#tlkof theory

[sofi182]

the wicked powers theory

more specifically, the last shadowhunter theory

so, i was rereading city of bones and i stumbled upon this:

and i immediately thought “okay, this could be it”, because now they know they can pass through the warding. so maybe that possibility of blocking the entrance of the demons is something cassie will explore in tls, even more possible if we believe the title is literal (which i initially refused to believe when i first started to think about this theory, and it took me a while to sort of wrap my head around it, because being shadowhunters is who they are, you know?)

so the last shadowhunter could be referring to them getting rid of demons by blocking their entrance, and with that it is possible for them to stop being shadowhunters, because there are no more shadows to hunt. (because i’ve been seeing some people say she might kill all shadowhunters, and unless that happens in an alternate dimension, i highly doubt she would do that to end the saga, i believe it would be meaningless to do something like that)

cob also kept me mentioning shadowhunters as “a dying breed”, so it would be sort of fitting to circle it back and dwell on it for the last book

like i said, i was initially reluctant to accept this theory, but then jace says this in cob:

and i was like “shit, he’s right”. i mean, them being shadowhunters is important to me because that’s the role they play in the shadow world to me, you know? but for them, it’s a job. sure, some of them enjoy it, but maybe they could just be nephilim, just as werewolves, vampires, fey and warlocks just are. still, it was hard to totally embrace because i thought “if they don’t kill demons, then aren’t they just like mundanes?”, and i still don’t have an answer to that worry.

but the theory kept getting louder in my head because cob has constant reminders of the disadvantages of being a shadowhunter, all the ugly parts of it, how they’re in some way chained to that life of “scars and killing”.

additional note: i was telling my theory to my sister, and how i don’t want to believe they stop being shadowhunters, and she told me “it’s the end of an era, bby. if they stop being shadowhunters it would tie the books up perfectly. the era (saga) ends when they stop being shadowhunters”. and i asked her what the characters were supposed to do if that happened, and she said “there are always more and better things to do, and there are definitely better things than killing demons” and it helped me sort of accept and embrace this theory even more, but i did cry when she told me that, and she just laughed at me :)

[wikitpowers]

SENDING A BIG (HUGE, GINORMOUS) THANK YOU TO ALL THE TSC ARTISTS WHO DREW EVIL!TY FROM THE EXCERPT, JUST KNOW THAT ILY ALL AND I THANK U FOR UR SERVICES 🫡🫶🏻

[witchlingcirce]

OKAY!! This dream was so cool and I kinda wanna share my absolute nonsense theory!!

I definitely think this dream has something to do with Lucifer being the eventual villain and the impacts it’ll have on the shadowhunter world. HOWEVER: this leads the question: how? And why is Kit saying it’s Ty fault.

A really old shadowhunter theory is that Livvy is the one who will get possessed by Lucifer and honestly I’ve always supported that and I think it’s plausible. Out of any character, Livvy is probably the easiest to posses.

Okay I think possess might not be the right word since she’s a ghost? But I think Lucifer being able to control Livvy would be a really interesting concept and I think it could be likely, throughout GOTSM we see that Livvy has a very increasing fragile mind set, we even see her talk about possibly possessing Mina! Even so, we know that Livvy DOES in fact have a Ty to the living world as well (Ty, since he messed the spell up). Thisss would 100% let Lucifer do stuff behind the scenes and easily mess with the TWP cast.

This also leads back to Kit saying it’s “his fault” in the dream like sequence, as it quite literally is Ty’s fault if he does posses Livvy (since ya know he brought her back).

I have a lot of other theory’s as well, since we know that Livvy’s ritual failed, maybe Ty accidentally opened some kind of pathway into the human world?? (This also kinda links back to the fact that the pathway COULD be Livvy…)

[meerabanerjee]

Ok so first non art related post so kinda nervous but idk if anyone will see it bc my posts that aren't art tend to get nerfed

But basically since the TWP era low-key started I wanted to share a theory that's been eating at me since I read TDA and it's that Thule Kit is dead.

Idk if this has been shared before but I know that it's a popular theory that he's alive and in faerie and I'm not like opposed to that or anything it's just I think he may be dead?

I think this mostly based off of overthinking and like a gut feeling, I ahem…don't have any evidence… 😶 I just wanted to say it to get it out there otherwise I'm gonna go insane only ranting about this to my friend

I like the idea that kit and ty are together in (mostly every universe) despite the tragedy they may not be, but let a girl cope.

But also I think my theory may follow the same vein as Livvy and Ty’s situation, in that while Kit may be dead I think Rosemary is fully alive. Around the time when Thule starts to diverge from canon, Kit is around 10 yrs old and we know that Rosemary dies around Kit being discovered so when he's 15, so in Thule I think with the world basically ending she would have thought “oh fuck it” and just went to go get him. However, it is basically the apocalypse and like we see with Livvy’s situation, keeping people alive is pretty difficult so I think Rosemary ends up losing him anyways. Maybe he and Ty even die around the same time. Very much the whole one of them is alive in a universe but never both. Also with the whole wild hunt actively hunting down Rosemary thing, I think with the world basically ending she wasn't at the top of their bucket list especially with magic being leached from the world, maybe they thought it neutralized her as a threat or they thought she died with all the chaos, but also the faerie realm is closed so I don't think they could've actively hunted her even if they wanted so she's safe(?) from that whole debacle. Kit certainly wasn't an issue for them because they didn't know he existed at that time.

Basically my whole theory revolves around the tragedy of Rosemary never getting extended time with her son who she loves so intensely and I love tragic family dynamics.

Maybe Thule Rosemary and regular Kit meet? Maybe they don't, idk 🤔

[kitty-gray]

Anyone else noticed how Livvy wasn't mentioned?

[dru-and-ash]

So I finally found out what the poppy flower Ash gave Dru really was.

A token of safe passage to faerie as described in Codex is;

A faerie can be convinced (or bargained with) to give a human a token of safe passage usually something like a leaf or a flower. And a faerie who voluntarily brings a specific human to the revels can offer his protection and guarantee the humans ability to leave.

Second sentence is not necessarily about the token but I found it relatable since Cassie previously shared this image from Faerie previously for Halloween 2021;

They seem to be in a relatively lifeless area probably in Wild Fae but her dress suggests they could be going somewhere, I think in this case a revel to find someone or do something to help rescue Jaime?! Also if tokens are mostly used to return home after revels maybe just maybe token was the reason Dru forgot he met Ash in Chapter 1 and not some other crazy magic coz humans forget fae revels after returning in most cases (I am ignoring Dru’s memory issues with Ash and closing my eyes and ears to sense with this bit of info I made up about tokens lalalalala)

This is as far as my theorizing goes for today :)

Date posted: 02/08/2024

[helenofblackthorns]

this is your invitation to talk about all your two theories :))) thoughts on janus? the role of the princes of hell? pleaseeee feed me

thank you for this opportunity anon, as it turns out I have far more to say on this than I thought (buckle up for a massive amount of yapping)

firstly, Janus. He's an interesting character given all we know about him, but he also feels very straightforward. At this point he is being presented as an antagonist, a very central one at that, but in the scheme of things he seems very minor. He is nowhere near the same level of threat as the other antagonistic forces that we know await us in TWP, which brings his role in things into question. Normally, a tsc antagonist has some connection to the main character(s) and there is a specific reason why they become entangled (eg. Valentine is Clary's father, Mortmain created Tessa, Malcolm needed the Blackthorns to raise Annabel etc etc). Janus as a villain however has no obvious connection to any of the twp mains, and it's the total opposite when it comes to Ash despite the fact his motivations are known. He is focused around Clary, Jace, and the other tmi mains and given what we know its hard to see why he would come into conflict with Kit, Dru or Ty. There is the parallels between him and Livvy, but this doesn't seem antagonistic to me, he just represents a possible future for her (as Magnus said in gotsm, if she does not do great things, she will do terrible things).

All this is to say I think Janus is a massive red herring and not the person we should be worrying about. I think his relevance as a antagonist is going to come from his alliance to the Seelie Queen, who's motivations we know nothing about. She has been entangling herself in matters ever since she requested their audience in City of Ashes and we do not know why. It's especially obvious she's up to something when you compare her relevance in the modern timeline to the historical one, where I don't think she mentioned at all. Some of her actions are also suspicious, such as how she went out of her way to ensure Meliorn was the faerie representative. It's a plot point that gets resolved with the reveal she's working with Sebastian, but Sebastian was dead when she did it and I doubt even she would have known Lilith was going to raise him from the dead. This implies she had different plans that she then abandoned to aid Sebastian, because he could give her something she wanted; Ash. Ash clearly holds more significance to her than simply being her child as the Seelie Queen has only ever had two children, Auraline and Ash, and they were born over 200 years apart. There is clearly intention behind this, there is something that both the Unseelie King and Sebastian have in common that the Seelie Queen wants her children to have. What her plans are, we probably won't know until twp, although there may be hints in the Better in Black short story.

Like the Seelie Queen, the Princes of Hell are also likely up to something big behind the scenes. The last time we've seen from any of them was in 2010 with tlbotw; they're entirely absent from tda. This is strange as it makes tda the only series where they do not make an appearance or play a role in the story (side note I do include Lilith as a Prince of Hell even though she's technically not). Which is extremely suspicious and it's very likely that not the case, and that it'll be revealed that they have been influencing things in twp. Thule especially is something I think they're involved in, for a number of reasons. We're told the thing that altered the timeline was a powerful demon giving Lilith the strength to kill Clary, and CC said on tumblr the demon is one who is associated with Lilith in mythology. At the time (2018) CC was very mysterious, but we know enough about the PoH now to make a very educated guess that it was Sammael. Also, it's always struck me as odd that there was such a massive passing of time between Annabel & Ash coming to Thule and Emma & Julian following them. Every other time someone has gone through the portal, time has passed more or less the same and if there was discrepancy it's very minor, nowhere near the years that Ash was in Thule for. I would not be surprised if someone (Belphegor?) manipulated the portal to ensure Ash was in Thule for a certain amount of time before Emma and Julian could interfere with anything. Why the PoH would want any of this I have no idea, except poor Ash is seemingly a pawn in their plans (again) (free him for all these evil plans hasn't he been through enough?)

There is also Lucifer, who is by far the most mysterious tsc character and we know next to nothing about him. However, in the PoH art series CJ did, it does say on Belial's page that a) he claims to have convinced Lucifer to rebel and b) he is sometimes called the "father of Lucifer." A lot of the information in these arts come from preexisting Jewish & Christian mythology and can be easily googled, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Either it's more obscure or CC made it up herself which is slightly terrifying because what does that mean. is Nate losing the title of Tessa's worst brother 137 years after his death?? ig we'll find out in 2026

[arcs-01]

I just dieing of the thought of... How was this scene in TLKOF ?? What Kit was thinking... Seeing Ty... Are they share a same blanket?? What was actually happening in this scene??

[theamazingwhizzo]

Why is no one talking about Kit's blush????

[jeans-marrow]

Still thinking "the last king of faerie" refers to Thule but I've seen so many other theories and no one else agrees and I feel like I might be going insane. Like I'm so sure about this yet nobody believes me so maybe I made that shit up and it's not really it.

[theamazingwhizzo]

First of all:

WHAT DO YOU MEAN TY HAVE THE LOVE RUNE ON HIS NECK??????? Why is no one talking about this??

WHAT DO YOU MEAN KIT AND TY HAVE ALL THE COLOURS OF THE RAIBOW FLAG EXCEPT GREEN????

What do you mean Kit is taller??

What do you mean they are looking at each other like THAT in the first book??

What do you mean Kit wears his jean jacket and torn jeans and pink shirt, and Herondale ring?? (I think it's not on purpose, I men his jacket looks also torn and damage, and Ty's shirt is torn, so I think they were both on some type of fight and the cloth got damage)

What do you mean Ty is using a lgbt flag as a blanket??? (I don't think in the actual scene there's the lgbt flag, it's probably a blancket and cc has changed in the art for the flag to celebrate pride month)

And wearing the Blackthorn and the Herondale necklace??

What do you mean Ty is injured?

What do you mean Kit has the courage and abundace runes?

What do you men????

Happy Kitty Pride ;)

[wikitpowers]

cassie revealing that she will be posting kitty content on valentine’s day got me crazy like what is she gonna post?!?? like a snippet??? or the full bed art??? GOD WHAT IF IT’S ANOTHER COMIC I WOULD PASS OUT ON THE SPOT

i also think she will reveal another couple that will be featured in better in black bc you know day of love and all!!!

ALSO TLKOF RELEASE DATE???? (i’m being delulu)

[witchlingcirce]

I think the fate of Livvy in the wicked powers is something I’m genuinely really interested in.

We know from Magnus that Ty resurrection will have some sort of consequences, and I’m so curious about that.

I do think my leading theory is that her ghost will become corrupted. Either that because of the consequences of the resurrection, or because maybe another demon is trying to possess Livvy. I think whatever happens to Livvy’s ghost will directly affect Ty (if I remember right there spirits are heavily intertwined) and I think this would prompt Ty into to finally letting her go and letting Livvy rest (this will be such a sad scene)

Of course another possibility is actual proper resurrection. I’ll be honest this is kind of what I want to happen, objectively it’s almost stupid but yk… wishful thinking? 😿

I think for her resurrection to play out, someone else would have to die. A theory I saw once is that maybe Thule!Livvy dies and our Livvy could posses her body and come back. This theory reminds me of that moment in GOTSM where Livvy thinks about being re-incarnated as Mina. So while I do think it’s a possibility, I’m pretty sure Thule!Livvy is wayyyy too old for our Livvy.

Either way, I’m definitely excited to see how her character plays out. Out of any of the characters, she’s definitely the one Cassie is mentioning least, so I think she has something good cooking.

[balladofbells]

Ash is Dru’s True North

A wicked powers theory

“Dru sighed and looked at the inside of her wrist, where she'd applied a True North rune earlier that evening. In the late afternoon, really. Hours ago.”

first chapter of tlkof

A True North rune is a tracking rune, for a person whose whereabouts are unknown. But I think Cassie did a play on this.

In a lot of media (shadow and bone for example), true north is seen as home. Its where you feel save and loved because It’s a person’s orientating point— an internal compass that’s representing who you are at your deepest level.

Ash, tlkof

So you’re telling me Dru just happens to teleport into a unknown wild fae outpost and Ash is coincidentally RIGHT THERE? While she has a rune that’s named after a metaphor for someone’s true love?

Dru and Ash are each other’s purposes I CANNOT-

[kitty-gray]

THE WICKED POWERS SPOILERS (Ch 2 extract)

The options are:

Jem is right and there's nothing to worry about (Cassandra. Cassandra, look me in the eyes and tell me there's nothing to worry about. Cassandra)

Ty is being possessed (I have a case for both Belial (actual case) and Lucifer (vibes))

Thule!Ty (which... Idk)

Actual Ty ("the man who had caused all this" could mean a domino effect between raising Livvy and giving a doorway to the princes of hell to take earth. Which, yk, bad. But also there could be something More... Like. Ty's character development has to be towards letting Livvy go but to get to that point, our boy needs to hit rock bottom (writers rules idk). What's a better way to do that than to make some sort of deal with the PH that ends up fucking everything up (I'm not that sure about this point... But yk, Cassandra loves driving us to the thin line of unwellness and insanity so))

I refuse to believe Ty could ever become a sanguinary murderer that causes the end of the world on purpose (I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm sweating cold just writing this. I feel like I'm tempting the Fates or smth.)

[the-rebels-and-the-saints]

Throwing up, weeping, and dying on the inside, but NoT wItHoUt A tHeOrY.

Now, what I'm thinking is (because of the very fact that I LOVE angst and pain) is that something is going wrong with Ty because of Livvy's disappearance (convince me otherwise). Ty may be growing weaker, or is suffering mentally because of it, and Kit, being a Herondale, is about to go out, get some gear, and do something stupid and life-threatening to fix it. Because I'm guessing this is at a point in TLKOF where the duo have some clue as to where Livvy might be, but they're not sure, and Ty, of course, wants to be sure, so Kit is going out, acting on impulse, and doing this himself. He probably expects to be back by morning, but leaves a soul-crushing note, just in case.

So this is a scene, presumably after the first KitTy kiss, where Kit is leaving Ty quietly to do something which will lead him to almost dying when Ty eventually finds him, and that is where we get this:

"It's a bit ironic, isn't it?"

"What do you mean?"

"All that effort to convince you that I wasn't in love with you, and here I am, dying in your arms."

Prepare to jump off some very tall somethings.