#tpot theory

[corvesha]

(cross posting from twitter)

do you guys think algebraliens are social creatures that need to be around other algebraliens to keep their mentality in check and if they don't they become less sociable and more crazier/depressive?

Minor examples that I've noticed:

[thelegend2t]

BFDI Theory: The Unluckiest Number

Or story starts the video "X Finds Out His Value" at 3:27

Four and X have just figured out that X's value is 7, leading them and Seven to have a little dance party sort of thing. But after X proudly proclaims his value, 7, Four adds that "It's lucky too!"

And we get some less than happy faces from the peanut gallery. One and Three standing beside each other to form the infamous unlucky number 13. In fact, 13 is kind of an interesting number when it comes to Algebraliens.

This is the BFDI Wiki's list of every Algebralien (That is a rational number), notice anything? That's right! 13 isn't there! And this list doesn't leave any number out if it can help it. Eleven, Twelve and Sixteen have never had any significant role in any skit or episode. Thirteen is missing from the official roster of numbers.

Also as a "Sans is a near anagram for Ness" level detail: TPOT 13 is when One herself says "Entree over. Now onto the main course." and as the line suggests, is when One picks up the pace in terms of intervening in TPOT.

I believe that the number 13 is not just unlucky in a superstitious sense, but also if any Algebralien were to become Thirteen the result would be catastrophic, bringing bad luck wherever they went. And that's exactly what One and Three did.

In the first episode of TPOT Winner asks, on the topic of prime numbers, "Are those, like, illegal where you're from?". And while they're obviously not this could be foreshadowing that there is a specific prime number that IS illegal, due to, y'know, bad-luck related catastrophe.

I don't just believe this explains why there's no Thirteen, but I also believe this is why One and Three are where they are.

In the video "Thanks for 2,000,000 Subscribers!" we get a good look at the law enforcement system on Algebralien society, mainly that there is none. There are no police, possibly no government. Any sort of jail sentence or punishment for crime is carried out by the community as a whole. We see this with Fourteens punishment, he's not arrested by police, he's apprehended by his neighbors who seem to hold no special status of any kind.

Now, if we put our heads together maybe we can think of any Algebraliens that are locked in a cell, presumably, by other Algebraliens. I think at one point both One and Three were kept in cells, but as of now only Three remains imprisoned.

Many have speculated that Three closing their own cell is telling that they wish to finish their sentence due to the guilt of their actions, and I agree, and I think those actions were them being one half of the duo known as Thirteen. (One half of 13 is 3, you heard it here first folks!.)

But One is a lot more bold. They're not content with being held down or people having more power than them. Being a part of Thirteen came with it this great power which they wish to return to. And besides, as long as someone is staffing their jail cell, that's just one more person to manipulate.

But who did she manipulate? The answer may surprise you, but it also may not, I don't know how many people actually watched the subscriber milestone videos.

In the video "Thanks for 1,000,000 subscribers!" at 7:50, we see Seven say this:

Seven considers One to be their BFF, presumably standing for "Best Friend Forever". Now, Seven as a character has been consistently portrayed as having no friends at all. In the song "Counting on Christmas" sung by the Algebraliens, Seven explicitly states that they "really, really, really want some friends".

Seven is sort of the black sheep of the community, though still, they ARE part of the community. As such, they are also part of the group that decides who is to be in jail, and who is to be free. And if all it takes is the promise of friendship then One escaping that cell was well within her range of capabilities. Who knows, maybe the friendship was in some way genuine, but the end result is the same, Seven let One free and even now sees nothing wrong with their friendship.

So that leaves us with this. One is actively trying to free Three, but Three is still patiently waiting in their cell for their lawful sentence to expire. Which... is kinda what everyone has been saying already, yeah, I'm not exactly the first to theorize that One is trying to free Three. What I am doing however, is laying out how I believe all these puzzle pieces fit together.

[goldenclover-16]

TPOT 17 SPOILERS

Ok so it's finally out and I need to word vomit about it cause this episode was PEAK

First off Pen being sad and watching Blocky's old show for comfort, at least TV is finally doing something. Pen is going through some shit losing both his best friends and seeing it expanded upon is great.

IM SORRY BASKETBALL IS JUST HERE?? SHES OKAY?? I had thought One kidnapped her too but I guess not, but none of the other eliminated contestants mention anything about One. Has Basketball NOT SAID ANYTHING TO THEM!!??!! She was one of the people to resist their the deal and knew something was up. Even if One jumbled her speech or something so nobody could understand wouldn't they at least mention something?? Either way nice to see these guys again, also theories on where the EXIT door leads, I personally agree with it being either the second hotel door or equation playground. No Gatey though so they've more then definitely been kidnapped.

Oh Bottle's hosting this episode? Cool I like her silly vibes god knows CloudYay need it right now they stressed about the elimination. But also it's kinda sad seeing other people keep hosting for Two I really enjoyed them.

Pencil's panic attack was cool to see, last she remembers it was vote to eliminate so frankly it was pretty reasonable. Donut having to calm her down and remind her it's vote to save.

Anyway eliminations and honestly I think this was best case scenario. As much as I like Pillow and YellowFace most of the team was going through more important arcs. The only person I feel could be switched in without too much changing is Winner. Also YellowFace being so panicked and not wanting to go, things were finally going really well for him with Taggy. Hopefully they will be able to keep the warehouse going without him.

This whole scene with Fanny and Tennis Ball was cool, seeing how One is actively attempting to stop word spreading. I've already seen other people decipher the board so I'm not going to put it here (I'm lazy ik and also don't care).

Damn, Two still got depression and looks like shit, they're just bed rotting. I can't personally comment on how accurate the portrayal is but from what I've heard it's pretty accurate. Give them their wife back PLEASE I NEED TO SO THEM HOST AGAIN. Also i've seen people mention how Two is slightly paler and thinner from last episode which is concerning, hopefully they'll be okay. . .

THE FOURSE RETURNS HAHA IT'S SO ANGRY I LOVE HIM

Ok onto the contests I just had to mention this first.

The eating contest was some fun comic relief while everything else was happening, interesting teams to put on it as well. We got Black Hole sucking his up, Taggy selling theirs (nice to see the failed debuters out and about as well as the giant David) and Winner just... absorbing it? Liy being the only one who has to eat normally. Black Hole's little moral dilemma with the bugs was great, seeing him learn to balance the P.A.C.T with finishing challenges, he was trying so hard. Also Winner with the Loser O's, seeing that Loser maybe cared more about him then he thought, Also Loser not being famous anymore? Damn that episode really came back to haunt him.

I don't really have much to say about these guys, it was pretty tame compared with everything else going on. Nice to see Pen trying to branch out and connect with people.

Pencil and Book crash outs HOLY SHIT THIS WENT HARD! Pencil is traumatized from being in the E.X.I.T for years and wants things back to the way they were before with the alliance but has no idea how to convey her emotions properly which leads to her seeming obsessive and selfish. Her actions are sill bad but it's clear it's because she's hurt and traumatized and because of that is left emotionally unstable which leads to her accidently pushing away the people around her. Despite this I find Book pretty reasonable in her reaction if you look at it from her perspective, she had just managed to repair her relationship with Icy by giving her space and has practically forgotten about Freesmart till Pencil joined back. By this point Book has moved on and found new friends in Winner and Taggy but Pencil just comes in and expects Book to immediately want the alliance back. Book needed the same space Icy did for there to be a chance at healing their relationship but Pencil, unlike Book at that time, is highly unstable and unable to regulate her emotions so she suffocated Book which only leads to things getting worse. Pencil desperately needs some therapy.

In the end, Pen's talk with Pencil does give some hope at a redemption arc, it would be messy and painful but possible. Pen understands what it's like to lose all your close friends, and he could have become like Pencil except he still had people to catch him, namely Liy. Pencil had nobody going back into the game. Hopefully Pencil will listen to him and maybe Pen could continue helping Pencil become better.

Going back to some tamer stuff for a bit the haunted house group was interesting to watch. The writers finally gave TV something to do which is great but he's still one I wouldn't mind getting eliminated. The nature vs mechanical theme was interesting and just more showing of the slight negative bias towards mechanical minds from the contestants. Admittedly though Tree had a point for leaving TV to save both himself and Grassy but TV still had a right to be mad. Him controlling the spider mech was cool, Spid-TV lol. The fight scene was cool and just having Tennis Ball and the Fourse crash onto the mech was funny

Now onto the best part of the episode, Donut unironically just became on of my favourite characters now because of this episode. One's room is destroyed and she is clearly unstable, things are falling apart for her and Donut's ass is not helping that. He is suspicious from the start about the contract and is the first I believe to actually ask what's in it which One immediately deflects. As their interaction continues One becomes more and more agitated by Donut's refusal to sign, eventually having a full crash out while slamming him against a table and stealing his legs as well. Props to Donut here for sticking to his guns and not changing his mind despite having his last limbs actively ripped off which kinda reminded me of BFDIA Pin when her limbs were removed. Connection? Probably not but fun to note. Also notice how One has switched from manipulation and sweet talk to straight up threats and blackmail to get deals, most people left in the game to take for deals are smarter and questioning her which isn't great for One. Her facade is breaking apart as she has to put more and more effort into securing deals.

I also wanted to go into Donut getting his limbs back anyway at the end of the episode. I believe this could represent how One is actually quite powerless in a way. Sure she has her magic which we've seen to be very powerful but it can't control others. While we don't know right now why One needs to make deals with the contestants it's clear they're important to whatever plan she has. And to get those contracts the contestants have to actively sign them, she NEEDS the co-operation of the contestants and that's not something she can force through her magic, they always have the option to deny her no matter what she does. We see through this scene that the contestants don't need One to solve their problems and without her they will find a solution on their own. I like to think that if One hadn't interfered when she did for any of the deals they would likely solve their own problem soon after like shown here. And that's not even mentioning the POWER Donut has right now. While contestants like Fanny, Ice Cube, Gatey and Basketball know something is wrong, especially Fanny as we see her actively try to show Tennis Ball he research, they are all under contract. They have all accepted a deal. DONUT NEVER ACCEPTED THE DEAL AND NOW KNOWS WHATS GOING ON WITHOUT ONE BEING ABLE TO CALL IN A FAVOUR TO STOP HIM. He is now arguably the most powerful out of the resistance gang now due to this.

Now this last part is purely speculation so it could easily be proven false but I noticed how both Fanny and Ice Cube could make out their research while Tennis Ball couldn't. While this could just be One messing up his vision specifically what if knowledge about One determines if someone can see the board. Tennis Ball has never seen one like Fanny and Ice Cube and would, by this logic, not understand the writing. But Donut, who has seen one would be able to. I hope that makes sense.

In conclusion this episode was peak, thanks for listening to this long ass ramble

[demodraws0606]

TPOT Theory 1 : Two has One's arms

Okay so I have a pretty crazy short theory based on some observations in the episode that I've seen.

In TPOT 15 we see how using Four's arms can be used by the objects to revive other contestants. Meaning if an Algebrian maybe took the arms of another they could have that powers that come with those arms.

Which brings us to the fact that One never once mentions the power she wants as being "Two's power", in the same episode she says "there's other ways for me to get that power".

Two also doesn't seem aware or fully in control of their own power. They accidentally kill Cake and seem to almost unknowingly use their super strength on the strength test.

It would explain why One specifically would target Two instead of other algebrians like Four despite being so powerful herself, because it's her power.

Dare I go farther to say which number design wise would make more sense for to not have arms. In the animation itself Two ends up having only one arms because two arms end up hiding their two shape. Meanwhile One has the perfect amount of space for arms.

Now the question is how did Two get One's arms, we know in X finds his value that One didn't have arms there if we take that as fully canon.

This is gonna be spitballing and could miss canon entirely but there is a possibility that One gave Two her arms...out of pity.

Two possibly was the weakest algebrian, it would make them even more of an outcast considering they also hate math which potentially led to them being isolated.

One then could've given Two her arms...which she clearly now regrets for some reason.

Now I have more insane thoughts/theories about this but I'm not gonna share them....yet

[macawthestarwing]

So I just had a revelation while rewatching TPOT

So during the first episode when they introduced the new contestants, Two says that they’re a prime number (prime numbers are numbers that only have the factors 1 and themselves) and it got me thinking…

Multiplication works for Algebraliens in terms of fusion. This isn’t explicitly stated, but during the 1,500,000 subscriber special Nine mentions that if they use the rock thingy (idk what it is) the wrong way, them and Six would multiply instead of add

One times any number is just the same number (ex. 1 x 15 = 15)

One could in theory multiply with someone and no one would notice

We know that One wants Two’s power…

Conclusion:

One might possibly make a deal with Two. They would get their contestants, including their best friend back, and all they have to do is fuse with One

IDK this is just a random theory my brain spawned please point out any ways to prove or disprove this theory

[carnivorusobserver]

ANOTHA ONE‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥

But genuinely, new humanization! Sorry it took a minute, finals were a lot of a toll on me! Also head cannon ideas underneath the cut! also speed paint soon!

So!!! Lets get to it!!!

Monstrous Algebraliens

- As the number values increases, The algebralien has more monstrous features that are harder to hide. So zro has none, and 15 is just. straight TERRIFYING!! But one actually likes to show it off, I feel like she has no shame or need to hide because she's already very transparent. She hides information in a weird way, more like open secrets! So I feel like yes she's showing them, but never actually uses them in front of others. I do imagine her extra eye sometimes does expressions though, and when she's angry her mouths will talk instead of her main one.

- Adding onto that point, Maybe algabraliens are hiding an even worse form? Like they can turn into monsters, but the higher up you get the worst it is to hide because they have less power. So 2 and 1 look very normal, but probably have the worst forms and look absolutely terrifying in monster form. For numbers like 15, yes they can transform but like. they gain a few extra eyes I GUESSSSS OR WHATEVERRRRR

- this makes zro a monster lover. this is probably the greatest part of this headcannon. i love stupid babies < 3

[samuniverse108]

Tpot 13 talk cuz why not.

⚠️spoilers?⚠️

Soooo... I have this theory abt One wanting Two's power and Three in the cage (tpot 11)

So.

One and Three were jealous of how much both Two and Four were powerful, so they teamed up to steal their powers.

Three targeted Four and One targeted Two.

Three failed at stealing Four's power so they trapped him in jail in the EXIT;

While One was still targeting Two, but when they knew that Three was jailed she just groaned and said: "Ugh... What a waste of time. " (This is because she groaned and looked annoyed when she said "three" at the countdown while she was making a deal with Basketball)

So.. Yeah thats the theory, if you have any other ideas in mind dont mind sharing!

[corvesha]

Taking these from my Twitter to repost here

here's just the art for those who want it

[goldenclover-16]

Ok so I wanna talk about Leafy in TPOT for a second cause I am a firm believer One kidnapped her which raises the question of what One did with Leafy. It may not have been for a deal considering her name never shows up on the paper like everyone else but that could also be because One wants to hide the fact that she has Leafy from the TPOT contestants since she shows multiple people the list of her own volition.

In any case if One did try to get Leafy into a deal it could one of two very different ways considering how absolutely traumatized Leafy is. Either it would work right into One's favour or the biggest nuisance. I drew some low quality drawings to get the point across.

Option 1: Works in One's favour to easily manipulate her

Option 2: Leafy is the biggest nuisance ever, also the way funnier one im my opinion

It could also explain the state of One's room during TPOT 17 and as well as her attitude. Having to deal with a feral Leafy would do that to most people.

I drew these late last night so bear with it

[demodraws0606]

TPOT Theory 2 : What the hell is going on with the picture of Three on the fridge

It seems like there is someone who really doesn't want to aknowledge Three's entire existence.

TPOT 14

TPOT 15

There are two main things to note here, first is that Three's picture is like extremely noticable close to Two's picture on the fridge.

Keep in mind this is what the fridge looks like there is so much space that putting Three so close to Two has to be a deliberate choice here. Implying there is some kind of relationship/connection going on between the two.

First we need to get this straight, who would do this ?

I think the first surface level answer would be Four in a lot of people's mind right ? Because I mean Three IS in Four's weird mind palace thing. Which I won't get into it too much but...we don't know if Algebrians can't just teleport people into one another's mind palace so it's not impossible someone else put them in Four's head.

But like, does this seem like something Four would do ? Why would Four put himself so close to Two when he clearly has (at least a little bit of) resentement against them still ? If Four hated Three wouldn't they replace the picture with X or something ? This seems like something born out of very conflicting feelings which it would feel out of place in the storyline right now if it was Four.

However if we assume it's Two, things get a Lot more interesting.

Because of the implications of them putting Four's picture on top of Three's.

In TPOT 15 we have slight parallels between Four and Three, they look similar and at one point Three is replaced by Four when the timeline switches.

It's possible Two is trying to cope by seeing Four as a replacement for Three, which we know Two wants to be friendly with Four. Leading to them replacing Three's picture with Four, seeing him now as a replacement for Three.

"Hello friends I have no bad history with" shows that (ignoring the fact that it's not really a canon episode but shhhh).

Again I have a lot more thoughts about this and how One comes into all of this but....it's a lot.

[the-chessboard-is-personal]

small sleep deprived headache induced theory

so One has the blue place with flowers that anyone who signs one of her contracts goes to. and also the contract lounge ig?

Two has the Elimination Space

and Four has the EXIT.

what if all algebraliens have pocket dimensions? what would a dimension made(?) by X look like? what about 3?? 2763???

[adhbombus]

Who should win TPOT, Why and What would they do with it?

Serious discussion post because I’m only getting joke answers or non elsewhere

Im fully aware that the show is nowhere near over but I’ve seen a lot of discussion on this in the BFDI wiki server. In my opinion i think Black Hole should win. He’s gone through a lot and very much is scared of himself. If he were to win i think Black Hole would use TPOT to stop himself from accidentally killing people all the time, if something is about get sucked up he could use telekinesis or teleportation to stop that from happen. He could use TPOT to allow his friends to touch him and he’d finally be able to receive physical affection. pet the black hole.

But yeah thats just what I think! I’d love to hear what y’all think

[firehologram]

But the thing is if 4 is more powerful than 2 then 1 doesn't want power itself, I think she wants revenge

I just love the idea that 2 stole some of 1's power to convince the bfb contestants into switching and now she is pissed, maybe it has something to do with her being trapped in the moon

Revenge has been a big theme throughout the season, Icy, Pen, Pencil, etc, but also forgiving and letting go Icy again, Book, Donut, Winner

I hope everything is building up to something I can feel it in by bones

[harris-the-great]

Dude I just got a crazy ahh tpot theory w/ One

One yapping↓

Please tell me if this was obvious and I'm just slow, but I think it's pretty clear that One is going to use those contestants as bait. It's DEFINITELY clear that One is in this for the power - Two's power, and clearly nothing can come between One and that end goal ideal. They're an apathetic megalomaniac, and seem to care little about what happens to any non-algebralien/powerful life. But, not in an overtly evil way, I don't think. It's not like they 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 to see the contestants die, actually, I think One found it advantageous to keep them 𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦. Also, back to the whole 'It's not like they want to see them(the contestants) die' ppl are gunna say, "b-but, stupid Harris,, One literally said they don't care if they(the contestants) lived or died!!" Yeah. It's not like they 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 it, they just- really can't care less. They are completely apathetic to everything that doesn't relate to their plan. (Or at least I think).

Speaking of, I think a good indicator of what may or may not have to do with One's plan, is their genuine reactions to certain things/events. In category One, When Two was fast asleep, letting the contestants scurry around like bugs, They seemed to be trademark-evil-villain-scheming (let it be known this is not your generic evil villain scheming™, rest assured[?] ) that plotting- no. 𝘚𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨/ref seemingly suggested that One found Two's vulnerability to be fortuitous to their subsequent target. They want that power. While all the contestants are competing for it, One is just fine getting it through other means, if you can word it like that.

They're a megalomaniac. Sure they DO have power,

[static-errorcode]

what I want for tpot in the future

So we know how one might be two's co host. And we all know how the contestants have a big plot

But I want more algebraliens, and more side plots

I'd see at the end of a thanks for (insert number of subscribers) video. They would get a note from two saying this exactly

Hello my friends, it's me two, I have a big idea for a challenge for my show. But I'm gonna need some help, and I think one would need help. Side note one is back and is here. But anyways you don't have to come and help, but if you want to I don't mind

-from two

I don't think all the algebraliens would come

Id think seven, nine, six, and five, (maybe my oc Y) would come to help, but also 14 because they don't trust fourteen alone with the others

Maybe if jnj adds my oc Y her side plot would be to figure out Y (get it) the recovery center didn't give tree a new body

Id also see 14 having a change of heart Making friends with some of the contestant

And if seven and nine became canon they'd be all Romantic and lovey dovey

Five would help two with the challenges that involve lots of help

Maybe if they use my idea of five being a spell or magic user would be cook

And six Could have a few side plots where she trys to control her wild side

Plus if jnj makes a series after tpot

I could totally see four, x, two, five, six, seven, nine, fourteen, and maybe my oc Y to be on a team

Also if this happens call their team

The numbered alliance

Also have X pick the name cause it would be cute

If anyone could, could you send this to jnj I really like this idea

[interclover]

A Silly BFDI/XFOHV Theory

Today I was talking to my best friend about the newest subscriber milestone special. We were pretty amazed at the quantity of lore and character dynamics it had, and especially, at the reveal of what might be a biblically accurate angel for the Algebraliens: 2763. 

They mentioned that there used to be a theory that, the smaller the number, the more power it had, but with 2763’s introduction, it was debunked. However, I noticed that Four was stronger than Two – due to his ability to revive dead contestants, whereas we don’t see the latter doing that –, and, consequently, stronger than One – she mentions having power, but not as much as Two does –. Therefore, that theory was erroneous from the start. 

2763 > 4 > 2 > 1.

That string of numbers seemed funny to me, and so we got to another theory: what if, the bigger the number, the stronger it is? 

Nevertheless, we’ve never seen Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten or Fourteen using any type of special ability. It seems as if they were all powerless. 

Well, that’s actually because… 2763 was there! 

It is mentioned in the special that 2763 drains the powers of other algebraliens. We also know that it is sort of an omnipotent, omniscient being, from the tapes and that time where he communicated with Ten and Fourteen telepathically. So, it could’ve been possible for it to be at a distance close enough for him to absorb the other algebraliens’ forces. 

That would be why the others – Five, Six, etc, y’know, the integers in the specials – don’t display any skills or powers. It’s likely that the reason why they don’t do it in the first place is because they were made as joke characters, whose story was written on the go as the series became more serious – kinda like, well, everything in the bfdi universe –, but 2763’s existence could justify this powerlessness. 

Adding to this, my friend pointed out that Two was surprised when they were burnt by the lava. Looking into the BFDI Wiki, one of Two’s skills is “Heat Resistance”...

Which means that, had 2763 not been there, they wouldn’t have been burnt. 

Kaboom. 

TL;DR: an algebralien’s power is directly proportional to their value: the bigger they are, the stronger they are. The gang we see in the subscriber specials have never exhibited their abilities since 2763 was always near enough for it to drain their powers. 

Anyways, let me know what you guys think!! If I missed any details, please let me know. I’m keen on seeing everyone’s thoughts and developing more this theory :3