#the judge from hell 1x04

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"You said we'd never see each other again." "I changed my mind." THE JUDGE FROM HELL 1x04

[nataliescatorccioapologist]

I visited the WGA library to read Yellowjackets scripts and wanted to share some of my findings! (Pt. 1)

So as some of you may know, scripts for the latter half of Yellowjackets Season 1 have already been released to the public (you can find 1x05-1x10 here: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1FctrMniXqWRFJOe-rX6dSgvmXEO2KyLE?usp=share_link) and the Pilot script is pretty easily accessible on the internet if you look it up.

However, I have never been able to find the scripts for the rest of S1. An old draft of 1x04 can be found on Script Slug but A LOT has been changed from this script to the final product (Van is dead, Nat actually killed her dad, Javi is called Cody?!). It’s an interesting read for sure but it seems the actual final script of “Bear Down,” along with “F Sharp” and “Dollhouse,” are not accessible on the internet. So I headed over to the WGA Library and checked out those three scripts to read! It was super interesting (highly recommend going if you’re in the LA area!). I was not able to get any pictures of the scripts due to the Library policy, but I took lots of notes and saved some of my favorite lines!

I’m going to start with 1x02 and make two separate posts of 1x03 and 1x04 because otherwise this post would be way too long!

1x02 “F Sharp”

•The episode starts with Misty’s POV of the crash, and there’s this line that I love:

“Across from her, Lottie reaches forward to desperately clutch Laura Lee’s hand in the aisle. Their shared terror making it all the more clear that, in this moment, Misty is all alone.”

This shows Misty’s longing for companionship and affection. Even in what she thinks might be her last moments, she is utterly alone. I think this moment is part of what tips her over the edge into obsession in her relationships with Coach Ben, Crystal, and Natalie.

•In the final product, we don’t really see what Nat’s POV of the plane crash is (other than her nightmare in 1x03 but I’m not sure if that actually happened or not?) but in the script she gets knocked unconscious and buried under a bunch of luggage and equipment and the other girls have to dig her out.

•Misty and Taissa are the ones to pry the exit door open for everyone to escape.

•Jackie doesn’t even try to save Van in the script, she just immediately runs over and tries to drag Shauna away from Van from the get-go.

“Jackie runs after Shauna and starts clawing at her, trying to get her to move toward the exit.”

•After Shauna and Jackie make it outside the wreckage, Jackie and Shauna “begin fighting angrily in the dirt, Jackie clearly still desperately afraid to remain so close to the fiery wreckage” as Shauna tries to go back in for Van.

•And I just thought this descriptor was a cute little addition; after Misty chops off Coach Ben’s leg, we get this line:

“And as we realize this little show called ‘Yellowjackets’ is sick, unexpected and awesome, we smash cut to—

MAIN TITLE”

•“Laura Lee trying in vain to hold and comfort a struggling, hyperventalating Javi.”

A nice little moment of Laura Lee comforting Javi as he’s trying to find his dad.

•”Jackie: For the record, I was trying to save you. I thought…

I was going to lose you. Jackie bites her lip, a little teary. Shauna glances at her and nods, I know—but we also get the sense that Van isn’t the only one judging Jackie right now.”

A little Jackie/Shauna moment. You can see how much Jackie loves Shauna, but Shauna is still conflicted over Jackie’s choice to leave Van behind.

•Some things Caligula says when Natalie breaks into Misty’s house:

“Hello, pretty lady!”

“Hells bells! My dogs are barking!”

Love this.

•The information Misty has in her secret file: articles and magazine covers about the crash, press clippings, a local wedding announcement for Shauna and Jeff, Taissa’s campaign flyer, and a brochure for Natalie’s rehab clinic.

•When Nat asks Misty why she has all of this information, Misty says:

“You guys are the most important people in my life.”

Just another reminder that Misty’s whole existence revolves around the Yellowjackets, even after 25 years.

•Nat is hyper focused on looking at Travis’s drivers license in the bar scene when Kevyn walks up to her. She totally ignores Kevyn, just focused on Travis’ picture. She is described as looking “pale” and “like she’s seen a ghost.” Just shows how hung up Nat is on Travis and how much that relationship fucked her up.

•Misty says “Holy macaroni” when she sees Coach Martinez’s body. Insane.

•Okay brace yourselves for this one guys, in the script Coach Martinez is STILL ALIVE when they find him impaled on the tree.

“The coach’s eyes pop open. He suddenly grabs Travis. Eyes wild with pain and fear, the coach tries to speak but only makes raspy sounds as blood bubbles at his lips.”

“Travis: Dad! Let go!”

Travis’s dad won’t let go and there’s a scene where Travis is trying to claw him off of him, then the tree branch cracks and Travis shakes his dad off of his arm, “knows it’s his dad or the both of them” and the tree branch falls.

Wow. As if the scene that ended up making it in the final product wasn’t traumatic enough, Travis has to actively let his dad fall to his death when he’s still alive and desperately clinging to him? Ouch. I’m glad they cut that scene honestly poor Travis.

•Shauna is holding Javi and comforting him during and after this scene.

“We see Shauna still comforting Javi, we can’t hear what she’s saying but her body language is very giving—a maternal streak she didn’t know she had.”

Love the nod to Shauna’s maternal nature here. She’s naturally very nurturing and caring, but after she loses her baby she becomes more cold and distant with her other child, Callie, in fear that she will lose her too. I just love seeing the before and after here, we get to see what Shauna was like before all of the trauma. Shauna wants to nurture Callie, it’s a natural part of her personality as this scene with Javi shows, but she can’t get too attached after what happened in the Wilderness.

•In the adult timeline, there’s another deleted scene in which Nat drives to Shauna’s house and spies on her from outside.

“She seems to be fighting an impulse to get out of her car, but her feelings are unclear. Does she look uneasy? Vindictive?”

Another hint the conflict between these two that we still haven’t seen yet? Maybe this is lingering resentment from Shauna challenging Nat’s leadership as the new Antler Queen?

•When Nat hands Travis her flask to drink from after the whole Coach Martinez incident, there’s this line:

“She wants to tell him there is nothing he could have done. How guilt like this is poison, and if he’s going to blame himself she will punch him in the face”

I think this is clearly a nod to Nat’s own guilt around her father’s death. She knows that Travis is likely tearing himself apart inside because she did the same thing after her father’s death. She blamed herself, as Travis is doing now. Also love the punching him in the face line, it’s very on-brand for Nat and honestly wish she had punched him in the face a few times when he deserved it.

*1x03 and 1x04 notes to come!*

[mysteriesofloves]

If Gossip Girl had done more of a committed Dan/Blair academic rivals arc during the high school years (as opposed to the 2-3 very good but short episodes that we got), what do you think that might have looked like, and how might it have played out? For me it’s easy to imagine how Blair would act, but I’m a little less sure about Dan. Presumably for a good academic rivals arc he’d have to do some light scheming against her (since if it was only ever the other way around it’d just be straight up bullying lol), but while I can imagine how season 4-5 Dan would act (a la 4x13), I’m less sure about high school Dan, who was… softer, for lack of a better word. Curious about your thoughts!!

good question! since we never see them actually in class it’s unclear whether the classes are co-ed or not but tbh these two are so competitive especially with each other that it doesn’t matter all that much because they could make a rivalry out of anything.

i think a better descriptor for early seasons dan would be uncorrupted—especially s1. so i think a true rivalry, fit with scheming, would have to take place in s2, but with s1 providing a good setup: the essay contest.

the contest would be open to both schools, and post-1x11 with dan being published in the new yorker, he thinks he’s a shoe-in for the win. like, he’s not even thinking that there’s any competition. and then blair wins it. and she’s not surprised, but dan is astounded. rethinking his entire life. how is blair waldorf a better writer than him? surely she isn’t, and she’s just blackmailing the judges or manipulating the results somehow.

i think canonically the essay contest takes place at the end of s1 as it makes the most sense for no one showing up for blair: serena is dealing with georgina, things are weird with nate, her mom is working. i think there’s some good 1x04 paralleling that could happen here: dan noticing that no one is going to be there to support blair and kind of begrudgingly going, not because he cares or anything, but because he might as well hear the essay that beat out his. he sees her up at that podium like he saw her in the hallway: stripped down to the bone, looking out into the crowd for someone, anyone, that cares about her (it is however crucial that she does not see him!!! that’s still gotta come out through the reading of inside).

and then she reads out the winning essay, and we watch dan’s face as he realizes that—shit. she’s good. she’s not just intelligent, she’s eloquent and persuasive and thoughtful.

maybe she’s not a better writer than him, but she’s sure as hell giving him a run for his money.

so we’ve set them up as academic equals, both believing themselves to not only be better than the other, but more deserving of acclaim (which, really, is more dangerous than anything). from here: they turn everything into a competition that only the two of them are in.

where the scheming comes in…i agree that i can’t see s1-2 dan scheming in the same way he does in 4x13 (in fact, it’s with blair that he’s always scheming, and he really learned how to from the best), so i think it’s more along the lines of…emotional manipulation. that’s kind of harsh phrasing, but pretty much what we see in 2x08. i think that blair knows that dan buys none of her pretences and sees right through her and so his opinion of her must be the truth, and it’s why she’s always taking his advice/listening to him. so—after blair, like, gets dan’s papers thrown out or gets him wrongfully investigated for academic dishonesty or something, dan uses his best weapon against her: his words. he gets under her skin, makes her doubt herself before a big test or a big presentation. says, well, i’m sure you know what you’re doing but it was even hard for me, i’m almost worried i won’t do well, but then again, if i don’t make it to yale it’s not that big of a disappointment, i’m not a legacy like you.

and when blair inevitably fucks up because he’s always able to get to her, he feels really fucking bad about it. cue something similar to how he got her the job back; probably taking the fall for it and getting her a redo.

i think it’s also unclear whether they had separate valedictorians for each school but for the purposes of this, they wouldn’t. there’d only be one. cue an episode or two dedicated to an increasingly high stakes election, each of them running a campaign, making their friends choose sides. it causes actual drama! they’re both super insufferable about it!! and then, of course: nelly yuki wins.

i also think it would be fun to incorporate storylines à la rory and paris in gilmore girls: school paper, student council (they’re each the head representative/president for their respective school). also all of this would be running parallel to getting to see them try not to kill each other during rehearsals for the play of course.

[afan1]

The Wilds: Season 1 Rewatch

SPOILER WARNINGS — While it is an episode recap, there may be spoilers for the entirety of season 1 of The Wilds. Continue reading at your own risk if you haven’t seen all of it yet.

1x01 Recap 

1x02 Recap

1x03 Recap

1x04 Recap

The Wilds | 1x05: Day Seven

Favorite Quote

"We all know she can't survive the wilderness by herself, she can't even survive a Holiday Inn." — Leah Rilke

Personal Highlights of the Episode

The impersonations of Fatin by the girls.

The sequence that flips back and forth with Fatin practicing the cello and partying. Two sides of the same coin, but 99% of people only judge her based on one side of her.

“I’m not fucking crazy!” I know most people either love/hate Leah, but jfc Sarah Pidgeon is an excellent actor and plays Leah’s moments to perfection, especially during her non-verbal scenes. The emotion she displays with just facial expressions is just fantastic.

If you guys don’t know by now, I’m a Leatin whore (but like, even at a basic BFF level too. I’ll take any and all forms) so THE highlight is the makeup hug.

Things I Didn't Catch the First Time

These girls just strolling through the woods with no means of protection. Dot should know better. Why haven’t they at least sharpened a tree branch or something? Even a blunt branch would be better than nothing.

Shelby and Toni catching eyes while they sit by the fire waiting for the water to boil and Martha counting. Then Shelby stealing a second glance back to Toni? The Shoni clues were subtle and built up perfectly throughout the season.

Observations / Theories / Questions

Everything during this episode just screams “Don’t underestimate Fatin.” Everyone at some point underestimates her and it blows up in their face. Fatin’s dad, the girls thinking Fatin wouldn’t rip her own pants, Leah in general, Gretchen, Dot/Shelby/Rachel when they immediately assume she was just painting her nails, and most likely the agent too (even though we don't see them interact with her much). 

THEORY – Fatin’s interview reveals big ass information going forward, whether it be Nora’s fate or something they find out in season 2, which is why Fatin has the shortest interview out of all the girls. Most of the episodes have the girls talking to the agents sporadically throughout it, Fatin gets one sequence and it’s all about believing Leah’s theories. Then all three looking back and forth between each other? It’s weird as hell. And what do we learn this episode? Fatin is really good at reading people. Fatin, per her father, has no respect for authority figures. While I believe all the girls are skeptical of the agents, all of this leads me to believe Fatin will be the first one we see actually fight back against them during the interview.

THEORY – The agents and Gretchen will focus on Leah unraveling their experiment, but in reality, it’s going to be Fatin. She’s the only one that listened to Leah from start to finish (I think the other girls will get on board at some point in season 2) and she’ll be the one that silently questions things when Leah verbally brings it to attention. Fatin blows things up when she’s 100% certain and covers her ass in the process, whereas Leah reacts impulsively and it bites her in the ass most of the time. Therefore, Leah will react too soon, and Gretchen’s team will shut it down, BUT Fatin comes in to save the day when they make the same mistake everyone else does and underestimate her.

Fatin is super critical of her mother (calling her Dragon woman), but immediately takes her side when shit goes down with her dad. We even see Fatin admit to Leah later in the season that she misses her mom. Her mom that we only ever see push her to be better. Fatin’s mom is probably the only person who has never underestimated her and knows exactly what she has the potential to be.

THEORY – Fatin is painted early on as Daddy’s Little Girl and even told by him that “You’re just like your dad, kid.” I think Fatin’s biggest fear is that she really is just like her father, even after telling him that they’re nothing alike. I think, while on the island, we will see Fatin transition into the person her mother has always seen in her: driven, passionate, strong, and successful. Fatin is not like her father; she will be exactly what we’ve seen her mother be pre-scandal. A powerful woman whose success is her own. This is also why I can’t see Fatin’s mom staying with her husband permanently. Everything we’ve seen of her screams that it’s out of character for her to stay with a man cheating on her.

Leah’s emotional distraught over Fatin being lost after dragging her every chance she got earlier. The voice crack when finding Fatin. Not criticizing Fatin for just painting her nails like Rachel, Shelby and Dot do. Where my Leatin stans at?

Not that I’m experienced in any capacity when it comes to infidelity, but like, wouldn’t the smart move be to not have your tablet on full display in the kitchen when you’re receiving/sending nudes? You’re rich (or your wife is anyway), Mr. Jadmani, buy a damn burner phone or something.

“Stop fighting, you’ll see everything gets easier.” Hearing this after knowing what Martha’s backstory is… wow. 

It’s completely fucked that Fatin’s mom lost her listings because her husband cheated on her. Like what kind of logic is that bullshit? This asshole literally sitting right beside her putting the blame and consequence on HER. SHE won’t be able to show her face, dude, what the fuck about you? Society is fucked, man.

Alex is the only one on Gretchen’s team that I like. 

THEORY – I think he’s the one that blows this whole operation open when the girls get rescued. He’s gonna be the one to side with them if/when it goes to court, even if it means incriminating himself. OR Gretchen is going to frame Alex for the death of Jeanette and he’ll go down for her murder. He obviously carries a lot of guilt over her death, and probably will accept his fate if it comes to that.

Why the hell we throwing a whole ass book into the fire when you should be tearing pages out to prolong the longevity of the fire? 

Fatin’s social awareness is not talked about enough. She’s the only one that notices Leah’s in her head after finding Jeanette’s body missing, she notices Leah has separated herself from the group after finding Fatin and is the one that approaches Leah to make amends, she knows exactly what needs to be done to calm her mom down (lipstick), etc.

I think it’s a nice comparison to the flashbacks with her dad when Fatin is the one to initiate the making up with Leah. We see that Fatin makes ZERO effort to apologize to her parents about leaking the nudes, and I think both these scenes really cement the fact that Fatin won’t apologize for something she thinks is right. Her belief in her own ethics and morals will never be put on the back burner to make someone else feel better, but that doesn’t mean she won’t apologize when she knows she’s partially to blame or out of line.

Final thought – Fatin is underrated as hell, and the layers to her character are subtle enough that she really does appear basic to anyone who isn’t actively paying attention to her. She’s a very complex and well-written character. I have a hard time picking a favorite out of the girls, but Fatin is definitely up there.

Field Notes

Field Note #051—Fatin’s mom is one of the top real estate agents in the Bay Area. She sells big-ticket properties in San Francisco and the East Bay, and prides herself in hosting the best open-house events. One of her secrets is playing classical music at just the right volume to make the house feel classy yet cozy.

Field Note #052 – Cellists and other string performers can’t keep long nails because they interfere with technique.

Field Note #053 – Fatin only goes for college dudes. Her take on high school guys? They haven’t done enough living. If a guy doesn’t have a monthly car payment or do his own laundry, how can he be trusted in a hook-up context?

Field Note #061 – How each girl learned to swim: Martha took a class with her mom; Toni would sneak into her neighbor’s above-ground pool by night until she kind of just taught herself; Rachel and Nora had private lessons; Fatin’s grandparents had an infinity pool; Leah learned in Lake Tahoe at a family reunion; Dot went to the quarry; and Shelby’s dad threw her into the country club pool sink-or-swim style.

Field Note #062 – The waterfall is an especially good water source because the water is moving, decreasing the chances of bacteria.

Shelby Curse Count: 3 (4 total)

[iknownowmerlin]

merlin rewatch - 1x04: the poisoned chalice

a series of posts in which i record my thoughts and reactions as i properly watch the entirety of bbc’s merlin for the very first time 😊

so much merthur,, and it’s only episode 4

lmao gaius is judging merlin so hard rn, man merlin’s a sucker for a pretty face

nimueh is indeed quite pretty

merlin and arthur are already so comfortable with each other it’s ridiculous

merlin looks adorable arthur fight me

arthur turning back to smile at merlin while his father puts an end to a war sure

also can’t help but enjoy seeing merlin wearing the pendragon seal

they’re really going all out with the red and blue this episode

oh gwen :(( ignore merlin he doesn’t deserve you

i get that nimueh doesn’t have much to lose here but this is such a convoluted way to go about… whatever it is she’s trying to achieve 

i want to be mad at merlin for just believing her but honestly what else is he supposed to think, certainly not the truth

arthur immediately looks so concerned for merlin bc he just knows there’s no way this ends well for him

nimueh could not have possibly known that this is how things would play out

namely because uther is once again being utterly unreasonable, making merlin drink from the chalice makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

“then you should have schooled him better” like what????

arthur trying to take the goblet from merlin,,, gwen stepping towards merlin,,,,, merlin drinking knowing full well he’s going to die,,,,,, arthur rushing over to him the second he collapses,,,,,,,, 😭😭😭😭

arthur does not hesitate a single moment i m

okay i gotta point out that gaius doesn’t seem particularly distressed that merlin is dying an apparently slow and painful death

morgana and gwen are both such sweethearts :((

okay this uther and arthur scene is so fucking good, the contrast between the two of them is beautifully shown and in a situation where neither of them is wrong

nimueh smiling like arthur going to save merlin is exactly what she wanted. you!! did not know!! this was going to happen!!

also what the hell is your plan!!

again, we see a highly perceptive gwen

aaaand now merlin is moaning and groaning arthur’s name in his sleep. not much to add here 

“i know this place” bitch didn’t you just say you were lost

arthur will just not give up on merlin

our very first ‘why do you care so much about your servant?’ moment

every time uther crushes that flower i gasp

arthur reaching for the flower 🥺

RUN GWEN RUN

holy shit gaius doing magic!! i’d never seen this before!!

honestly gaius you’re as bas as merlin, gwen could have walked back in at any moment

stop blaming yourselves 😢

gwen kissing merlin in the moment is sweet and gwen is sweet

would have loved to see arthur’s reaction in the future to somehow finding out that gwen and merlin had once kissed

“the truth about nimueh” ooooh ~secrets~

the entirety of this last scene is just so much i can’t

arthur checking up on merlin, smiling when he sees he’s okay, wiping off his smile before beginning to speak to him, generally trying to act like he doesn’t care when he so clearly does, merlin calling back for arthur, the fucking loaded looks when they’re thanking in each other in what is probably their first completely genuine moment in which arthur for just a second drops all pretenses

yeah so i’m literally tearing up anYWAY

there goes the fourth wall

[bensonstablers]

I loved their scenes together it was funny and very charged and of course I loved seeing Rio on this whole new situation but this fake pregnancy isn’t it. I hope this storyline end in the next episode or at worst in 3x5. Also I hope this isn’t actually the bombshell Manny was referring to.

Hi, anon, sorry for the delayed reply! :)

I really love their scenes and Rio was really great in 3x03 but I totally get where you’re coming from! I’m actually going to include something that I wrote elsewhere about the episode:

“At the end of the day, I’m reluctant to call this episode a favourite but I did have a wonderful time watching it. It was by no means perfect but, as of now, a lot of my concerns are minimal and more about what might happen from here and how things might progress. I could talk in detail, for example, about how a fake pregnancy is a flimsy way to push the story along permanently (basically, it can’t last) but for all I know, the writers have already included another solution to stop Rio from killing Beth (and continuing to work with her) in a later episode. There’s a lot of things that can’t be fully judged without the bigger picture but I will say this, I had a great time watching this episode and I’m pleasantly optimistic to see what’s to come.”

To be honest, I don’t think the pregnancy lie was a total surprise and to me, it makes sense. Especially in the heat of the moment and to be fair to Beth, it’s the one thing that she can guarantee will stop Rio from killing her because she (and the audience) can be pretty confident that he would never harm a child. There’s also the fact that she’s probably not at the top of her game right now considering she believed he was dead. I don’t know. Was it stupid? Yes but I get it, ha.

And I’m in two minds about it being the bombshell Manny was talking about? To be fair, it did stop Rio from killing Beth and considering he can’t do that, he’s probably going to make her life hell as much as possible by doing things like having Mick babysit her or wanting to see how she makes counterfeit money (and seemingly demanding a share/claiming it as his business).

Regardless, I think you’ll get what you want with the pregnancy lie ‘cause as I said before, it’s a flimsy way to push the story along and so, it can’t last. Her lies are bound to be found out at some point and when they are, he’ll want to kill her again, in fact, he might be even angrier. I mean, all the pregnancy lie really needs to do is provide enough time so that a) Rio won’t want to kill her anymore (note: that doesn’t mean he has to forgive her or like her again, he just needs to move on and/or find something else in replace of killing her), or b) Beth can come up with something else that will give her a pass and give him enough reason to want to stick around her.

I’m thinking of the pregnancy lie as a way to hit pause so the girls can figure out something better and more long term and also for the writers to have Rio get used to being around Beth again. He spent months away from her and at least some of that must have been spent thinking about what he would do. However, she wasn’t physically there and that degree of separation (along with the healing he would have had to go through and the months away from Marcus) would most likely make it easier to consider killing her but I wouldn’t be surprised if being around her again would muddy things in his head. Again, that doesn’t mean he has to forgive her or even like her.

So far this season, Beth, Annie and Ruby have done things in stages whether it be personal, money, or business-related. They’ve taken it one step at a time and so I think it does make sense that dealing with Rio’s return is also done in a similar fashion. Basically, I’m hoping the writers have done it so that the pregnancy lie just one stage/reason in this whole thing and that there will be other things along the way?

Personally, I’ve had a good time so far and we are only three episodes into a sixteen-episode season. Considering the first four episodes usually act as some kind of introduction to the season, I’m not overly concerned about where things might go from here. I mean, think about it:

1x01, 1x02, and 1x03 have the girls trying to solve their problems by robbing a store but then having to commit more crimes to pay back the gang they accidentally robbed. They do that but Beth throws a spanner in the works by leaving her pearls for Rio. 1x04 is about transitioning from that into the girls actually working crime properly.

2x01, 2x02, 2x03 has the girls dealing with the fallout of season one and with having to clean up one ‘final’ problem which is Boomer. They essentially do that but a spanner is thrown into the works as Rio gives Beth the keys to the kingdom. 2x04 acts as a transition as Beth goes from thinking she can live a normal life and help with the dealership to having sex with Rio and then him pushing in on the dealership.

So far, with season three we’ve had 3x01, 3x02, and 3x03 show us what the girls (and even Rio) have been doing and what they’ve been dealing with since the end of season two. It’s new territory this time and mostly has the girls navigating new waters as they stick with crime but have to do everything themselves. The spanner in the works comes a little sooner but that’s Rio coming back into their lives and his desire to kill Beth. I can see (and of course, it hasn’t aired yet so I don’t know for sure,) that 3x04 will be about transitioning from what we’ve seen so far into what’ll be the main catalyst for the rest of the season. Just like we ended 1x04 with the girls offering to clean fake cash, and 2x04 with Rio wanting in on the dealership. Perhaps 3x05 will also serve this purpose as well considering it’s a longer season but we’ll have to see.

Regardless, because of that, I do think the pregnancy lie will either be left behind entirely by the end of 3x04 (or 3x05) and that something else will come up in place of it. We’ll then be catapulted into the rest of the season which at this point, looks most likely that Rio will decide to take over Beth’s work-life as much as he can and take control again. We’re supposedly going to find out he has bosses and what not so I could see him taking over Beth’s work-life transitioning into the wider crime world and Beth being dragged into that as he needs help with dealing with it :)

But I really do understand where you’re coming from! Even though I do think the pregnancy thing makes sense and could work (for now), it’s not I expected them to go with, ha. Hopefully, a lot of things get straightened out a little in the next couple of episodes! :)

[stahlop]

Once Upon a Time 2x06 “Tallahassee” Review

Reviews 1x01 1x02 1x03 1x04 1x05 1x06 1x07 1x08 1x09 1x10 1x11 1x12 1x13 1x14 1x15 1x16 1x17 1x18 1x19 1x20 1x21 1x22 2x01 2x02 2x03 2x04 2x05

The mystery man from the season premiere is finally revealed and he is Henry’s father! And apparently a complete asshole. As is August. Ugh! I get that forces apparently had to converge together to get Emma pregnant so she could put Henry up for adoption and Regina could adopt him, but did she have to be betrayed by the man she loved to do that? No wonder Emma’s such a tough cookie and doesn’t let people in. Also, Emma in the past will be referred to as young Emma to distinguish the two.

Summary: Emma and Hook climb a beanstalk to find the magic compass that will get her and Mary Margaret back to Storybrooke. In Emma’s past, we meet Henry’s father and how she ended up in jail (and how she acquired the yellow bug).

Opening: Growing beanstalk

New Characters:

Neal: I know he was in new characters previously as Mystery Man, but since we actually know who he is now, I’m putting him in here again. Also, my initial reaction to him was correct, I hate him. We first meet Neal in Portland, OR as he pops up in the backseat of the yellow bug young Emma steals. She thinks he’s the owner, but it turns out he’s also a thief, so, of course, she feels a kinship with him. Now, I’m not sure why, but the costumers did nothing to make him look any younger in this flashback, so he just seems like a creepy, older pervert using a young girl to help him with his stealing exploits. I’m not sure how old he’s supposed to be, but he���s at least 21 since he repeatedly asks young Emma out for a drink and she’s only supposed to be 17. But, I’m guessing he’s more between 23-25, even though he looks his real age which is around 35. Anyway, he gets out of a cop pulling them over by being completely misogynistic with the cop, and they go on their way. We next see him and young Emma in a convenience store and she’s very pregnant, and he refers to her as his wife. Neal distracts the cashier from him and young Emma shoplifting by asking him directions to Eugene on a map. A customer comes in and notices them stealing so young Emma pretends to go into labor. This whole scene is hilarious. They leave and we find out that young Emma is not pregnant and that she was using the bag under her dress to collect the pilfered items. And then they’re kissing in the car. Ew! They go to a motel and grab a room that a family is leaving and happens to not close the door all the way. Well, that’s lucky. Young Emma notices a dreamcatcher and explains what it is to Neal. He calls it flypaper for nightmares. He thinks they should keep it. They’re still living in the bug so young Emma doesn’t find that feasible. Neal suggests getting a real place together. Young Emma is skeptical and even suggests Neverland, which angers Neal slightly. He finds a picture of a map and tells young Emma to point to a place with her eyes closed. She points to Tallahassee, so they decide that’s where they’ll go. Young Emma asks if this is what he really wants and he says what he really wants is her. I really want to believe him, but knowing what we know later, I find it hard to believe. Neal is in a mood the next time we see him. He’s apparently wanted by the FBI and he managed to snag his poster from the post office. He stole some expensive watches when he was in Phoenix. He came to Portland and stashed them in a train locker. He tells her Tallahassee is out, he needs to head to Canada. Young Emma assumes she’ll go with him. He needs to go alone. She doesn’t think so. They argue until she decides that she’ll get the watches out of the locker. They can fence them, use the money to change their identities, and go to Tallahassee. Honestly, I thought that Neal was doing this to set young Emma up even before August came on the scene. But, apparently he really does love her and didn’t plan on being a complete asshole. So young Emma goes and gets the bag out of the locker. I’m still not sure why Neal couldn’t do this. It’s not like anyone knows where he is. Why would security think it odd if he got a bag out of a train station locker? It doesn’t seem as if it’s being watched for any reason. Why did young Emma have to be involved with this whatsoever? It seems like the fencing of the watches would be the more dangerous part of this whole scheme. Anyway, young Emma brings them to Neal and he thinks he can fence them for around $20,000. He’s going to  fence the watches and reminds her to meet him at 9:00, and gives her one of the stolen watches so she has the time. Again, seems like this would be some sort of set up, except he hasn’t met with August yet. Neal is walking to meet his fence and feels someone following him. He runs off and the person runs after him. The guy tackles him and Neal thinks it’s a cop, but it turns out to be August!  He and Neal argue about who’s doing a better job taking care of young Emma. August realizes Neal actually loves young Emma. He thinks that will make leaving her easier, because he’ll want to do right by her. August asks Neal if he believes in magic. Neal considers this before telling August that he obviously does (you didn’t answer the question Neal). August says he’s going to show Neal something that will make him believe. It’s in his typewriter box. And Neal does believe the minute he sees what’s in the box. August tells him about the curse and that Emma needs to break it, and she can’t do that with Neal in the picture. August asks him if he’ll do the right thing. And the right thing is apparently setting young Emma up for stealing the watches. WTF, Neal?  We see Neal meeting with August two months later in Vancouver, Canada. He feels guilty about young Emma (GOOD!) and just wants to know if she’s okay. August informs he she got 11 months. He says it should be him in there. Well, it’s good to know he has feelings about this. Why didn’t he just get himself arrested and not let young Emma know? Why did he have to frame her? Ugh!! Neal wants August to promise he’ll be there for young Emma since he can’t. He does. He gives August the money from the watches and the car (with a clean VIN just like young Emma had suggested) to give to young Emma so she’ll have a fresh start when she gets out of jail. He also asks that August let him know when the curse ends. I’m sorry, I don’t know what could scare Neal so much that he would frame the woman he purports to love for his crime. That is not love.

Character Observations:

Young Emma/Emma: I’m just going to come out and say it. Young Emma is an idiot. She may know how to steal a car, but she clings to Neal because they’re both thieves, and they don’t have any family. We know she’s grown up in the foster system and she was moved around a lot, so she’s clinging to the little bit of stability that she can find. Even if it’s with a much older man that is a thief. So let’s just skip to the part where she’s set up, because this whole thing is absurd. Young Emma goes to meet Neal at the prearranged location after he fences the watches. She calls him up on her flip phone and finds his number has been disconnected. Then a cop comes and tells her that her boy set her up. He called in a tip and is probably off to Canada by now. Why does the cop know all this information? Neal called in a tip to check the surveillance footage at the train station. Ok. What does this prove? She took a bag out of a locker. Unless they have proof that there were watches in that bag, they have nothing. All they have is the one watch young Emma is wearing and there is no proof she stole it. Technically, it was a gift from Neal, so she’s done no wrong there. The cop tells her to give him the watch and then asks if she knows her rights. He doesn’t even say them to her. She just answers yes. Now, while this technically wouldn’t set her free, anything she would say after this would not be admissible in court, so most likely the judge would throw out the case unless there was other evidence that could be used. So when the cop asks where the rest of the watches were and she said ‘Gone, not coming back’ (and yes, she’s actually talking about Neal), that would not be admissible in court as her knowing about the stolen watches. And the wanted poster had Neal’s picture on it of him stealing the watches! Who was young Emma’s public defender? They did a real shit job for her to get 11 months for possession of stolen goods that she a) didn’t steal and b) they never recovered. I seriously cannot figure out how the hell this case even made it to trial, let alone a guilty verdict. The only thing I could even think they’d get her on was being Neal’s accomplice, but she didn’t even know him them, and they could see what foster home she was in and that it wasn’t in Phoenix.  But back to young Emma, who is feeling very betrayed, obviously. We next see her in jail. The prison guard has a package for her that she has to open in front of her. It’s car keys to the bug, with the swan keychain. The guard says at least she has a car when she gets out, and apparently a baby, as young Emma is holding a positive pregnancy test.

In the EF, Emma volunteers to climb the beanstalk with Hook, which makes him very happy. He has a magic cuff they need to use to climb the beanstalk as it’s enchanted so no one can climb it. Was this instituted before or after Jack? Mulan gives Emma poppy powder to knock out the giant. She also asks Mulan to cut down the beanstalk after 10 hours. Emma’s story is about trust. Hook asks her to trust him several times, but after the betrayal of Neal, it seems Emma can’t trust anyone. Or at least not flirty, innuendo dripping, hot pirates. They manage to knock the giant out and get to the treasure room (with a lot of flirting from Hook, and a lot of eye rolling from Emma), before the giant wakes up and comes after them. Hook gets trapped under some fallen pieces of the roof while Emma freezes when the giant comes after them. Emma manages to trap the giant in his own cage. The giant shares with her that he is alone and how the dried bean he wears around his neck is a reminder of how all humans are killers. This hits a bit too close to home with Emma and she walks away rather than kill him with Jack’s poisoned sword. The giant frees himself and shows her a way out as a favor for not killing him. Emma starts to leave but negotiates another favor since she could have killed him twice. Turns out she wants him to not let Hook go free for another 10 hours after Emma rescues him from the rubble and then conveniently handcuffs him to a chain that happens to be there. Emma says she can’t take a chance she’s wrong about him as Hook pleads with her not to leave him there. She tells him he’ll be okay, she just needs a head start. Emma manages to get down the beanstalk right after the original 10 hours is up. Mary Margaret is upset that Emma told Mulan to cut the beanstalk down. Emma tries to explain but Mary Margaret makes it clear that they go back to Storybrooke together.  Emma hugs her (awww!) and agrees.

Hook: He’s overly flirtatious with all the ladies, but especially Emma. He’s the master of innuendos, and he’s sexy and he knows it. Plus, he can read Emma like an open book. He guesses correctly that she’s an orphan due to the same look in her eyes that the Lost Boys have. He also realizes she’s had little love in her life and asks if she’s ever been in love. She lies and answers no. But after she sees Milah’s tattoo, and deduces that Rumplestiltskin most likely killed her as well as taking Hook’s hand, she confesses that she may have been in love once. This whole conversation is weird. What does having been in love have to do with her perception of Hook?  He continues to be flirtatious throughout their whole journey up the beanstalk and once they reach the giant’s lair. And he’s dead sexy when he has to tie Emma’s hand with his scarf. Yummy! Sorry, but that’s just hot!!! He asks Emma to trust him several times but she just can’t do it, which leads to him being handcuffed in the giant’s castle and pleading with Emma not to leave him there. She tells him she just needs a head start, and he screams for her. I think we have an angry pirate now.

August: Ok, I cut August some slack for leaving Emma when he was seven, because he couldn’t handle that kind of responsibility. I get that. But now he’s technically behind her going to jail because he somehow spooked Neal into leaving her? He calls himself young Emma’s guardian angel and he’s trying to make up for leaving her when she was young. Okay, I get that, but to help frame her so she goes to jail? What’s that all about? August admits to Neal that he can’t say no to temptation, that he’s not built that way. This is true, Pinocchio was never good at making the right choice, but it’s such a cop out. And then it gets worse. Neal gives August the car keys and $20,000 to give to Emma so she has a chance to start over once she’s out of jail. Emma gets the car keys, mailed to her from Phuket, where August apparently took the money meant for Emma. August is an even bigger ass than Neal is. Neal at least felt guilty. August only came back to help Emma break the curse because he started turning into wood. That money could have let her keep Henry.

The Giant: We don’t get a lot of backstory. Only that it seems the fairy tale and EF history got his story wrong. That Jack attacked him and killed his family and he’s the only giant left. He’s very angry toward humans because of this. But in the end, he finds an ally in Emma and gives her the compass and agrees to watch Hook for 10 hours so she can get a head start.

Mary Margaret/Aurora: They find some common ground due to both having been under a sleeping curse. Aurora is having nightmares about a burning red room and someone inside it watching her. Mary Margaret seems happy to have a princess to mother, since Emma won’t let Mary Margaret mother her. And Mary Margaret goes all mother bear on Mulan when she tries to cut the beanstalk down. Mary Margaret makes it quite clear to Emma that they are going home together, no matter what.

Henry: He’s apparently having dreams of the burning red room with someone else watching him as well.

Questions:

Was Cora really going to climb the beanstalk with Hook? She doesn’t seem the type to do that.

Has Mulan been to Oz? Poppies are what put Dorothy and her crew to sleep in the movie.

How long have young Emma and Neal been together by the pretend pregnancy scene?

Is Neal having nightmares? Is that why he wanted to keep the dreamcatcher?

The map that Neal has young Emma point to is a map of all the states the motel chain is located.

What does being in love have to do with being perceptive about why Hook wants revenge on Rumplestiltskin? If Emma had never been in love she wouldn’t understand that Rumplestiltskin killed Milah? That would make her a pretty bad bail bonds person if she couldn’t figure things out like that.

Why does young Emma say Neal got away clean with stealing the watches? The wanted poster has a picture of him stealing the watches! Why does Neal have to explain about the security cameras?

Why is Neal running to Canada? They have extradition laws there. He could still be arrested and sent back to the US. Better to go to Mexico instead.

Is Neal not wanted by the FBI anymore? How is he currently living in New York if he’s still wanted by the FBI? Did he change his identity? He would have to if he has an apartment and seems to working somewhere that requires a suit.

How long has Neal had this train station locker? I don’t know what lockers were like in 1999 or 2000, but according to Google, you can only store something in a train locker for a day.

What’s in the box, August?! What’s in the box?!

Neal doesn’t seem to find August talking about curses weird at all? Could he be from the EF?

Why didn’t Neal just leave? Why did he have to set Emma up to go to jail? Just ghost her and run. 

What does it matter if Hook steals other things from the giant? 

If Neal felt so guilty about what happened to Emma that he wanted to know when the curse broke, why hasn’t he come to Storybrooke to find her? Or is he currently on his way?

Why did the giant have the compass on him? Was he expecting someone to try and steal it? Was it special to him in some way?

Are Aurora and Henry seeing each other in the burning red room? Will they be able to communicate with each other?

Did Emma spend two years in Tallahassee waiting for Neal? Or did she just like the idea of Tallahassee enough to go there after she was free?

Observations:

It’s nice that Emma’s false eyelashes stay on so well throughout this entire journey without bugging her at all.

There are apparently no more magic beans to make portals with, as they were destroyed by the giants after a great war led by Jack the Giant Slayer. 

The swan pendant Emma wears around her neck is the keychain Neal stole for her.

Tallahassee is not near a beach. The closest beach is about 90 miles away.

According to the wanted poster, Neal’s birthday is March 23, 1977. That makes him 22-23 at this point.

Now we know why young Emma went to jail in Phoenix; that’s where Neal stole the watches.

The giant’s castle seems to be made pretty shoddily if just walking makes everything shake and pieces of the roof cave in.

Jack’s skeleton is still in the giant’s castle and his sword has his name on it.

Emma has a flower tattoo on her left wrist.

August says that Emma was sent to a minimum security prison in Phoenix. In Desperate Souls Emma says she was in juvie and her records were supposed to be sealed. A juvenile detention center and a minimum security prison are two separate places. Juvie means she’s under 18 and minimum security means she was tried as an adult.

August sent Neal the postcard in Broken.

That’s a pretty big cage considering the giant’s enemy seems to be humans.

Once Upon a Time Firsts:

We actually saw a dreamcatcher hanging in Neal’s apartment in Broken, but this time it’s shoved in our faces and we will be seeing them again throughout the series.

Hook asking Emma to trust him.

Emma’s tattoo.

Names:

Neal Cassidy: Neal Cassady is the name of a beat poet in the 60’s and hung out with Jack Kerouac. Not sure if this was intentional somehow by the writers or if Neal made up his name being that he’s a thief.

So, I’m extremely angry over young Emma’s shoddy frame job, and the fact that Neal and August got away scott free apparently. I love Hook’s flirtiness and his innuendos. All in all, Emma’s backstory was really important to understand why she doesn’t trust real easily, but I don’t see her trusting Hook any time soon, regardless of the circumstances. But she’s finally starting to trust Mary Margaret and hopefully see her as her mother.

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New Amsterdam 1x04 “Anthropocene”

This episode was so good, building off the strength of the last and continuing the momentum. I love this show so far and I’m incredibly curious to see how the following will play out.

Max and Georgia

Georgia is finally all in and Max FINALLY told her the truth by the end of the episode. Still making sure to keep it quiet from any eavesdropping ears. The scene was written and shot beautifully with Max using the line “Let me tell you about a patient,” and Georgia tearing up at his revelation. Judging from the pictures from next episode she is sticking around but the big question is; what is Max’s prognosis? Will he beat it?

Floyd and Lauren

This is a ship I have not been behind since the show started. Aside from the fact that they have no romantic chemistry Reynolds has always come across as aloof and arrogant and dismissive with Lauren. He likes the attention she gives and only seems to be worried if she appears as though she’s moving on. Which it looks like she is considering that she introduced him to her friend Evie. On paper this looks good. He wants to find a black woman to be with and her friend Evie is black, single, and accomplished. Hell naw. This is a story we were all worried about happening which reeks of misogynoirism. If Lauren really felt good about it she wouldn’t be half-crying when she walked away. Like who does that? Who does that to their so-called friend? Here buddy here’s this dude I was fucking and our relationship is complicated and there are still feelings but fuck it you should try with him...this is going to end poorly and mostly for Evie. But I still wonder what will happen with Evie and Floyd and how Lauren moves on.

I’m just glad it wasn’t Helen.

Ah Helen who somehow ended being the ONLY one of the core cast that didn’t go to the party. I have plenty of theories as to why. The most benign being that she wants to be seen as a doctor as her over exposure has hurt her with patient confidence. However, I think it’s because there has been no scenes with Max, Georgia, and Helen. Helen who he basically was having an emotional affair with. She would’ve been a distraction from the beautiful scene they had. However not lost was the fact that Helen has begun the first round of hormones. I keep wondering how this story will play out. Will the treatments work? If they do and she makes more eggs will she look for a donor? Anonymous? Will she ask someone she knows? What if it doesn’t work? How will that affect her emotionally? This story can go all over the place and I have SOOOOO many plot bunnies and headcanons about what could happen.

Iggy Frome

Our boy is gay!!!! He has a fine ass husband and a beautiful little girl. Like she is a gorgeous little girl who stole every scene she was in. I do wonder why Iggy’s parents met her but now don’t want to give them “the wrong impression?” That bit made me sad for him but overall this is a character who lives up to his character trait; happy!

Anil Kapoor

I know it was hard to tell but that speech the dad gave about not having enough time shook the fuck out Dr. Kapoor I really hope he reaches out to his son and mends their relationship. He puts his foot in his mouth a lot, but when given the chance he is kind and caring and great at expressing himself like he was with the barista. It was nice to hear about his wife. I wonder if she was the one who “spoke” for them when she was alive.

All in all I hope they continue with the momentum cause this show is great!

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#Shadowhunters Timeline

HERE IT IS, FOLKS. I’ve improved the Shadowhunters timeline (sort of.)

First off, If you want to see this in calendar format, I have created Google Calendars. 

Full Shadowhunters Timeline Calendar

Important Malec Moments Calendar

Click on the events to read my notes explaining my reasoning behind choosing that date/time.

(I haven’t tried looking at these calendars from any other time zone; hopefully they will work. Let me know if the times seem off and I will try to fix that.)

If you want the timeline in long form, keep reading.

What Year Is It? Survey says: 2016

There are several indicators in the show that Shadowhunters takes place in 2016. These are as follows, from least to most compelling:

The show began airing in 2016, so it makes sense that’s when it would be set.

In 2x16 the Lewis family observes Yom Kippur. In 2015 and 2017, Yom Kippur was in late September. In 2016, it was in early-mid October. This offers nearly two weeks more for events to unfold.

In 2x05 when Clary is researching warlock case files, Magnus has two infractions dated 2016. Most likely, those infractions were the result of his actions relating to Raj and Alec in 2x03.

In 1x07 when Elaine and Rebecca Lewis are arguing with each other during Simon’s “intervention” Elaine clearly says it’s 2016.

That last one really sort of seals it. The show takes place in 2016.

Immovable Date Indicators

Having determined that the show takes place in 2016, that leaves us with two non-negotiable dates around which to build a timeline:

The first is Clary’s birthday (1x01) which book canon establishes to be August 23. There is an argument to be made that show canon may not adhere to book canon with regard to birthdays, but the writers and producers have repeatedly tweeted out Happy Birthday messages for the characters on their book-canon birthdays.

The second is Yom Kippur (2x16). Yom Kippur in 2016 took place starting at sunset on October 11 and ending after sunset on October 12.

This means that when Simon was fasting for Yom Kippur, it was October 12, and the dinner he and Maia attend with the Lewis family takes place after sunset on the 12th.

Once these two episodes are considered set in stone as having taken place on August 23 and October 12, respectively, we can then build the rest of the timeline around those dates.

A Few More Notes

It’s canonically established that demons have an aversion to sunlight, or are actually killed by sunlight (2x05.)

Thus, it’s a somewhat safe assumption that Shadowhunters tend to work the night shift and sleep during the day. A lot of time when there’s a question of what the characters were doing, it happens in the early part of the day and we can probably headcanon that they were getting some sleep.

This is confirmed (among other places) in 1x04 when Clary, Alec, and Hodge are all asleep when Clary concludes Magnus Bane took her memories, only an hour or two after rescuing Simon at dawn from the Hotel Dumort.

Also, I rely a lot on sunrise and sunset for time clues, but sunrise and sunset happen at different times depending on the date. I have taken those times from this site, for reference.

In season 2B what time it is in Idris becomes increasingly relevant. The show is surprisingly good about remembering that there is a time zone difference. But what time zone? We know from 2x19 that Idris borders Switzerland somewhere, so our safest bet is to assume it’s in the same time zone as Switzerland. In other words, Idris local time is about five hours ahead of New York time.

SEASON ONE (August 23, 2016 - September 8, 2016)

1x01 “The Mortal Cup” Timeframe: August 23 (afternoon) – August 25 (before dawn)

It’s perhaps early to mid afternoon when Clary has her interview at The Brooklyn Academy of Art

Dot is closing the antiques shop when Clary gets home, so we may assume it’s around 5pm when Jocelyn gives Clary her gift. This is also confirmed by the fact that Jocelyn is expecting them to eat dinner together, so it’s around dinner time

Sunset in NYC on August 23, 2016 was 7:42pm. It’s already dark when Clary, Simon and Maureen are talking on top of the van before Simon and Maureen’s gig at the coffee shop, which puts the gig at 9-10pm at the earliest

The events at Pandemonium probably took place sometime between 11pm on the 23rd and 1am on the 24th

When Clary portals into the police station after returning home following the events at Pandemonium, Captain Vargas says it’s 2am (thus it is now the 24th) 

When Simon calls after Clary wakes up in the Institute, he says she hasn’t answered her phone in two days. It appears to be in the pre-dawn hours of the 25th at this point (Izzy says she’s about to make breakfast at the beginning of 1x02, which takes place immediately after this scene

1x02 “The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy” Timeframe: August 25 (pre-dawn) to August 26 (shortly after midnight)

When Simon finds Clary at the Institute, it’s still dark outside

Once he gets inside, Izzy remarks that she was just about to make breakfast. So we may assume it’s very early in the morning on the 25th.

Exterior shot suggests it’s pre-dawn when Luke is in Clary’s burnt-out room, packing up her belongings

What happens to the rest of the day??? I assume at some point everyone got some sleep (was Simon just hanging out in the Institute all day?)

It looks like it might still be light out judging from the lighting when Izzy is giving Clary more clothes

It’s dark outside when they follow Dot to Pandemonium (sunset on August 25 2016 is 7:37pm)

By the time Clary is done in the City of Bones and Simon is abducted by Raphael, it’s probably well after midnight on the 26th

1x03 “Dead Man’s Party” Timeframe: August 26, ~2am to ~7am

All the events of this episode occur in the early morning hours of August 26

Simon is likely abducted sometime between midnight and 2am

In the cemetery while raiding the weapons cache, Jace and Alec confirm that their rescue mission to retrieve Simon is planned for dawn

Sunrise on August 26, 2016 is 6:18am

The sun is already up when they escape the Hotel Dumort

1x04 “Raising Hell” Timeframe: August 26 (morning) to August 27 (before dawn)

Clary, Simon et al have likely only been back from the Hotel Dumort for an hour or two when Simon wakes Clary from her dream, thus it’s still early morning

Jace tells Izzy to wake Alec and Hodge when Clary realizes Magnus Bane took her memories, quasi-confirming that Shadowhunters tend to keep night-shift hours and sleep during the day

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Even though it was after dawn when they rescued Simon from the Hotel Dumort, it is dark outside the front doors of the Institute when Simon storms out

It’s “not even 9am” when Luke offers Alaric jerky at the police station

It appears to still be daylight outside when Izzy helps Clary find something to wear

When Magnus and Elias argue over Magnus taking the meeting, it looks like it’s dark outside Magnus’s apartment. However, there is some dim, pinkish light on the far left curtain that suggests it could be around sunset and the alley outside Magnus’s balcony doors is just really shadowy

Izzy and Alec are already dressed for the rave when Alec is preparing his arrows, which suggests it’s close to 10pm

CONTINUITY SNAFU: The scene with Simon, Maureen and Elaine Lewis shows it’s clearly still light out, and Elaine says it’s dinner time, so this scene takes place around maybe 6pm. Which means it should really take place before the scene with Magnus and Elias and the scene with Alec and Izzy already dressed for the rave

If Simon didn’t return home until dinner time, but he left the Institute in the morning only an hour or two after sunrise, where was he all day?

The Downworld rave begins at 10pm, according to the flier Izzy displayed earlier in the episode. It doesn’t look terribly busy when our gang is there, suggesting the rave hasn’t been going for long. This meeting probably takes place around 11pm

The Circle probably attacks Magnus’s lair around midnight to 1am on the 27th

Depending on how long it takes Clary to draw that intricate summoning circle, the demon summoning probably takes place around 3-4am

Clary appears to be getting ready for bed when she has her vision of her mother and Valentine, but it seems to still be before sunrise, maybe around 6am

1x05 “Moo Shu to Go” Timeframe: August 27, ~6am to ~9pm

Everyone seems to be getting ready for bed when Clary seems Valentine with the portal shard necklace and Alec confiscates it

It seems reasonable to conclude the slept for part of the day, they’re all dressed in different clothing when Maryse arrives from Idris

Clary slips away around late afernoon

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Prior to the scene of Clary slipping away, Raphael confronts Simon, who is skulking outside the Hotel Dumort. It’s dark in this scene, but still daytime in the scenes before and after

Simon and Clary are abducted by Theo and Alaric before sunset, and rescued not long after sunset, putting the end of this episode at around 8:30 to 9pm

1x06 “Of Men and Angels” Timeframe: August 27 (late evening) to August 28 (early morning)

Episode picks up within an hour of the end of 1x05

Episode ends well before dawn on August 28

1x07 “Major Arcana” Timeframe: August 28 (pre-dawn to late night) 

It’s some time in the early morning, well before dawn, when Clary tells Jace, Magnus, and Luke that she knows where the Cup is

CONTINUITY SNAFU: In the first 2x18 flashback, it is established that Alec is still at Magnus’s loft after sunrise, which means he should have been in this meeting with Clary, Jace and Magnus, yet he’s nowhere to be seen. Perhaps he went to the roof to clear his head?

Obviously it’s well after dawn when Alec returns to the Institute and tells Izzy he stayed at Magnus’s all night

It’s probably mid-to-late afternoon when Elaine and Rebecca hold their “intervention” for Simon, since Elaine says she left work early

Sunset on the 28th is 7:42pm. It’s after dark when Clary, Jace, Alec and Izzy run away from the police station after finding the tarot card, so around 8pm

It’s maybe around 9-10pm when Simon returns to the Hotel Dumort and is murdered by Camille

1x08 “Bad Blood” Timeframe: August 29 (pre-dawn to near midnight)

Raphael brings Simon’s body to the Institute sometime before dawn

All events of his episode happen in one day

Simon rises as a vampire probably not long before midnight

1x09 “Rise Up” Timeframe: August 30 (midnight to before sunrise)

All events happen before sunrise on the 30th

Meliorn is arrested probably sometime not long after midnight (possibly even shortly before midnight on the 29th)

Meliorn is rescued by Jace, Clary, and Izzy before sunrise

1x10 “The World Inverted” Timeframe: August 30 (after sunrise to sometime after sunset)

Izzy returns to the Institute sometime after sunrise

It appears to be around dusk when Clary passes into the alternate dimension, however, the Seelie Glade is probably part of Faerie and time doesn’t necessarily move the same way there

Sunset on the 30th is 7:29pm. Simon visits Luke at the Jade Wolf sometime after this

Izzy’s arrest and Alec’s attempt to track Jace probably happen sometime between sunset and midnight

CONTINUITY SNAFU: It’s daylight in the alternate dimension even though it’s dark in the “real” world. There is no explanation for why time moves differently or why Clary would be inserted into a different time in the alternate dimension

1x11 “Blood Calls to Blood” Timeframe: August 31 (morning) to September 1 (late night)

It’s after sunrise when Clary and “Michael Wayland” drag an ailing Jace into the Jade Wolf (take a moment to appreciate Simon cringing away from the sunlight coming through the window)

Izzy is still wearing the same clothes as in 1x10. She's apparently incarcerated in the Head of the Institute’s office, and isn’t being allowed to change her clothes?

The Inquisitor appears to arrive around mid-morning

CONTINUITY SNAFU: The Inquisitor says the trial will commence that evening, however it doesn’t begin until the following evening

Lighting through the window suggests it’s still daylight outside when Alec tells Izzy she needs an advocate. However, it’s dark out when Alec goes to ask Magnus to be Izzy’s advocate. One possible explanation for the trial being delayed is that the Inquisitor granted time for Izzy’s advocate to work up their defense after she chooses someone to represent her?

It’s late night on the 31st when Clary and Luke scout Renwicks

It’s after sunset on September 1st when Izzy’s trial begins

It’s probably close to midnight on the 1st when Jace and Clary return to the Institute and hand over the Cup

1x12 “Malec” Timeframe: September 5 (afternoon/evening) - September 7 (late night)

This date is only a best guess. We have no indicator of how much time has passed since 1x11. It’s likely it’s only been a few days, since everyone is still researching how to wake up Jocelyn, but it seems even Izzy would need at least a few days to pull together a swanky wedding, so let’s assume it’s the better part of a week.

This episode begins before sunset on September 5, it appears to be daylight outside when Jace and Izzy talk about the wedding planning and Alec and Clary thank each other

However, it’s clearly close to sunset as it’s dark when Alec arrives at Magnus’s loft

Clary says it’s 9am (on the 6th) when Magnus is at the Institute to consult about the warlock who bespelled Jocelyn

Jace says “we leave in an hour” meaning they leave to collect Ragnor at 10am

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Even though they leave at 10am, it’s after dark when they return, though they weren’t gone more than an hour or two

Magnus is wearing the same outfit in both his scenes with ghost!Ragnor, suggesting they both happen on the same night. Those scenes bookend Alec’s bachelor party, so this is still the night of the 6th

Exterior shots of the Institute (and Simon’s dialogue earlier in the episode) indicate that the wedding takes place shortly after sunset on the 7th

Hodge absconds with the Mortal Cup late on the 7th

1x13 “Morning Star” Timeframe: September 7 (late) to September 8 (evening)

This episode picks up shortly after 1x12 ends, late at night on the 7th

Jace, Alec and Luke appear to hunt Hodge until the pre-dawn hours of the 8th

It’s after daybreak when Clary, Simon, and Izzy free Camille from the Dumort

The standoff with Valentine appears to happen late afternoon or early evening of the 8th

Jocelyn is awakened sometime after sunset on the 8th

SEASON 2A (September 9, 2016 - September 27, 2016)

2x01 “This Guilty Blood” Timeframe: September 9 (after midnight to late night)

Lydia says she’s been trying to reach the Clave for four hours, so this episode picks up soon after 1x13 ends

Simon says it’s “almost dawn” when Aldertree evicts him from the Institute. Which means Valentine is cooking spaghetti just before dawn in the previous scene???

Several daytime scenes take place but it’s after dark again when Alec visits Magnus to apologize

2x02 “A Door Into the Dark” Timeframe: September 10 (after midnight) to September 11 (late evening)

This episode begins minutes after 2x01 ends, perhaps shortly after midnight on the 10th

However, it’s unlikely the fighters in the dojo were having matches between midnight and sunrise (and also unlikely Valentine was abducting fighters within an hour or two of being shot by a crossbow) so it’s safe to assume the abductions from the dojo take place after sunset later that same day

It’s still dark out when Lydia briefs the Institute about the dojo abductions, but Lydia, Izzy, Clary, and Aldertree have all had a change of wardrobe since the beginning of the episode, confirming that most of the day has passed and they probably got some sleep somewhere in there

The light on the exterior shot of Valentine’s ship is low enough to suggest it’s around dawn the next day

Jocelyn is bringing Clary coffee, which suggests it’s morning of the 11th when Clary leaves the Institute

It’s daytime as Alec and Izzy investigate the fight club

It’s probably late afternoon/early evening when Dot abducts Clary

Sunset on September 11, 2016 was 7:09pm. It was before sunset when Jocelyn proposed her plan for Alec to track Jace, but it’s dark when Alec actually does the tracking

Since it’s unlikely Alec would have delayed putting the plan into action, this suggests it’s fairly early at night (maybe 8-9pm?) when Jace and Clary jump from Valentine’s ship

2x03 “Parabatai Lost” Timeframe: September 12 (daybreak to late night)

NOTE: September 12 is Alec’s birthday

Episode beings after sunrise the morning after Jace and Clary jump from Valentine’s ship (which means they were in the water all night?)

It’s after sunset (7:08pm) when Jace is taken to the hospital

When Maia and Luke search for Jace in the hospital, the ER doctor says he’s been there “a few hours” which means it’s probably around 10pm

Jace likely arrives to revive Alec between 11pm and midnight

Happy birthday, Alec, amirite?

2x04 “Day of Wrath” Timeframe: September 13 (sunset to midnight or shortly thereafter)

The date for this episode is only a best guess. It’s unlikely Clary would have let more than 24 hours pass without going to see Jace. It’s also unlikely Alec would be so sanguine about Jace’s fate if he’d been in the City of Bones for more than a day, but Alec has also clearly had time to rest and recuperate from his near-death experience.

It’s after sunset when Clary goes to see Jace in the City of Bones

Alec has likely spent all day resting and is not looking much better

All events of this episode appear to happen in just a few hours

2x05 “Dust and Shadows” Timeframe: September 14 (after sunset) to September 16 (after sunset)

It’s dark out on the night of the 14th when Alec is shooting arrows off the roof of the Institute and Clary goes to ask Magnus about bringing Jocelyn back

Aldertree briefs the Institute sometime after sunrise (6:38am) on the 15th and says the Rite of Mourning will be “tomorrow night”

Clary visits Iris Rouse sometime during the day of the 15th and says it’s been two days since her mother died

Simon returns to his mother’s house the evening of the 15th

Alec seeks comfort at Magnus’s loft after sunset on the 15th

Rebecca visits Simon and throws out his blood the morning of the 16th

Jace and Izzy spar and Jace tells Izzy about the mission to the Iron Sisters sometime mid-morning on the 16th

Aldertree gives Izzy the yin fen late morning or so on the 16th

Alec and Clary go to see Iris perhaps early afternoon on the 16th

It’s still daylight out on the 16th when Elaine catches Simon feeding on a rat

The Rite of Mourning ceremony takes place after sunset on the 16th

2x06 “The Iron Sisters” Timeframe: September 16 (after sunset) to September 17 (late night)

Raphael arrives to help Simon with Elaine (who is wearing the same clothes she was at the end of 2x05) after sunset on the 16th

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Prior to the scene with Raphael and Simon, there is a scene with Clary and Jace talking about the rune Clary created. However, they are both wearing different clothes than at the Rite of Mourning, as is Izzy when she arrives, and it doesn’t make sense that Clary and Jace would just be business-as-usual researching the rune only an hour or two after the Rite of Mourning for Jocelyn, which suggests that these scenes are out of order and the scene with Clary and Jace should take place maybe the morning of the 17th

Izzy is in a different outfit when she goes to ask Aldertree for a yin fen refill than she was wearing when she went to check on Clary, which suggests this is the afternoon/early evening of the 17th

(Also? Izzy? Goes? Through? A? Whole? Tin? Of? Yin Fen? In? 24? Hours? And Aldertree thinks nothing of it?)

It’s after sunset when Alec responds to Magnus’s fire message

Wherever the Adamant Citadel is located, it’s daytime there while it’s not long after sunset in New York

The rest of the episode happens the evening of the 17th, perhaps even into the post-midnight hours of the 18th

2x07 “How Are Thou Fallen” Timeframe: September 21 (evening) to September 22 (very early, pre-dawn)

The date for this episode is only a best guess. I’m trying to put as much time as possible between 2x06 and this episode, because it doesn’t seem likely that Alec and Magnus are considering sex just a day or two after their first date. Also it should take Cleophas at least a few days to reach Valentine, considering she’s traveling without access to portals, and incognito (how did she get across that volcanic plain outside the Adamant Citadel?)

There is some question whether this episode begins after sunset, or if the sky appears darker than it actually is because of the storm clouds moving in

Alec and Magnus return from their Tokyo date mid-evening, perhaps around sunset

Alec and Magnus’s date is interrupted not long after, still early enough for Magnus to feel like going out for a drink

Alec returns to Magnus’s apartment and proposes sex probably around or shortly after midnight

Clary and Jace free Ithuriel sometime in the wee small morning hours of the 22nd

2x08 “Love is a Devil” Timeframe: September 22 (after midnight) to September 24 (after sunrise)

This episode picks up within an hour or so after the end of 2x07, with Clary and Jace telling Luke about the Soul Sword and Raphael rescuing Izzy

Per the finale 2x18 flashback, Alec wakes up in Magnus’s bed sometime after sunrise and returns to the Institute by, say, mid-morning

Alec returns to Magnus a few hours later, say early afternoon, to ask Magnus to host Max’s party

Simon texts and asks Clary to meet him at 11pm, per Clary’s dialogue

Alec and Maryse argue in Maryse’s office around that same time, so 11pm to midnight on the 22nd

Max’s party starts at 8pm on the 23rd

Max’s rune ceremony is after sunrise (6:46am) on the 24th

2x09 “Bound by Blood” Timeframe: September 26 (afternoon until before midnight)

The date for this episode is only a best guess. There are some compelling arguments for it not to be too soon after 2x08, and also some compelling arguments for it to be quite soon after 2x08:

It seems like the blood oath spell would at least allow Clary a day or two to locate Madzie before upping the threat level

Enough time has passed since 2x08 for Raphael and Izzy to have settled into some sort of “relationship” (if it can be called that under those circumstances)

When taking to the homeless man in the park, Simon says Madzie was taken “a few days ago” which would indicate at least a couple days have passed since 2x08

However, Simon and Clary were determined to spend as much time together as possible, so Clary probably hasn’t been willing to sit around the Institute where it’s safe for very long. And it doesn’t seem likely that Maia, having learned that Clary can activate the Soul Sword, would wait very long before making the attempt on her life.

So it’s anyone’s guess. I’m going to go with two days since the end of 2x08, though.

Iris’s spell seems to take effect maybe mid-afternoon

It's still daytime when Clary and Jace arrive at Magnus’s loft to ask about her arm

It’s not yet sunset when Maia attacks Clary but it gets dark shortly thereafter when Maia explains herself to Luke

The rest of this episode takes place over the next few hours, up to perhaps around midnight

2x10 “By the Light of Dawn” Timeframe: September 27 (midnight to after sunrise)

This episode begins immediately after 2x09 ends

It ends shortly after sunrise the morning of the 27th

SEASON 2B (September 28, 2016 to October 15, 2016)

2x11 “Mea Maxima Culpa” Timeframe: September 28 (before dawn) to September 29 (evening) 

The date for this episode is only a best guess. There are no hard and fast indicators of how long has passed since 2x10, but we have a couple of clues (and a few causes for confusion.) Aldertree has been sent back to Idris to face reprimand (one presumes for leaving the Institute vulnerable to Valentine's attack?) Assuming this is true and not a lie like the one about the Soul Sword, at least a day or two has passed, because it would take a while for messages to pass back and forth, for the decision to be made to recall Aldertree, and for Aldertree to return. However, I doubt Imogen Herondale would wait too long before interrogating Valentine, so we may assume she arrives within a day or two of Valentine's capture.

It’s dark when Alec and Jace are sparring in the courtyard. Assuming they still work the night shift, it could be before dawn and they’re unwinding after patrol the morning of the 28th

The low light indicates it’s either sunrise or sunset when Clary and Simon are on the bench. While I’m not sure a hot dog vendor (in the background) would be out and about right at daybreak, I’m going with sunrise because they appear to be looking across the river at Manhattan, which means they’re probably in Brooklyn facing west, and the sun is behind them in the east.

Azazel attacks the bar after dark that night

Alec tends to Izzy the next morning (the 29th)

CONTINUITY SNAFU: The scene immediately following this is Luke confronting Russell in the Jade Wolf, and then Luke gets a call about Azazel's massacre in the bar. If Luke doesn't find out about it until after Alec, who contacted Alec?

CONTINUITY SNAFU CONTINUED: When Alec is notified he clearly says "there was a demon attack" and yet when Clary is looking at the bodies, she says "this looks like a demon attack" as though that is new information (like, why else would they have been called in?) Oh, Michael Reisz. I love you dearly and with all my heart for giving us 1x12, but you are really not a very good writer

(POSSIBLE) CONTINUITY SNAFU: It’s clearly still daylight when Simon and Maia talk in the bar, but the earlier scene with Izzy encountering Azazel in the alley outside the vamp lair made it look like it was after dark. Is the alley underground? Is it under a highway somewhere that doesn’t allow daylight to get in? Demons don’t seem to like daylight, so how is Azazel out and about if it’s not dark?

It appears to be before sunset when Alec visits Magnus to ask about the demon and encounters Raphael

YET ANOTHER CONTINUITY SNAFU: Raphael says Izzy “just” came by the Dumort, but she came by in the morning as he was getting ready for coffin bed and now it’s nearly sunset

When Alec returns to the Institute to tell them Azazel may have Izzy, Clary says the Inquisitor is in a meeting with the Alicante Council. Which I guess means the Alicante Council holds meeting in the middle of the night in Idris, because 6pm New York time would be about 11pm Idris time.

Best guess is the attempt to summon Azazel takes place around 8-9pm

2x12 “You Are Not Your Own” Timeframe: September 29 (late evening) to September 30 (evening)

This episode picks up maybe an hour or so after 2x11 ends, assuming Valentine-in-Magnus’s-Body doesn’t spend more than an hour wandering around looking for Magnus’s loft

Izzy returns to the Institute with Sebastian in tow after sunrise the next morning

Izzy and Simon “visit” Rosa Santiago sometime that afternoon

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Izzy tells Rosa she and Raphael visited her for Bingo night last week, but Izzy stopped seeing Raphael only a few days ago, only hours after learning about Rosa’s existence. So that’s not possible

The body swap is undone sometime after sunset on the 30th

2x13 “Those of Demon Blood” Timeframe: October 3 (late evening) to October 5 (shortly after midnight)

The date for this episode is only a best guess. The flier Clary creates for Simon’s show says “Midnight Tuesday” which would have to mean Tuesday, October 4 because midnight on October 11 would be after the start of Yom Kippur and Simon wouldn’t be able to have a show that night (and also there wouldn’t be time for 2x14 and 2x15 to happen before 2x16, which takes place on October 12.)

Honestly the timeline for this episode is a bit of a mess. It would make a lot more sense if there was a day between solving the murder mystery with Kaelie and Simon’s show, but Magnus’s lack of a costume change indicates it all happens on the same night.

Clary tells Simon about his upcoming show sometime the evening of October 3. Which seems pretty sketchy to me “Hey, baby, I booked you a show for...24 hours from now. Have fun getting ready for that!”

Maia is wearing Costume #1

Clary and Simon find the first body shortly thereafter

Luke is pulled in for questioning by the Inquisitor maybe around midnight or shortly thereafter

The second body is found while Luke is offering his DNA

After daybreak, the Inquisitor addresses the Institute and tells them she’s leaving Jace in charge when she goes

Jace tells them to collect DNA from their friends the morning of the 4th

Alec does to see Magnus for a DNA sample around mid-morning

Apparently Clary decides to take an art class all day, however, because she doesn’t ask Simon for his DNA sample until after the sun goes down (6:31pm)

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Sometime between 6:30 and midnight, Simon refuses his DNA, rescues Clary, gets arrested, gets released, goes home, changes his clothes, and sets up for his show at the Hunter’s Moon

Maia fights Jace over the tracking chip maybe around 8:30pm or so?

Maia’s arrested around 9:30pm then (the Inquisitor says she attacked Jace an hour ago)

When she’s arrested, Maia says she was walking home from work

CONTINUITY SNAFU: Yet at midnight, only a couple hours later, she’s back at work, wearing a different outfit

Izzy saves Max, kills the bad guy, reports back to the Institute, changes her clothes, and head out to catch Simon’s show as well

Simon’s show takes place at midnight (end of Tuesday the 4th/beginning of Wednesday the 5th)

2x14 “The Fair Folk” Timeframe: October 9 (morning through evening)

The date for this episode is only a best guess. The dialogue is somewhat misleading when Jace claims Alec has been in charge for a week, because there’s no possible way it can be a full week since 2x13. Best guess is 5 days since 2x13.

The opening scene with Jace at the piano is misleading; Jace is wearing the same clothes that he was in 2x13 when he hooked up with Maia in the alley, and from the dialogue we’re meant to assume he just got back from that hookup, but since he later says Alec has been in charge for a week, he and Maia have hooked up more than once

It’s after sunrise when Alec briefs the Institute and sends Jace and Clary on their mission to the Seelie Court

It’s after sunset when the Downworld cabinet begins, however, as established both by the scene with Luke getting the fire message at the Jade Wolf and by the fact that Raphael is in attendance

2x15 “A Problem of Memory” Timeframe: October 10 (after midnight) to October 11 (2am)

Raphael says in this episode that the bleeder den doesn’t open until midnight, which means the scene where Simon and Quinn go to the bleeder den takes place after midnight, a few hours after the events of 2x14

While it seems unlikely Simon would go out to the Hunters Moon so soon after 2x14, he did just originally intend to get some blood to go, so he was either hungry or intending to drink his sorrows away while moping in private; he didn’t intend to go out and get wild

Alec wakes alone sometime after sunrise

Again, because the bleeder den doesn’t open until midnight, it’s sometime after midnight when Simon confronts Quinn

Magnus tells Alec about his past sometime between midnight and 2am

(POSSIBLE) CONTINUITY SNAFU: While briefing her team earlier, Izzy says Valentine’s transfer is set for 2am, which would be 7am Idris time, but it’s already after sunrise in Idris when they arrive, and sunrise shouldn’t have been until after 7:30am if Idris is in the same time zone as Zürich, Switzerland

2x16 “Day of Atonement” Timeframe: October 12 (morning to evening)

Simon is fasting when Maia comes to visit him, which means it’s October 12, as Yom Kippur began at sunset on October 11

Simon and Maia go to dinner with his family after sunset on the 12th, which means the end of Yom Kippur

All the events of this episode take place from the morning of the 12th to the evening of the 12th

2x17 “A Dark Reflection” Timeframe: October 13 (morning to late night)

Alec tells Max he’s approved to begin going on missions the morning of the 13th

Izzy confronts Alec about Max later that morning

Jonathan attacks Elliot Nourse sometime after sunset (which is 6:17pm on the 13th)

Alec is "a few hours" late for dinner (which was probably scheduled for 6 or 7pm) thus the dinner date scene should probably actually take place around 9-10 pm. However, given how much else happens in this episode and the fact that most of 2x18 takes place before sunrise the next day it makes more sense for the dinner date scene to happen earlier

Magnus confronts Alec about withholding the information about the Soul Sword an hour or two after their dinner date

CONTINUITY SNAFU: According to their website, the last paddleboat rental at Prospect Park goes out two hours before to sunset, which means Simon and Maia are S.O.L. Oops

Max confronts Jonathan in Alec’s office perhaps around 11pm to midnight

2x18 “Awake, Arise, or Be Forever Fallen” Timeframe: October 14 (midnight to after sunrise)

Izzy finds Max unconscious in her room perhaps sometime after midnight

Alec goes to Magnus’s loft to ask for his help before sunrise

Exterior shots establish that Jonathan attacks the Elite Guardsmen in the courtyard right around sunrise

It’s still quite early in the morning when Clary reveals Jonathan and Magnus breaks up with Alec

2x19 “Hail and Farewell” Timeframe: October 14 (morning to evening)

Jonathan has his meltdown while it’s still early morning

Clary, Jace and Izzy find Sebastian Verlac’s body in Jonathan’s apartment perhaps mid-morning

While it doesn’t look like it’s daylight outside Alec’s office when he briefs the Inquisitor about the Mirror, it’s nighttime in Idris, which suggests it must be afternoon in New York

The meeting with the Downworld Council takes place late morning or early afternoon

The lighting when Raphael and Izzy talk suggests it’s getting close to sunset, but there are several more outside scenes that take place in the daylight afterward

It’s just before sunset when Valentine attacks the funeral to make the Forsaken

It’s after sunset when Clary, Izzy, Alec, and Jace track Jonathan to the cemetery and “kill” him

Valentine strikes his deal with the Seelie Queen late that night

2x20 “Beside Still Water” Timeframe: October 15 (sunrise to late night)

This episode begins after sunrise with Jonathan washing up on the beach and opening the rift to Edom

Alec et al confront the dragon over Manhattan perhaps mid-morning

Alec asks for Magnus’s help closing the rift in the late morning

Magnus, Alec, and Izzy close the rift around noon

It's just after sunset in Alicante (1pm New York time) when Jace and Clary escape and kill Consul Malachi and his headsman

It’s maybe 2:30-3pm New York time when Valentine summons Raziel

I have my doubts that they’d be able to report to the Inquisitor in Alicante that they killed the Consul and un-summoned the angel and still make it back to New York in time to attend a party that night, HOWEVER the characters in the party clearly state a number of times that it’s still the same day, I so guess they managed it

And there you have it. Stay tuned for Season 3a!

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[coldtomyflash]

I don't think it's fair to judge Legion Len because he's the only character on your list that we have ZERO info on what he was told, how he was turned to the villainous side (like word choice, story, all we get is "I hear I go soft and die", like did the Legion kidnap him because why would he leave with random people, how the hell did they convince him, we see NOTHING). Shoddy writing really but you could totally believe he's manipulated given it's the legion and we see nothing.

It was really more of a joke post, anon? Definitely wasn’t trying to start any debates ^^;

If you do want a serious analysis of Len’s motives though, I’ve talked a bit about them here and here and here. 

Broadly, I think it’s totally fair to headcanon he was manipulated if that’s how you see it and what makes sense to you, but I personally don’t headcanon that. Based on canon, what I assume/headcanon happened is that the Legion told him that he joins this team, “goes soft” (aka decides he wants to be a hero), and dies. That Mick is on the seemingly same course (going soft, caring about the team, etc). And they offer him a chance to change that fate. 

Because Len didn’t need to “turn to the villainous side”. This is Len from around or just after The Flash 1x04, we can presume from hints in Legends. This Len was a villain, and uninterested in changing that at this point. He’s also a survivor, and would be motivated to make sure he doesn’t end up dead because he catches feelings. That and, like you said, they didn’t show us anything, which implies that there was nothing to show - no manipulation or coercion involved. At least in terms of a canon-reading.

So... I do think it’s fair to say he was (most likely, based on what canon says) acting of his own volition and more than capable of being responsible for all of his villainous actions as part of the Legion?

[austencello]

Underneath - Arrow Music Notes 5x20

Chase traps Oliver and Felicity in the bunker which forces many emotions to bubble to the surface.  Important conversations and relationships usually mean beautiful and powerful music and this episode was no exception.  The Flashbacks also explored Felicity and Oliver’s time between seasons with a return of a few beloved themes.  (Spoiler alert: this is going to be very Olicity focused.  There are one or two major Oliver moments and a few other brief moments for the other characters but most of this review is about Olicity.  So for the few of you who are not Olicity fans but love the music enough to deal with my bias...go ahead at your own risk.  You have been warned)

Flashbacks

The Flashbacks occur 11 months before the present day situation when Oliver, Felicity, and Curtis are a good and happy team. The music reflects it with water-glasses (Felicity’s instrument) and higher electronics as they talk about being a good team and how Oliver doesn’t want to train a new team.  Piano (Oliver’s instrument) enters as he says “You know me too well” after they both agree on new sleeves.

Curtis thought they were back together due to all the longing looks they are sending each other.  Felicity explains (over water-glasses and piano) that Oliver doesn’t trust her enough emotionally. Curtis arranges Chinese and wine, setting them up and we hear his old themes back: the rotating electronics, fun strings, and clarinet.

A fun variation on Felicity’s humorous strings play as she attempts the Salmon Ladder and Oliver is amused.  However, the moods shifts and the main Olicity theme “The One I Love” (first heard in 2x23) returns as they make out.  I love how each musical version of this theme is slightly different.  This version begins with the repeating harp (Felicity’s instrument - first appears in 3x01 as Felicity walks away from the kiss).  The violins get the melody this time instead of the cellos and then soars up an octave in the counter-melody part (heard in its fullness in 3x20 “Convince Him”) as the piano and oboe plays the melody in unison. The oboe first plays in this melody in 3x20 (the “I love You”/sex scene) and is used throughout Season 4 as Oliver and Felicity love each other and are together.  The piano first introduced the theme in 2x23 and suggests both love and longing.  What is interesting in this version is the overlaying of the two melodies in different registers.  It gives both intensity, beauty, and passion.

In contrast, this theme returns in solo piano with harp as they cuddle afterwards.  Their individual instruments give a sense of intimacy and quietness before Felicity sits up and tells Oliver it doesn’t change anything as the strings quietly plays the melody used in 4x15 when Felicity broke up with Oliver.  She says it is because he doesn’t trust her as piano returns and she wishes she knew why as the violins play “The One I Love”.  As Felicity tells him that she can’t settle for anything less than his full trust, the harp plays the same motive from 4x15 when she walked out.

The final piece of the Flashbacks is when Felicity comes by the next day to apologize for walking out the way she did at the initial break-up as flute, strings and harp plays “Let Each Other Go” from 4x16 when Oliver promised no more lies and Felicity closed the door on their relationship.  Here, Felicity slightly opens the door but admits that she is not ready to talk about it yet.  Oliver states that he is not going anywhere as the clarinet plays (very rarely used for the two of them together).  The harp keeps this theme going as the scene switches to the present with Oliver in the hospital bed.  (More on that in a bit)

In many ways, the Flashbacks encapsulated much of Season 4 musically: the love and passion of “Convince Him”, Felicity stepping back (theme from 4x15 break-up), moving apart “Let Each Other Go”.  There is no doubt of their love for each other and Oliver’s willingness to wait is beautiful and heart-breaking yet his inability to face the darkest part of himself and trust at a deep level still puts a barrier up for Felicity’s need for absolute trust.  Over time, the walls grew, both tried to move on, Oliver was broken by Prometheus, and Felicity went dark with Helix.  Which lead us to the present day.

Present Day

The episode begins with an EMP going off trapping Oliver and Felicity in the bunker.  A lot of the music during these scenes alternate between intensity in trying to get out with emotional conversations with returning musical themes.  While the intense music is really good from the unsettling electronics at the beginning all the way to the hero moments in the elevator shaft (that was quite impressive), I want to focus on the conversations.

At the beginning (after shooting exploding arrows at the door), Oliver realizes that they are trapped down there so they can’t stop Chase from his next move.  The music switches from bass pulses and electronics to horns but as soon as William is brought up the music turns to strings and piano echoing Oliver’s emotional concern for his son. 

Oliver decides to climb up the elevator shaft (great use of Hero theme 2 in the horns and cello scale patterns), gets knocked down, becomes injured, and Felicity stitches him up.  Felicity brings up their discussion from the previous episode that Oliver did not support her decision with Helix which to her showed a lack of trust.  As she shares her feelings, her instruments (water-glasses and harp) and piano play as Oliver concedes to listen and try things her way.

They try Felicity’s way to get power using Oliver’s bike and as they wait, Oliver is the one to bring up Helix. For him, it was not a lack of trust but a concern that she would turn out like him in releasing a criminal and choosing a darker path for “justice.” Felicity feels that Oliver is being hypocritical considering he called the Bratva in not too long ago. As they discuss/argue, “Trust but Verify” plays.  Until now, that theme had been used primarily for Oliver and Diggle (first in 1x11) primarily in regards to Ted Gaynor, Moira, and Floyd Lawton.  At that point, the mission was just the two of them and they were dealing with learning how to trust each other and pointing out blind-spots with family, friends, and revenge. This is the first time Felicity and Oliver were on opposite sides for a mission.  Yes, they had trust issues in their personal relationship but they still trusted each other when it came to the Arrow Cave.  They need to address their individual views regarding issues of trust but also Felicity choosing a darker path for the sake of justice and vengeance.

Felicity’s plan works briefly but then it releases methane gas. They have to find a place of safety to breathe and go down into a steam tunnel.  Between the gas and blood loss, Oliver starts to lose consciousness and collapses.  He apologizes for not having her back and confesses that he didn’t trust himself.  He shares what Chase had led him to believe: that he was not the man that Felicity fell in love with and that his mission was based on a lie.  As he admits this, “Scars” (1x01) beings to play.  This is first heard when Oliver looks into the mirror in the pilot and his scars are revealed: “The face I see in the mirror is a stranger.”  It is used when the List and box of arrows were revealed, when he killed the bird in Flashbacks (1x04), when Diggle tells him in 1x02 that home is a battlefield, when he admits to Felicity on their date in 3x01 that she was the first person he saw that wasn’t a target but a person, when he struggled with no longer being the Arrow in 3x19: “I don’t know who I am.” This music reflects the deep wounds that he came back to Star City with both physically and emotionally.  Oliver is shaken to his core that deep down he became the Arrow because part of him enjoyed killing.  He is seeing darkness in his soul and can’t trust himself due to the lie he believes about himself.

Oliver wakes up after passing out and realizes they are out of options for escaping.  Felicity takes this opportunity to address what he confessed.  Piano begins as he sits down and Felicity tells him that the idea that he enjoys killing is crazy.  Strings join in as she tells him that she knows exactly the kind of man that he is.  She reminds him that he was tortured for a week and that despite the years of hell and crime-fighting, he did not become a monster like he believes.  The music is quiet and slow, giving space for this important speech as Oliver listens and then admits he has no idea what kind of person he is anymore. 

Felicity and Oliver get out thanks to the team and Diggle (the music during that scene is a great mixture of Team Arrow type music with intense percussion, electronics, and rhythmic strings.)  Harp plays as Lyla tells Felicity that Oliver asked to see her and she is visibly concerned about him. 

As Felicity enters the room, the music “Let Each Other Go” continues from the Flashbacks for the remainder of the scene.  The parallels and contrast is strong using the same music for this scene with 4x16 when Felicity gives back the ring and told him that it is over.  There Felicity told him that he would always default to the man from the Island: alone and hiding things from her in difficult decisions.  Now, Felicity apologizes for judging him and doing the same with Helix, being willing to do anything for payback.  In the Flashbacks, she wanted to understand why and now she does.  The beautiful and heart-breaking part of “Let Each Other Go” is that it combines “The One I love” followed by Arrow/Oliver’s slow theme followed by “Someone You Love” in piano and strings.  “The One I Love” plays during her confession in response to his opening up.  Because he gave her that why and vulnerably opened up, she can now respond in kind and see her decisions clearly. Oliver’s slow theme plays as she shares that she got a little taste of what it was like for him and as the camera focuses on his face.  Oliver is receiving both an apology but more importantly forgiveness in light of his confession which he desperately needs. The scene ends with “Someone You Love” as she tells him that he should figure out the kind of person he is.  Usually, that music is used with goodbyes and failures especially between Felicity and Oliver.  But it was also used in moments of always: promising getting through hard times together (speech in 4x09), Oliver promising Felicity she is part of the team “Forever and always” in 4x16, and Oliver promising never to lie to her again in the fake wedding vows.  Moments of angst and heart-break yet also beautiful promises for the future.  Felicity and Oliver are not back together yet they have a deeper understanding and trust now.  It could be seen as closure or a door opening for the future. A moment of hope.

Extra Notes:

- Prometheus string scales appear at the end as Chase talks to William.  (Leave the kid alone!)

- This episode had everything I had been waiting for both in the conversations and the music.  11 months is a long time!  I was so happy to hear Olicity themes again.

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Once Upon a Time 1x11 “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree” Review

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I wasn’t a huge fan of this story. In the EF I found the king too gullible. In Storybrooke, Emma is too trusting and what the hell is up with her superpower, because it didn’t work at all this episode. I also felt they cast the wrong actor as the king and Genie. Richard Schiff usually plays lawyers and doctors. He did not make a very good king. Giancarlo Esposito is so much better than either Genie and Sidney.

Synopsis: Sidney asks Emma to bring down Regina by uncovering evidence that would expose her corruption. In the EF, a king finds a magic lamp with a genie and wishes him free. He falls for Regina, the king’s wife and they plot to be free from the kingdom.

Opening: Genie appearing.

New Characters: 

King Leopold: Although he is never called by his name in the episode, this is how he is listed in IMDB. He is Snow’s father and Regina’s husband and he’s an idiot. He is granted three wishes by a magical genie and he just stands there thinking because he is so happy and his kingdom is so happy that there is nothing that he could wish for. I call bullshit on this. Even if he is so ridiculously happy, there has to be something he would wish for. Or, after Genie tells him that all wishes end badly, that he would still free Genie because he feels it is the right thing to do. If you have nothing to wish for, just don’t wish for anything. This whole scene rubbed me the wrong way (no pun intended). Later on at the king’s birthday party, he dotes on Snow. Ok, I can be on board with that. But then bringing up your dead wife while you’re new wife is sitting right there, making her feel like she doesn’t even exist? Who does that? And then, he gets pissed that, even though he doesn’t love Regina like she deserves to be loved, that she has the audacity to have feelings for another man. Well why wouldn’t she? Do you really expect her to be unhappy when you’ve told Genie that everyone else in your kingdom is happy? The king also mentions that ‘love makes people do foolish things’. Yes, it does, like Genie lusting after your wife. He seems to be the only new man in the palace. Come on, use your brain!  I mean, killing him was a little extreme, but dude was an idiot. 

Character Observations:

Genie/Sidney: This is the magic mirror’s origin story. Before he was trapped in a mirror he was the genie of the lamp. Apparently, he’s just meant to be trapped somewhere. He was trapped in the lamp, then he was kind of trapped at King Leopold’s castle, and then he became trapped in the mirror. I understand that Genie was new to love, and Regina was unhappily married, but did he really expect her to give up her kingdom for him? What did he do besides dispense advice to the king? Did he get paid at all? Did he really expect Regina to live poorly with him? For all that Genie has supposedly seen with his wishes, he really got duped pretty badly. When he does end up making his wish in a desperation to keep Regina, he says he ‘wishes to be with her forever, to look upon her face always, and to never leave her side’. Technically, that’s three wishes, but the lamp doesn’t seem to care, and that’s how Genie ends up trapped in the mirror.

Sidney is, well, Sidney is acting on Regina’s orders the entire time. He’s her puppet. He probably has no idea why he’s so attracted to Regina, but the curse has made him take orders no matter who it hurts. He pretends to be so upset about being fired from the paper and being made a fool of for losing the election that he wants to take Regina down, and Emma believes him. And because the audience believes in Emma, we also believe in Sidney until we see him with Regina at the end. We also get a lot of Genie and Magic Mirror sayings from him. He tells Emma he can ‘grant her wish’ when she and Mary Margaret are talking about taking down Regina. He, again, says to Emma ‘all we need is a crack in the mirror to show everyone’ when he tells her about the missing money.

Emma: She really made me mad in this episode.  She starts off saying she’s the sheriff, she has to do everything by the book. Then when they’re looking through the public records for where the money supposedly went, they find that the files are missing and Sidney wants to get a warrant to search Regina’s office. Emma doesn’t think a judge will go against Regina, so when she decides to confront Regina about the records (yes, please, lets let the person we’re trying to take down know we are looking into their financials), she decides to plant a bug, something she would need a court order to do. She changed her mind pretty fast about playing by the rules. And then, when they miss the secret meeting that they follow Regina to, Emma decides to just break into Regina’s office and steal her files!  Emma has a quick change of heart when she realizes she did exactly what she told Henry she wouldn’t do, stoop to Regina’s level, and that all their ‘evidence’ is illegally obtained, so it won’t hold up in court. Emma’s pretty much done at this point, so Sidney pulls out the box of photos Regina had him take of her when she came to town. He also says he’ll go after Regina if Emma won’t. Now, here is where it goes off the rails for me. If Emma had let Sidney confront Regina at the City Council meeting without her being a part of it, she would have been able to look into his accusations without it coming back that things were obtained illegally.  It would have been Sidney, not a member of law enforcement, who had stolen the files, and then Emma could have confiscated them for evidence. But no, she decides to play her hand at the City Council meeting and ends up getting her ass handed to her by Regina when she reveals it’s a playground she’s building. So now Emma looks like a sheriff with a vendetta against the mayor because she accused Regina at a public forum and Regina tells Emma to stay away from Henry, so now she’s lost the one person who believed in her.

Evil Queen/Regina: I think I said in either episode one or two that the Evil Queen doesn’t know how to play a long con, that she only thinks in the short term, well, I was wrong. The way EQ manipulates Genie is genius. The moment she sees him she knows she can use him. We haven’t seen how Regina acted before she was the Evil Queen. We saw her in The Heart is a Lonely Hunter after Leopold died. She seemed at that point to be sweet and then we saw that she had been plotting all along. Snow seems to believe she is a sweet and loving step-mother, right up until she realizes that The Huntsman is meant to kill her under Regina’s orders. We don’t know how long Regina and Leopold have been married, so we don’t know how long she has been planning his murder.  Did EQ ever love Leopold?  Was this an arranged marriage? Was EQ nice at one point and morphed into the EQ because of this marriage? Hopefully, plot points we will learn in the future. But we see her skillful handling of Genie. She sees that he is taken with her, she uses it to her advantage. She makes him believe that she is lonely and unworthy of his love. She pretends she is going to kill herself with the Agrabahn Viper and makes Genie believe it is his idea to kill the king for her. Once his usefulness is done, she shows her true colors. Although, she has provided safe passage for him when she could have just let him take the blame and be killed, so it seems she had some feelings for him.

Regina uses Sidney in much the same way she used him as Genie, except, due to the curse, he doesn’t understand why he’s so devoted to her when he knows she’s using him. Regina knows just what to tell him to get him to do what she wants, and she tells him exactly what to say to Emma so she will do what Regina wants. Notice that when Emma accuses Regina of building a summer house in the woods with the stolen funds, Regina already has a slide presentation ready to go about the playground. She knew Sidney would steer Emma in the direction to confront her at the City Council meeting. And Regina uses the leverage she has over Emma making a fool of herself to keep her away from Henry. Game, set, match.

Snow/Mary Margaret: Neither are in this episode that much. Snow basically feeds into her father’s obsession with her. He calls her ‘fairest in all the land’ like her mother. She doesn’t seem to be bonding with step-mother dearest either as neither of them were talking to each other in the garden or the king’s party.

Mary Margaret is continuing her ‘affair’ with David. They are having secret picnics out by the old toll bridge, and she clings to Sidney’s advice that ‘sometimes doing a bad thing for a good reason is okay’ as to how she can justify her affair.

Henry: He’s sad that his castle is first destroyed by the storm, and then torn down by Regina. He also loses the story book when Regina tears it down, as he had hidden it in a toolbox in the sand. He later tries to recreate the story book from memory in his own notebook. Later, he’s playing on the new playground and tells Emma that she doesn’t have to listen to Regina when she tells him they can’t see each other for awhile.

The Stranger: He still doesn’t have a name. We only see him twice this episode. Once when Henry is trying to recreate the story book. Henry wants to know why the Stranger is really there, and he responds with ‘stuff’ (as was Henry’s answer when he asked what the book was about), and second when we see he has taken the toolbox and is now in possession of the story book. He seems in shock and awe and that this he knows exactly what it is that he is looking at.

Gold: Again, very little screen time, but he does give Emma and Sidney some good advice. He tells them that ‘emotional entanglements can lead us down very dangerous paths.’ Speaking from experience again I assume. He also tries to ally himself with Emma again but she turns him down. He has some agenda that he needs Emma for, we just don’t know what it is yet.

Henry, Sr.: We see the depth of his love for Regina, as he will do anything to help her escape her marriage. He even mentions this to Genie that the guards know he would die for Regina. He goes to Genie with the box containing the viper and tells him that it will help free Regina. Does he know how evil Regina is becoming, does he know that the king will be dying once the vipers get to Regina or does he honestly think she will use it to kill herself like she makes the Genie believe? I am very interested in Henry, Sr. and Regina’s background. He loves her very much, so how did he let Regina get into a loveless marriage. Why is he her manservant? Where is Regina’s mother?

Questions:

When was Sidney fired from the paper? After he ran an article about Emma being in jail? After he lost the election? Was that just part of the ploy to get Emma to feel sorry for him? Has this scheme of Regina’s been going on since the election?

How long was it between Genie coming to the castle and the king’s birthday?

Is there a judicial system in Storybrooke?

How did Genie get the mirror out of the lamp to give to Regina? 

How does Regina not spot the sheriff’s car following her into the woods? They are the only two cars on the road!

Did Gold give Emma and Sidney a lift back to town or did they call a tow truck?

Didn’t Sidney say he was fired from the paper? Why do he and Emma meet at the newspaper office to look at the blueprints and escrow statements?

Did Emma even look at the blueprints? They clearly state the ‘mansion’ Emma thinks Regina is building is only 4 feet tall if she read the measurements.

Why is the playground being built in the middle of the woods?

How did the playground get built so fast? Henry was playing on it the day of or after the council meeting.

Is the Stranger the author of the book?

Observations:

Genie states that he’s granted 1001 wishes and seen them all go wrong. 1001 is not divisible by 3, so either he’s exaggerating or some people didn’t get to make all their wishes. Most likely this is a reference to 1001 Arabian Nights, the collection of stories Aladdin is originally from.

The lamp still grants wishes without the genie.

Regina’s name in EF is also Regina.

Not only does Regina’s computer not have a password, but it turns on immediately!

Emma types in ‘land, sold, Gold, property’ to find the correct files on Regina’s computer.

Regina has a large amount of skeleton keys in her office.

Even if Regina used the City Council funds to build a playground, it’s still illegal to take the money secretly and build a playground without the rest of the council’s approval. 

The Agrabahn Viper has a head on either end and no tail.

The jewels in the lamp start out green. Once all the wishes are made they are now red.

Timeline Issues:

Sidney tells Emma that Regina stole the City Council funds at least 3 weeks ago (according to the records). Emma confronts Regina about it and plants the bug that day and then follows Regina to the meeting with Gold that night. Obviously, Regina is buying the land to build the playground on, unless she’s sending Emma on a wild goose chase. Then it seems as though Emma and Sidney go to break into Regina’s office later that night, or possibly the next night. Then the City Council meeting is the next day and since Regina so conveniently has the slide show presentation ready about the new playground, it would seem she was planning on bringing it up to the council. After the meeting, Regina tells Emma to stay away from Henry. We next see Emma watching Henry on the already built playground, most likely later that same day or the next day. How is this playground built already? Also, Emma wears the exact same outfit in every single scene in this episode even though it takes place over several days (black pants, dark grey turtleneck, grey beanie, and blue, leather, racer jacket). Regina has three changes of clothing throughout.

I didn’t like this episode. Emma is made a fool of by using her emotions instead of her instincts. She’s manipulated by both Sidney and Regina and makes awful choices. Regina is now attempting to play nice by asking Emma to do her job as sheriff instead of looking for things that aren’t there. She never once raises her voice or insults Emma as she had been doing. And Emma paid the price for her foolishness and can’t see Henry for awhile. Honestly, this episode should have been called Fool in Love or Foolish Heart for how foolish Emma, Genie, and Leopold were in this episode.

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