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b-rainlet · 3 years
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Gotham for the fandom ask thingy.
(I ran here so fuckin fast you have no clue)
Hello anon! :D I will answer this now, so you don't have to wait any longer but also....this would be very nice to answer through gifsets...(maybe when I am feeling up for it).
For now, have this:
(It's not proof read because I just sat at this for several hours and I don't wanna look at it anymore).
Favourite Male Character
You mean...besides the obvious answers?? :D
Ngl, it's S2 Jerome. I love that little twink with his parental issues and his tragic backstory and I wanna see him happy. There's a reason I have a bunch of AUs where he ends up having a family (mostly in the form of Lee as his Mother) and gets some actual help instead of being ostracized for being a mentally ill person snapping after years of abuse.
(This also ties into my very strong feelings regarding the fact that nobody actually helps the people at Arkham. And I don't mean the main villains there, I mean all the inmates who get treated like shit and are left behind on the regurlar (remember in S2 when Arkham was about to explode and nobody was talking about evacuating the inmates???? I do).
Other than that, one of my faves is also Jonathan. Which may be a little surprising because I barely talk about him but he was my favourite character throughout the show and he had way too little scenes.
(Kinda telling that the characters I latched onto are both helpless teens who were fucked over by the people who were supposed to protect them and can both trace their villain origin story back to Jim Gordon not caring enough about them lmao).
But the cast is big and varied enough that I actually like everyone? Butch, Zsazs, Penguin, S1 and 2 Ed, Jervis, Harvey, Jim......I like them all!!
(Special shoutout to 514A too, he was soft and baby and I wanted to keep him safe and sound really desperately).
(Another special shoutout to Barnes!! I didn't expect to like him when I first saw him, given he looked like he was gonna be mean and stoic and all, but I ended up really liking him and his story!)
Favourite Female Character
Let's just pretend Ecco doesn't exist for this answer ajdkaskaslj.
I fell in love immediately upon seeing Ecco but all! the women! are so!!! good!!!!
I especially have a soft spot for the side characters. I mean, upon first watching I got attached to Alice (even though she only features in two episodes lmao), and also Kristen Kringle - who isn't talked about much within Fandom, but she was pretty and her and Ed were actually quite cute but then she had to die for him to become the Riddler which was...pretty much telling us from the beginnning 'The woman here die to advance the men's plots'.
Barbara was also a big surprise to me because I figured she'd be the female love interest and nothing more but!! her and Jerome were the best thing in S2 and also the most entertaining thing about the Maniax Plot. (In several ways, I think I had the most fun watching this show during S2 , it was just. Good).
Also upon being in this Fandom and thinking about certain characters a bit longer I also really like Vicky Vale. And Montoya. And I wish they had kept both around for longer.
(I also wish they wouldn't have made Vicky a love interest for Jim. Or Sofia. No love interests for Jim except Lee and Barbara please).
Also Selina!! I love both Selina and Tabitha with all my heart - which may also be surprising because I barely ever talk about Tabby but I contain multitudes aklskddsm, and while I like sharing my horny thoughts about Ecco, I also love to think about Tabby and daydream about her being happy and exploring her (and Selina's) issues with showing weakness and affection and their strong loyalty regarding people that they trust.
I just.....women. Women good.
(Women also deserve to have more character than just being somebody's love interests and I have enough wips that completely sideline the guys to focus on the woman instead lmao).
Least Favourite Character
I don't have many characters that I hate??
I generally tend to instantly love everybody unless they are specifically made to be unlikeable. (I also spite-like characters who are hated for petty reasons, I just have a lot of love in my heart and not much energy for hate lmao).
But there were characters who annoyed me while I was watching.
For one, I think Gotham has a variety of super entertaining villains, but the main villains of each season tend to be....boring.
Safe for Strange they all kinda fell flat for me. Theo. Kathryn. Ra's Al Ghul. His Daughter. Mostly because their plotlines were less exciting than stuff like Jerome's carnival or Mother and Orphan's Hotel of Horrors.
Or their motives seemed a lot less understandable than the ones of the other Batman villains who pretty much always come from a place of suffering and abuse and break/snap under the pressure that's put on them (continuing this take of Gotham creating its own villains by leaving behind - mentally ill - people that need help, which I think is very true to most - if not all - Batman villains).
And then you have some characters that simply suffer from the fact that the show was cut short - which is pretty much any and every S5 character that had way too little screentime, but in this specific case means Jeremiah.
Because I disliked Jeremiah a lot while watching.
Without wanting to step on anybody's toes, him and Nygma are probably the two characters on this show I ended up disliking the most.
Mostly because Miah felt like a very cheap copy of Jerome and to this day I think it was a bad idea to replace Jerome with him, since Jeremiah - to me - seems like a super flat character.
Maybe if we had gotten him without meeting Jerome first, just having a Joker character introduced in S4, maybe I would've adored him, who knows.
But in comparison to Jerome...no. Just no.
(I will spare you from any longer rambles, but I think if you follow me, I talked about the ways Miah is lacking for me before).
My made up version of Miah though? I love him.
With Nygma it's even worse because I adored him. I instantly liked him. I was 100% behind him right up until the godawful Isabella plot happened and then it just all went to shit so quickly, I couldn't stand seeing him on screen anymore.
It's surprising that I didn't stop liking Oswald but to me, Oswald pretty much stayed the same while Ed became all bitter and hard and I just miss dorky S2 Ed you know?
It actually got so bad, I completely turned my back on Nygm/obblepot as a ship because I was so severly disappointed and I barely talk about Ed because I just can't stand what they did with him.
(Another victim of bad writing).
Favourite Ship
I'm just gonna stick to canon ships because I don't ever shut up about my Fanon ships so you probably know which ones I love the most :D
There isn't much romance going on within Gotham if I think about it - apart from Jim - which I definitely prefer. You wouldnt guess it from my blog, but I am not a fan of too shippy stuff because in most cases it just means sex scenes and I can live without those. I want action! Blood! Dead People! Not a two minute make-out session between two bland characters!
I gotta admit that Ed and Lee have some cute scenes and I would definitely ship them if I didn't dislike S4 Ed so much (S2 EdLee tho?? Yes).
Also I thought Jim and Lee was okay and Baby Batcat was quite cute at times but mostly I don't care about the canon ships.
I do ship Barbara and Jim though :D
I remember right before they hooked up in S5 I was like: 'I wouldn't mind if they got back together' and then went 'yay!' when they did and I wouldn't have minded a little more 'Will they?? Won't they??' between those two and them just having the mother of unhealthy relationships on this show.
(Also Jim/Barbara/Lee poly relationship but we can't have everything).
Favourite Friendship
So many good relationships on this show!
I need to rewatch the show soon because I probably already forgot about most of them but from the top of my head: Oswald/Butch and Oswald/Zsazs
Which were both then done dirty lmao. One by having Oswald be overly petty (one of the few times I was like...Pengy...wtf...) and the other by passing up the obvious opportunity to have Zsazs find out who really killed Falcone and just...letting Oswald and Victor never interact again. 
Then of course Ivy and Selina which also gloriously fell apart. Just like Ivy and Oswald. 
(Gotham isn’t the best when it comes to maintaining friendships). 
And the biggest and most grandious friendship of them all: J Squad. 
(Who have too little scenes together honestly and then also simply fell apart after Jerome died. Consistency who?)
Favourite Quote
I don’t know, I don’t have many quotes in my head from the show. Me and my niece mostly reference: “Yeah, that’s a spoon.” - “IT IS ALSO A FORK!!1!!!”
Also: “Gotta Go! Gotta Go! They’re after me and the Scarecrow!”
(There are some dialogue blurps I have written down somewhere because they are inspriration for gifsets but in order to be able to just recite some of them from Memory, I would have to watch this show way more obsessively). 
Worst Character Death
I don’t even gotta say anything do I? :D
But I think the character death that actually made me cry was Jerome’s first death. I clearly remember crying because...he just wanted recognition! And praise! And instead he was used as a pawn and betrayed by someone he idolized and he was only 18! My poor little meow-meow!
Seriously, the only things that make me cry on this show: Jerome’s first death, any and all mention of Bruce as a baby - told by an emotional Alfred, any and all Bruce/Alfred interaction at all and Solomon Grundy. 
This made me so happy you have no idea Moment
I seriously need to rewatch this show, it’s been so long :D
But I remember being pretty excited for the J Squad Team Up - because I was like ‘If I were Jerome I would definitely work with Tetch and Scarecrow since they’re also in Arkham atm’ and then he did!!
And I also distinctly remember in S3 that I was close to falling asleep right when they scene came on where Oswald realizes his feelings for Nygma and let me tell you - it caught me so off guard, I was awake instantly lmao. 
(I knew that people shipped them but I was so used to mlm ships being popular when they only have a handful of scenes and are platonic friends that I didn’t expect them to actually have a possibility of being canon). 
From then on I was super pumped for them to deliver on that ship but well....we all knew what happened asnksnndk. 
Saddest Moment
Aside from the already mentioned scenes in the character death column, the scene where Bruce leaves and Selina runs to the airport. I always liked Selina but she wasn’t a priority character of mine (much like Bruce isn’t) but then that scene happened and in an instant, I felt super protective over her. 
She is now my baby. My daughter. My beloved wife. She deserves everything and most importantly she deserves better than Bruce Wayne. 
(Coincidentally that was also the scene where I decided I don’t care much about Bruce asldjkjlj. I absolutely adore early seasons Bruce though). 
Favourite Location
There are so many different locations, I don’t think I can adequately answer this with my spotty memory :D
But I always loved the few episodes where Alice features, because I love how her scenes are shot so probably the little carnival Jervis prepares for her.
Also!! Jeremiah's church!
Or Commissioner Loeb's secret house (Especially the Attic).
There are a lot of cool locations, I gotta gif some of them soon :D
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Rewatching “Gotham” S5E4
Not in chronological order, yaaaayyyy...
Also the other reaction posts for Episodes 8-10 are still a work in progress so hang on!
My sister watched it with me (as well as another episode in S5 and we both plan on watching the series finale together) so my comments will be in bold, and hers will be in regular font.  Author’s notes courtesy of me will be bolded and italicized.
AN:   I managed to record our reactions to this episode and hopefully I can transcribe what I said into this post.
This is going to be fun.
“Shut up and die [Oswald].”  *starts singing “Waking Up in Vegas” by Katy Perry*
You are really going to hell.
I am.  It’s a curse.
*Recap shows Haven blowing up*  Welp.
Ahhhh that freaking shot [of the burning teddy bear]
Hell of a shot to open with
MMMMM....
Also that one [of the people getting out].  That one’s good.
This whole opening just leaves you so numb.
Right?  Holy shit.
And I do like that the other villains are so shocked and horrified at this.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, like you have Penguin and Ed and the other people are like “Oh my God...”
Yeah...
Oh you better not-
*Barbara points her gun at an unsuspecting Oswald*  Oh come on, his back is turned!
Not right nooowww!
That’s bullshit!
*both look uncomfortable when we hear a baby crying in the background*
Everyone’s just kinda grabbing each other!
*grabs my sister and shakes her by the shoulders*  It’s like “Jim!”  “Harvey!”  “Oswald!”
*one more time*  “Bruce!”  No, I’m kidding.
*laughs*  Christ!
Yeah, whenever they use orange lighting in this show, it’s like “Ah yes, give me more!”
Except you know it means shit’s about to go down.
I know.
Or some shit has already gone down.
*Jim looks at the ruins of Haven*  Shiiit...
*Harvey hands back the badge Jim gave to Will*  Nooooooo....
*sighs*
Nooooo... come on.  God dang it.
*Opening titles roll*  So yeah, how’s that for an opening?
Noooo...
“As of now, death toll stands at 311.”  Jesus!
“49 injured, more than 2 dozen left unaccounted for.”  *very softly*  Oh my God.
I swear to God she’s [Secretary Walker] an al Ghul somewhere.
AN:  This was actually recorded a few weeks ago.  Little did I know...
“But whoever destroyed that building can't destroy the hope we've built.”  That’s not gonna do shit!
Yeah, that one lady in the crowd’s like “Oh my God...”  SAAAME!
That’s not gonna do shit, Jim!
“How are you [Jim] gonna stop it from happening again?!?”  Good question!  Honestly right now, Jim, you’re not lookin’ so hot.
I know!
Luciusss!!
“Nothing makes sense anymore.”  Someone say “It’s Gotham.”  Please God!
“SELINA!”  They just leave his [Bruce’s] ass there...
God... poor Bruce.
That’s gonna be nightmare inducing.
Yeahhh-
*Some of Ecco’s goons come in*  OH NOOO COME ON!
Ohhh the Ecco goons!
Can I preemptively say “[expletive] that noise?”
*chuckles*
Also, I love this bit right here:
*laughs when Bruce tries throwing a wrench at a goon and missing him by a long shot*  Worth the shot, buddy!
Ugghh, so close!
*Alfred comes to the rescue*  AL-FRED!
YES!!
LET’S GO!
YESSS!
“I was afraid you didn’t get my signal.  Lucius said the range was only a couple of miles.”  Where’d he get that?!?
*at same time*  What is that?!?
We already get that he’s Batman:  he’s pulling solutions out of his ass.
It’s Lucius.
I guess.
“How did that happen?”  “I [Bruce] let my guard down.”  *aside* You do that a lot, buddy!  You’ll do it more in the future!
“She’s [Selina] gone after Jeremiah, alone.”  *silently hurrahs*
OK, why is she [Barbara] wearing like a dominatrix outfit?
I mean, her last outfit was covered in filth so... also she has Penguin’s hair.
Yeah but- the leather corset?  Really?  C’mon...
“We heard people talking about a shady guy working around Haven before it blew.”  “This is Gotham.  You’re [Barbara] gonna have to do better than ‘shady guy.’“  *both giggle*
“How about a location? A building in the northeast corner of Harlow Park. He says the guy's holed up there.”  Also, they really need to release an official map for this because I have no idea where everything is.
They really need to.
Like I know that they use the actual No Man’s Land map
Right... but this continuity strays so much from regular DC continuity that not all of that might apply.
Yeah.  It’s like “Oh the Soothsayers are in the Granton district in the Dark Zone” and I’m like “Well where is that?!?”
Yeah.
Amusement Mile?!?  I know Ace Chemicals is in the Dark Zone.
Of course it is!
It’s near Crime Alley.
‘Course it damn well is!
But Crime Alley’s in Firefly’s zone.  I think, yeah.
Que interesante...
Ohhh that lightinggg!
*Penguin and Co. wait for Jim in the precinct*  Ohh c’mon... c’mon dude.
Digging the eyepatch on that guy [henchman] though
*mouths along with Oswald saying “woefully apparent”* 
“…you [Jim] are outmanned, outgunned, and out of options.”  *sings*  OUTNUMBERED, OUTPLANNED!
Hey yo, I’m gonna need a right hand man!
*groans*  I’m already dreading this.
“Take all you can carry.”  Arm yourselves to the teeth.  You’re gonna need it.
Also, they did not kill the dog.
Oh thank God.
Just to let you know!
“WE’RE NOT GONNA KILL THE DOG!”
TZE CHUN, THANK YOU!
“What do you [Jim] say, partner?”  Don’t ever say that again.
Yee-haw.
You’ve yee-d your last haw.
*laughs*
*Ed wakes up*  Nooo, who gives a shit about Ed?  Who gives a shit?  I don’t give a shit!
*aside*  It’s gonna become a lot more important.
I like this music here [when Ed investigates the suitcase] actually
*both end up scatting it*
Just sounds like they’re banging a bunch of coconuts together.
*both sing*  BIG ONES, SMALL ONES, SOME AS BIG AS YOUR HEAD!
*imitates Ed saying “I’ve been on a trip!” hand gesture included*
*both tilt our heads in unison to read the message on Ed’s hand*
“KNOWS WHAT?!?”  Me.
Oh my God...
That’s the campaign poster [of Oswald] in S3!
Also I like how the cop cars have the grills and bars on the front and on the windshield.
Yeah... smart move!
“To hell with Penguin.  Haven wasn't your fault.”  “I [Jim] told the people it was safe. I made them into a target.”  You know Penguin’s right there!  He can hear you.
*One of the cop cars drive past Jim*  Don’t park in the puddle!  Noooo that’s what they diddd-
No they didn’t.  Nevermind.
*giggles when Oswald pulls out a megaphone*
“There goes the element of surprise.”  *both laugh*
Oh my God, he freaking winked at Jim!  Oswald, you-
Oh noooo...
*Another shot at the group*  Yep.
“We’re sitting ducks out here.”  “And one Penguin.  Hey Oswald, why don’t you crawl out there, grab that bullhorn, tell him to come out here quietly?”  *both laugh*
*both imitate Oswald’s insulted “Yooouu…”*
“Pretty cozy up here.  Thanks guys.”  C’mon buddy!  C’mon!
*claps hands*  Give us him!
Give us the goods!
Give us!
“Zsasz?!?”  Yassss....
“Oh hey guys, what’s up?”  *both laugh*
Oh my God, I’ve missed him!
*Victor blows Oswald a kiss*  YAASSSS!!
ZSAAAAAAAAAASZZZ...
ZSAAAAAAASZZZZ....
ZSAAAASSSZZZZ HONEY!
ZSAAAASSZZZZ!
*giggles*  Yaaasss....
Oh my God what.  Is that Selina?!?
No, that’s Ed.
Freakin- what is it with him and the bad disguises?!?
But like he got through the entire precinct like that!
Everyone wasn’t paying attention!  If they were paying attention, they would’ve just ripped it [the blanket] off of him!
I know!
“I can still see your face.”  “Not when I do this, you can’t.”
*laughs*
It’s literally that!
It is.
*Ed runs into Lucius*  Ohhh yess!  I really like these two interacting.
Lucius!
“I am given and I am taken.  I was there from your first breath and I will follow you until your death.”  Oh screw off!
Your name.
“Call it a personal matter.”  I love that!
His little poses!
Yes yes!
“Well I'm [Ed] guessing you [Lucius] don't want money, because, uh, it's worthless.  I don't tend to carry snacks on me.  And if I had any bullets, I would just shoot you and take the folder.”  I really want somebody to be like “I’ll give you a load of bullets for a box of Cheez-Its.”  “DONE!”
*laughs*  Would you like the other half of this cosmic brownie?
My God, THIS MAN GOES FREE!
You know who Chris Chalk kinda reminds me of?  The ally guy from “Conquest of the Planet of the Apes?”
Yeah, it does...
Hari Rhodes!  That’s the actor!
*giggles insanely when Ed tries to take the file from Lucius and utterly fails*
What the frick?
“I [Victor] did not make that building go boom, Jim.”  *both laugh*
What a way to say that.
“You gave up any shred of honor long ago!  Why should we believe a snake like you?!?”  “Because I would never take credit for somebody’s else’s work?”  *raises pen in air in agreement*
Well duh!”
“Is this about Sofia Falcone?  You should really move past that.  It’s not healthy.”  *both giggle*
This man...
This man!  He was probably raised in the South.  He would probably go “Hey y’all!  You’ve yee-d your last haw...”
Noooo noooo... he feels more like a California guy.
Yeah... *starts singing the theme song for “The OC”*
*Everyone starts firing at Zsasz*  Zsasz is just like “Nope!’
“Nope!”
That’s the most casual duck.  Just rolls out of the way!
Come on, Jim!
I’m kinda wondering why they never got “Um guys, there’s a freaking concrete wall between windows.  He could just hide behind that!”
Or they could just like aim at an angle.
Yeah...
Get in the room!
This isn’t rocket science.
*both crack up when Zsasz goes for a drink break*
*still laughing*  What an asshole!
*Jim body slams Zsasz to the ground*  WHAA-
LET’S GO!
Right through the snack table!
And they destroyed his bowl of chips.
“[Victor] Glad to see you’re still with us.”  This man has never given a shit in his entire life.
“Thank you, thank you.  You were great.  Glad there are no hard feelings.”  I’ll be here all week.  Try the veal!
*laughs*  That was priceless.
“Allow me [Oswald] to deal with him [Victor].”  No!
No!
“If he did this, I need to know if it was a part of something larger.”  Jim, you’re always a part of something larger!  READ THE SCENE!
Oh my God, they got Zsasz sitting in the back.  Zsasz is probably gonna like try to strike up a conversation.
“So, how was life?”  “Oh my God, shut up....”
It’s that bit in “Civil War:”  “So you like cats.”
“Sam.”
This is Tony Stank!
*Selina follows Ecco and the new followers into the work site*  Oh here we go, here we go.  Here we go!
Oh Jesus... the belly of the beast.
Also, that place must smell like just terrible.
Right?!??!  If this place doesn’t smell like an armpit, then...
*Sykes dies*  ...oh God.
“Well, not with that attitude you’re not.”  *leans far and away from screen*
Bitch.
“Everyone, let’s reach inside and dig a little deeper, shall we?”  You prick.
*turns towards me*  Don’t you dare [sing]
*leans away when Jeremiah licks blood off his knife*  HI THANKS NO BYE!
*both groan in disgust*
YOU NASTY!  YOU TWO [Jeremiah and Ecco] DESERVE EACH OTHER, ya- mmmmmm!
Honestly though, I am kink-shaming.  I am kink-shaming so hard.
*chuckles*  They’re carrying his [Sykes] body out in a wheelbarrow.
OK, but like the Tim Curry voice- that’s an affectation!  He’s just putting that on to sound impressive.
*laughs when Jeremiah stops talking to himself and awkwardly clears his throat when Ecco walks in*
He’s like “Mm-mm!  Sorry!  Helloooo!”
*Jeremiah grabs Ecco by the neck to inspect her scar*  Noooooo...
He’s lookin’ right at the bullet...
Eeuughh...
“Bruce Wayne, and his sidekick Curls?  Or is he the sidekick?”  That’s still such a great line.
“And Curls can walk.  Really well.  Especially… for a paraplegic.”  *done*
*softly laughs in shock*  Oh my God...
*Jeremiah purrs appreciatively at Ecco*  How have these two not eaten each other alive at this point-
*sinks down in chair when Jeremiah dismisses Ecco*  Oh my God, that was a ghost kiss!  I HATE YOU!
“OK recruits, let’s do like my daddy did before my sixth birthday and move out!”  *both laugh*
That is a hell of a line!
*Selina follows Ecco and her group*  Yeah, you see him [Jeremiah] in the background just whip around!
Yeaahhh!
That was like a horror movie thing, where the monster just whips around.  You can imagine a little scare chord in the background.
Right?!?
Also, I like how they establish that relationship in like under a minute.
Yeah...
Like yes, that is how you do it.
That was good.
Eat that, “Suicide Squad!”
“Evidence of deflagration would suggest something with a slower burn rate, like gunpowder or nitroglycerin.”  “But for this level of destruction, that would require a bomb that's 20 cubic feet of explosive material.”  Or a baZOOKA!
People just really love their RPGs in this show.
People just really love bazookas.  Bane uses one in the Bane Red Trailer
“Man walks into a room, alone, and is later found murdered.  There are no windows, and one door, which is locked from the inside.”  *whispers*  Toxic gas.  No I’m kidding.
“The bomb was the building.”  *imitates the way Ed says “the bomb”*
I love that.
*Ed and Lucius figure out how the building blew up*  This makes the forensics class part of me just so happy.
“Ow!  That’s a really nice table.”  *both chuckle*
“We got a dozen witnesses that saw you [Victor] walk out of that building before it went kabooey.”  *in unison*  Kabooey.
“Hey, do you guys have any canned peaches? Man, I'd trade an arm and a leg for that right now. Not mine, somebody else's.”  *both laugh*
Man, I missed him!
I know!  I’m gonna miss him so much!
“And, guys, those were warning shots. I mean, if I really wanted to kill you you'd be dead.”  If you guys could aim in this show.
Right?
I mean it’s not like the *pretends to shoot around something*
“If I blew up a building full of people, I would have covered every inch of my body in sweet, sweet scars.”  Can we see them?
*gives me a weird look*
His scars!  We only see them once [way back in S1].
I’d [Victor] let Alvarez do it.  He’s handsome.”  *both chuckle*
OK, but if the Gotham fandom isn’t already shipping them, I’m gonna be very disappointed.
*tries not to say anything without laughing*
Your stunned silence is very reassuring.
“Looks like you need a new suspect.”  *in Southern drawl*  Looks like it wasn’t Zsasz!
*Oswald arrives at the precinct*  Go to hell!
I love that shot of him.
“I know the wheels of justice turn slowly, so I'm here to provide - a modicum of grease.”  A what of what?
He said “grace” like “grease.”
What of what?  I don’t know.  I don’t know diction anymore.
“Oh, I did not expect you to go soft, Jim... Actually, I did, which is why I didn’t come alone.” OH COME ON!
*nods*
ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?!?
“Torturing- torturing Zsasz into confessing won't give the people justice.”  And it’s not a very effective way of getting answers either!  Because they’re gonna say anything to make it stop.
Also, take a shot every time Oswald refers to Jim as “old friend.”
You’d be dead.
“There will be a trial!”  I still really wanted an episode like the “Trial” episode from the animated series.  That would have been so cool!
*waves at screen when Zsasz gets escorted out*  Bye Zsasz... you’re gonna be high as a kite the next time we see you.
We see him more in this episode.
OK.
The last episode he’s in, he’s just like “Whaauggh!”
*laughs*  What a way to go out though.
Harvey just tackles you?
I mean, if I’m gonna go out, I’m gonna go out high as a paper kite too.
*gives her the strangest look*
*laughs*  You’re judging me so hard!
*shakes head*  I can’t believe you.
I say that like I know what the hell getting high even feels like.
I love that this lazy ass [Haven bomber] just like leaves all the stuff there.  He’s like “Oh, we gotta scatter it!  Kick!”
“I truly hope you find whoever did this and make them pay.”  So he [Ed] didn’t do it.
*shakes my head like the liar I am*
OK...
“I appreciate your help, Ed.  Couldn’t have done it without you.  If you tell anyone I said that, I will deny it.”  *chuckles*
[Ed] You have one friend.  Kind of.
He so badly wants to say “No, god dammit!” but he can’t!
Censorship!
This show isn’t rated high enough.  Let Edward say [expletive]
*wheezes*  He’s not that kind of person who would say that.
Oswald would!
He would.  I made that meme thing!
Yeah that’s true.
Ed would catch himself and go “Oh... fart.”
“PENN, WHERE THE F-”
*both laugh*
Oh, that was brilliant*
*The crowd at the trial becomes unruly*  Fight, fight, fight!
Oh God...
“Look at them, Harvey.”  Not another speech!
Now see, that [mural behind the staircase in Oswald’s place] is like Bioshock!  That big-  isn’t there a big mural in the-
Yeahhh, in the church, yeah!
For the workforce?
I dunno, this is more like OG Bioshock instead of Bioshock Infinite.
Yeah.
Because we’re past the religious stuff.
Ohh the purple lighting behind him [Oswald].
“So, will I [Victor] be appointed a lawyer?  I feel like my rights are being violated.”  I mean, technically they are.
Wait, they actually have somewhere there like transcribing the whole thing [trial]!
I also like that he’s [Oswald] wearing the sash that the choir members wore.
Yep...
He [Oswald] paid off the witnesses though!  This is-
No!  Yeah, they said money is useless, so why would Oswald pay them off?
True... but this is obviously just a sham trial.
It is!  It’s a kangaroo court.  I love “The Dark Knight Rises.”
Also I like that goon in the background that looks like Neo from “The Matrix.”  With the long coat- no, that’s Morpheus.  Nevermind.
“It was a bomb.”  *chuckles*  It was a big one.
“For months now, you've been hearing me [Jim] say help is coming.”  IT AIN’T!
“This is not justice.”  This is where I pull out that quote from the first “Dark Phoenix” trailer and just insert it in here.
“I’ll [Oswald] consider that your [Jim’s] closing argument.”  That was like his opening and closing argument!
Though it did put me in mind of a much better speech from “Camelot”:  “They have forgotten justice, they want revenge, revenge the most worthless of causes.”
*Crowd calls Zsasz guilty*  What the hell were you [Jim] expecting?
Welp.
And Zsasz is like “Great...”  Good job, Jim!
Thanks for that, Jim!
Great job!
There is a guillotineeee!
Oh come onnn!
They probably got it from like the natural history museum. 
Sheesh...
Also, why would they have a guillotine in the natural history museum of Gotham?
Because this place is [expletive] up all the way up to the ears.
“Any last words?”  [Oswald] YOU PUT TAPE ON HIS MOUTH, YOU ASSHOLE!
*laughs when Victor gives his muffled last words*  He’s just stalling, I love it!
“Well said.”  *laughs*
*Victor gets rescued at the last minute*  Ohhh ho ho ho!
Shit, that was close!
*imitates Oswald yelling “WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?”
I actually really hope we see Zsasz in the time jump. 
I hope so.
I will be so happy.
*Jim shoves Oswald to the ground*  MOM, HE PUSHED ME!
You self-serving asshole!
“What choice do I [Jim] have?  Either I let him [Victor] go, or he's dead for something he didn't do.”  Either that or it’s like the final scene from “Se7en.”
*very softly*  Eesh...
WHAT’S IN THE BOX?!?  No.  Zsasz is not up for that.
No.
I think he begrudgingly gets along with Barbara so he wouldn’t do that.
“This city will never be what you it to be, Jim.  It’s always gonna belong to the bad guys… like me.”  Yes.
“What?”  “Yeah, what?”  *scoffs in hilarity*
“Give him your gun.”  OK, I hate this because Jim wants him [Victor] to shoot him. 
Come on...
He wants a shootout!
“Maybe I'm just tired of listening to you, Victor.”  Jim, come on!
*groans in frustration*
I like that shot though [of Victor being offered Harvey’s gun].  It’s like one of the westerns, with the blurry background.
“Do it.”  No...
Jim, what are you, stupid?
*sits back in relief when Victor turns him down* Oh thank God...
“So [Victor] get the hell out of my face.”  So why did he [Jim] want a shoot out?  He just wanted an excuse to arrest him again?
It’s guess it’s just kind of the built up anger.  Plus the fact that everything Jim has tried to do has utterly failed.
Yeah...
So he’s at the end of his rope and given up everything.
That’s true, yeah.
Ooohh that’s [the lighting for that shot of the tunnel workers walking down the hall] cool.
Yeah, where the hell is this?
I don’t know... it looks like an old parking garage.
It does!
*All the tunnel workers get knocked out*  Oh dear.
*claps when Bruce emerges from the shadows and catches up to Alfred*  LET’S GOOOOO!  Yess!
Alfred being a badass!
*laughs when Jeremiah starts fanning himself with his hat*
*done*
*mouths along with Jeremiah’s line about the river, with eyebrows and all*
“So what do we do when we feel like giving up?”  “Dig a little deeper.”   *has to sit forward in an attempt not to laugh/sing*
*still done*
*eyes widen when Selina walks up to Jeremiah and stabs him*
“Deep enough?”  Let’s go.
Damn.
“Well Selina, I must say-“  Yeah, the Tim Curry voice is an affectation.
Yeah.
Stab number two.  Stab number three.
*in unison*  Four.  Five!  Six.  Seven.  Eight.  Nine.
God...
Ho-ly shit!
*Jeremiah drops to the ground*  And he’s alive after that.
*shakes head*
*Selina gets hit in the head with a tool*  Ohhhhhh!  That oughta hurttt!
Yeah.... Jesus.
Also, you noticed like that he [Jeremiah] immediately calmed down like “Oh, it’s not Ecco, oh thank God- oh it’s just Selina.”
*laughs*
*Last shot of Jeremiah in the episode*  He looks dead.
Yeah.  Like how the hell did you survive getting stabbed in the stomach nine times?
Plus, in the next episode, there’s a doctor there.  I think it’s some sort of surgeon.
Still though... damn...
*Ed is exhausted after climbing stairs*  Mood, Ed.
“I hate stairs.”  *laughs*
What a mood!
*sings*  What a mood, what a mood, what a mighty big mood!
[1215]  Oh Jesus...
Oh my gosh, the amount of times I’ve seen a ceramic rooster thing, ugh... that brings me back.
This poor old lady!
“You were on the roof and you had some kind of a rocket.”  *softly*  Oh my God...
*The old woman hits Ed over the head*  HA!
*Ed starts to remember*  Oh my God!  He did it after all!  Oh, you- eat shit, Ed!
*points at screen*  Yeah that’s [the long hair and bowler hat] not a look!
*Ed blow up Haven in a flashback*  Why would he even do it though?
Also, I like these Windows screensaver effects.  *laughs*
Also, I wanna know how he [Ed] got the room number.
“I promise, I won't tell anybody.”  “I know you won't.”  Oh, c’mon, Ed!
No, c’mon!  Ed, no!  No no no!
*Ed shoves the witness out the window to her death*  Eat shit and dieeeee...
*tries not to laugh*  That’s from “Batman Forever!”  Because he pushes the guy out the window in the wheelchair!
Ohhhh, eat shit and dieee-
OK, OK, here’s the thing.  You’re gonna hate this ending because I hate this ending-
Oh God...
Because Jim and Barbara and it’s like-
What...
Yeah...
*yowls in frustration*
*can’t help but laugh*  Same.
“[Barbara] Your tip didn't pan out.”  “Well, I've got another one.”  Nooo.
Jim does not need this right now.
He does not need this right now.
You’ve made a lot of shitty decisions this episode, Jim.
Yeah, everyone has.  And these two have [throughout the show].
“No one knows what it’s like to be him.”  *to the tune of the opening of 2001*  Shuuuutttt upppp!  SHUT UP!
Is this really the time for freakin’ anger sex?
I know!
“I told you to leave.”  No.
*shakes head*
*both say varying degrees of “No” when Barbara gets super close to Jim*
Jim, no.  No.
No.
*Jim grabs Barbara’s arm to stop her*  Jim, no.
MMMMMMM!!!
*bolts out of seat when Jim and Barbara start to make out* 
JIIM, COME ONNN!!!
*in the background*  I’m goin’ out the window, bye!
Jim...
*comes back to seat when end titles appear*  AND THAT IS THE end of the episode!
Nooooo!!  Jiimmm, come on!  COME ON!
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My Reaction to “Gotham” S4E11
Oh snap, we’re getting Falcone back, aren’t we?
What the heck?
What…
“I’m [Sofia] still a Falcone.”  “Yeah, you mentioned that.  About a billion times” Pfftt…
Wait, who’s on the phone?  Who did Sofia just talk to?  Was it her dad?
*Falcone steps out*  EEYYYY!
“Why are you here, Father?”  ‘Cause you done effed up, that’s why.
So far in this show, Carmine is the only person who said that he was leaving Gotham and actually went through with it.
*cough* Unlike Lee *cough*
AN:  In fairness though, she did do it one time at the end of S2, when Jim went to jail.
*gasps when Falcone slaps his daughter*
“I [Carmine] have done many things I will have to answer for, but I always knew the meaning of honor.  You [Sofia] have proven that you do not.” Oh snap!
OH SNAP, PENGUIN CALLED HIM [Falcone]?!?
*scats the opening theme*
What the… heck? Bruce, what did you do?
*Alfred finds Bruce passed out with a bunch of party goers*  Oh God…
Splash water in his face!
*Alfred does so* Thank you.
BRUCE, WHO ARE YOU WITH?!?
*gasps* HE’S [Jim] WEARING THE TAN COAT!
“I’m [Carmine] glad I never killed you [Jim].”  That’s… reassuring.
“Another day, another man sending me out of Gotham.”  Calm thyself down, Sofia.  Dang.
*Sofia kisses Jim goodbye again*  STOP!
This goodbye scene is way too long.  Something is up.
*Sofia pricks her finger on one of the rose thorns*  Oh nooooo…
What the…
*gasps when Falcone and Sofia get shot by an drive-by shooter*
OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED FALCONE!
WHAT THE HECK?!?
That headline at the bottom of the TV forgot to add another space after the colon. There’s two, you guys!  C’mon!
Seriously, what the crap, Bruce?
“There’s a mess in the Rolls.  [Alfred] You’ll need a bucket.”  Dude.
Holy crap, are we getting a Victor subplot?  Finally?
*Victor places one of his bullets in Falcone’s jacket*  Oh my gosh, now you know it’s serious
*Victor leaves the funeral*  Uh oh
Harvey!
They’re [Jim and Harvey] openly discussing arresting Oswald at Falcone’s funeral? Where Oswald is?
Can we take a tally of every time one of the villains has entered the precinct in this show?
“SUIT UP!” God damn, Jim!  You rock!
*cracks up when there’s a smash cut of the Sirens looking super bored while there’s a shoot out outside*
“Yay, teamwork.”  Hahaha
“How is Jim Gordon beating us?!?”  “Well, every cop in Gotham is behind him.  I’m [Victor] guessing he has great leadership skills.”  PFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT
Wait, who called Sofia earlier?
“I’m [Jim] arresting you [Oswald] for the murder of the boy [Martin] you blew up under the Crown Point Bridge.” But he didn’t.
"What’s to tell?  [Oswald] You blew that kid sky high.” *jaw drops*
“And I’ll [Victor] testify to that.”  WHAT?!?
WHY WOULD HE [Victor] LIE?
Oh wait, does this mean we’re gonna see a vengeful, freelance Victor in S5?  
*Victor kisses Sofia’s hand*  Ohhhhh…
Let’s see what Bruce effed up now…
“What’s all this?”  “It’s a little project of mine.  I [Alfred] like to call it Operation Save Bruce Wayne.” Please.
Bruce, go on vacation with Alfred!  Please!
“These past weeks, you know how much I've [Bruce] thought about Ra's al Ghul? About my parents?” None.
“[Alfred] You gonna stop me [Bruce]?”  “If need be, yes.” Please don’t.
*Bruce rolls up his sleeve to fight*  Don’t…
*Bruce tries to fight Alfred*  Oh, I hate this
“Because you’re the only one breathing hard, old man [Alfred].” Um, he’s beating the shit out of you.
*Alfred accidentally hits Bruce to the floor*   OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
“I leave when spurned.  I give all.  I take nothing.  I can raise you to a king or make you a beggar.  What am I?” Love?
Yep.
“You’re [Ed] in love with Lee Thompkins, you pathetic loser.”  Snap!
“Ed angry at… Ed?”  “That is surprisingly perceptive.”  Pfftt…
*ends up mouthing along with the Solomon Grundy playing*
*Tabitha kisses Grundy*  OHHH!
“I’m your Tabby.” Oh this is gonna kill me.
“So you’re gonna remember me, Butch.  Or I’m [Tabitha] gonna beat your head in.”  That’s… a tad bit severe…
Sofia, get your ass up from that wheelchair.  We all know you don’t need it at this point.
*gasps when Lazlo walks in*
Wait, wait… Sofia hired Pyg!
Is this dude literally eating an apple while he’s holding Jim at gunpoint?  Asshole.
WAIT, so PYG KILLED FALCONE?!?
*gasps when Sofia kills Lazlo*
“Why not just kill me?”  Plot.
“This isn’t about Gotham.  This is revenge for me [Jim] killing Mario.”  Oh, finally, that’s brought back up!
“I’m [Jim] at Sofia Falcone’s.  I just shot and killed the Pyg.”  *groans*
Wait, what’s that?
“I [Bruce] went to my lawyer and had him draw up emancipation papers.” OH HE DID NOT
“[Alfred] You’re no longer my legal guardian.”  NO BRUCE NO WHY NO
“Now get the hell out of my house.”  NOPE.  
WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS SHIT AGAIN
OH I HATE THIS
You can actually see Bruce just dying inside while he’s at this stupid party.
*groans in frustration*
Please don’t tell me Harvey dropped off his gun and badge.
Oh my God, he did.
“…what the hell happened to me [Butch]?”  Some shit.
*freezes when another inmate tries talking to Oswald*
Wait a minute…
WAIT A MINUTE…
*gasps*
*Jerome pops up* EEEEEEYYYYYYY!!!
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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My Reaction to “Gotham” S4E2
Just a heads up, there are mentions of suicide in this episode, and this episode gets disturbing because of the hallucinations caused by Scarecrow’s fear toxins.  If this reaction post is uncomfortable for you guys in any way, don’t read. 
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AN:  I managed to record my reactions to this episode and hopefully I can transcribe what I said into this post.
Whoa...
Yeah that’s the old house, where Gerald’s wife died!
Whoa...
Oh my gosh, is that the dead guy [as the new Scarecrow hanging out in the yard]?
Ohh, that’s the Scarecrow hat that he [Jonathan] puts on in the season finale!
*Jim finds the victim from the end of the last episode still screaming*  Oh my gosh, the guy actually had some of the dried up fear toxin around his mouth.  Oh crap.
What the- frick, Bruce?
*Jim walks in to see Bruce in one of the holding cells*  Oooohhhh...
*gasps when Scarecrow appears in the Arkham warden’s office*
HE’S GOT A SCYTHE...
The way he [Scarecrow] kind of twitches his head to the side reminds me of Davy Jones from “Dead Man’s Chest”
*gasps when Scarecrow gives the Warden a face full of fear gas*
OK, here’s my question:  does the fear toxin come as a liquid first then dry?  Because when we see a close up afterwards, it looks like he was just sprayed in the face with water.  You can see moisture!
*gasps*  Lucius!
“What were you [Bruce] doing before that?”  “Rock climbing.”  HaaaaHAHAHA
Is that gonna be the new code name for his outgoings as Batman?  “Rock climbing?”
What the heeeeck?
*yells in horror when the Warden starts seeing a monster clown through the fear toxin*
*gasps when the Warden mistakes the other inmates as other clowns and shoots them down*
Oh my God...
Ooooohhh my gosh...
*gasps when Scarecrow gives one of the Arkham inmates a face full of fear toxin*
Oh my gosh, that drumroll in the background.  Is that Scarecrow’s theme?
“James Gordon?”  *in same tone of voice*  Oswald Cobblepot!
“[Jim] Play nice.”  “No.”  When does Jim ever play nice?
“Instead, let me [Oswald] me make you [Jim] a deal.”  Oh no.
“Find this Jonathan Crane and lock him up within 24 hours or admit to me, your subordinates, and the people of Gotham that you failed, and allow me to clean this city up!”  Jim, c’mon, don’t.
*groans in frustration*
Who the crap is this?
*Barbara enters the room*  Oooohhhhh.... my God.
Uhhh...
Explanations please?  I know it has to do something with Ra’s al Ghul but... what?
*Barbara reveals her new hideout to be a weapons store*  What the...
Oh my God, there’s just machine guns everywhere...
Oh my God, Barbara needs to get rid of that haircut like now!
Oh my God, he’s [Bruce] going back out again.
“Out there, Alfred, I [Bruce] feel more alive than I've ever felt before.“  Oh my God.
Alfred, go out there and freaking stop your boy.
*None of the GCPD officers offer to help Jim take down Scarecrow*  Oh my freaking God
*Harvey refuses to go*  Oh my God, Harvey, go.  No, my God, Harvey.... go with him...
“So I am sorry, partner, but you are on your own on this one.“  Oh my freaking God
Jim’s gonna after Scarecrow and a hundred fear dosed inmates by himself.  Great plan.
Literally no one so far has made any good decisions
WHAT THE-
You see that dude just walking backwards like Reagan from “The Exorcist?!?!?”
AN:  And no, I’m not putting a link to the Spider-Walk scene (original and/or extended or deleted version) in because c’mon.
WHA-
Oh my God, it’s the Warden!
“It’s you.  You [Jim] came!”  *whispers*  Crap!
Wait, did Jonathan take the precaution of just applying like tons of eye black around his eyes [for the mask]?
*cracks up when Victor heart-eyes a gun in a display case*
“Yeah, I’d say it’s open.  Hot damn, it’s like Christmas.”  Heeheeheeheehee!
Why is Ivy still working for Penguin?
“[Barbara] You lost your money on The Sirens Club, then went missing.  Rumor was you were dead.  And now you're back with a brand-new fancy place.  Who paid for it?“  Oh it has to be Ra’s!
“I’m [Victor] gonna take this [gun]....” 
Oh, I like that mirror shot of Jim.  Ooohhh...
Oh my God... is Jim gonna get freaking dosed with fear toxin?  Holy crap, what is he gonna see?
*Jonathan takes off his Scarecrow mask*  Oh my gosh, he did just smear a bunch of eyeshadow across his face... or ash.  I’m gonna say ash.
*gasps when Jim gets a face full of fear toxin*
Oh my God!  Holy crap, what’s he gonna see?
*covers mouth in shock*
“What will you see, I wonder?  One of your victims, perhaps?“  Is he [Jim] gonna see freaking Lee?  Oh God, I hope not.
He’s gonna see freaking Lee like dead or something.
Where the heck is Lee this season?
*groans in frustration and horror when Jim sees Lee bleeding out in a bathtub in the fear toxin*
*ends up dropping my head on the floor*
“We could have been a family, had a child.  You destroy everything you touch.”  Screw this...
Oh my gosh, this is dark.  This is really freaking dark even for Gotham.  Holy snot!  What was the TV rating for this episode, for this specific scene alone?  Oh my God!
Jim, it’s not real.  It’s not real, it’s not real, it’s not real!
*starts slapping my laptop*  Jim, it’s not real.   It’s not real!  It’s not real!  No, no, no, no, no, please do not AAAAAHHHH!!!
“Cut deep.”  *gasps*
No no nononono
*Jim beats the fear toxin*  OHHH!!
He just powered through the fear toxin with sheer will alone.  Bravo, Jim!
I wish there would be a thing as a tracker in this show.  Please.  Please have Lucius come up with such a device in S5 so that Bruce/Batman can use it.  Por favor.
That would make this whole thing just so much easier.
What the heck?
*Some of the robbers remove Bruce’s mask*  How do they not recognize that that’s Bruce Wayne?
“His face, it seems familiar.  You famous or something?“  Yeah, how do they not recognize him?
*Bruce takes down the head robber*  WHOA!
*gasps when Bruce makes an impromptu flamethrower and makes the robbers back off*
*Bruce uses a rope to jump out the window and land on the street*  Whooo!
Oh, that was a smooth landing...
*gasps when Alfred comes to Bruce’s rescue*
“Now, I hate to tell you I told you so, Master Bruce.“  Hehehehehe
Bruce needs like a proper Bat-cowl.
*gasps when Ivy enters the room*
“Know what?  [Tabitha] You’re rude.”  Oooh.  That’s a big insult.
*Jim sprays one of the infected inmates in the face with a fire extinguisher*  Oh my gosh...
“Water!”  Oh my God, are you freaking serious?
Wha- pull the fire alarm! 
Wait, so water deactivates the fear toxin, what?
*gasps*  Lucius!
Oh my God, did Lucius freaking make Bruce a Proto-Batsuit?
MVP of the episode, right freaking there.
*gasps in delight when we get our first look at the Proto-Batsuit*
“Oh, and long distance radio communicators.  In case you two wish to talk to each other whilst climbing rock.“  Heeheeheehee
Yaassss!
“Selina said you [Tabitha] would need something from me [Barbara].  You can have anything you like.”  “Fine.  I’ll take your hand.”  What?
Oh my God...
Is it gonna be like Jaime Lannister- she’s [Barbara] gonna get herself a gold hand?  Or how is that gonna work?
Ohhhh, she [Tabitha] can’t do it...
Where the crap did Jonathan go?
“Which ones make me [Ivy] stronger?”  “That's dangerous stuff!  It's too powerful for you.  It can get in your blood, your DNA.”  She’s gonna drink freaking all of them, isn’t she?
*Ivy drinks all of the potions*  She gonna age up again?
“We’d [Harvey and Jim] need an army to take on Penguin.”  An army of what?
What about that list?  Bruce has that list of all the people that have the licenses!
“Ooh, that's a lovely leap, Master Bruce; positively gazelle-like.“  *chuckles*
Whoa...
*We get our first full look of Bruce in his Proto-Batsuit*  OK, it’s a start... definitely makes him look like a motorcycle gang member but it’s a start.
*jams out to the ending theme*
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