nothing I can do about that. I’ll just continue to wish for my Sonilver beef on a silver platter without an expectation of change.

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Now you may be asking, okay we get it. They have a cool dynamic, but how do you think a romance between the two would play out? You see, the funny thing is that I don’t want them to become romantic. Sure they might have some hidden not so platonic feelings that they will continue to suppress for eternity (I’m more a queerplatonic shipper myself) , but to try to force them into the standard romantic relationship would absolutely destroy what makes their dynamic so interesting in the first place.

Of course, if you do enjoy romantic Sonilver all the power to ya’, (Sonic and Silver characterizations are so consistent from game to game anyways that it’s nearly impossible to be wrong.) but I personally just don’t see the appeal of putting them in that sort of relationship considering the dynamic I enjoy best.

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Feel free to comment or DM if you have anything to add, I’d love to hear your opinion regardless if you agree with me or not. Let’s just all be civil, alright?

Also as a little addition, I’ve added a song that I think fits my ideal Sonilver dynamic to a T.

- Jay🦔‼️

[hevexns-realm]

Hello! Since my birthday is coming soon, here's another question:

How do you think each character would spend their birthday? Like, what would they prefer for it — set a whole party, or take a good walk with friends, or something else? 👀

Aww, happy early birthday breaddo!! I hope you have a great birthday! 🤍🤍🤍

As how each character spends their birthday..

Amy - a giant tea party with the girls and some of the boys. She’d most likely ask shadow for a drag performance, or for helping out with the party. After all she, Sonic, and shadow are all amazing friends, especially in adulthood! (Although one year she decided to go clubbing with aeon and rouge, and honestly she had fun!)

Rouge - drinking wine all evening and buying herself luxuries. knuckles, shadow, and a few others pop by her place to host her a small dinner party, as the bar has gone down in history as Mobius’ greatest thief, might as well celebrate!

Cream - a gorgeous birthday party that’s similar to Amy’s, except she gets special presents from all her friends and family. Depending on who it’s from, it can range from coloring books, plushies, to small amounts of jewelry, and even a handmade dress for her! (Nazo always makes cream a birthday dress, it’s just his yearly tradition.)

Blaze - well, she’s a princess. You better believe a whole festival is being held in her honor. She’s invited many fellow royal families and high honored guests, but her favorite bit is dancing under the moonlight with silver. Mephiles and iblis actually help with these events, since blaze is considered a goddess in her realm (technically she’s a Demi-goddess, but she’s still worshipped all the same!)

Iris - it really depends on the situation and when/where she is. If you were talking about when she was in the castle, she really wouldn’t have anything held for her by her dad or most of her older siblings. However, she was always given a handmade vanilla cake by some of the maids on her birthday. If you’re talking about in the present timeline? Most likely a night out to buy herself some dinner, buy some cute jewelry, and if it’s a work night? Oh the girl gets SPOILED by rich men. (Nazo and seelk can’t help but feel jealous, but not like they can do anything about it, let her enjoy the day as she deserves!)

Aeon - goes on a shopping spree or goes to travel. Every year she experiences something unique and beautiful on her travels! ^^

Sonic - pool party at his place, backyard cookout, maybe even some drinks! He also gets spoiled rotten by all his friends and loved ones! ^^

Scourge - pretty similar to Sonic, except the drinking is more extreme, and drugs can be found at the event 0-0|| you can imagine how often cops show up at the event spot due to complaints.

Shadow - most likely going to a drag bar to perform, after all, he knows a lot of his friends there have stuff planned for him. Ranging from alcohol to new dresses, he’s gonna get spoiled on his birthday, in more ways than one! -v-

Seelkadoom - going to concerts. This can range in his mood. However, this year he’s aiming to bring the rest of the supernatural trio to an Olivia Rodrigo concert for his 23rd birthday. (For his 22nd, he and nazo went to a Sabrina carpenter concert, and he got an autograph from her! You can still see it framed in their room, you’ll have to ask him to see it though!)

Nazo - this depends. Some days he wants to stay in bed and cuddle his beloveds all day, some days he wants to go shopping for a new cologne and some new pieces, some days he wants to go gambling in no limit hold ‘em’. However, he’s always gifted some sweets from vanilla and cream for his birthday. They have this tradition of gifting each other something they love, and Nazo has always adored vanilla’s baking!

Tails - is usually given a small party, and is usually having game nights at Sonic’s place. Usually having some burgers with Sonic’s homemade chili cheese fries! ✨v✨

Knuckles - goes to cuddle and hangs out with rouge! Usually has some soup and some cake with her, or goes out drinking with Sonic and the others! ^^

Bonus:

Usually, mephiles and iblis don’t celebrate their birthdays. After all, they don’t remember how old they actually are. However, they do celebrate the birthdays of their favorite devotees!

Remember the sweet trans woman who left soup, cookies, and wine for mephiles? He always makes sure she has an amazing birthday, no matter what happens the day before. Sometimes he gets a little gutsy and visits her in her dreams to wish her a happy birthday! (He’s in love, but he HATES admitting it to anyone he doesn’t trust.)

For iblis, she always buys high quality ingredients and utensils for the chef who makes the amazing meals for her at her altar. It’s her small way of giving back, especially when they’re nothing but sweet to a goddess like her!

[sobeksewerrat]

so remember the tiny comment I made in my Cain n Abel vs Qabil n Habil essay about how Iblis and Lucifer technically serve the same role but aren't exactly counterparts?

Well I was doing some research and I found some people trying to equate them and make Iblis out to be the good guy? Because his refusal to bow to Adam when Allah ordered him to is "pure monotheism"???

And I'm sorry ignoring my religious biases this is just blatant and intentional misreading of the text. It is stated clearly, with no room for debate whatsoever, that Iblis did not bow because he thought he was better than Adam. It was all about pride! He didn't do it out of some secret respect for Allah! He did it because he was pissed that Allah ordered him and the Mala'ika to bow to a 'lesser being' in his eyes. He thought (and still thinks for that matter) that humans are inherently lesser because we were made of mud and clay whilst he was forged from fire.

HE INVENTED FUCKING RACISM GUYS. HE IS NOT A GOOD GUY FUCK. THIS GUY LITERALLY CONDONES RAPE AND MURDER AND EVERY BAD THING YOU CAN THINK OF, AS LONG AS IT SERVES HIS POINT ABOUT US HUMANS BEING A MISTAKE. HIS WHOLE THING IS THAT HE WANTS ALL OF HUMANITY TO ROT IN JAHANNAM TO PROVE TO ALLAH THAT WE ARE WORSE THAN THE JINN (YK, HIS SPECIES AND DESCENDANTS IN SOME INTERPRETATIONS).

DUDE IS ONE OF THOSE SELF ABSORBED MOMS WHO THINKS HIS KIDS ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS HES A KAREN NOT A TRAGIC MISUNDERSTOOD HERO. IDGAF ABOUT LUCIFER HE IS NOT LUCIFER HE IS IBLIS!! FUCK I MEED TO WRITE AN ESSAY ABOUT THE RETROACTIVE CHRISTIANISATION OF ISLAM I FEEL LIKE WERE BORROWING TOO KUCH FROM THEM AT THIS POINT-

[theoutcastedartist]

Hello! My friends and I discovered your Shadow Light AU tonight and I just have to tell you that we are INSTANTLY obsessed with this! We love it so much!! I personally have been screaming about how tired Sonic looks (my poor boy) and what is the significance of the 17??? 👀👀👀

I don't know if you still plan on returning to this AU, but we'll be very happy if you do! (I saw the asks where you said you'd gotten into LMK which, valid. Me and a few of my friends love LMK too!) Anyway, I hope you have a wonderful day!

(Also your art style is absolutely AMAZING. Tails looks absolutely adorable and I love the way you draw Sonic!!)

hello! Sorry it took so long to FINALLY answer this XD

Haven't really checked my inbox in a minute imma be real. But I'm very glad to hear you and your friends have been liking the AU (despite it having been in an indefinite hiatus lmaooo) the AU **MIGHT** be coming back if my current returned interest in sonic stays for long enough. If I do decide to bring it back I'll make a post officially announcing it.

and yeah my AU boom!sonic is a very sleep deprived little guy.

The significance of "17", if I remember correctly (it's been a minute since I've thought of the more intricate details of this AU) for sonic is that he was Dr. Thorndyke's 17th (and last) attempt at Project Light (who is a scientific experiment created with the goal of harnessing the powers of one of the Halves of Solaris, known as Iblis the Flame)

Project Shadow on the other hand, is the one and only of himself (the ultimate lifeform) whose original creation under Gerald Robotnik was, like Project Light, meant to harness the powers of one of the two halves of Solaris, his being Mephiles the dark.

The Bio lizard and the Chaos clones were part of a failed abandoned project of trying to harness the God powers of recreating Chaos themselves.

Iblis and Mephiles are some of the gods the Ancients worshipped before the collapse of their old civilization, the two are quite literally halves of a bigger God (Solaris, who does not have a design in the AU yet).

It's important to remember in this AU that despite the two being created within the same facility/on ARK, they are not related by blood at all.

Shadow still retains his black arms DNA (with a twist) and was created by Gerald and his team,

Sonic's DNA is that of one of the preserved remains of one of the royal children from the collapse of the Ancients, and he was created by Thorndyke and his team

(and he and Gerald had very... Clashing views on the ethics/morals of how they treated their respective creations.)

Dr. Thorndyke was not a nice man, from the few interactions shadow and maria had with him. He was a very secretive man when it came to any version of Project Light. They didn't even meet our Project Light - ver. 17 (who we all know as Sonic) until 3 years before shit hit the fan - to say the least.

Shadow, while being in stasis for 50 yrs had his memories slightly tampered with, while he remembers most of ARK, he does not remember sonic (but feels unusually drawn to him for some unexplainable reason) and Sonic had been accidentally sent 50yrs into the future instead, but unlike shadow he has lost all of his memories on ARK - poor blue couldn't even remember his own name (dubbed 'Little Light' by Maria) and was largely mute until he met Tails and Co. His name "Sonic" technically came from Eggman, constantly referring to him as a "SuperSONIC nuisance" lmao

But yeah thanks for sending this ask! Even if it's been a minute ToT

[thespianinthebackcorner]

yknow I complain at least once a month about not being able to find any non-toxic mephilver but maybe I should actually be yapping about that instead of complaining and doing nothing

somehow, it took me this long for my dumb ass to realise that maybe part of the reason there's none of it is because I'm either the only one or one of very few whose imagination is geared towards it right now. To that end... I should probably do some yappin' on how I see it working. (This is assuming it's reciprocated lol 😂 this ship has enough angsty writers already as im preeeetty sure I've pointed out). Anyway I'm not coherent enough to write a post so this is gonna be a little weirdly written but hey we ball.

ok, so in a story sense- at least for the games- there's two ways I see this happening. The first is a divergent 06 in which Mephiles and Silver get more time to interact and it's a tentative allies to friends to lovers situation. This kind of a route would likely have Silver figuring out what's up with Meph and the real situation behind all the fuckery everyone's pulling, and steers him off the murder path and onto a better ending that would theoretically lead to ally meph and/or a reunited Solaris. (Technically making the ship Solaris/Silver, but since Mephiles is the mind and heart, there's not much of a difference in that regard.) essentially, a canon divergence where Silver figures out Mephiles is lying, steers him onto a different path, and they friends-to-lovers their way into ship territory.

The other pathway is a little more complicated, but it's one I've been toying with. This is post-06, and deals with the idea that Silver goes back to the White Space somehow (either via the Time Stones, any leftover power from the Time Eater Eggman has, or some other way) and gets Meph out of there himself. This pathway requires Silver remembering 06, knowing Mephiles is in the White Space, and having the emotional maturity to look back on it and realise Mephiles' punishment is too harsh for his goals. Whether he knows that Iblis is (probably) sealed in Blaze is up to you, he might he might not. Regardless, this path changes Meph a bit- being sealed in the White Space for 5 years at a minimum (probably idk how the timeline works) fucks you up major, so you have a bit (a lot) of slow-burn-heal-arc shit to do before anything starts happening. From there, though, I see it as a warm slow roommates-to-lovers type beat where they're both just kinda trying to live their lives amid time being fucked up and evil and a disaster every five minutes.

Obviously you can also work with it in other AUs or just disregard story entirely and create small sweet pockets of story where they're together and fuck the logistics, which is essentially what I do 90% of the time. It works pretty well with modern AUs in my experience, and serves as a cute sister ship to Sonadow!

Dynamic-wise, which is probably what I should've led with but here we are, I like to think of a fluffy version of the ship as being very soft and comfortable with each other. They're on their guard pretty much 100% of the time, so the moments they get alone with each other are that time to drop it and relax. Between Silver having to save the future all the time and Mephiles trying to find Iblis and reunite, they're both stressed a lot, so they lean on each other. I like to think they go on adventures together...

I wrote once in a document for an au that Silver has a lot of love to give and Mephiles needs to be given a lot, which is the best way I can describe the dynamic simply. To extend on that and explain it a little more, Silver gives a lot of love obviously. He takes less than he gives, but he'll take his boyfriend's love with just as much care as he gives his own. Mephiles, on the other hand, is more subtle. He takes all the love Silver gives, but he shows reciprocation in all the small ways that are hard to notice if you're not Silver himself. He gives less than he takes by nature, but when he does give it's always exactly what Silver needs and he knows it. They're a very synergetic pair, if that makes any sense. The type to cuddle up and take naps together.

There's a lot of room for headcanon, too- I mess with the idea a lot that Mephiles radiates heat (he's still a part of the sun god) and that leads to some fun conclusions. Alternatively, there's also room for some angst (because Chaos forbid I follow my own rules on a post). Anyone else seen that dynamic of a god falling in love with a mortal and struggling with the implications and the fact that they're not supposed to fall for mortals but here they are? Yeah. That's fuckin DELICIOUS when it's applied to a split god like Mephiles who's technically supposed to be spending his time looking for Iblis and reuniting instead of falling for someone he doesn't think he deserves. Especially if you apply the idea that he's mentally assumed his life is on hold until he finds Iblis (that is not how it works) and now he's in love by accident.

Anyway yeah that's uh. That's my rambling. 👍 If anyone has other ideas for fluffy mephilver do tell