#this is about a lot of danmei actually...
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renshengs · 1 year ago
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my ass will see a cunning older man with the kind of heartrending trauma that could burn down cities and a younger man who holds a devotion toward him that could tear apart whole landscapes and it's instantly over for me
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leonsrightarm · 1 year ago
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reading some mid toxic yaoi atm and feeling annoyed at how badly thought out this criminal organization seems to be and i really want to leave a review about it but the comments section is currently full of people arguing about problematic media and whether or not the ml is at all redeemable and i feel like it would be kind of weird to drop into the middle of that with 'shut up for a second everyone. the real problem here is that, based on their described practices, realistically this gang CANNOT be making enough money to support this lavish lifestyle.'
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kastukj · 1 year ago
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Thinking of wangxian almost physically hurts i love them so dearly
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fozmeadows · 5 months ago
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There's a lot of conversations to be had around the current influx of Americans to Xiaohongshu (RedNote/Little Red Book) ahead of the TikTok ban, many of which are better articulated by more knowledgeable people than me. And for all the fun various parties of both nationalities seem to having with memes and wholesome interactions, it's undoubtedly true that there's also some American entitlement and exoticization going on, which sucks. But a sentiment I've seen repeatedly online is that, if it's taken actually speaking to Chinese people and viewing Chinese content for Americans to understand that they've been propagandized to about China and its people, then that just proves how racist they are, and I want to push back on that, because it strikes me as being a singularly reductive and unhelpful framing of something far more complex.
Firstly: while there's frequently overlap between racism and xenophobia, the distinction between them matters in this instance, because the primary point of American propaganda about China is that Communism Is Fundamentally Evil And Unamerican And Never Ever Works, and thinking a country's government sucks is not the same as thinking the population is racially inferior. The way most Republicans in particular talk about China, you'd think it was functionally indistinguishable from North Korea, which it really isn't. Does this mean there's no critique to be made of either communism in general or the CCP? Absolutely not! But if you've been told your whole life that communist countries are impoverished, corrupt and dangerous because Communism Never Works, and you've only really encountered members of the Chinese diaspora - i.e., people whose families left China, often under traumatic circumstances, because they thought America would be better or safer - rather than Chinese nationals, then no: it's not automatically racist to be surprised that their daily lives and standard of living don't match up with what you'd assumed. Secondly: TikTok's userbase skews young. While there's certainly Americans in their 30s and older investigating Xiaohongshu, it seems very reasonable to assume that the vast majority are in their teens or twenties - young enough that, barring a gateway interest in something like C-dramas, danmei or other Chinese cultural products, and assuming they're not of Chinese descent themselves, there's no reason why they'd know anything about China beyond what they've heard in the news, or from politicians, or from their parents, which is likely not much, and very little firsthand. But even with an interest in China, there's a difference between reading about or watching movies from a place, and engaging firsthand, in real time, with people from that place, not just through text exchanges, but in a visual medium that lets you see what their houses, markets, shopping centers, public transport, schools, businesses, infrastructure and landmarks look like. Does this mean that what's being observed isn't a curated perspective on China as determined both by Xiaohongshu's TOU and the demographic skewing of its userbase? Of course not! But that doesn't mean it isn't still a representative glimpse of a part of China, which is certainly more than most young Americans have ever had before.
Thirdly: I really need people to stop framing propaganda as something that only stupid bigots fall for, as though it's possible to natively resist all the implicit cultural biases you're raised with and exist as a perfect moral being without ever having to actively challenge yourself. To cite the sacred texts:
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Like. Would the world be a better place if everyone could just Tell when they're being lied to and act accordingly? Obviously! But that is extremely not how anything actually works, and as much as it clearly discomforts some to witness, the most common way of realizing you've been propagandized to about a particular group of people is to interact with them. Can this be cringe and awkward and embarrassing at times? Yes! Will some people inevitably say something shitty or rude during this process? Also yes! But the reality is that cultural exchange is pretty much always bumpy to some extent; the difficulties are a feature, not a bug, because the process is inherently one of learning and conversation, and as individual people both learn at different rates and have different opinions on that learning, there's really no way to iron all that out such that nobody ever feels weird or annoyed or offput. Even interactions between career diplomats aren't guaranteed smooth sailing, and you're mad that random teenagers interacting through a language barrier in their first flush of enthusiasm for something new aren't doing it perfectly? Come on now.
Fourthly: Back before AO3 was banned in China, there was a period where the site was hit with an influx of Chinese users who, IIRC, were hopping over when one of their own fansites got shut down, which sparked a similar conversation around differences in site etiquette and how to engage respectfully. Which is also one of the many things that makes the current moment so deeply ironic: the US has historically criticized China for exactly the sort of censorship and redaction of free speech that led to AO3 being banned, and yet is now doing the very same thing with TikTok. Which is why what's happening on Xiaohongshu is, IMO, such an incredible cultural moment: because while there are, as mentioned, absolutely relevant things to be said about (say) Chinese censorship, US-centrism, orientalism and so on, what's ultimately happening is that, despite - or in some sense because of - the recent surge in anti-Chinese rhetoric from US politicians, a significant number of Americans who might otherwise never have done so are interacting directly with Chinese citizens in a way that, whatever else can be said of it, is actively undermining government propaganda, and that matters.
What it all most puts me in mind of, in fact, is a quote from French-Iranian novelist and cartoonist Marjane Satrapi, namely:
“The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.”
And at this particular moment in history, this strikes me as being a singularly powerful realization for Americans in particular to have.
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grassbreads · 1 year ago
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fucking cackling
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sunderwight · 9 months ago
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Shen Yuan with a Luo Binghe dakimakura is great but sometimes I stop and think about how a role reversal would have looked (i.e. Binghe as the reader who transmigrates in, Shen Yuan as the fictional character he was obsessing over) and oh my god. Fan Binghe who grew up with chronically online geek culture would have been next level in the absence of an actual, physical Shen Yuan/SQQ. Fan Binghe would have owned everything. He probably would have had to commission it all himself, either because the novel wasn't popular enough for the level of desired merch or because the mainstream commercially produced products were too cheap or flimsy or inaccurate for his specifications or probably both. Perfect hand fan recreations. Replica Xiu Ya (it's an actual sword) hanging on his wall. Fanart both done in a classical style (as in, 'what Shen Qingqiu might actually have hanging on his walls') as well as a variety of character portraits and erotic art zines. Printed and hand-bound copies of his favorite fanfics. Somewhere in China there's an amateur bookbinder who is making BANK off of this obsession, producing the most high level gorgeously bound copies of the filthiest smut and fluffiest hurt-comfort teacher/student fics.
Luo Binghe would be controversial in fandom because he is just as nitpicky and wank-y as Shen Yuan, with an extra dose of turning up in the comments sometimes to act like a jealous/possessive boyfriend accusing writers of being a little TOO lustful towards his unlikely waifu, but on the other hand he is rich and he will pay through goddamn nose for anything and everything that caters to his preferences. So a solid chunk of the fan creators just do things they think he'd like because they want in on the cash cow, while much of the rest of the fandom hates his guts because they feel like he hijacked everything with his own fanon and headcanons and obsessions. Shen Yuan isn't even that popular! Most of the rest of the fandom is kind of down on him as a cliche clueless danmei protagonist, they're all there for the score of blueballed love interests. Beautiful Liu Qingge and darkhorse Shang Qinghua and mysterious, tortured Yue Qingyuan and whatever the hell is going on with his evil doppelganger, Shen Jiu. Luo Binghe doesn't ever commission Shen Yuan with any of them, though! He's always solo, or maybe with a faceless tentacle monster or something!
It gets weird. There are probably Woman Buying Wonder Bread-esque memes about Binghe's highly specific kink commissions. On the other hand, Luo Binghe comes down harder than the actual artists on unsanctioned reposts because he commissioned Shen Yuan in that sexy lingerie fondling a really huge sword and it's not just for anyone to go around putting that up on whatever website they please!
He would own several dakimakura and they would arguably be more normal than a lot of the rest of his collection, is what I'm saying. He'd have them in different poses and seasonal outfits and versions that were acceptable for company and ones that had to get tucked into a drawer under the bed every morning because they were for Binghe's eyes only. And it wouldn't even just be the sexy ones, but also the ones where Shizun looks soft and fond and gentle and affectionate. The man was definitely working his way up to commissioning a lifelike Shen Yuan sex doll when the universe did absolutely everyone a favor and yeeted him into a transmigration scenario.
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dangermousie · 6 months ago
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Book Rec
Not many dramas for me to watch (Phone is the sole airing drama I am following), so I've been making up for it by reading a lot.
And I have a book rec:
Long Live Evil by Sarah Rees Brennan - MY LOVE MY LOVE MY LOVE! If you ever want to have strangers stare at you as you cackle in crowded places, this book is for you. I was not particularly interested when I saw the description because I was thinking it was another "grimdark is cool/sociopaths rock" thing which is just not my thing and never was (nothing against it in fiction, just doesn't ping anything for me) but I was stuck at a long layover and the bookstore had it, I flipped and became a goner. I was refusing to put it down even close on no sleep, which shows how good it is.
Anyway, the set up: our FL Rae is a modern 20 year old dying of cancer. She gets offered a chance to live if, upon entering a fantasy series (one that is a favorite of her younger sister, but once she is familiar with through the sister and so has gaps), she obtains a plant that can make anyone healthy etc. She's got nothing to lose so...
The fantasy novel series in question is a dark, gothic gonzo extravaganza with characters who have monikers like The Last Hope, Golden Cobra, the Emperor, the Iron Maid and the blameless' heroine's stepsister, the villainess with the moniker Beauty Dipped in Blood. It is that latter that our heroine transmigrates into - a day before she's set to be executed!
Rae's goal is to survive long enough to be able get the plant - to do that she needs some fast talking and thinking as well a team of her fellow baddies. Will she get the attention of the Emperor, the series' dark, unhinged ML (who in the OG series went all Pedro the Cruel when his true love, the villainess' stepsister died - respect!)? How much will she drag the narrative off-key? (pun! ifkyk) Rae is not interested in romance, friendship, revenge or anything but survival. Yet, as she goes along, these desperate, larger than life, and irretrievably broken characters become more and more real to her.
The reason I love this novel is that it's both very very funny (I was literal when I said I was laughing in public) and very very dark (Rae is dying and has been dying for years - she has so much loss, rage and grief bottled in her and it keeps coming out and coloring everything and she fits very well into that Gothic world because she is just as damaged and desperate as the characters.) The prose is purple when it needs to be - and it fits the narrative perfectly and the characters are somehow complex despite their very larger than life/artificial personas. I am not very far in at all, but characters like the Emer, Rae's desperate, on edge of survival maid (who 100% has a lesbian love line with Lia, the pure heroine - I love ittttttt!), Key, Rae's unhinged, amoral, murder-talented and money-oriented guard (the one spoiler I have is his actual eventual identity and EEE YES PLS) who is drawn in by her feral self, Lia the pure (or not so pure) stepsister, and Marius the Last Hope - the seeming paragon who is so utterly damaged are all so very vivid and great to read about. (Side note - I live too much in danmei land, but Marius x Eric, anyone? Yes yes men are capable of platonic deep friendships blah blah blah.)
There is apparently book 2 coming in the fall this year and I CANNOT WAITTTT!
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Only minor villains had petty flaws like being greedy. Rae gave her minion an approving glance.
"I think we will be friends."
He tilted his head, with the air of a scientist beholding a specimen. "I've never had one of those before. Might be interesting."
"High five," proposed Rae,
Key's smirk tilted smile-ward. "No idea what you're saying."
Rae's hand was already lifted. "Hit my hand."
"How hard?" Key asked obligingly. "Should I break it?"
Rae stared back. "Do not! Tap my palm with your palm. Gently! Gently!"
Key frowned as though gentleness required ferocious concentration.
Next up in book posts: Washington's Lady by Nancy Moser, because the thought of the Father of the Country as a romance novel hero is giving me the best kind of fits and shortcircuits my brain tho not in the way the author intended.
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fatalism-and-villainy · 7 months ago
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This is a bigger problem in the fanfic realm as well, because I have recently frequently been running into the problem of being drawn in by shippy fanfics that involve things like captivity, enslavement, and other scenarios that inherently constitute reduced autonomy and thus dubious (at best) consent, but actively refuse to engage with those implications.
And it's frustrating, because these are scenarios that I find compelling, and that have the potential for very rich emotional work. I like the juxtaposition of physical pleasure or emotional fulfillment with feelings of fear and violation, and the shame and self-blame that those feelings bring about. And I like digging into an experience of love and desire that is frighteningly selfish in its negligence towards the personhood of its object.
But I see so many of these fics that are explicitly framed as seeking to avoid these story elements - they'll have an author's note or something at the beginning with something like "I know this is problematic, but I've tried to mitigate the dubcon elements as much as I can!" And I find this... deeply frustrating! Because it's seeking to ameliorate the very dynamics that make this sort of story interesting to me!
And by the refusal to engage with the inherently nonconsensual aspects of these premises, I'm not necessarily referring to fantasy romance plot scenarios in which the characters overcome the violence of their initial dynamic to live happily ever after in a more egalitarian relationship. I can understand that these plots are living inside a sort of non-diegetic BDSM fantasy bubble, and they are still engaging with and deriving their initial eroticism and intimacy from violence implicit in their premises, while using the fantasy aspect to mitigate the actual "realistic" consequences of that violence. (I read some danmei novels that did this in ways I found really enjoyable; I think Hannigram also arguably fits into this mold in certain ways, especially considering that it is a fantasy about the parts of abuse that can feel intensely thrilling and that can make you feel recognized and known in ways no one else can.) What I'm referring to is, well, a refusal to engage at all with that violence and violation; an implementation of these premises that feels like just another pretext for introducing the characters and getting them into a relationship, without attentiveness to the implications of the specific pretext in play.
And there's something worth probing at with these kinds of authors' notes in the sense that... there's a lot of concern in fandom nowadays about "romanticizing" rape and abuse, and the seeming necessity of portraying perfect negotiation and consent in fanfic. And yet these sorts of paratextual framings seem to me to be dangerously mistaken about what consent even is - to be conceiving of it as a magic script with no interpersonal or situational antecedents, one that intrinsically smooths over systemic power differentials or lack of personal trust.
I wonder also if that's actually related to the simplistic approach to textual criticism that I sometimes call "checklist criticism" - the idea that a text can be deemed harmful or not, problematic or not, -ist or not, simply by going through a list of "is x present? check yes or no" bullet points, rather than taking a more holistic approach to the relationship between textual production and broader systems of power, being attentive to the specific premises and genre/stylistic aims of a text, etc. Possibly that's too much of a reach for what is ultimately a complaint about the difficulty of finding really juicy darkfic, but it's worth considering.
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renshengs · 5 months ago
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hmm i do think that danmei and dangai (censored danmei cdrama adaptations) being many non-chinese fandom people's first impression of chinese media has given them some misconceptions about mainstream chinese media, and it shows in a way that i find very frustrating when seeing discussions about cdramas on here. dangai dramas aside, even if government censorship didn't exist, the chances of your favorite cdrama gay ship becoming canon is about as high as the chances of any of those iconic homoerotic male friendships in a western TV show becoming canon. which is to say: extremely low.
what i think is that internationally huge danmei fandoms like mdzs and tgcf and drama adaptations like cql and shl have really fucked with people's conceptualization of danmei, in that they're using it as this reference point when analyzing relationships in all other forms of cn media, including cdramas and chinese games, which then manifests into people making very bold, very dubious claims about "queercoding" because 2 characters from a random cdrama reminds them of the one or two danmeis they'd encountered that shaped their entire perception of chinese media. basically it's this meme:
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many people here need to understand that cdramas and chinese films are obviously mainstream forms of fictional media in china, just like how the mcu or the doctor who franchise is mainstream in the US and UK, or like shonen is mainstream in japan. not to burst your bubble of happy ignorance, but homoromantic relationships such as qingming/boya from the ying yang master are—for lack of a better term—fujobait. they are fujobait. bromances, because those sell well and everyone knows it. popular ships like bakudeku were not actually made canon in mha because shonen is mainstream, and in most industries geared toward maximizing capital, having full-on gay people front and center is considered a monetarily risky move. which sucks, of course, but china is absolutely no different. i promise you that if the govt removed their censorship laws for TV broadcasts, your favorite gay ship from mysterious lotus casebook or the blood of youth or fangs of fortune still wouldn't be canon. they might be allowed a bit more intimacy due to the lack of restrictive filtering, but they are not going to be sucking face for the same reason that gojo and geto from jjk didn't suck face.
danmei is still widely considered niche and risky in china, and if you haven't seen the recent news, authors are still getting arrested for writing it. assuming that chinese fiction, mainstream chinese fiction in particular, operate like dangais where the two guys with the most gay tension would be made explicitly canon were the censors to be lifted, is frankly pretty ridiculous. dangai dramas are adapted from danmeis, which are stories centered on a gay romance and narratively depend on the two guys falling in love. non-dangai dramas are very much... not that, hence why people shouldn't watch them expecting a censored danmei and then forcing assumptions of "my ship would be canon if only it weren't for censorship" on them.
it's very clear when someone who knows absolutely nothing about the actual situation with danmei and queer existence and mainstream TV censorship in china is trying to push their, if i put it crudely, "boss baby meme" perspective onto cmedia. fandom is all about poking at interactions between your favorite characters and giggling and speculating, but i think lots of fandom people (many of them safe in the pockets of their more progressive areas) view govt censorship as this big abstract dam that, if broken, would result in the canonization of all their favorite ships, which is not only an incredibly naive belief but also one that shows how much they view TV censorship as more of a personal inconvenience that's preventing their favorite ships from kissing on screen instead of the looming, deep-rooted issue depriving mainland chinese people of creative freedom it actually is. with cmedia fandoms there's a specific widely popularized "they're so gay omg how did censorship not notice" gag when there's any perceived homoromantic undertones in a story that's both rather insensitive and also ignorant, and many dangai and cdrama fandoms in particular (donghua fans too, link click shippers i'm looking directly at you) could really use some more education and sensitivity regarding this.
i've been in danmei & cdrama fandom spaces for years and post-pandemic this kind of nonsense has definitely gotten worse, especially when you compare shipping discussions here to shipping discussions in cn fandoms. here every 2 seconds someone makes an off-color censorship joke about tgcf donghua and over on douyin they are straight up commenting under the nezha sequel announcement post if there's going to be an oubing kissing scene. granted i obviously cannot see or know everything going on in cn fandom spaces because they are incomprehensibly enormous, but in all the spaces i've been in i've never seen a single censorship joke from anyone. why do people here absolutely insist on making them?
anyway. fandom be normal about chinese media challenge!
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mi-tu-o-moli-poka · 3 months ago
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Sorry for late response lol I was going to say things and then got my stupid ass distracted anyway REAL REAL REAL that's so deeply the thing like . The thing in my head is the sexual context is not in fact the context of their legitimate dynamic no matter what they most likely claim to believe – as much as I do think they're on "it's normal for sworn brothers" they also know damn well what kind of attitudes the jianghu as written in MDZS holds. Nobody knows what they're doing behind closed doors and bc that exists in that other context the dynamic prescribed by their legitimate relationship at least presumably can be allowed to lessen its influence
But lessen does not mean go away and the thing is ! As implied/stated with ur addition I think the thing w/ JGY is he would see that as a ~confirmation/enforcement of his position and the notion of it being a sexual dynamic throws up even more flags abt it see again JGY absolutely does know 1) how fragile his position is in general and 2) how the MDZS jianghu regards gay people. If he and LXC are going to have a dynamic extraneous to the one they socially present then he's not going to let it be one where he's in a position that leaves him vulnerable to ~being degendered/classed as gender subaltern? I could see him as ~being resigned to it as u imply (something something Danmei Jigsaw) but honestly in my head he's not even doing that . Type of guy to see what he can get away with and somehow impossibly he can get away with this
So based and correct also tht LXC is into CNC from the opposite direction as LWJ is I do believe this.
Everybody is allowed to be wrong on the Internet but the thing is that everybody is also allowed to complain about others being wrong on the internet. But just like MXTX said the only way to bring about a better world is to be able to choose one another... Take my hand. We can fix the state of Xiyao sex in this fandom
Please for the love of god why does everybody think JGY is a bottom
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veliseraptor · 20 days ago
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genuine qn!! can you tell us more about mxtx and her preoccupations thematically and including character types and and relationship dynamics, so interesting
oh man so we'll see how long it takes me to answer this ask because I could probably write a whole goddamn essay for this. with footnotes and everything. am I tempted, yes, but the last time I did that it took me like a year and a half and I'm pretty sure nobody cared
anyway, yeah! mxtx is definitely a writer where I feel like I can see the throughlines in a lot of her work pretty clearly. some of these are probably generic and I'm only somewhat equipped to recognize those (being yet a novice in the world of danmei specifically and cnovels more generally), so I can't be certain all of this is mxtx and not just the generic milieu she's working within. but I tried to parse it out based on what I've noticed.
I focused on thematics because that's what I personally find most interesting (and easiest to elaborate on, since some of the relationship dynamics are less specific to MXTX than they are romance conventions, a genre I am less familiar with).
this is necessarily an incomplete list because I haven't reread in a hot minute and also I am, again, not writing a complete essay for this (right now)
Justice/injustice. This one recurs across all three novels, both in terms of the desire for justice and the ways in which injustice is woven into the fabric of society and sometimes, it seems, almost inevitable. There's something deeply pessimistic, for instance, about the way that MDZS deals with this question, or at least a certain ambivalence, but in general I would say it's a theme of MXTX's work that people don't get what they "deserve", and what is or would be just is at best a difficult and often an unanswerable question.
Cycles of revenge/violence. Relatedly: MXTX seems to me very concerned with cycles of revenge and violence and what comes of them - namely, nothing. In SVSSS you see it with Shen Jiu and PIDW!Luo Binghe in particular, and how Shen Yuan's cutting of that violent cycle transforms not just Luo Binghe but the fate of the world as a whole. In MDZS you see it most clearly with the Nie Mingjue/Jin Guangyao/Nie Huaisang situation, which ultimately ends with nobody winning, but also in Jin Ling's explicit rejection of revenge at the end of the novel. In TGCF you can see it in Black Water Arc, where - again - nobody wins, but you can also see it with Xie Lian and Jun Wu. This further relates to:
Disinterest in/distrust of punitive impulses. This is the one I wrote a whole essay about! But in general I think that MXTX is...skeptical...of the impulse to punishment/retaliation, because of the stance she seems to take that violence only ever begets violence and never makes anything better. Again this threads back to the aforementioned "nobody gets what they deserve" thing - because if nobody gets what they deserve, who decides what anyone deserves?
Ambivalence about the "fixability" of society at large. This also kind of goes back to the first point on this list, and specifically I think is illustrated through the fact that two of three of her main pairings retreat from the world at large at the end of their stories. They aren't completely removed from society, but they are distanced from it - in both cases, I would argue, out of some disillusionment with its functioning and/or their place within it. There is a certain feeling in MXTX's work that society is, if not irreparably broken, fundamentally unjust in a way that is difficult to change. (I think TGCF is an interesting outlier in this way, actually.)
Class/status dynamics. I'm not saying that MXTX is, like, writing about class or status, but I am saying that she seems to be interested in the role that it plays in shaping/defining a character, given how often it turns up as a factor - in Shen Jiu, in Luo Binghe, in Jin Guangyao, in Wei Wuxian, in Mu Qing, in Hua Cheng, even in Xie Lian's crash from the heights of wealth to the depths of poverty.
The fickleness of the crowd. This also has to do with the importance of rumor and reputation, but what it often seems to come down to in terms of impact is how quickly people at large change their minds and bend to the beliefs of the people around them; how much attitude toward a person is informed by, and defined by, public opinion - regardless of that opinion's basis in truth. Often, explicitly, in spite of the opinion's basis in lies.
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localvillagecryptid · 22 days ago
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AU where at some point in canon, it's revealed that the System is, in fact, a person. Not just any person: a Green JJ fangirl. And not just in a "has or had a physical body" way, but like someone who died and BECAME the system or part of it. Like a weird post-death recruitment into the cosmic illuminati. Shen yuan and Shang qinghua have in fact been arguing with a sapient former human who does, in fact, have the option to be less of a dick but is actively choosing to be this way for Plot Reasons (aka shipping content + she gets a raise for each successful story made).
This is revealed when she slips up in some of her messages to them and breaks character a few times. When she tells shen yuan to "just fuck him already, dammit," accompanied by a handful of other swears, shen yuan is horrified to realize he recognizes her writing style. The system used to be another PIDW regular that cucumber did NOT get along with, because unlike his "totally legit and fair" criticism, miss danmei fan complained primarily that the story would be better if binghe (and basically the entire cast) were gay (amongst other things). Shen yuan simply HAD to take up arms against such a RIDICULOUS notion, not knowing that miss green jj had clocked him AND airplane from miles away and had sniffed out the fact that aside from PIDW being meant as a cash grab, airplane was also just a total coward who wasn't brave enough to make it a danmei the way that he'd initially intended. He was originally going to post it on the danmei site, but chickened out and made it straight instead. Hence, we got PIDW. Anyway, she and cucumber had historic arguments in the comments section, though she wasn't as prolific as shen yuan, because unlike him, she was actually employed. Also, because she knew how to work smarter, not harder, and instead was busy making gay fan art and fics of PIDW instead of just whining in the comments all day. In fact, she only ever came back now and then to get updates on the characters to supplement her fan content.
Shen yuan then realizes that the entirety of svsss is Her Fault (it isn't; half of it was a prison of shen yuan's own making), which then brings him to, "wait. Did you CHOOSE to put me here, you demon???" Because yes, he died, but he didn't ask to get isekai'd! As it turns out, she volunteered for the position of svsss system (her god complex simply couldn't resist), but shen yuan dying was just a lucky boon. When she realized he was cucumber, she thought, "well since you love binghe so much, here! GO AHEAD AND MARRY HIM" and here we are.
This leads to several fights in which sy and airplane BOTH look like they're going crazy bc they're talking to air. The "air" is, meanwhile, docking points for public image loss + "being mean to her", and dropping them in situations as punishment. There's an entire week in which shen yuan is getting hit with back-to-back wife plots because he said her old HuaMing Twitter fan art was trash, and that there was no way Hualing or Liu Mingyan were lesbians. Perhaps when they call a truce, she admits that there's a lot more that can be seen behind the scenes, such as affection meters, stats, etc etc that are invisible to sy and sqh.
However, she refuses to be helpful and divulge the information, because "it would compromise integrity/authenticity of players' actions" etc. She laughs every time shen yuan frets that luo binghe hates him, knowing damn well the affection meter has broken past the full bar. She's completely lying every time she tells them that x action will cause them to lose so many points that they'd die (because the point system is up to her, but the stakes being so high helps her own performance rating). The only actions that could do so are A) averting the abyss event, and B) telling people about the system/transmigration. Everything else is up for grabs. In fact, there could even be loopholes to those; but I like to think that since she held such a grudge against shen yuan from their internet beef, she threw all her plans out the window for a fix-it story once she saw his soul on the market.
When binghe is stuck wandering mega hell, system is playing Mario Kart and looking up which universe she wants to work on next.
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miyamiwu · 2 months ago
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To Be Hero X: Top 10 Heroes’ Chinese Voice Actors
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Info is taken from the TBHX Baidu page. For the VAs’ other roles, I’m only listing those I’m familiar with…which is limited to danmei* audio drama adaptations and very few donghua originals and danmei donghua, so uhhh sorry about that. Just check out their other roles by following the links in Baidu.
*Danmei = Chinese BL
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Top 10 Heroes
1. Wèi Chāo 魏超 as X
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Donghua roles:
Qian Jin in Link Click Season 2
Qing Xiong in Tianbao Fuyao Lu
Shi Xuejin in Da Wang Rao Ming (Spare Me, Great Lord!)
Audio drama roles:
Lan Wangji in Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Zhao Haochang in Silent Reading
Qi Fengge in Thousand Autumns
Li Feng in Sha Po Lang
My man is in a lot of big name danmei omg
2. Liú Xiàoyú 刘校妤 as Queen
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Other animation roles:
young!Du Fu in 30,000 Miles from Chang’an (this is a big movie!)
(Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with her many other animation roles…)
Some audio drama roles:
Empress Ming Rui in Emblem of the Phoenix
Sima E in Offering Salted Fish To Master (not danmei)
Chu Huang in Black Moonlight Holds the BE Script (not danmei)
(I actually don’t know any of these works. I just didn’t want to leave Queen’s section empty…)
3. Chén Zhāng Tàikāng 陈张太康 as Liang Long (Dragon Boy)
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Audio drama roles:
Hua Cheng from Heaven Official’s Blessing (omg 👀)
Li Heng in Tianbao Fuyao Lu Season 1
Cheng Yixie in Kaleidoscope of Death
The Male System in Global University Entrance Examination
Zong Jiu in Thriller Trainee (OMGGG 👀👀👀)
Lin Si in Cat’s Rose
Lin Qingyu in Married Thrice to Salted Fish
Su Cheng in Welcome to the Nightmare Live
Xie Qibao in The Daily Life of Being the Campus Idol’s Fake Boyfriend
....and a lot more danmei. I thought X being in many big-name danmei AD was impressive enough, but holy shit LL’s VA is in even more of them.
4. Cháng Wéntāo 常文涛 as Mo Sha (Ghostblade)
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Donghua roles:
Liu Fei in Tianbao Fuyao Lu
Audio drama roles:
Zheng Shu in Cat’s Rose
Xiao Cheng in Married Thrice to Salted Fish Season 2
Xi Chengyun in A Contractual Marriage with the Best Leading Actor
Ruan Tanzhu in Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know (OMGGG 👀)
Sun Heguang in Transmigrating Into The Heartthrob’s Cannon Fodder Childhood Friend
蛇女目 (idk how to write this as a name) in The Fallen Merman
Meng-xiansheng (Mr. Dream) in The #1 Pretty Boy of the Immortal Path
Multiple side character roles in Kaleidoscope of Death (too lazy to list them all here)
5. Jǐn Lǐ as Xiao Qiang (Little Johnny)
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VA for Da Qiang (Big Johnny) hasn't been announced yet
Other animation roles:
Li Tianchen in Link Click Season 2
Nezha in the Legend of Luo Xiaohei fan animated manhua
Audio drama roles:
Kong Hongjun in Tianbao Fuyao Lu
Jiang Fang in Forces of Temptation
Jiang Xinghong and Feng Yongle in Kaleidoscope of Death
Daoist A (extra) in The Husky and His White Cat Shizun
Ling Ke in The Daily Life of Being the Campus Idol’s Fake Boyfriend
Mo Qiu in Flying Gulls Never Land (HOLY SHIT THIS IS A GOOD ONE)
young!Guan Ye in Turing’s Code
Wu Zu in Pixiu Restaurant, No Way Out
young!Gu Jianshen in Want to Ascend? Then Fall in Love
Shi An in After the Abyss Dragon Awakens
Xiao Jie in Married Thrice to Salted Fish
More of his roles can be found here. (The wrong page is linked in the TBHX Baidu page)
6. Qián Chēn 钱琛 as Loli
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Other animation roles:
Yu Xia in Link Click
Su Shu in Those Years I Opened a Zoo
Young! Jin Ling, Wen Yuan, Xue Yang, and Qin Su (she’s voicing all the kids lmao) in Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Audio drama roles:
Zhang Ting and Guo Fei in Silent Reading
Luo Sixue in The Pheromones Say We Have No Chance
Chen Xi in Hard to Please (aka First Frost)
The blonde maiden in Forces of Temptation
young!Jiang Songyi in When Two Alphas Meet, One’s an Omega
Several side characters in After Getting A Job in the Nether World, I Became Famous (this is a good novel btw, you guys should check it out)
Apparently, she’s also in Summit Dueling (aka Beloved Enemy), but it didn’t list what role she played...
7. Zhào Shuǎng 赵爽 as Lucky Cyan
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Other animation roles:
Xu Shanshan in Link Click
Lu Xiaoyu in Da Wang Rao Ming (ohh that’s cute)
The female App voice in Those Years I Opened a Zoo (So that was her, lmaaao)
Zhao Nishang in No Doubt in Us Season 2
Xiaoyao Xinghe in My Dashixiong is a Villain/My Dashixiong has a Hole in His Brain (aka What’s Wrong with my Big Brother?)
Audio drama roles:
young!Chang Geng and young!Gu Yun in Sha Po Lang (lmaaao the main characters have the same voices as kids)
Chen Chen in Silent Reading
Lily in Little Mushroom
Yao Yao in When Two Alphas Meet, One’s an Omega
Chen Jiao in After Getting A Job in the Nether World, I Became Famous
Liu Jiayi in I Became a God Horror Game (HOLY SHIT, THIS IS MY FAVORITE NOVEL!!!! And she plays the Liu Jiayi??? Oh my lord)
8. Zhāng Fúzhēng 张福正 as Ahu
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Other animation roles:
Chen Xiao in Link Click
A’Tong and Xue Yang in Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Shao Wuxing in Those Years I Opened a Zoo
Yang Jian in The Parting of the Orchid and Cang (aka The Farewell of Changlan, Love Between Fairy and Devil) (not danmei)
Audio drama roles:
Several side characters in Sha Po Lang
Xiao Haiyang in Silent Reading
Yu Tang in Your Majesty, Stop Making Trouble (listed as Stop Bothering Me, Emperor in NovelUpdates but I think that’s a mistranslation)
Zhang Guanyao in Breaking Through the Clouds
Pro 4.0 in Turing’s Code (Pro is short for Prometheus and is an AI designed by the side characters. Interesting that Ahu’s VA has done a tech voice..)
Bai Chunian in The Fallen Merman
Lu Changting in Licking Honey off a Knife Edge
Lin Xinlan in Mist
Lu Yizhan in I Became a God in a Horror Game (another GHG character!!!)
Xiao Jue in Rebirth of the Female General (aka Rebirth of the Star General, Legend of the Female General) (not danmei, but this is a popular baihe (Chinese GL))
9. Yáng Kǎiqí 杨凯祺 as Hun Dian (aka E-Soul)
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(Not familiar with any of his donghua roles, so I’m not listing them here)
Audio drama roles:
General Xiao Cai and Chen Feiyun in Sha Po Lang
A Researcher in Little Mushroom
Xiao Wu in Silent Reading
Cheng Da Lang in Liu Yao: The Revitalization of Fuyao Sect
Wang Lili in After Getting A Job in the Nether World, I Became Famous
Wen Fei in Want to Ascend? Then Fall in Love
Chen Anzhi in After the Global Evolution, I Stand at the Top of the Food Chain
Fang Xue in Pheromones Say You’re Not Innocent
Zhang Shao in Flying Ashes
Jiang Yan in The True Scandal
10. Gǔ Jiāngshān 谷江山 as Nice and Lin Ling
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Other animation roles:
Jin Zixuan in Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation (OMG 👀)
Jiang Yuanzheng in No Doubt in Us
Liu Xuanyu in Da Wang Rao Ming
Xiao Nanzhu in Chinese Almanac Master
Audio drama roles:
Yuan Yang in Summit Dueling, aka Beloved Enemy (HE PLAYS THE SCUMMY MALE LEAD LMAAAO 😂)
Mo Ran in The Husky and His White Cat Shizun (HELLO??? ANOTHER SCUM GONG FOR MR. “NICE” GUY??? AGSDJHFGSDJHGFJ)
Zhang Donglai in Silent Reading
Josh (aka Josie) in Little Mushroom
Li Yun in Liu Yao: The Revitalization of Fuyao Sect
Lao Bai (is this the White Impermanence? I’ve forgotten…) in After Getting A Job in the Nether World, I Became Famous
Fang Xiaojie in Old Fogey Goes Down The Mountain
Pei Qing in There Is Something Wrong with My Capture Target
Eris (厄里斯) in The Fallen Merman
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There are many roles I didn’t include and some I wished I had but was too lazy to go back and add them. I think there were more of them in Chinese Almanac Master, True Scandal, and The Fallen Merman, but I just missed it...
But yeah guys, it’s not just the JP cast. All the Chinese VAs are “stacked” as well. They’ve been in lots of big name projects.
If there are any errors in this post, just tell me in the notes or send me an ask. I went through each VA very quickly coz I wanted to get this done in under an hour so I can get back to my readings for class lol
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allpiesforourown · 22 days ago
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Okay, I have some comments (agreement) on three of your posts, so I'll just put them in one ask, lol.
First of all, you are SO RIGHT about toxic yuri. Oh my God. I'm a bi woman and I'm usually more attracted to mlm works like danmei, and a lot of yuri just doesn't do it for me, so I'm just constantly wondering if I've got, like, internalized misogyny? What's the deal here? But then there's the occasional yuri like Madoka and I go absolutely fucking feral and make it my whole personality for months. Like, yes, give me all of the toxic yuri, all of the doomed yuri, all of the girls and women being obsessive and flawed. That's what I like about danmei, really, the obsession and the character flaws and the angsty yearning. But women are never allowed to go crazy or even be a little flawed like that, not even in fiction. Often, it's because creators and audiences alike judge female characters harsher (a reflection of real life, obviously) and so they have to make the female characters "perfect" or they won't be liked. But their being perfect is exactly what I dislike, because it's not realistic, and it's not interesting! So, yeah, absolutely, that's why toxic yuri is so much more appealing, especially compared to a lot of others.
Second of all, you're also so right about Yue Qingyuan. When I first started SVSSS, I thought, "Oh, so he kinda sucks," 'cause he clearly knew about Binghe's abuse but only gave mild advice to SQQ to maybe treat him a little less harshly. But then, he kinda does seem like a really good guy later, and especially with the realization of his tragic background, it's easy to forgive him. But so often the fandom reduces him to lovable idiot who's never done anything wrong and like. He was totally fine with Shen Jiu abusing a child. It's not like he was unaware of it, and while he's not malicious, he was willing to turn a blind eye to it. We obviously know the reason why later, but even so. I do love him, though, but I feel like sometimes the fandom whitewashes some of the characters too much. Like, Shen Jiu had a tragic backstory, but that only explains his actions, it doesn't excuse them. Of course you can love him anyway, but I think if you're whitewashing his character into something he's not, then you don't really love the character, or else you'd love him the way he actually is. And Shen Jiu's abuse of Binghe is very important to, like, everything, because the cycle of abuse is such a central theme. Shen Jiu and his own victim, Bingge, demonstrate how abuse can turn victims into abusers and continue the cycle. Shizun and Binghe (Bingmei) demonstrate how the cycle can be stopped.
Finally, that post you reblogged about social media, and your tags about how you open TikTok, block 50 people, and then leave is sooo true. The danmei fandom, especially artists, are, at least to my knowledge, a lot more active on Twitter than Tumblr, so I go on Twitter to check when I'm bored, and. I open it, I block 50 people while getting mad just the way they want me to, and then I close it. Then I open it again later! I guess I'm a glutton for punishment because seriously. I need to stop.
Anyway, thanks! Keep on fighting the good fight (shizunfucking)!
1. YEAH. Like so many yuri stories are just "they're cutely blushing before mustering up the courage to hold hands" and its just boring. Are they allowed to show any emotion other than uwu puppy love I'm a grown ass woman
2. Yue Qingyuan's cycle of abuse being ignored is so sad like yes he started out as a slave. But he is now the leader of one of the most powerful sects in the cultivation world, and he uses his authority to enable and protect abusers. Why erase such a big part of his story
3. TWITTER IS DEADDD its all blue checkmark engagement baiting with racism and even within the danmei community the people on Twitter will jump anyone who has an opinion they don't like it's so evil there
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bengiyo · 6 months ago
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BL 2024 Review
It’s been another year of BL. I wrote a review of 2023 and 2022, and I find myself struggling to write about this year. I feel like I had some incredible projects that I connected with this year, but I also found myself far more bored and frustrated with certain things than I was expecting. The most disheartening thing this year for me was the drop off in the number of quality Korean productions, and the end of my patience with Thai BL squandering viewer time and attention. Let’s get into some of the big ideas.
Japan is Still Here
Last year I commented that a third of all Japanese BL I had ever watched came out in 2023. We got even more this year, and we had longer runtimes! This is good for the kind of viewer I am. I find that I enjoy Japanese shows more often than any other BL-producing country, and they held down the bulk of my watching for the year.
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This year I was blessed with two shows tackling a similar premise (actors falling for each other as they film a BL) and they were both good! I loved I Became The Main Role of a BL Drama so much, and we’re getting a sequel in 2025! I wasn’t sure if I would enjoy a moodier take on this premise when At 25:00 in Akasaka showed up, but I ended up enjoying that, too!
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I properly watched Ossan’s Love and The Novelist at the start of this year, and I’m so glad I did, because goddamn did I enjoy Ossan’s Love Returns.
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I also remain thankful for Tadaima Okaeri and Twilight Out of Focus for giving us worthwhile BL anime.
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I'm thankful for Perfect Propose for giving me a man in his mid-20s leaving his horrible job after getting fed and jerked off by an old friend.
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I'm thankful for Takara no Vidro for unpacking obsession in a relationship and solving it with healthy communication.
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Finally, I'm thankful for Love is Like a Poison for blending a legal drama with a BL so effortlessly, and making it such a fun ride. I love that Shiba Ryoma can't fight for shit and was so down bad for his man.
The Cross-Cultural Adaptations Brought Out Great Discussion
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I was glad we got Cherry Magic Thailand and My Love Mix Up Thailand this year in the order in which we got them. It was useful because they both came from GMMTV, and I had opposite reactions to both. I loved what they did with Cherry Magic, and stand by what I said on the podcast that I think it’s the best version of Cherry Magic (even if the anime is my favorite). This was useful, because I was really put off by the attempt at My Love Mix Up, and think they got a lot wrong. I’m glad the good show came first so I didn’t feel like I was being a Japanese version stan.
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Adapting from danmei, I really wanted to like My Stand In, but bounced off the show not taking the horror of Joe’s situation seriously. Moreover, I think the commerce of the BL pair required them to soften and redeem Up’s character in a way that felt disingenuous for me. I wanted that man to be unhinged and far more toxic than they portrayed him. If this is the trend, I’d rather Thai teams invested in BL pair commerce avoid toxic danmei in the future.
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In Taiwan, I was so impressed with Unknown. Despite the missteps on the sexual turn, that was one of the most engaging dramas we had within the genre this year. I was impressed at how seriously they took their family dynamics. That being said, Meet Me at the Blossom didn’t land for me. I would very much like to see a wuxia BL that hits for me without the dubious and non-consensual bits.
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Over in Japan, I don’t think I’m enjoying Our Youth that much, and I wonder about whether certain aspects of the source material didn’t translate properly with some of the changes I’ve seen mentioned by viewers. It’s been a difficult experience, because I loved the scene of Minase fleeing Hirukawa’s room, but the show has really lost its emotional core for me.
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However, I actually really enjoyed the Japanese version of Love in the Air, and think MeMindY timed this well with The Boy Next World starting right as the last episode of Love in the Air Japan finishes. It was clear to me that the Thai team was involved in the adaptation, and that the makers of the Japanese version loved LITA. I think both versions bring out something noteworthy in the characters, and I hope that the show is successful so we get more work from MeMindY as a result of the connections made here, because it’s clear that the money situation in Thailand might not be so hot right now.
Thai and Korean Money Must Be Drying Up
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We’ve been wondering when the BL peak would hit and the decline would begin, and I think we’re starting to see some of those changes. I worry about how little we got from Korea this year, despite three incredible showings from Love for Love’s Sake, Let Free the Curse of Taekwondo, and Love in the Big City. Beyond those three, I don’t really feel like anyone missed out that much on the other offerings (maybe Time of Fever, but I have qualms with that show).
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Beyond that, I remain worried about how much talent has consolidated at GMMTV. It’s a worrisome sign that they continue to gobble up all of the talent. Regardless of personal tastes for a particular brand of BGP (business gay performance), it’s pretty bad for all of us when one corporation is the only one making money on boys kissing each other (@respectthepetty).
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Despite how much Thai BL I dropped, I did genuinely enjoy the relationship and friendship dynamics of Cooking Crush, Knock Knock Boys, Love Sea, and The Trainee.
The Gay Things I Loved
Enough musing. Let’s just talk about other things that I loved. This is the section where I beg you to watch the gay things that matter to me, and not just the boys whose IG reels get reposted here.
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I absolutely loved the entire experience of the Love in the Big City book club. When @lurkingshan pitched the idea, I had no idea how many people would earnestly participate, that Anton Hur would share his time with us, or that the show would actually be so good. LITBC was so good that conservative Koreans protested its airing. I loved everything we did this year around that book and show, and wanna say thanks again to everyone who engaged with us.
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I also adored Marahuyo Project. I love that ANIMA Studios didn’t end after Like in the Movies. JP Habac came back with a banger. That show said it was LGBTQIA+ and it meant it with its whole heart. I really loved this show as a true examination of the evolving landscape of youth queerness in the modern era more than anything else I watched this year. Go watch it.
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I did not expect a show about a reformed misogynist to be my favorite show of the year, but here I am still begging all of you to watch Don’t Care For An Old Man’s Underwear! (@isaksbestpillow)This show made me cry every single week because of how good every moment hit. I have rarely experienced such an immense feeling of compassion as I received from this show.
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In 2022, we watched She Loves to Cook, and She Loves to Eat, and we wondered if NHK would come back and finish what they started, and goddamn did they deliver. I think about Nomoto and Kasuga about as much as I think about Shiro and Kenji (What Did You Eat Yesterday?) now, and if Japan doesn’t figure out a way for both of those couples to meet, I will be forever disappointed. Go watch it. (@furritsubs)
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Finally, I will be forever thinking about the confession through the wall in Let Free the Curse of Taekwondo, how they intercut the youth and adult sex, and the way Dohoe apologized to Hyeonho. Hwang Da Seul finally got all of the pieces right here. She loves to see a couple get back together after a big separation, and she succeeded here. This show earned its youth romance, and earned its reunion. She understands how important it is for gay people to stop trapping each other. We threw that cross in the trash, and cried because of Yahoo answers. We all won.
My Tastes are Changing
Last year I engaged with about 99 productions. This year it’s under 75 with 26 that I didn’t finish. I hesitate to say that the genre is getting worse, when I feel like things are where they’ve been for a long time. However, it’s clear that I’m changing and am less interested in seeing what I deem to be weak attempts at familiar storytelling tropes.
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I think what I’ve noticed the most about my tastes changing is that it’s making me write less. The fandom has contracted dramatically on Tumblr, and I find myself growing distant from the predominant reactions. With there being less people to vibe with, I’ve been reacting less in real time. Despite that, I hope to continue posting round ups with my BL blurbs and @the-conversation-pod.
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All in all, 2024 is a difficult year for me. I think I enjoyed BL less overall, but the things I did enjoy I enjoyed more than previous years. It’s a difficult space for me to navigate, because I think this is actually what I wanted. I will continue to appreciate that the BL genre enables the funding for the big gay projects that I love. So, even if I think GMMTV going literally all-in on BL is going to lead to a ton of garbage, I still remain hopeful that the homos with something interesting to say can make the projects they want.
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bookwyrm-art-stuff · 3 months ago
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Right! I'm bored!
My impression of various danmei
-I have read none of these -I try to avoid the fandom of books I haven't read so my information is minimal -I have only read MXTX
There could be spoilers below the cut? I HAVE NOT READ THE BOOKS and I will not be refraining from possible spoilers. They're under clear headings though so if you're worried you can probably avoid stuff on a book-specific basis.
-Erha
This one scares me. Not because of it being dark or painful or supremely fucked up but because it looks positively INSANE and it's longer than TGCF. I'm also not sure about the main ship from a chemistry point of view because it seems like a worse version of SVSSS in every respect but quality. Probably a better wording is more severe. I mean, it's from the equivalent of LBH's pov.
[Edit: I've started Erha. It is exactly what I thought. There is so much smut. Why won't Mo Ran let me have one peaceful chapter. It is ridiculously and unfairly good.]
[Edit 2: I've finished Erha. It's a beautiful story and it Hurt Me and I was still right about almost everything except that I doubted ranwan's chemistry, which is beautiful and perfect. Highly recommend if you can handle a lot of detailed smut and angst that tears a hole in your chest.]
-QJJ
Looks interesting! And pretty! And scares me more than Erha because I have Heard Things (they actually did that in a meeting didn't they.) Don't think I'm ever reading it.
-Thousand Autumns
I have actually started this one but I'm barely 100 pages in so I still know next to nothing. It looks interesting but I'm having trouble keeping the motivation. Some misgivings about the dynamic but hopefully it'll even out, also I've heard there's political drama (very hit or miss.)
-Peerless
Looks pretty and interesting! Is this the one with the drugs in it? I know there's a lot going on, and also that one of them is stunning (everyone is in danmei but it appears to be emphasized?) Also I think one of them is disabled maybe???
-Case File
Looks cool. I think this one's also modern/more modern than the usual settings in ancient china? That said I am scared of it! I do not particularly like smut and I have heard this is an abomination (same for QJJ)
-Golden Terrace
I've heard this one's cute. Apparently they communicate? Also there's geese? I think this one's modern too. Idk. I'd probably read this if it were available.
-Little Mushroom
Post-apocalyptic, cool worldbuilding, dynamic seems interesting and the book in general sounds very interesting and very cute. I think the MC is literally a mushroom. I'm fuzzy on any plot whatsoever, but that's good because I'm gonna read this one if I get the chance.
-DTBPF/Fish Danmei
I wanna read this one so bad. Like you don't get it. I've been told it's got the fun vibes of SVSSS, and there's no smut, and they look adorable in- without exaggeration- every single piece of art I have seen them in. MC transmigrates into a fish and then ends up with a prince that his system wants him to associate with, and then there is also mpreg. Like... apart from the mpreg, which I don't mind too much, that is my SHIT. I'm doing everything I can to get my hands on these
If you have read these books: PLEASE comment on this. I wanna know how these sound to people who have read them.
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