so. I've been reading some posts on the jedi order tag AND i won't talk about my opinion on "are jedi good or bad discourse" BUT i wanna point out some lore to everyone who's complaining about the jedi taking kids into their order: (in the EU) it wasn't always like this.
if you take swtor era (more than 3000 years before the prequels) there were many jedi who joined at an older age. like, for example there was a guy who broke his engagement to become one. most jedi remember their families because they were old enough when they decided to go.
THEN in darth bane's book trilogy (circa 1000 yesrs before the prequels) there is a passage where two sith lords are talking about taking bane, already an adult, to study at korriban. one doubted him because he was too old, ans the other told him he sounded like a jedi, and that ONE DAY jedi will have to accept only kids into their ranks if they really want to find "pure" people that can learn their lessons quicker.
one day!! so it wasn't always like that!! the ongoing wars with the sith, who corrupted and killed many of them, had pressured them into taking always younger people into their ranks.
also, consider a thing that this video explains super well: training to become a jedi is not like exercising, because there is a transformative lesson at the end of the training that changes everything. you can't just do as much as you can, but not finish.
the transformative lesson, as the video explains, is that through the force, everything is the same - from rocks and ships to life and death. at the end of the training you have to understand this fundamental truth.
yoda says "you have to unlearn what you have learned". during times where they were constantly killed off or corrupted by the dark side (and if you haven't learned this lesson you are more susceptible to this corrupting), younger people were taken in to actually finish their training (a training that was ultimately about being a good person AND that you could leave at any point if you weren't sold on that, too)
(remember that for the sith failure = death. like. that was the alternative for force sensitive kids. it's not like sith had any moral problem with taking kids away without consent. sith don't have moral problems: they believe that them being stronger in the force means they can do whatever they want as long as their strong enough to go and do it. there are MANY passages in many different star wars stories, even in different mediums, that say this out loud)
AND (this is more of a critical thought than just stating the lore) the fact that they started doing it out of necessity doesn't mean it's 100% good BUT you know. the whole set up of the prequels is that we're starting off the story in a period of crisis and decadence all around. most of the systems of the times were about to fall. OF COURSE they had problems. if they didn't, we wouldn't have the story to begin with.
that doesn't automatically mean jedi = bad and sith are better, tho. you wouldn't take the last, chaotic and decadent period to jugde something, would you? it's like deciding that the athenian democracy sucked because people at the times of Demosthenes failed at recognizing the new schemes in which the world was evolving into, and still believed that their city would be important as it had been in the previous century. They just didn't fucking expect the Macedons would conquer half the world known and more, and have the subsequent political power. Still, their experiences in the 5th century with democracy were very good, even better than ours on many fronts, if you contextualize a little. the jedi had flaws, and most importantly, they didn't fucking know the future and everything that ever happened, ever, so they made mistakes. that doesn't automatically make the system ill, or bad, or not-working. systems can have setbacks when the world changes. (just like athenian democracy had one when they lost the empire that was funding the democracy. they even had a tyranny for a while and then fixed the problems. that doesn't diminish retrospectively their democracy)
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Currently going insane thinking of The Amazing Digital Circus and the absolute HORROR of that fucking premise
Like the fact the cast knows they are not in their bodies and all it's already fucking scary, but also they can't remember what they looked like or their names is fucking horrifying
Like sure the part of not being in their bodies and having the crazy ass dysphoria is horrifying to me because- well, DID systems aren't a one person thing and in our case no one looks nor feels like the body is theirs so fuck us I guess
BUT never mind that, like being put on a body that is not yours that shit is already wild, but THEN forgetting what you looked like?? Holy shit that is a nightmare scenario, like props to Goose for making such a silly yet fucking nightmarish shit, that gotta be the worse place to Isekai'd fr
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"While Luci was curious about a lot of things, she couldn’t find that she was a master of very many of them when she didn’t need to be. Outside of science she couldn’t say she was especially outstanding in anything. She had been the president of debate - but it was mostly that no one else wanted the position. She had also been pretty good at track and field, but she hadn’t won many meets. It had all been just enough to make her competitive, and nothing that she had been especially interested in being great in. Instead she was just happy that she could play with Ariadne." From Check Mate
"Luci wasn’t good at words, not when they really mattered. It was why she always wrote everything down, practiced hard things to say. Showing someone though, that was always a lot easier for her so when the professor seemed to not only understand what she was trying to explain but why she was doing she relaxed and nodded her anxiety dissipating. She had been hopeful the other would understand, even if she really shouldn’t have had that faith. After all, Milo had said there were monsters everywhere." From Magical Accommodations
"The girl’s smile was bright and her excitement was palpable and Cass decided that she was going to do anything and everything in her power to make sure the two of them became friends because she liked that. So many people were afraid to get excited about things, as if opening yourself up to excitement was opening yourself up to disappointment. And that was true, sometimes… but not always." From Crystallization
"How long has it been here? Was it just coincidence Luci had dreams about it, or was it calling out for the young alchemist for help? Even if she hadn’t noticed the goo - the people seemingly losing themselves to a venus flytrap of rock and misery - she would have felt the need to help the mine. What was happening now wasn’t nature with its rules of growth and decay - but a tragedy of something absolutely wrong. It was a subversion, an abomination of the beauty and horror of nature. Startled for a moment, she realized it reminded her of her own alchemy - of something outside of her control that seemed to want to bend and break rules that created the cosmos. It was overwhelming, and made her realize maybe she was like this broken earth, leaking pain she couldn’t put into words but knew was fundamentally wrong.
Pausing for a moment to catch her breath she nodded resolutely in what she had to do. Just like her own magic, she was going to save this broken earth and stop this ache - or at least make it more manageable. She could do that at least, like she would for herself when she figured out how her own rules were broken. " From Sluginators vs. The Goo Goo Jerks
"Then she realized what she was looking for in other people’s eyes. She was trying to find her siblings. She was trying to find her sister’s eyes looking at her and telling her it was okay. She wanted to see that easy smile that crinkled at her eyes as Gen tousled her hair. She was trying to find the amused eyes that seemed to be surprised by everything she did. She was looking for her brother to try and understand what this feeling was in her gut. She wanted an explanation of what she was feeling that she couldn’t put words to. She was trying to find the people she’d always trusted instinctually in a sea of people that made her unsure of herself." From and I looked up and saw the Sun
"Half-breathing, half-choking, a strangled laugh escaped from his mouth at the statement. It caught him off guard and it was so very Luci that it just sucker punched him in the guts. There was a swelling of energy, the air between the two siblings suddenly feeling charged, a calm before the storm. Clutching at his hair, Milo forced himself to breathe until the current seemed to dissipate. But the calm didn’t last very long." From On a Wire
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that song selection got me good, what is the vibe supposed to be 😭😭😭
your guess is better than mine anon. the exchanged looks of horror my friends and i shared whenever a song turned over and we just waited to get tormented again
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