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briebysabs · 1 year
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Since I am such a normal individual I’ve decided to attempt breaking down vanoé’s character song “Le Formidable”. I don’t hear much talk about it but the lyrics are just as cryptic and wild as the OP/ED.
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Before we get into it, in terms of translation, I could only find one on YouTube that thankfully color-coded the lyrics so I could decipher who sings what. If anyone has any other translations, I’d love to know please. So a bunch of the lines you can kinda figure out who’s singing but here’s how it’s gonna be:
Vanitas =💙
Noé =💜
Vanoe= 💙💜
Simple enough let’s get into it :)
💜: /I want to stay in bed feeling the warmth of the sun and drift in and out of this sweet dream/
Already we’ve mentioned dreaming, a running theme in this song. There is the well-known line Teacher says in chapter 55...
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Sleeping, specifically in regards to Noé, is something mochijun makes the audience take note. He can’t sleep without holding something. When he can’t fall asleep, it is highlighted like the night Vanitas rejected Noé drinking his blood. He doesn’t want Vanitas to disappear and I personally like how in the recent chapter, Vanitas stays by his side for a while. Almost like callback to that moment on the train but I’m getting carried away. You get the correlation I’m making, it’ll get very important later on.
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We also have those warmth and sun connections to Noé, a large part of his character and Vanitas’ gravitation towards him.
💙: /With this grey weather today, this day will go by without any harmony/
We see Vanitas’ pessimistic outlook on life; grey, cloudy, devoid of color. Devoid of comfort and obviously these two contrasting people will clash but mix together throughout the song.
💜: /Tarte Tatin, Altus Paris! Endless interesting things!/
💙: /It’s always like this! Here and there, endlessly losing sight./
This seems pretty straightforward, Noé is getting distracted by all the wonderful things as usual and Vanitas chastises him. But let’s frame this another way, Noé is choosing to not focus. It’s simpler that way. He’s turning his focus elsewhere to better things, more pleasant things. And Vanitas is trying to wake him up. I’ll explain more in my theory soon.
💜: /What to look for today from this city/
💙: /Ah with all these things/
💙💜: /There is no time to rest/
Simple lyrics here. No comment.
💙💜: /Le formidable! Le formidable! It’s really easy. Just colliding, rolling down, and repeating again/
Here we are entering the chorus. There’s a common thread of repetition in every OP and ED in VnC. Like clockwork, these two have fallen into this pattern.
Colliding- Vanoé meeting, two worlds learning how to come together, joining as one
Rolling down- their downfall, incoming despair and tragedy
Repeating again- they find themselves back where they started, fated to be born and to die
Let me say the first part of my theory and keep this in the back of your head while remembering the lyrics: VnC is not a time loop in the traditional sense but rather a loop of memories. Also keep in mind the first ED Zero: “Now I remember, oh I have never lived a day without you. Untie the layer of memories...”
💙: /This worthless-/
💜: /wonderful-/
💙💜: /world we are walking on. Even not knowing is sometimes nice, right?/
Again, vanoé with different outlooks on life meet each other. But more importantly, we see the display of ignorance or blissful unawareness. We the audience have a vague idea on how this story ends and in a way, so do they. Vanitas knows very well he is doomed and has already entrusted Noé to end his life if it comes to it. But we also don’t know the specifics of their downfall and neither do they.
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So this line has a double meaning that refers to the characters and the reader. As yeah it is nice to read vnc and enjoy the happy moments without knowing the painful details of what’s to come.
💜: /Over there something is flapping their wings/
💙: /And these uncountable days pass by. It’s not worth worrying about. So many unknown things, without meaning/
💜: /Escalier! I want to see the bright colors beyond!/
Noé, again giving his attention to supposedly insignificant things as Vanitas tends to see the larger picture, not caring for the mundane. Uncountable days can be matched with the grey weather mentioned earlier. But that also means things are murky, blur together, cloudy. They don’t make sense to Vanitas (such as love, his self-worth, the nature within people) while Noé wants to experience all the brightness of the world.
💙: /I told you to be quiet today, yet here we are!/
💜: /Now you loud person!/
💙💜: /I told you I hardly have time to breathe/
So, hypothetical scenario if we take this song literal: Vanoé is exploring the city because Noe wanted to Vanitas couldn’t say no. Vanitas is fed up and Noé thinks his complaints are aggravating. But this part shows a lack of understanding. They’re yelling about their own hardships but don’t see the other’s perspective.
💙💜: /Le formidable! Le formidable! It’s a simple thing. It’s just finding, losing sight and repeating again/
💜: /I want to dream/
💙: /It’s just a dream/
💙💜: /The world keep walking while not knowing the truth at this point/
Ok there’s a lot to dig our teeth in here. First of all, the finding, losing sight, repeating is another way of describing the colliding and rolling down said prior. Vanoe find each other, they lose each other, it’s fated to happen all over again. Now the big piece here, I want to dream/It’s just a dream. Surface-level interpretation > another instance of their differences. Noé wants be surrounded by dreams and wonder. While Vanitas looks at that beauty and scoff at it, since it isn’t real therefore not worth caring for. But if we read into this carefully, Noé wants to dream. He wants to stay in these memories, he doesn’t want to live in a world without Vanitas.
Let’s go back to OP 1: “I love this world and the light only you give me.”
We know OP 1 is Noe’s POV so let’s ask ourselves why would the Noé we are seeing, the one smiling at all the colors of the world say Vanitas is the only light he has (emphasis on “only”). Because the Noé singing the first OP is operating with far more knowledge and despair. We don’t know the truth at this point. “This world” is not real.
Allow me to offer what I think is happening. Noé and Vanitas meet, they go on this journey of understanding, trust, and love, Vanitas reaches his end and is killed by Noé. Noé lives on. We can tell the Noé writing this story is full of regret and sadness. But why is he writing this all down? He’s retelling the memories, putting them down physically on paper. Two things happened:
a) He exchanged his name with Naenia, wishing to remain in a world with Vanitas in it. Because that wish is still very present, Naenia has great interest in Noé. She mentions seeing him before in Louis but it could be a classic mochijun misdirect and it’s actually from receiving his name in a different iteration. There is that official art with Noé wearing Vanitas’ coat with that goat entity he saw in Gevaudan, pinned to his vest.
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However this can only work if Naenia is still around and isn’t resolved/defeated in the memoirs.
b) This is more likely in my opinion. Noé uses the Books and the memoirs act as a catalyst for him to have the world become his memories or for him to live in them. I know only those with blue blood or something can use the books.
Which is why Dr. Moreau had those experiments with Vanitas and Misha. Don’t worry, I already have a theory that Archivistes are some form of blue moon vampires but that is a whole other discussion. Point is, I think the Books of Vanitas are like an Elliot sword situation. Yes, Elliot owns the Nightray sword and carries it around but you don’t know its true purpose in the story until Leo wields it.
Noé causes these memories to replay, perhaps to save Vanitas or simply to dream again. Go back to when he was last happy. But here’s the thing, the Noé in this memory is unaware or ignorant of this, sees his present world as the real one and undergoes the events of the series. Vanitas dies, he lives on, and creates a memory world for himself. Rinse, recycle, repeat. Essentially, the first ED gave it away. The entirety of VnC is a layer of memories. Even the narrator Noé we are hearing is a memory that is trying to manifest a world of his own.
Reality and dreams are all intertwined now and Noé got lost in it. There are leaks in the cracks, for example when Vanitas cries and tells Luna his mother died at childbirth why would he call to her. Initially, you can read this as he’s just missing what he never had. But what if Vanitas’ mother was present in his life 9 memory loops ago but because these memories get further from the truth the more it happens, Noé simply forgot that detail when making the memoirs at some point in time. So now, in the memory layer #52 Vanitas has no mother.
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💜: /We will see what we “cannot see”/
💙: /We will know what we “don’t know”/
💙💜: /The final stop of this world that seems to be changing, seems only further ahead/
Noe’s line possibly goes into his Archiviste nature and how he experiences reading memories. It can as well build back into the dream/memory loop thing, he’s seeing things he can no longer “see.”
Vanitas’ line can be drawn to what Noé said during their fight.
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Vanitas acts like he has the final word and has a full grasp of how this world/himself works. But he really doesn’t and Noé is living proof of that, proving him wrong on several occasions that there’s still hope, they can’t give up yet, he won’t leave him etc. The final stop of this world is changing, but it’s further ahead. This is a story, a preserved section of time from the past. We gotta ask ourselves... why would the last stop be changing? Again, Vanitas’ death is the final stop but it’s changing, perhaps from the countless iterations we’ve gone through Noé writes the memoirs in a way that delays the ending. So he could remain just a little longer…
💙💜: /Le formidable! Le formidable! Everything is fine. While forgetting, hiding, and repeating it/
💙: /This worthless/
💜: /wonderful/
💙💜: /world we are walking on/
💙: /I don’t know but even so/
💜: /If it can make you smile.../
After this, it ends the song by repeating the first chorus with the colliding-rolling down part so I’ll make this the cutting point. The “everything is fine” totally doesn’t stick out in a story where we know everything will not be fine. The forgetting and hiding goes back to my dream-memory theory, Noé is hiding from the truth in these stacks upon stacks of memories and is possibly forgetting things as they really happened as a result. We already know he isn’t the most reliable narrator. But Noé wants to see Vanitas’ smile.
If it can make you smile again, if it can replay your laughter, why would I ever leave this wonderful lie? In OP 1: “Your laughing was reflected by a daydream”.
I’ll conclude this by saying two things. If you want to get even deeper, you can interpret Vanitas in this song as the voice in the back of Noé’s head. Its just a dream, this world is actually worthless, and Noé is trying to drown out those thoughts. Because yeah they sing lines together but the only time they’re directly speaking to each other is when Vanitas scolds Noé and Noé shouts back, calling him loud. Finally, I could be wrong in all this. I am aware how crazy I may look and I'm so thankful if you read this far.
But yeah if this is anywhere near canon, mochijun must be the most unhinged, absolutely cracked author I’ve ever seen. We’re going into Pandora Hearts levels of intricacy here. I hope you enjoyed my insanity 👍🏼
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good7luck · 1 year
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VNC Amusement Park arc spoilers (manga ch 55(.5) / anime ep 24)
** NOT for “Misha absolutely did nothing wrong ever” fans, perhaps
** my brief theory about That Day (when Vanitas killed Luna and left Misha)
** potential spoilers **
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Vanitas' (no) Apology
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On the roof, Vani gave Misha the explanation on why he killed Luna, why he wouldn’t go with Misha, etc.
After Misha left, Vani apologized to Noe for what he did yesterday.
It’s Noe’s FIRST time to hear / see some SERIOUS apology from Vani for his ACTUAL fault ever, especially compared to his forced kiss on Jeanne and his playful apology for it, for example...
That’s why Noe got surprised, confused, and even worried XD
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“Vani killed Luna! And left Misha alone!! Vani is sooo terrible--”
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“Whaaat, as if Vani did nothing wrong on That Day--”
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Of course, I do NOT mean Misha is the real culprit “simply because” Vani did not apologize to him lol I do NOT mean Vani never played any negative role at all in the tragedy on That Day, either...
However, I personally believe
it’s still very normal for a traumatized victim to want to avoid the aggressive culprit at all costs, who already caused huge damage, including some unwanted death...even if they’re family.
I’d like to elaborate more about That Day later...! Thanks for reading!!
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HI!! same anon who asked about vnc here. i feel like your answer is enough of a go-ahead for me to be a bit more unhinged so first of all PLEASE SHARE YOUR VNC THOUGHTS. at some point. you must be the change you want to see in the world and whatnot. ive been on a skk kick but my bimonthly vnc rewatch is my sanitys single saving grace. vanitas is such a pathetic worm and he deserved to get stomped painfully into the ground /aff
also just letting you know that a second season is unlikely bc the anime adapted 55 out of 61 chapter (WHICH ON THE BRIGHT SIDE easy to catch up!!! :"D) the only time ive seen an anime get THAT close is with... bsd. which. well. sure was something. but i doubt theyd go that route with vnc
i have... alot of opinions on the ships. but its ALOT. however i will disclose that vanoe <3 SO JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU DO POST ANYTHING VNC/VANOE RELATED.... there will be at least one person (ME!!) screaming about it FHDJDJSJ
Oh it's completely a go-ahead, I'd love the chance to be deranged about them!!! Gonna stick it under a cut because it's gonna be long ahahaha~ (possible V/anitas no Carte spoilers under cut, so be warned!)
Augh I know, I mean look at this man!!!! He deserves to be wrecked in the most gorgeously affectionate painful whumpening <3 I want to bite him (and we know he'd like it LMAO)
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I adore skk and satosugu, but Vanoe will always have such a sweet place in my heart~ gah tragic beloveds (that are at times, not tragic) are my bread and butter.
Yeahhhh, I did hear about thatttt, but I'm still hopeful that after... idk... 5-6 years... we might get more.... I just!!! They can't end it like that!!!! I mean it's an ending I can live with, but god I crave so much more!!!!
Omg if you ever wanna discuss the opinions I'd be so happy to listen!!! I have some opinions about dif ships in there too (Olivier and Roland are In Love and you cannot convince me otherwise).
So I adore Vanitas like I mentioned, but um... Olivier also owns my heart. We don't get enough of him I love him- the way he gets a headache every time Roland is there???? ICONIC OF HIM <333
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He's just... he's so gorgeous. He has the aethetics that I adore, and a personality I find intriguing and fun~ Gahhh now I need to rewatch again hahahaha~
(also love Roland but in the same way I love Noe, just lil sweethearts <3 also also Chloé and Jean-Jacques <3 are so precious <3 to me and each other <3 )
Aaaand a little snippet as a 'thank you' and 'congrats' for making it to the end of this way-too-long response, here's a lil taste of what I had headcanoned for Vanoe
Vanitas: Soft, little rapid ones, 'iHh'tchiew! hiH'tchhue!' and he is so. mad about it. Will often try to stifle so no one hears them, orrrr add a yell/growl to try and unsuccessfully make them sound more 'fitting'. Truth is, they fit him better than he'd ever admit~
Noe: Harsh and (fairly) Loud, and it surprises literally everyone, Vanitas most of all (despite hearing it however many times now). Think something like, 'hHRZShh'ieh! ah'yieASHhuh!' You'd think someone this soft-spoken and sweet would have a dainty little sound, but nope~
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prapo237 · 1 year
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VNC chapter 60 is really too positive. Making it all more plausible that this is all a dream. A dream where you must wake up from, like teacher said in chapter 55:
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digital-dhampirs · 2 years
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Hey there! So, I am relatively new to VNC. Watched the first cour this summer and devoured the manga (including the Chapter 55 floating around). I bought as many volumes of the english translations I could find (some will be repressed and released very soon). I browsed your archive before asking this, as I didn't find any posts discussing it...
Am I crazy, or did I instantly "get" that Ruthven, with all his sus connections and more, will use his 'one command' for Noé specifically to kill Vanitas (OBVIOUSLY against the Archiviste's will)?
This leapt out at me as it happened in real time.
And secondly, do you have any hope that the recent "Vampire!Vanitas" official artwork by MochiJun is more than just a tease? Could she be alluding to the fact that Noé, after fulfilling the request to 'kill vanitas', ends up instantly saving him by turning him into a vampire?
Just thoughts. because I am especially shook by chapter 55.
Howdy and thanks for the ask!! Welcome to the vnc fandom and the insane painful world of trying to figure out where mochijun is taking this incredible story….!
Lemme start with your ask about Ruthven! I’m pretty sure this was quite a popular theory way back when Chapter 19 was first released. You’re not crazy— given how attached they are to each other, Ruthven’s one command seems like a very logical way for Noé to end up killing Vanitas.
Howeveeeeerrr… maybe this is because I’m a bit of a Ruthven simp, but I can’t help but think this would be an out of character thing for Ruthven to do. I don’t think he’d command Noé to kill Vanitas unless he could benefit from it somehow; and I can’t really see how he would. Vanitas, as someone who can use both the alteration machine and the Book of Vanitas, seems like someone who’d be much more useful to Ruthven alive than dead. Even if he did really want Vanitas dead, Ruthven seems pretty capable of killing him himself if necessary.
The only other problem with this idea is that current! Noé, the one writing the Book of Vanitas, seems to have a lot of guilt over Vanitas’s death and states that he failed to grab Vanitas’s hand when he needed to. This makes it sound like Noé wasn’t actively the one who killed Vanitas, but rather believes that his inability to do something is what ended up causing Vanitas’s death / disappearance from the mortal plane. It seems doubtful that Noé would have this kind of guilt if he was brainwashed or cursed into killing Vani.
As! For! Vamp! Vani! Personally, I think it’s just a fun piece of artwork. Interestingly, we haven’t actually seen any humans turned into vampires in VnC besides the ones turned by the Babel Incident— this makes me think that it’s not possible for VnC’s ordinary vampires to turn humans into vamps.
Thank you again for the ask and sorry for the extremely late response!
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Installing Openstack Nova Compute on another node In this fifth sequel, we shall indulge in the Installation of Nova Compute on another node. It shall have Nova Compute, Libvirt, L2 Agent, and Open vSwitch. Step 1: Install KVM. [root@node01 ~]# yum -y install qemu-kvm libvirt virt-install bridge-utils Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Check its status [root@node01 ~]# systemctl status libvirtd ● libvirtd.service - Virtualization daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu 2019-03-07 10:38:25 EST; 3 days ago Docs: man:libvirtd(8) https://libvirt.org Main PID: 78751 (libvirtd) Tasks: 19 (limit: 32768) CGroup: /system.slice/libvirtd.service ├─78751 /usr/sbin/libvirtd ├─78859 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf --leasefile-ro --dhcp-s… └─78860 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf --leasefile-ro --dhcp-s… Step 2: Install Install openstack-nova-compute: [root@node01 ~]# yum --enablerepo=centos-openstack-queens,epel -y install openstack-nova-compute Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile epel/x86_64/metalink | 55 kB 00:00:00 base: mirror.ucu.ac.ug centos-qemu-ev: mirror.ucu.ac.ug epel: mirror.layeronline.com extras: mirror.ucu.ac.ug updates: mirror.ucu.ac.ug Step 3: Configure Openstack Nova Compute Back up the original Nova file and configure a new one as shown below: [root@node01 ~]# mv /etc/nova/nova.conf /etc/nova/nova.conf.bak [root@node01 ~]# vim /etc/nova/nova.conf #new file [DEFAULT] define own IP address of the new node my_ip = 192.168.122.132 state_path = /var/lib/nova enabled_apis = osapi_compute,metadata log_dir = /var/log/nova RabbitMQ connection info set in controller node transport_url = rabbit://openstack:[email protected] [api] auth_strategy = keystone enable VNC [vnc] enabled = True server_listen = 0.0.0.0 server_proxyclient_address = $my_ip novncproxy_base_url = http://192.168.122.130:6080/vnc_auto.html Glance connection info configured in controller node [glance] api_servers = http://192.168.122.130:9292 [oslo_concurrency] lock_path = $state_path/tmp Keystone auth info configured in controller node [keystone_authtoken] www_authenticate_uri = http://192.168.122.130:5000 auth_url = http://192.168.122.130:5000 memcached_servers = 192.168.122.130:11211 auth_type = password project_domain_name = default user_domain_name = default project_name = service username = nova Do not forget the password set when creating nova service password = pepe123 [placement] configured in controller node auth_url = http://192.168.122.130:5000 os_region_name = RegionOne auth_type = password project_domain_name = default user_domain_name = default project_name = service username = placement Do not forget the password set when creating placement service password = pepe1234 [wsgi] api_paste_config = /etc/nova/api-paste.ini Change permission settings and group for the file created above [root@node01 ~]# chmod 640 /etc/nova/nova.conf [root@node01 ~]# chgrp nova /etc/nova/nova.conf Add relevant ports to firewall then start and enable nova-compute [root@node01 ~]# firewall-cmd --add-port=5900-5999/tcp --permanent success [root@node01 ~]# firewall-cmd --reload success [root@node01 ~]# systemctl start openstack-nova-compute [root@node01 ~]# systemctl enable openstack-nova-compute Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/openstack-nova-compute.service to /usr/lib/systemd/system/openstack-nova-compute.service. Now we go over to the interesting part where we see whether our newly configured node has been discovered by the controller.
[root@controller ~(keystone)]# su -s /bin/bash nova -c "nova-manage cell_v2 discover_hosts" [root@controller ~(keystone)]# openstack compute service list +----+------------------+------------+----------+---------+-------+----------------------------+ | ID | Binary | Host | Zone | Status | State | Updated At | +----+------------------+------------+----------+---------+-------+----------------------------+ | 3 | nova-consoleauth | controller | internal | enabled | up | 2019-03-11T10:35:04.000000 | | 4 | nova-conductor | controller | internal | enabled | up | 2019-03-11T10:35:11.000000 | | 5 | nova-scheduler | controller | internal | enabled | up | 2019-03-11T10:35:05.000000 | | 6 | nova-compute | node01 | nova | enabled | up | 2019-03-11T10:35:10.000000 | +----+------------------+------------+----------+---------+-------+----------------------------+ There we go guys, stay tuned for our next sequel in this great quest of having our three node cluster up and running. Below are previous links to the first parts of this sequel Installation of Openstack three Node Cluster on CentOS 7 Part One Installation of Three node OpenStack Queens Cluster – Part Two Installation of Three node OpenStack Queens Cluster – Part Three Installation of Three node OpenStack Queens Cluster – Part Four Below is the Next guide Installation of Three node OpenStack Queens Cluster – Part Six
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lightgirlification · 3 years
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Vanitas no Carte has ended me
I mean it already has
But this chapter eviscerated me
WARNING: SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 55 PART 2
Let’s start with this:
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The first thing Noe does is look for Vanitas. Despite his wounds, he looks for him. And when he does there is no anger, no hate. Just two close companions that know they need to talk and sort things out. Vanitas knows Noe would come looking for him, so he stays put in the same spot where they’ve talked several times before; the rooftop. I think this shocks Noe, because this a far cry from the Vanitas who would hide away, afraid to talk about his problems or the conflicts he and Noe have. This is a Vanitas that knows he needs to talk with Noe, and will do so in order to keep their relationship alive. I’m so proud of Vanitas here.
Then I, as well as Noe, were shocked when this happened:
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Mikhail appears, and I was scared that he would lash out at them, but no. He actually is calm and WANTS to talk. Honestly, in one panel, he looks so small. He looks like the sad, lonely child that misses the family he desperately wants back.
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And Noe I think can sense this, even feeling guilt for Mikhail’s wounds. Because this is a person important to Vanitas, and he hurt them.
And here we learn what happened to Luna:
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Luna had their name stolen, and was going to turn into a bloodthirsty monster, so Vanitas had to do what he did. Luna more then likely NEVER wanted that to be put on his shoulders, but Vanitas knew he had to rather then see the person he grew to love as a parental figure become something they never wanted to be. 
And he misses them. He misses what the three of them had, and would do anything to get it back. However, we and especially Vanitas know that life doesn’t work that way.
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I believe Mikhail is offering to end Vanitas’ life, maybe so they can all be together in death.
But Vanitas, so moved by Noe’s words and Noe as a person, says this:
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“If I can choose my way to die, if I can have a wish, if I am going to be killed...
I want Noé to do it.”
This is POWERFUL. Vanitas, who couldn’t bare to make connections with anyone, now trusts Noe so much that he will entrust him with this wish. It may be a horrible wish, but for someone like Vanitas to share this with Noe, something that is between them, it speaks louder then the words he just spoke.
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And Noe cries. Because the last time someone asked for this they were ripped from his grasp. He doesn’t want to loose anymore people he cares about, people he loves, but he knows how much this wish means to Vanitas. He knows that now he will be able to at least say goodbye. And he cries.
Mikhail can’t understand. He doesn’t understand why Vanitas needs anyone else, why he would trust other people. Why Vanitas won’t just come with him and be a family again. 
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So he cries. He cries for the time they lost, the time they will never get back, and the time they’ll never have again. 
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And he says goodbye to the brother he loves, both knowing that this will be the last time they will ever speak to each other so peacefully. This honestly made me tear up, because the two of them deserve so much more then the hand they were given, yet fate pulls them apart like this.
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Then Noe and Vanitas talk. They talk like they always have, like the two we’ve all grown to love. 
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“I gave up. Making you do as I wish.”
Noe just looks absolutely adorable help this boy has too muCH POWER-
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“Yes...I also won’t change... Vanitas. Let’s go.”
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Noe asked in the beginning ‘What is love?”
This is love Noe. What you feel for Vanitas, what Vanitas feels for you, what the two of you would do for each other despite everything that’s happened. You reaching your hand out, to be the sun when he is surrounded by rain clouds. Talking, bickering, laughing with each other, and being by his side.
That is love.
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vanoelove · 3 years
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The way Vanitas tried to stop Noe and got caught in the explosion because of it
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MochiJun is at it again with the historical references!
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good7luck · 1 year
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VNC latest chapter 58 spoilers!
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MJ Sensei, probably: Why so stressed over The Backstory?? You already watched some of it in the anime! Don’t you remember...? :’)))
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Astolfo’s backstory in the anime episode 18 = S2 ep 6:
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Some: The anime staff arbitrarily put Astolfo’s made-up anime-original backstory that did not exist in the original manga Gevaudan arc! Bad anime!!
Sensei: You thought lol *throws chapter 58*
Astolfo’s backstory:
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Fandom:
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Also some: Sensei’s bonus manga for expensive BD/DVD is solely for BD/DVD buyers, so they’re all nothing canon / trustable but just some silly fanservice for mere joke and tasteless queerbait!!!
Sensei: Excuse me? Why do you think I got mentally and physically exhausted after the anime and so had to take a long long break =_= *throws chapter 58*
Fandom:
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To be fair, there are some differences between the anime ep 18 and the manga ch 58 (FROM Astolfo getting the knife from his father TO the vampire calling him foolish). I remember Sensei? uploaded some of her rough sketches for the anime script, but I cannot go dig and find the link myself right now, sorry!
About the bonus manga for BD/DVD - I remember there were some page(s?) that Astolfo tells Olivier about his new vampire “friend” and Olivier recalls young Roland and himself. Which is now explicitly connected to the manga ch 58 (NOT the same drawings, I think?), where Olivier confesses he knew about Astolfo’s secret vampire “friend” but failed to see the danger because of his childhood memory with Roland. (Please do NOT ask me where to read the bonus manga, I myself have no idea!)
I thought Sensei told the anime staff beforehand about her full plans for the unfinished (at that time) Amusement Park arc and only it (which was already quite insane speed tbh asdfg). NOW I see she told them even further (than Noe/Vani roof scene in ch 55(!)) - more details about Astolfo’s parents and vampire “friend” in ch 58. No wonder she was SOOO busy over the anime...
It’s also clear that she already has her plans ready for future plots, at least by some level :’))) I saw some worry about the possibility that she might “run out of plot ideas” and so give up on continuing her own VNC, but honestly it’s the last thing to worry about in regards to VNC and Sensei, oops XD I mean, please don’t underestimate her (and her works, including the bonus created by her) XDD
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Gonna kiss mochijun's mind
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The face of a man who absolutely, under NO circumstances, should be allowed anywhere near vulnerable children. 😤
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a somewhat coherent breakdown of VnC 55 (part 1): The Teacher
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VnC 55 is a short chapter.
But holy shit, so much happens in it. We get so much information and the art is so pretty and I’m very very scared and I Need To Know More and when is January again.
So much stuff happens in this chapter that while I was writing this breakdown I realized I was going to have to split it into two parts just for my own sanity (and also for readability reasons). Part 1 will primarily focus on the Teacher, and then we’ll get into the other characters, along with a few predictions for upcoming chapters, in Part 2.
Before we start, three warnings! : 1) this post contains many spoilers for vnc chapter 55; 2) i will refer to the teacher as “teacher” and “comte” interchangeably during this post; annnnd 3) this post is very long. even for me. i… the teacher is my new Ruthven and the fact that his story intertwines with Luna’s makes my already meager ability to control my rambling even worse.
With that, let’s jump into the wild world of…
Mur— I mean, The Teacher
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Let’s start by breaking down our first Teacher Fun Fact: his face reveal. The Teacher’s left eye is copper sulphate blue, the same color as Vanitas’s. His right eye is some unspecified other color but (judging from the fact that the way his eyes are colored matches up pretty much perfectly with Human! Murr’s eyes in the volume 8 cat cafe omake) is very very likely to be magenta/ purple.
This isn’t quiiiiite confirmation yet, but the matching eye colors plus the Teacher’s line about meeting Vanitas in a different form makes it incredibly likely that the Teacher is indeed Murr. And this. Uh. I. /stares at various panels of Murr eating cat food, playing with cat toys, cuddling up to Amelia, and having a crush on a cat./ I will once again generously refer to him as a method actor.
Of course, there’s always a chance that this could be a red herring and Murr is a separate entity from the Teacher in some way, but there’s a lot of evidence pointing to them being one and the same.
The Teacher and Names
The next massive piece of information we get on the Teacher is the name he’s currently going by— the Comte de Saint Germain. After some very brief googling, it turns out the Comte de Saint Germain was a philosopher and adventurer who lived during the 18th century. And this guy was an oddball. Nobody truly knows who he was or where he came from (although there are various theories going around). The Comte constantly lied about his true identity, switching names and personas at the drop of a hat. He made absolutely insane claims about himself, one of which was that he was multiple centuries old; and had strong ties to alchemy, stating he could melt diamonds and create gemstones. Despite his constant lying, people frequently found themselves drawn to the Comte, and thought he was fascinating rather than just a run of the mill charlatan (pun somewhat intended).
And that? That name sounds kinda perfect for the Teacher. Nobody knows where he came from, he changes his name and form at the drop of the hat, he’s centuries old, and he has strong ties to alchemy.
It follows to ask, though— in the universe of VnC, did the Teacher meet the Comte, find him interesting, and take on his name after he died? Or was he actually running around as the Comte throughout the 1700s, just a version of him reimagined as a vampire (similar to the characters we meet in the Gévaudan arc)? If the latter is the case, he’s likely been using this name for over a century by 1889, when VnC is set— does he cycle through a specific set of names/ identities?
Another odd thing to note is that so far, all of the names Teacher has used haven’t really been…. names. “Grandfather” and “Teacher” aren’t really names, they’re more like titles, and “Comte” just means “count”.
And wait. That’s weird too. Didn’t the Teacher already turn down the title of “count” and give it to his kid, Count de Sade? Why would he toss his own title away only to name himself “count” again later?
I think this is an indication of yet another detail on Teacher we see displayed throughout this chapter— he has a Thing with names. I don’t quite know what to call it— a preoccupation? An obsession? Either way, there is absolutely something going on with the Teacher and names.
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Chapter 55 shows us that Ruthven’s line way back in Chapter 19– “if anyone calls him by the wrong name, he beats them within an inch of their life on the spot…”— was absolutely not an exaggeration. The Teacher’s grin turns from cheery to absolutely horrifying when Vanitas refers to him as “Shapeless One”, and he threateningly tells Vanitas to not get it wrong the next time.
The Teacher, despite insisting Vanitas call him by the right name, seems to completely refuse to use Vanitas’s name— as a matter of fact, throughout this whole chapter, he never actually refers to another character by their own name. He calls Noé and Dominique “mes chatons”, refers to Jeanne as “hellfire witch”, and calls Vanitas “kin of the blue moon” and “heir to ‘blue’” [more on that second one later].
This insistence on not using anyone else’s name starts to paint a lot of the Teacher’s previous actions in a very different light. In chapter 14, Ruthven says that the Teacher “hated even saying [his] name”, to the point of crossing Ruthven’s name out of every book in his castle. Ruthven seems to take this as a sign of the Teacher hating him, but what if this is just normal behavior for our dear buddy Comte? We do see the Teacher occasionally call Noé “Noé”, but whenever he refers to someone by their actual name he seems to almost always speak in a possessive sense— “my dear Louis”, “my darling grandchildren”. His cute pet name for Domi and Noé is similarly possessive— “mes chatons”, my kittens. The Teacher seems to have an intense preoccupation with naming others— and not allowing others to name him.
This is (I think) why the Teacher refused to accept a title and then contrarily chose to include that same exact title as part of his current name. If the Teacher had accepted a title, that would mean someone else was allowed to “name” him— and to the Teacher, that’s completely unacceptable. But if the Teacher is the one who chooses that title, he’s the one naming himself, and that’s ok.
Weirdly, the Teacher only applies this rule to himself and doesn’t extend the same courtesy to anybody else— he’s furious when anyone refers to him by a name someone else gave him, “shapeless one���, but proceeds to almost exclusively refer to others by names he (or someone else) made up for them. “Hellfire Witch”, “Kin of the Blue Moon”, and “Shapeless One” are all quite similar, as they’re all sort of colloquial street names for Jeanne, Vanitas, and the Teacher, but for some reason the Teacher has massive objections to one and is totally fine with using the other two.
Why might this be?
My first thought is that it could be some kind of power/ respect thing. The Teacher sees calling someone their proper name as a sign of respect, and since he seems to solipsistically see himself as above others, he refuses to allow other characters to disrespect him while constantly disrespecting them. But that doesn’t seem quite right to me. The Teacher refers to Noé by his name during the chapter 9 flashback— why would he call Noé “Noé” and then call Luna (whom he seems to like a lot) “Blue”?
Maybe it’s something to do with the Teacher seeing others as possessions/ not quite the same as him? Maybe he sees others as inherently below him, as sentient items he can control? But that feels a bit off too… hmm….
Unfortunately, I can’t really think of another explanation for the Teacher’s preoccupation with names at the moment. I’m sure I’ll have more theories in the future, but for now I think I’m gonna have to leave it as a very weird character quirk we’ll likely learn more about in the future.
With that…. /cracks knuckles/… let’s get into that whole “Blue” thing.
The Teacher and Luna
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First and foremost! Comte here might be a very bad horrifying manipulative murderer who psychologically tortures all of our beloved protagonists on the daily, but his take here is based as fuck. Luna is 100% the most beautiful being in this world and I love them and if the Teacher manages to actually bring them back from the dead I will be very very happy (even though they will probably Not Be) and Luna is super pretty and I could talk about how pretty they are for multiple days—
So. There’s definitely something going on with Luna and the Teacher.
Ever since the very first chapter of VnC, the Teacher has shown a strong interest in the Blue Moon. He grins widely when a young Noé tells him that he thinks the blue moon is beautiful, even reaching over to pat his shoulder in a way that seems almost proud. He laughs delightedly when he sees Noé cheerfully tell Domi she shouldn’t be scared of the blue moon. All of the Teacher’s experiments seem to revolve around either Luna or Faustina (who, according to Noé, looks very similar to Luna. ngl I don’t see it but if Noé says so it’s probably relevant).
And, oddly enough, Luna, Faustina, and Comte all have a preoccupation with names.
Let’s put Faustina/Naenia and her interest in hunting for true names aside for now, and just focus on Luna and Comte.
For a while now, I’ve been kinda lowkey wondering if these two character act as foils for each other. They’re both parental figures to our dual protagonists and they’re both exceptionally powerful to the point of being legends in and of themselves. Luna is initially seen as dangerous and cruel, but seems to have been a truly kind and cheerful person. The Teacher, meanwhile, seems to act kind and cheerful but is actually incredibly dangerous and cruel beneath that exterior.
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This change in readers’ perception of the Teacher and Luna follows a similar timeframe— in chapter 1 we’re introduced to the Teacher as benevolent and Vanitas of the Blue Moon as evil, we slowly learn more about both parties and how their true natures don’t line up with these initial impressions, and then during the exposition universalle arc we finally get to see both of them as they truly are/ once were for the first time.
The Names Thing just further solidifies Comte and Luna as foils for me.
They both seem to have started out nameless/ without a name they were satisfied with. Comte frequently refuses to refer to others by the names they prefer; while Luna immediately calls people by whatever they want to be called, referring to Mikhail as “Misha” when he tells them the nickname. Comte insists on not accepting any name someone else gives him, to the point of turning down a title only to give himself that title years later as part of one of his names. Luna, meanwhile, seems to accept any name they’re given— “Vanitas”, “Vampire of the Blue Moon”, “Father”. The name Luna ultimately finds satisfying and chooses to keep is a name someone else accidentally gave them.
This now brings us back to that same question from before. Why do these specific characters have such an interest in names? Why are their approaches to names so completely different? Is it something to do with respect? With how one sees themselves in relation to others? With the very first line of the manga, where the Teacher tells Noé that his “true name” is his very being?
If I was gonna pull a wild guess out of a hat, my current guess would be that Luna and the Teacher don’t actually have true names. Maybe Comte is indeed exactly what he’s called by other vampires— a shapeless being, without a true name or known nature. Maybe this is why the two of them are so closely tied to the concept of names— they’re both searching for a metaphorical formula that shapes who they are. Maybe this is why Comte is so upset by the name “shapeless one”, maybe this is why Luna tries on any name others give them.
But that’s just a theory, a manga theory!! Let’s drag my levitating theorist self back on to solid ground and talk a lil more about the Teacher and Luna and what’s going on between them. (*winks in shipper*)
SO. We’ve established that Comte has some sort of connection with Luna. It’s very possible he gave his current form one blue eye just because he liked the color, but considering he also gave Murr this type of heterochromia, I can’t help but feel like it goes deeper than that. I think there’s a very real possibility that Luna and the Teacher have met before, and may have even worked together at some point.
Firstly, there’s the fact that the Teacher’s obsession with Luna feels like it goes a liiiiittle bit beyond the scope of “oh I saw this really pretty vampire from afar one day so I decided to spend the rest of my life studying them and working to bring them back from the dead”. Assuming his line in Chapter 55 is about Luna and not just him… liking the color blue… or talking about some other entity, it sounds like he probably spent a nonzero amount of time with Luna at some point in the past.
For a little while now I’ve had a running theory that the Teacher was the one who gave Moreau the Books of Vanitas, along with Luna’s blood. Comte and Luna working together in the past could explain why he managed to acquire those items. In a chapter 51 flashback, Luna states that they once tried to find out what they truly were, but now deeply regret it. Could they potentially be referring to a time when they worked together with Comte?
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With that, I think we can start piecing some puzzle pieces together about Luna and Comte and their past relationship. They likely worked together at some point, but Luna came to regret doing so. Luna never seems to have mentioned Comte to their adoptive kids, but the Teacher often told Noé the story of Vanitas of the Blue Moon and praised him when he said the blue moon was pretty. Luna died, and now the Teacher is trying to revive them.
Suffice to say, Comte seems absolutely infatuated with Luna.
The question is… does he actually feel any love or attachment to them? Or does he just want to possess them?
This is where we once again return to that delightful running theme throughout this post— names. Comte refers to Luna as “Blue”, probably a nickname stemming from “Vanitas of the Blue Moon”. But Comte’s probably been stalking Luna for a long while, watching them from afar while they traveled with the boys— does he really not know about their new chosen name? Not to mention, even if he doesn’t know about the name “Luna” for some reason, why does he have to be contrary and call them “Blue” rather than the usual “Vanitas”?
I doubt Luna minded this name, just like they didn’t mind “Vanitas” or “Father”, but it starts to raise red flags in my brain when it comes out of the mouth of the guy who constantly refuses to call others by their actual names and frequently refers to people in a possessive sense. It could be an affectionate nickname, but it could also be yet another sort of power/ respect/ possession thing. He also doesn’t refer to Luna as a person or a being or a vampire, he calls them the most beautiful “creature” in the world. It’s sus. It’s all very sus.
In addition to this! Even if Comte truly does feel something resembling “love” for Luna, there’s another interesting little knot to this tangled sort of love. Comte’s actions towards Luna feel remarkably and amusingly similar to the way his protégée acts around Luna’s adoptive kid.
(We’ve seen something else like this before, haven’t we? A protégée taking on a lot of the qualities of the vampire that raised them?)
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Throughout VnC, Noé and Vanitas both have a bad habit of sacrificing themselves to save each other without putting any thought into how this will affect the other party. In Vanitas’s case, this is largely driven by his own self hatred and belief that he is inferior to or worth less than others.
And in Noé’s case, this is primarily driven by selfishness.
Noé is a selfish character. He loves Vanitas (whether this is platonic or romantic is largely irrelevant to this post so take it either way), and he doesn’t want Vanitas to get hurt. Seeing Vanitas upset makes Noé angry. And since Noé is selfish, if he has to do something to protect Vanitas that goes against what Vanitas wants (@/ slashing Mikhail in the previous chapter), he will do it. “I will never set you free” is, in context, a very moving statement, but looking at the line itself on its lonesome it’s practically scary.
I think, just like Jean-Jacques’s jealousy was learned from Chloé, Noé’s selfishness is something he learned from Comte.
With this I think we can start to parse out a little bit of what’s going on with Comte and Luna. I highly doubt Luna wants to be brought back from the dead— especially not if that process involves Comte manipulating and torturing a group of innocent randos and Luna’s adoptive kids. But Comte wants to bring Luna back anyways, and he’ll do whatever he needs to do to make it happen— because Comte, like Noé, is selfish.
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This is the section for fun observations that don’t really fit anywhere else in this meta!
Firstly, the Teacher seems to have to reveal his true “face” in order to manipulate the world formula. The image of his eyes changing color as he slips out of his ordinary form and into his monstrous one is horrifying and I love it, as is his insane amount of power— he seems to literally tear open a portal in the world and walk through it, something on a completely different scale from what we’ve seen so far in the manga.
Interestingly, though, the tendrils surrounding Teacher’s eldritch horror form look completely different from the ones we saw back in chapter 9. They’re actually eerily similar to Ruthven’s black flames, which is… very concerning, but I’m convincing myself it’s just something he taught himself how to do and not an indication of anything else nope nope nope noep—
I do indeed have more things to say about the Teacher, but!!! Those thoughts will be left for part two of this post. With that I think we’ve finally reached…
not the end! (but in conclusion,)
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It’s Christmas Eve. I just spent the past three hours losing my mind over a manga character.
I have no regrets.
If you made it this far, holy shit thank you so much for reading this post. Please take everything here with a massive grain of salt— this is all just my interpretation of the manga so far and will likely be proven completely wrong as we learn more about Comte and Luna in the future. If you’d like, please tune in for Part 2, coming soon to a vnc tag near you (hopefully I can get it written today but uhh…. hmm…. various preexisting conditions may get in the way of that), which will include my thoughts on Vanitas, Noé, and basically any part of the chapter I didn’t go over in this post (including, rather upsettingly, yet more Teacher).
Thanks again for reading, and happy holidays!
update: here’s a link to part 2..!
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