#the dokkaebi king

[orphiclovers]

Dokkaebi King: Are you sure you want to look, my God?

Han Sooyoung: I need to remind myself of the reason I'm doing all this in the first place.

Kim Dokja: ...I am completely alone in this world, huh...

[purrfectlycontent]

the newest chapter has me thinking about kdj’s relationship with the fourth wall

[briebysabs]

You ever wonder if Kim Dokja looks a lot like his dad? That’ll give even more oomf to having his father’s face shadowed in the webtoon. Think about that from the oldest dream’s perspective then. The first time someone approached to kill you with a blade was your own father. The second time was your future self who ended up looking like him. And the only thing you can utter when making the connection is “monster”…..

[freyadragonlord]

Bear with me..........

Side Story has been loosely tracing events from the main ORV novel all along.

Right now, the Main Team is locked into a battle against an enemy that they don't wish to kill. This enemy, as well, is not fighting out of his own free will, but because the Star Stream / the Dokkaebis forced him into the role of a villain.

This scenario, we saw it before in ORV.

Yes, sure, it's tue 10th scenario, the birth of the Demon King of Salvation...... but not only that.

This is the fifth scenario, too. This is just like when kimcom was fighting against 41st round Yoosung.

What if Hakhyun manages to save DKOS's soul and/or stories, have him reincarnate?

[kirvia]

process for this illustration

[shwizles]

Because this story is only for that one reader.

[manhwamuneca]

Some scenes that had me cackling, the goblin kings so cute!

[rusquared]

hey. does kdj × 4th wall make sense to anyone who isnt named ru

[tnyhua]

[great dokkaebi 'bihyung' has voted for your story.]

[orviposition]

pls tell me it's not true that ebook removed "let's meet again" of joongdok I'm crying why they would do that!! 😭😭😭

yeah they did.

the new line is "please live, yoo joonghyuk"

[orv-quotes-tournament]

ORV Quotes Tournament Round 1

Plain text under the cut:

Ch 512: The Oldest Dream, I: The Wenny King wished to shout out so desperately. To shout out, please look this way. Please, I'm right here. Please, look at me just once. And then, 'that' slowly shifted its head. However, by the time its gaze reached where the Wenny King was, the latter was no longer existing in that place.

Ch 492: Omniscient Author's Viewpoint, VI: Han Sooyoung watched the incoming wave of the stars and muttered out. "Even in places you didn't bother to look, we managed to eke out a living.”

[immortal-tale]

It's our adorable dokkaebi 🥰

[metanarrates]

what do you think about the implications that the fourth wall/dokkaebi king is Jesus

i'm not sure it's an important piece of information in itself, frankly! i believe that someone COULD draw out that piece of info and construct a lot of meaning from it, but to me, it's just a fragment of the larger idea. the dokkaebi king is not just jesus - he is a representation of every founding myth and story in all the world.

so he is jesus. he is god. he is lucifer. I'm sure he is also yggdrasil, or the fates from greek mythology, or any other mythological idea that explains how the world is founded. or any important myth, too. I haven't read the epic of gilgamesh, but I would bet real money that something around him at least references it.

it's not even that any of these figures are his real identity, either. it's implied he doesn't quite have one. the way orv's universe functions, everything is just another incarnation of an older and deeper story. the dokkaebi king himself doesn't know where he originated. he is a representation of the concept of "the founding story," if you will. a story that seems responsible for the origin of everything, but is, in itself, a text whose origin is slightly shrouded in mystery. a final boss who seems like he might be responsible for all the world's evils, but who is ultimately a character in a text, and who by definition cannot be the author or reader who made the constructed reality of the fictional world.

I suppose you can draw a savior/jesus story out of his role as the fourth wall, but I also personally don't see it that way. the dokkaebi king represents not just the text of twsa, but literally all literature and mythology. and while he does protect kim dokja in this role, it is not an unambiguously good or healthy thing, as jesus allegories tend to treat the concept of saviorism. since kim dokja uses fiction itself as a coping mechanism to dissociate himself from daily life, the fourth wall becomes his shield. this makes it so the fourth wall represents both fiction itself AND fiction as a coping mechanism AND fiction as a way of understanding and interpreting the world. its a very multilayered allegory. and while orv ultimately settles on his usage of fiction being an overall good thing, it is HIGHLY nuanced and not afraid to point out how the thing that saves him can also be a hindrance at times. which is sort of antithetical to a jesus allegory lol

[lee-hakhyun]

hsy also had a conversation with the 1863rd dokkaebi king/fourth wall before dying. ill need a little more time to comb through that

[bidokja]

damn, shadowbringers is just like orv for real

[limelocked]

like something something martyn either partnering with a powerful sponsor that lets him move around the universe as he wishes or gunning to become a constellation meanwhile grian somehow gambles his way into becoming a dokkaebi or something because honestly sitting on his ass waiting for the end of scenarios doesnt seem his style even if he Does hate authority