#victoire Fourier

[ottosbigtop]

Fuck this podcast and everything it stands for. Anyways lovelace’s old crew concepts

Also this.

[emp-t-man]

okay here’s the thing— i don’t think hilbert actually killed fourier and rhea, and here’s why:

yes. he did kill lambert and hui. we know that it’s because command insisted that he continue the human decima trials after fisher’s death, and since neither lambert nor hui had received the physical and immune system training that he had gone through, their bodies weren’t able to fight it off. but fourier… she didn’t die from the virus. she disappeared. the day after she was able to figure out how to wire the vx3 into lovelace’s escape shuttle. they never found a body. and rhea? she was deactivated only three hours before running the final calculations. and lovelace was right, these were definitely not coincidences. someone didn’t want them to leave the hephaestus. but why would hilbert want them to stay? there was no reason he needed lovelace alive. the door didn’t exist during that mission, and so hilbert had no reason to believe that command wouldn’t simply provide him with more subjects after this one was met with failure. hilbert himself wanted to get off the station and go home! he says so in episode thirty-one, where he admitted to contacting command fifty days before she left and suggesting that they terminate the mission! there was no logical reason for hilbert to resort to murdering in cold blood in order to keep lovelace on that station.

but.

there is someone else that would resort to such an extreme just to keep the hephaestus crew from returning to earth. someone who, several years later, was able to bend the laws of time and space to their will by creating a loop of an entire day just to ensure something would keep them in the same place.

“doug, are you seriously suggesting that the aliens were miraculously able to remove two entire people from existence without a trace?” you bet your ass i am.

here’s the thing: these guys are able to do pretty much anything they want. they’ve created human duplicates, they’ve created time loops, they use a god damn wormhole to transport humans to a seemingly entirely different plane of existence. if someone were to figure out a way to do something they didn’t like, they could very easily just,, make them disappear! just like lovelace assumed it was for hilbert, it was a last resort for them, and last resorts make people get sloppy!

another thing that makes me think hilbert wasn’t behind this in particular? lovelace stated in her logs that command stopped responding to their calls months before the day she died. just like cutter seemingly stopped responding to minkowski’s call for help four months before he arrived on the station. he was only able to actually make it to the hephaestus after eiffel and bob have their little heart to whatever-the-hell-bob-has. that also does not sound like a coincidence to me.

the aliens causing fourier and rhea to disappear also makes sense from a learning standpoint. after they made them go away, lovelace still managed to make it off the station, even if she died shortly after. having a little run-in with the indomitable human spirit like that would make sense as to why they would elect to simply have time repeat itself until someone did something stupid rather than only dwindling their recourses and letting them continue.

as we learned from kepler, this was far from the first time the aliens had done something to interfere with a hephaestus mission in order to attempt to start their process. why would they try so hard during zhang’s (and possibly several others’) mission and leave the crew entirely alone during lovelace’s, just to try and stir the pot again during minkowski’s run?

i dunno, it’s just a theory (a space theory), but i think it would make a lot more sense as to why lovelace’s mission went the way it did rather than simply “hilbert went crazy and pulled a wadsworth on everyone”

[topayitfoward]

Characters in a prequel that haunt the current narrative my beloved

[lovwren]

Wolf 359 doodles :)

Also just who is who cause why not

1, 2, 4, 7, 8 isabel lovelace

3 victoire fourier <333

5, 6, 7 renee my love (also maxwell 6)

9 hera <3

10 doug :)

[colosseumofblahaj]

i don't know why i chose to fixate on a character who appears once in a franchise and then never again. my brain just be like that.

[everythingitcouldbe]

What always kills me is the fact that NOT ONLY did Lovelace get a tape of Fisher’s death but the fact that she LEFT IT FOR THEM TO LISTEN TO

OH MY GOD. THAT IS SO BRUTAL. THATS SO SAD.

you gotta wonder how many times she’s played that stupid tape. You gotta wonder how many times she’s replayed his death wondering what she could do differently. I feel like she does the same to Fourier. Could she have protected Fourier?

[theclosetskeletons]

I'm relistening to Wolf 359 special Change of Mind and this episode and characters are wonderful, but I especially forgot how much I adore Victoire Fourier. She's so good

[leonstamatis]

Victoire didn’t want to figure out how to get home; she didn’t want to fight with Lovelace or have it out with Selberg. She didn’t want to have to think about Goddard or the bodies in the lab. She wanted to rest, and the only way that would happen would be if everyone somehow forgot she was here. Or if she died, which it seemed she likely would. Or. Something tickled at the back of Victoire’s brain. It wasn’t fair to call it an idea, not really. It was barely an inkling. Barely so much as a light. But it was something, and Victoire couldn’t shake the roots of it as they sank in. What if she was dead?

(the victoire fourier lives au literally no one asked for!)

[ichabodcranemills]

There has to be someone out there who wrote the “Lambert and Lovelace pressed do and now Fourier is commander” fic

[ottosbigtop]

Aaand a collection of wolf stuff I’ve been hoarding once more

[emp-t-man]

OKAY HANG ON. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE POPULAR OPINION ACTUALLY IS BEFORE I RELEASE THIS HC I’VE HAD FOR THE LONGEST TIME BECAUSE IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME AND I NEED PEOPLE TO AGREE

[isabellovelaces]

Sometimes I think about how we could have gotten wolf359 spin offs with the SI5 or the Lovelace Administration…

I’d pay all my money for a spin off of either of them

[fallenfromtheskies]

me relistening to wolf 359 special episode change of mind

[colosseumofblahaj]

top of my list of characters that i want to play but never will is victoire fourier (my beloved)