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shummthechumm · 8 months
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speaking of goosefeather and yellowfang i actually gave a reason for why they have powers at all in the rewrite.
it essentially boils down to starclan being terrified at the near immediate promise of superpowered beings being born from their collective action to allow/vote for skyclan to be exiled; because they pissed off whatever higher power that resides beyond them. it's established in canon that starclan is not responsible for every prophecy, INCLUDING the po3 one.
so, in an effort to combat these future threats, they attempted to create the three on their own. and if that failed, they could still use these cats as tools to fight whatever was to come.
goosefeather was the first "blessed" cat, and it shows. his powers tap into that higher source of prophecies/omens, things that the mortal ear was never meant to hear--it fucks with him. he gets bombarded with visions and warnings of scenarios he will never live to see, and it ends up causing more trouble for himself and the clan than good. starclan realized this and goes "oh shit" and backs off for a while.
yellowfang is next, though her power is reeled back a fair amount. it's still intrusive, specifically when she's younger, but it does something. she's pushed into the healers den because of this.
i have more thoughts about brokenkit being framed as a harebringer of destruction by starclan to take some heat off their back, but that's a very WIP thing atm.
tdlr; starclan fucked around and found out...and unintentionally unleashed multiple tyrants onto the forest. one plus is that a certain ginger kittypet is brought to their attention because of this chaos, though.
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bonefall · 1 year
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Tell us more about Larkstripe! She sounds cool as hell
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[ID: Larkstripe from the Better Bones AU, along with her young son, Ripplekit. Larkstripe is a silver-gray cat with yellow eyes, and black, diamond-shaped markings. A black stripe stretches from her cheek down to her paw. Ripplekit is a fluffy black kitten with heart-shaped ginger markings on one side of his body.]
A minor character in Ripplestar's Rot!
In every time, there have always been people who've done the right thing and gotten punished for it. Never believe that there was an oppressive system, or a cruel choice, that someone didn't fight against. History is written by the winners, but the truth will never die.
When SkyClan was exiled, the Clerics protested immediately. 1/5th of the stars would be discarded like trash, their descendants scattered to a horrible fate. Larkstripe of WindClan rallied her fellow medics, going on strike against the four remaining leaders.
When Swiftstar got sick, Larkstripe reminded him of their demands, and told him,
"If you won't listen to your Cleric, then speak to StarClan yourself. If you live, I will take it as an omen that this suffering is their will. If you die, then we are correct. Gamble with your last life, Swiftstar, we have been clear."
But the deputy, Dalerunner, did not intend to negotiate.
In those days, the Cleric's Vow was not law. It was a personal oath that the Clerics took between mentor to apprentice, and served to encourage the cat to value medicine above loyalty to the Clan. Larkstripe had a single child, Ripplekit, but no cat had dared to accuse the ferocious senior Cleric of neglecting her commitment to her job.
But Dalestar did. She had allowed Swiftstar to die and refused to council him, destabilizing the entire Clan and leading the Clerics into rebellion. All Clan cats must be loyal, and StarClan had clearly stopped talking to her because of her violation of the vow. Ripplekit was taken from her to make an example, tossed to ShadowClan and raised at Birdflight's belly.
The Cleric's Vow was codified into law, and the strike was broken. Larkstripe had lost everything. Ripplekit never got to see his mother again, she was said to have died of a broken heart shortly before his apprenticeship.
More trivia, and an alt color, under the cut!
Larkstripe was previously Larkwing FQ! She has been renamed due to conflict with Sedgewhisker's daughter in the modern day.
Because of changes, Larkstripe is going to get a successor. That's going to be Thrushpelt WC, who is also getting a renaming to Thrushbreeze.
Larkstripe canonically links Mapleshade's Vengeance to Cloudstar's Journey, which is what my reworked timeline is based on.
Ripplekit was 4 moons old when he was taken from his mother, similar to being 8 or so. He remembers her very clearly.
Lark didn't have a mate. The honor sire is someone in WindClan.
This was before the Queen's Rights, but Honor-Siring within a Clan existed before that. The father was known but not involved.
She was experienced, self-assured, and intense. Honor and honesty were her favorite values; Ripplestar is a lot like her.
I slowly turned Ripple's generic blotches into heart-shapes and I realized it would be cool as hell if Larkstripe had diamonds. I just think card motifs are Neat.
I forgot that she's canonically silver-and-black and corrected it as soon as I remembered, but I did finish a coloring before I did. Bonus tortie Larkstripe be upon ye.
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Graystripe died only very recently and both kits from his first litter went from being victims of TigerClan to saviors, never mind that the code is only just now being far more lenient when it comes to swapping. With all this in mind, I'm really not surprised that the story is still well known and cats from different Clans swap stories all the time. My point is, there are plenty of reasons for why the story could still be kept alive, even if how it's brought up in the book does seem pretty clunky at best.
Mapleshade, however, isn't really that good of a comparison to make since I don't think anyone would want to remember a cat who went on a killing spree after the kits she had with an unfaithful mate died following her exile by a leader who'd been too clouded by his own grief to enact a less harsh punishment, if only out of shame from both sides. In ThunderClan, her memory was kept alive for apparently as long as Nettlebreeze was since Goosefeather had never heard of her before meeting her, and though we don't know the circumstances in RiverClan, they'd still have even less reason to think about her since she wasn't one of them and her actions affected them the least, unless you count Cloudberry moving to ThunderClan and Reedshine probably raising her kits alone, but I like to believe not many cats mourned Appledusk, either.
I feel like Mapleshade probably should have been a much bigger deal as long as Pinestar was alive given that this is his personal family history but she was just forgotten? Also why wasn’t it a story passed down in Crookedstar’s family about how great grandpa was murdered by a jealous ThunderClan she-cat?
My point is just that historical events that happened the early arcs tend to be very well remembered despite most or if not all the cats being directly involved being dead. It’s not even like they’re misinterpreted it’s like these cats have historical records somewhere.
But yeah I can buy that ThunderClan and RiverClan could know the Graystripe story but SkyClan for sure would just be sitting there like “Graystripe did what 70 cat years ago?” And “oh Graystripe is that dead light in the mist ThunderClan elder? I forgot his name for ages”
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frostfour · 1 year
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Just read your Blackstar/foot SkyClan idea and I'm in love!!!
Question though, when he is exiled by Russetfur, would he have his lives taken away? I was just imagining that StarClan would strip him of his lives in a dream or maybe he would go to the Moonstone for advice and it would end up happening there instead? I'm curious!
If you already said so then I'm sorry, I read it very late last night so I might've missed a few things. Oops.
Also would you allow any fan art or animation of this idea? If not thats totally cool (*ゝωб*)b
Thank you so much! This AU is definitely my pet project - I'm glad that other people are also enjoying it! Anyone is free to make content about this AU just make sure to tag this account in it since I'd love to see any creations.
As far as I am aware (if I've made a mistake feel free to correct me) but during the battle against Bloodclan Blackfoot has yet to receive his lives as Scourge declares war over Tigerstar's body. There is physically no time for him to travel to Highstones and back in time so all efforts are put on the battle and Blackfoot leads as deputy. It's usually unheard of to put off the lives ceremony but when the alternative is the possible extinction of all clans... he can wait. So Russetfur is able to challenge Blackfoot, on the battlefield once the fighting has died down with the other leaders as audience. There are other cats to be dealt with so the clans take a night of rest to mourn the dead and hold a meeting the next day. Had Russetfur not made her challenge in front of the other clans it likely would've been covered up to save face. Runningnose agrees and without a medicine cat he wouldn't be able to get his lives before the gathering.
There are some stragglers but the main focus is what is to be done with Leopardstar and Blackfoot as the highest ranking individuals of Tigerclan left alive. Leopardstar is more convincing than Blackfoot is and is able to pin most of the blame on Tigerstar and Blackfoot over her own involvement. She has lives from Starclan and despite Riverclan being divided she still has devoted supporters so she talks herself out of exile. The other leaders respect for her has been diminished but damaged pride can be recovered from. Blackfoot lacks the same support: had he gained his lives he may have been able to argue that Starclan approved but in a cruel twist of fate there was no time for that to have been possible. Shadowclan is so divided he doesn't have enough of a following for cat's to stick up for him. So while Blackfoot is chased away, Russetfur and Runningnose accompany Windclan home from the gathering to travel for her lives ceremony.
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redux-iterum · 3 years
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What's one part of the warrior code you would change if you could and what plot points does in effect in the series?
Lynx cheated and went with three, but they're good ones.
LYNX: Ignoring the obvious Code Thirteen being awful on principle, I'd say Code Six should include requiring cats to visit the Moonpool to complete their warrior training. Had that been done, then the uprising of young Shadowclan cats in AVoS probably wouldn't have happened and newer cats wouldn't be treating the Moonpool as too holy for anyone other than medicine cats and soon-to-be leaders to visit.
Code Two I'd only change one little part as a quality of life update, enabling hunters to catch prey that didn't cross too far into another clan's territory and not get their fur raked off by hissy patrol cats. Hopefully this amendment would also improve attitudes towards traveling cats walking on neutral grounds (like the shoreline) so you won't have some grouchy border patrol going, "Don't you dare think about crossing into our territory! Don't you dare! If you do, I'm gonna pluck your whiskers out!" and it's just tiring at this point. And there's one code I wish were enforced a little more.
Code Sixteen was literally established a year or two before Skyclan was brought back and no one cited it as evidence that they should keep it around?
DULLARD: Really, there're problems that can be found with every part of the code, official rule or simply traditional, but if I had to pick one, I would absolutely take off the restriction on medicine cats and their families. Not just because it's a silly rule that only exists because of one single incompetent cat at the very beginning of Clan history, but because its wording of the reason for this rule - "they must be able to heal all cats equally" - neglects the fact that they may have siblings, or cousins, or parents, and they'd be just as attached to those cats as they would a mate or children. Wouldn't that also cause problems? But it's not illegal for them to have that kind of family, right? Just the one they choose for themselves is wrong? Why?
Plus, like, bear in mind that this law has caused so much god damn trouble in the past, solely because of what it prohibits. If Leafpool had been allowed to have kits, then the vast majority of the drama in the third arc would not have happened (most of it would be on them being half-WindClan, true, but that's a secret that's much easier to keep, since queens don't have to name the father) and Hollyleaf could have been saved, because it wasn't a big-ass deal. If Yellowfang had been able to raise Brokenstar, she could have potentially steered him to a better future because of her direct involvement, rather than a bitch of a foster mother. And we don't even know how many medicine cats have sneakily had children before and had Brokenstar's situation happen with a foster, or been caught, severely punished, demoted, publicly humiliated, or even exiled, which lead to something terrible happening because there's no medicine cat now! This law only causes more problems than it solves.
Now, if the reason was something different, like "a medicine cat needs to be available at all times and having a litter can interrupt that", I could understand, though that can be solved easily with having multiple medicine cats around. But that's not the reason. The reason is self-contradictory and stupid. I would dearly love to see the code be altered in the next arc to allow this particular set of relationships. It'd at least force the writers to come up with new stories.
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Honeykit > Honeypaw > Honeysplash > Honeystar
Kit > Apprentice > Warrior > Deputy > Leader
She-cat - SkyClan
Mother: Bristlelight
Sister: Thrushleaf
Mentors: Pouncestar, Fevernose
Dark Forest Mentor: Snowstar
Apprentices: Seedfall, Silverthistle
She and her sister, Thrushkit, started out as thick as thieves, but as Thrushkit grew closer to Thistlekit, daughter of Pouncestar and Sharpsong, and the two became practically inseparable, heeding no mind to the young she-kit they left behind. Honeykit would often try to tell Thistlekit off for ordering her sister around like a slave, but Thistlekit and Thrushkit would ignore her or yell at her for it, both claiming they were happy the way they were. As they all became apprentices, Honeypaw felt more and more separated and ignored, feeling as though even her clanmates didn’t notice her. Pouncestar may have appointed her as his apprentice, but she felt as though no one except him cared. Her mother was loving, but died young into their apprenticeship.
This led her to the Dark Forest, where she was offered training to be the best warrior that not one could ignore. Eager to be important to her clan, she accepted. She trained every night, the training getting harsher, and her days getting more exhausting. She was dead on her feet but refused to stop. Pouncestar noticed her exhaustion, and he and Sharpsong both started to get her to rest and to tell them what’s wrong, caring for her. It was one night when Pouncestar entered the apprentice’s den to find both Thistlepaw and Thrushpaw gone and Honeypaw shivering and shaking and growling as scars formed on her that he understood. He woke Honeypaw up, dragged her to the medicine cat den where Appletail, current medicine cat and Thrushpaw’s mentor, healed her wounds. While Honeypaw at first denied all involvement with the Dark Forest, Pouncestar quickly explained that he too once trained with them, shocking Honeypaw. She believed her mentor and leader was too bouncy, cheerful and energetic to be in a place like Dark Forest, and then he turned her words on her, telling her he believed she was too gentle and kind-hearted… or used to be, before Dark Forest training made her eager for a fight to prove herself, even if it was with her own clanmates.
After that, Honeypaw still kept going to the Dark Forest, but she tried to reign in her temper, and get more sleep. Pouncestar and Sharpsong both didn’t want her going there anymore, but she still wanted the extra training despite their protests, which they reluctantly respected for now... Until Honeypaw got into a fight with her sister, and attacked Thrushpaw. Pouncestar pulled her aside and told her she would not be going to the Dark Forest anymore, or she would be kicked out of the clan. Honeypaw fearfully agreed, but how would she stop going to the Place of No Stars? It wasn't her chose... So when she visited there the next night, she told her Dark Forest mentor, Snowstar, that she couldn't visit anymore, and he asked her why. When she explained, he and his friend Snakeclaw pulled Pouncestar from his slumber, and attacked the leader. Honeypaw joined the fight to defend her mentor, but Snowstar killed Pouncestar. In retaliation, Honeypaw killed Snakeclaw, and Snowstar said he was proud of her, and that he'd be there for her leader ceremony. After that, he left her, and she woke up.
She ran to the leader's den, and yelled for Pouncestar to wake up. Sharpsong, who was sleeping beside him, startled awake, and realized what had happened. Filled with sorrow, Sharpsong told Honeypaw Pouncestar had been on his last life, despite still being a fairly young leader. He was a reckless cat, who always through himself head first into danger... In the morning, the clan mourned Pouncestar, and welcomed Sharpstar as their new leader, and Auburnheart as their deputy. Honeypaw got a new mentor, Fevernose. She was quiet after that, but respectful and dedicated to her apprentice duties, if a bit distant from her clanmates now. She was still friendly and kind-hearted, but her clanmates noticed her distance. Instead of bringing her closer, they let her keep that distance. The only cats left that talked to her daily was her mentor and Sharpstar.
Her warrior assessment felt bland, and her warrior ceremony even more. She no longer fought for her sister to be her sister again, instead watching as Thrushleaf and Thistlesong ran off every day, close as can be. Her spirit started to come back when she was appointed as Seedpaw's mentor. She got along well with the energetic, goofy tom, and enjoyed watching him look like a mouse-brain in front of his crush on his denmate, Daisypaw. But she was even more pleasantly surprised when Auburnheart was killed by badgers and then Honeysplash was made the new deputy. Her clanmates were just as surprised, wondering if such a detached cat could one day be their leader. Many believed she was only made deputy because Sharpstar viewed her as more of a daughter than her own daughter, Thistlesong, who Sharpstar was suspicious of. Honeysplash, personally, didn't hold as much suspicion towards the silver she-cat, because she believed her anger had blinded her and that any of her suspicions were just lingering feelings of hatred and jealousy.
When Sharpstar lost her final life defending her clan in a battle against ThunderClan, Honeystar felt unprepared to be leader, and afraid. She had only just finished training her first apprentice. And at her leader ceremony, who was there but Snowstar to greet her. Pouncestar, Sharpstar, and Bristlelight quickly rescued Honeystar and took her to the proper place to get her nine lives. Afterwards, she appointed Coilspring as deputy, and then made Thistlesong's kits apprentices as her first act as leader. She made Silverpaw her own apprentice, to prepare herself more. Honeystar bonded well with the young she-cat, who was quiet and hesitant, reminding Honeystar a lot of herself. In fact, Silverpaw admired her sister, Shadepaw, and wanted to do everything she did. It remained Honeystar painfully so of her own kithood with her sister, Thrushpaw. She taught Silverpaw kindness and independence as best she could. To Honeystar's surprise, she started noticing Thistlesong and Thrushleaf's angry glares towards her, and how they always took Silverpaw and Shadepaw out on their own. Honeystar dismissed it, wondering if they were feeling envious like Honeystar once had been.
Early on into Silverpaw and Shadepaw's apprenticeships, ShadowClan warrior Morningcloud came barreling into camp, yowling about how he was their father and that he wanted to be with them- in SkyClan. Honeystar was torn, perplexed, and confused, but Thistlesong and Thrushleaf wanted nothing to do with him, and the rest of the clan wasn't too happy to have the tom interrupt their peace. So Honeystar turned him away apologetically, and she would have to do so many more times. She felt bad for Silverpaw though, who seemed genuinely disheartened that her father couldn't stay with them. Honeystar also noticed Silverpaw and Shadepaw drifting apart, as well as drifting away from her parents too, especially after Morningcloud was found dead in the lake. Honeystar stayed as supportive as she could, remembering how Pouncestar and Sharpstar were for her.
To Honeystar's shock, Thistlesong was found murdered in the same place Morningcloud had died. No one knew who did it, but Thrushleaf was heartbroken, Shadepaw enraged, and Silverpaw... cold. Honeystar could never shake the strange feeling that Silverpaw knew something about her mother's death, but never questioned or pressed her on it. She mourned Thistlesong as she would any other clanmate, and moved on. When the apprentices' warrior ceremony came, Thrushleaf requested she name Silverpaw Silverthistle, in honor of her mother, and Honeystar agreed, naming them Shadefur and Silverthistle.
Two moons later, Thrushleaf delivered a prophecy to Honeystar, saying that a cat, hidden in shadows, born of thistles, would be the next deputy. Not soon after, Coilspring was found dead near a den of snakes. So Honeystar appointed Silverthistle as deputy, despite her never having an apprentice. Enraged, and fully believing she deserved to be deputy, Shadefur attacked her sister, but Honeystar ripped her off and exiled her. Shadefur begrudgingly left the clan, declaring she would be leader one day, "with or without this clan!"
Shadefur kept her promise. She created a clan of rogues, BoneClan, and waged war against SkyClan. They attacked the other clans too, but their anger rested solely with SkyClan. Honeystar felt their wrath when she was killed by BoneClan rogues during a battle to protect her clan's territory.
“Slender golden and white she-cat with long limbs.”
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