#the kids are altright

[itsyveinthesky]

[falllpoutboy]

imagine trying so hard to diss someone you can literally only bring up 1) the fact that they have big feet, 2) they survived a gun violence altercation and 3) they have a dead mom

[thetiniestkris]

god i hate reddit. remind me never to touch the site again.

[weaselbeaselpants]

Legit Bad-take/Bad-Faith Helluvaverse critics you should not trust if you see them

Interpersonal squabbles within the critical tag are irrelevant, sorry. This here is a genuine warning against users you should keep your distance from in regards to any VivziePop drama-discourse because their names may come up and you should know what it is that crossed the line.

Starlatte/Starvader/HonestHazbinCritiques/OhGodDude and Woomycritiques/RaySquid - Serial harasser(s). Long story incoming. Starlatte was/is a Vivcritical who got involved in the fandom back in 2019/2020 when she was a minor and didn't tell anyone. Her blog on tumblr was HonestHazbinCritiques where she made some good points but also managed to find/be a part of everyone else's takes in the critical community. Her relationship with several criticalblogs turned sour when she started lashing out, talking over people, being accused of faking her age, and doing stuff like arguing with irl sexworkers abt how they should feel about Angel Dust. Whatever her age actually was at the time, she was also sending her own rewrite scripts and fanwritten episodes to Spindlehorse in order to 'fix' Hazbin. In 2021 Star returned to Tumblr under the name "Oh-God-Dude" w/o disclosing to new people who she was while also starting shit. When said new ppl found out her past and got mad at her, she proceeded to block-backtalk every one of them.

Woomycritiques (twitter handle: Raysquid) is a critical blogger who stans Star and calls everyone else in the critical community an obsessed stalker while lashing out herself. She accused others of racism (unfounded), her friends of predation just for being proship (not the 'cest and underage is good'-kind, the "I like some problematic stuff in fic-context"-kind), and heckled Dirgentlemen over how much they should hate Helluva, and more.

Regardless of if you believe Woomy and Star are the same person, which ppl do, they are both -by now- adult persons who have been asked to stop and DIDN'T, which is why people don't trust them. Star and Woom were asked to tone it down, stop making accusations and even asked by many criticals to leave and stop talking about Helluvaverse as she/they seem to have nothing good to say about it. To put that into perspective, cuz I know some HH/HB fans are gonna be reading this: the people who've self-styled themselves antis and criticals begged this person to leave cuz she had nothing nice to say and was being a nuisance. I know the stans think that's all of us anyway, so let that sink in.

LincarRox aka ToyTaker - Creep. Nasty jealous stalker freak who got kicked out of Helluvaverse servers and Aminos for saying nasty shit like how he "wants to put a baby" in Viv. No really. He took his shit and grievances to BadWebComics wiki under the name TheToyTaker while also seemingly trying to get work at Spindlehorse in order to have access to Viv directly and to 'fix' her show. He did so by faking his animation portfolio. BWW did eventually catch on and kick him out but yeah....bad. May or may not still be going under his old pseudonyms, but regardless if you see someone talking weirdly sexually abt Viv while saying they were "let go" both by SH and BWW, get out now. That's probably him.

Animation Call-Out - Bigoted shitlord. Twitter user who rags on Vivz' controversies w other people but also hates gays and BIPOCs. Admitted to submitting one of the anonymous reviews against Spindlehorse "for fun" amidst legitimate ex-employees. All of the reviews, even the ones that seem the most validating/believable should be taken with a grain of salt I believe especially since they are coming to us anonymously, but when a racist person admits to def being one of those fake reviews for "Lolz" sake, that's def when shit's hit the fan.

DoodleToons - Also bigoted creeperlooser. Altright white kid who hates BIPOC existing in anything and admits to hating Viv's stuff for their LGBTisms and 'demons'. Yes, there legit are bad-faith critics who are homophobic. Just because Viv and her crew have a way of saying that's EVERY critic of her work doesn't mean there aren't shitty people out there.

[slocumjoe]

Mayb it is simply my judgemental no fun allowed ass (derogatory, it is a character flaw) but whenever I see people lust over hat guy from nipton I assume they are a cis straight white mom who hates her kids and unironically thinks fifty shades is the height of romance and eroticism. He is so mayonnaise. He has maybe eight lines of dialogue before you throw dynamite at him and his 4chan goobers. "I didn't kill him!" Okay but why. Why not. Literally why not. Its not like there's cops. You didn't even try? You didn't even try to throw dynamite on him?? You fell for 4chan altright fake-sparta idealist's dumbass eugenics crap bullshit about being too cool to die??? That's embarrassing keep that to yourself

[fanfiction-artist-prototype]

The Riddler, Donatello (Tmnt) and Elizabeth Burke

Send me 3 characters and I'll tell you which I'd Fake Date/Enemies to Lovers/Slow Burn

... I'm feeling bullied, but in the "shit they know my interests too well, how could I have foreseen my friend knowing my interests" kind of way.

Fake Date:

Riddler.

Like it REALLY depends on the iteration of Riddler.

Battison? No. Kick the incel, altright pipeline inspired terrorist to the side for these purposes.

That one comic I have on my shelf where its a crossover with scooby doo and the gang demolish his plot bc Fred takes apart the trap to study it, and Nygma is bamboozled by a talking dog? The older live action movies? The Under the Red Hood animated movie Riddler who has enough healthy fear to hesitate on attacking Robin when the kids gunning for his FACE?

I can make that work.

He's an interesting character, fake dating privileges would be good and you'd just have to keep him entertained with his 1 true love, suduko books.

Enemies to Lovers:

Donatello, but SPECIFICALLY either the 2007 animated movie Donatello or the Michale Bay Donatello bc those are the only ones old enough for me.

And like. It'd be cool to be like a minor antagonist turned love interest in TMNT, I'd love to have my Mona Lisa arc sign me up!

Donnie isn't my consistent fave but like... yeah I'd be happy. I'd also probably have cool kunoich training which YES.

Slow Burn:

Elizabeth Burke.

I could be a better partner than Peter. I could woo her, I could - *proceeds to ramble*

Anyway. I think Elizabeth Burke deserves some illicit romantic life in her character. I could be that. The random side character you don't pay too much attention to till I'm turning up in too many scenes and then boom Els filling for divorce. Give me from season 1 and you'd have a Peters going through divorce arc by season 3.

[coldforestnight]

That fanart of Roman as an altright streamer is sooo good. In my Find Kendall au (the au where he’s a working class kid in England fantasizing about his abusive dad being head of an American media company) that’s literally exactly Roman

[drpupper]

bitches will buy a shoddy game made by an altrighter funding trans genocide in the uk and then be like "hey dont think your hands are clean. you watched barney as a kid too"

[shadowmaat]

I tend to be very distrustful of people who try to censor words like “penis” “rape” and “pedo.” Hell, anyone using “pedo” as a term is someone I’ll try to avoid at all costs. Also, that “q-slur” bullshit is right out the window.

There are legitimate reasons to censor sex-related words, but they mostly have to do with trying to avoid the bots. I’m more concerned with those who see it as a Moral Crusade and who go after those who do use the uncensored terms and accuse them of being deviant or worse.

The folks doing this are either very young or incredibly sheltered (or both). Many of them are antis and many are attacking AO3 (and individual authors/artists) for perceived crimes and moral failings. They’ve bought into the neo-puritanical nonsense that’s been growing and spreading like kudzu over the past few years. They have a LOT in common with the altright/fascist/white supremacy movement, though I’m sure they’d deny it. They use a lot of the same terminology, though. Make a lot of the same accusations. Claim the same false soapbox of protecting children.

I could go on and on about this, but TBH I already have. Multiple times. Not worth revisiting it yet again, but goddamn, watching kids turn into fascists right in front of my eyes is creepy as fuck. Someday they’re gonna find leopards eating their faces off and wonder how it could possibly have happened.

[metalgearsolid2]

always weird seeing blogs that mostly post normal silly memes and then suddenly WHAM hit you with some altright shit. like going straight from funny cat pics labeled "snarf" or whatever to unironically talking about how gay people are grooming kids. absolutely nutso. dont you know those cats arent for you

[papirouge]

I'm glad everything went well with your surgery and that you took some time to figure things out... i hope you're on a better head space - i know what is like to deal with suicide ideation so you should put your mental health first. It also makes me happy to know your mom can enjoy her retirement traveling and doing what she wants.

What you mentioned about that policeman who killed Nahel it's the same thing that happened with Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, remember that case? Conservatives donanted so much money to Zimmerman that he basically retired and could enjoy the rest of his life loaded.

And I dont know what to even think about black women who mess around with altright and white supremacist men. Like I know the men are just thinking with their dicks, but what do these women even gain in these relationships? Is it like a kink or something? You know how Candace Owens one time posted a pic of her kids and people in the comments were being vile towards them, calling them monkeys and ugly and disgusting. Like how can you stand having these kind of people as your audience? She obv deleted the picture and never did it again.

I was thinking that another reason why some tradmen and tradwomen don't mix is because some of them are womanchild and manchild. Basically, there's a breed of tradman that wants his wife to take care of him like he's her baby, never doing any of the domestic work, not even loadong the dishwater or making the bed. And there's a breed of tradwife that wants her husband to take care of everything so she can relax and "rest in her feminity", whatever that means. You would think they would work but they don't, as the both of them can't be the baby of the relationship.

Thank you for thek kind message anon ♡

I'm doing a little better. Lately, God showed me he was still there, and that's the most reassuring thing EVER. I had to let go lf things..and he's currently helping me to rely on faith and faith alone...

Leaving the internet for a while helped me a lot. For some reason I thought of not coming back lol but I love you all so much..i think if I leave Tumblr for good I'll tell you.. that's what you deserve 🩷

Yeah it's funny to see conservatives/rightoid complain about how the immigrants are sucking off the country's money & how they they (the good citizens) are getting poorer, and then turn around and throw money at randos who killed someone 🥴

I'm not surprised about what you say about Candace Owens. I think she's a genuinely smart woman and she definitely knows that 90% of the ppl she hangs arounnf with don't respect her. She knows the moment she steps out of the line she's done (apparently that what happened to Tomi Lahren after she said she was pro choice - I remember homegirl was conservative sweetheart during Trump mandate and was EVERYWHERE 💀)

She's just beneficial to them for being the 'token Black conservative'. The grifting is mutual so I gues there's no victim out there.

The Prophet Apostate did a great job reading her hypocrital support for Andrew Tate when she dunked on Steven Crowder to filth :

Both Candace and Blaire White are similar because they both embody tragic grifter who will have no issue hanging around people they know that. Blaire White loves to defend himself saying "at least conservatives will not tell me to kill myself like liberals do uwu" yeah, and? They still hate you, boo. Just bc they're not as blunt as liberals telling you to kill yourself doesn't mean they respect or genuinely like you.... Imagine having such low self esteem that people you can even state they genuinely like you BUT don't tell you to kill to kill yourself is enough for you to hang around them, go to their show, etc. This man is lowkey so pathetic... (there's no wonder he looks so miserable). Does he even realize that if he wasn't the token conservative trans, his rightoid buddies would clown him like they do with the liberal one?

And yes, the thing with online tradmen is that they're hypergamous (in a way) when that role traditionally abide to women: tradmen want a tradwife to level up (sexually, livelihood, etc) and tradfem want to level up (marry financially secure men to build a family). That's why they fail matching with tradfem who are ALSO hypergamous. It's like trying to stick magnets on the same polarity lol

There's indeed something extremely childish in men stating everything they expect fro from a women, when they are supposed to be the provider.... I guess that's why I find tradmen so repulsive...

[itsyveinthesky]

NAH, WELCHE ALTERKLASSE IST MAL WIEDER NICHT AUSREICHEND WÄHLEN GEGANGEN UND JETZT HABEN WIR DEN SALAT.

Andererseits haben bei der Ü18 Wahl in Bayern ja auch CSU und AfD vorne gelegen also, k.A ob gut oder schlecht ehrlich gesagt.

[fly-sky-high-09]

Sorry I've been constantly rambling about SU stuff recently but I'm finding this throwback very interesting and remembering some stuff from the past has me like. what was that all about (aside from you know "oops all altright" bit)

So I'm listening to this video and I assumed I listened to Lily Orchard's video in the past but I HAVEN'T but I ASSUMED I did because wildly enough, their whole video, word for word, was one evening I spent with ex friend who was going on about the SAME thing to the whole group hanging out that night on why SU is bad

And I kid you not the whiplash I got from this realization had me sit and go "... goddamn and they like. semi convinced me some of these stuff too"

Which is bonkers but in reality doesn't matter years later, it was just that I remember saying "Ruby and Sapphire are not bad representation" and wondering where they got the idea they are

and it was this fucking Lily Orchard video. It was this video and I just assumed it was their cleaver analysis on the subject from their own perspective. Because they talked about "rebeca sugar fucked it up so badly while it could have been better and should have done better as a queer person herself" with such frustration and anger I just figured it was coming from their own critical thinking

And like after I stepped away from that group I did realize it's kind of a bs to hold the show accountable for the stuff mentioned in that way and proper criticism it needs but it's really weird how to the word their "criticism" was to lily orchard's video..... and they're a queer person themselves!

And Hiding in Private is very easily disproving those points like. Even making good counter ones which are, admittedly, much easier to understand today than it would have been back then.

maybe that was it. idk, just different times different influences on people's opinions. It's just sad to see how much SU suffered for it while the show was already suffering from how CN handled its airing and censorship.

[goblinbongwater]

I don't like rambling bout it but the thing about people you use purity culture as an attack word that pisses me off is when they get called out for something like pedophilia and then claim it's purity culture when they obviously get backlash are just the worst, it's like people who say kids shouldn't be supervised online at all then complain about the altright stuff that floats around without people knowing cause the internet of a few years ago even was massively different to how it is now (YouTube's system as example)

[furby-organist]

> “Imagine finding displays of hospitality presumptuous. Don’t come to the Happy Hotel -- you’d hate it when I’m on kitchen duty! We have a medic on staff, but removing that giant stick up your derriere may be above her paygrade!”