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i’m obsessed with the idea of cult leader!geto pining for a reader who just fucking hates him ….... maybe it’s someone from his past that he left behind when he defected, maybe they’re bitter and spiteful and all they do is hiss and bite but he’s so smitten. you can do no wrong in his eyes. he deserves the curses and anger, he knows, and he receives them with a smile and eyes full of hearts. he gets giddy when you scowl at him. he just thinks you’re love personified. he’s so gentle and patient that it’s infuriating because nothing you do or say will get him to bite back — it’s like you’re a kitten gnawing at his fist but he does nothing but coo at you even when you draw blood
#SAVE ME MAN CAPABLE OF IMMENSE CRUELTY WHO TURNS INTO A PUPPY IN YOUR PRESENCE…. SAVE ME……….#im thinking abt a kind of sort of sequel to there was no place in nature we could meet….#where reader DOES go with geto and join his cult but they’re still soooo bitter and hateful. there’s so much anger left#and geto is just endlessly patient he’ll wait as long as it takes for them to melt into his embrace again…..#doesnt even mind if they scratch at him or tell him to fuck off he’s in LOVE#im obsessed w cult leader geto and the idea of him being a puppydog w his s/o alone it’s canon to me#ari noises ✩#geto x reader#<- clout chaser moment I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO FIND THIS AGAIN IF I WRITE SMTH ON IT… :’3#thinking abt him always <33 my silliest little mass murderer
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Translating 3D into 2D is hard so I've been studying his face and I can't help loving the range Nathaniel has. Incoming rant about his design.
Might have been a quirk of the old style or his model maybe being among the cheap ones, but even then, Nathaniel really seems to be one to have a perpetual resting bitch face in the show, along with bombastic side eyes and killer gazes. Very fitting for the quiet, shy, and insecure art kid who sports a notable emo bang and thinks everyone is secretly mocking him.
However when he is happy or excited he REALLY lights up, showing how cute he can be.
I do also think that the new style, as much as it was an improvement, also gave him a major shift in his vibe, becoming almost a different character that looks much, much softer, and rounder. (One could argue this is due him becoming a more happy and open person overall, thanks to finally making better friends with everyone, and meeting Marc). I'm still glad that he still has his killer gazes when it's due, tho!
Differences between both models are subtle, but made a world of difference, specially his nose, much more angular, thin and pointy in the old model, but more round and wide in the new one, and it really changes the way his character is perceived. Overall, it seems like he finally was fed because he looks more meaty in the face. (And he was given freckles, cute!!!)
Ironically, this makes him look younger than his old self! At least to me, now he looks more closer to a pre-teen, whereas the old model def had that teen look to him (the wardrobe change is also highly responsible, as a prep look will always look more mature than overalls with splashes of paint). And again, him looking younger is ironic, considering he seemed to have a growth spurt between season 5 and 6, lol.
Interestingly, refining him to look younger and more cute, makes it so Caprikid, who has a strong presence and frame, looks completely like a different person. (which wasn't the case as much with old Nath and Caprikid)
However, this wasn't a post meant to delve on Caprikid, so I'll stop it here.
As a last fun fact, I like how there is a conscious effort to disguise his identity, as 98% of his freckles get covered when he puts on the mask! (Only a few on his nose are visible)
Here ends my rant about Nathaniel Kurtzberg's design, character that has taken over my brain like a parasite for the last 6 days
#nathaniel kurtzberg#miraculous ladybug#character design#analysis#not art#ig#not art but it kind of is#everytime theres a redhead character im like#is anybody gonna get obsessed with them#and dont wait for answer#mostly an excuse to make a collage of nathaniel#long post#kinda
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mods r asleep post humanized 4x
finished catching up on tpot it was peakkkkkk but i am so scared of one. also working on little clay and felt dolls of 4 x and 2
#bfb#battle for bfdi#tpot#4x#bfb 4x#bfb fourx#four bfb#4 bfb#bfb 4#bfb four#guys do u put bfb before or after the character#x bfb#bfb x#four tpot#4 tpot#x tpot#four in tpot12 saying “nope .... see ya” was so high pitched and quiet WHAT was going on with him. the eye was so funny tho giggled#x with freckles bc of his interest in gardening. 4 with blue patches bc he was the desert and i want to note that#i love the designs i made for them theyre so cute 2 me#4s hair is so hard to draw tho. i cant make it look right#wait ive literally been thinking so much about character comparisons i have to mention it#4 is so obviously alien. he acts so super odd and he appears so unnerving. i feel like he always has wider eyes/smaller pupils#hes always so STARING at things. he is so obviously alien (bc he literally is in this world i think)#2 is also an alien. its in his name AlgebrALIEN. but he is so much more human im obsessed with him#like he laughs so much more he has much closer friendships with the contestants he even makes huge efforts to assist in fixing interpersona#problems and stuff. he is so kind and compassionate and can be super comforting. he is so incredibly human despite being an alien#THTA IS SOOO INTERESITNG AND FUN 2 ME !!!!!!!!!! 4 has loved bfdi and the idea of hosting for years and his goal is to Host but 2s is more#in line with making a point he is what he is bc he wants to be like that. hes a host bc he decided to be not bc someone else told him to#also the recent robot flower arc and the parallels im drawing between her and bot (iii).#bots “i will never be who you want me to be/who you built me as” vs robo flowers “i have to be who you want me to be/who you built me as”
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well, almost 20 years late, but i’ve finally started prison break and my god, i get it. i really do.
#LIKE#YALL#IM OBSESSED#also michael scofield?#i need that man#desperately#he’s so beautiful and tragic and intelligent#and my goodness he’s so kind#HES LITERALLY PERFECT HELLO#the first season is so insane#probably one of the best first seasons i’ve ever seen#i’m waiting for midterms to finish before i start season 2#my self control >>>#but yeah#love the show#love the characters#love sucre sm he’s my bro#prison break#michael scofield#hana’s.trash!
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Remember that even if I am not currently acting obsessed with them, that does not mean I am not obsessed with them
#claiming to be sane#but im just asymptomatic#can we kiss#no?#😔#i know 😔#I'll just have to wait until i fall asleep#i need you to take a good long look at these images#like ten minutes each#and that's a pretty good idea of what my brain is like in any given moment#the stupendium#im so obsessed#i might need help#i kind of dont want it ..#i might need therapy#<- i do want this#ive been thinking about this for a while#talking with my therapist about stupes#but i haven't had a session in the last few months#anyway mmmmm they
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if you're ever playing a game on your phone and you get one of those merge game ads and wonder "who's playing all these stupid merge games??" its me. i am. and ill play it obsessively for weeks then never touch it again eventually deleting it off my phone until i find the next one
#currently obsessed with one called starbrew cafe and im actually like kinda hooked by the story 😭#im sad i cant actually decorate anything like you usually can in these kind of games but it has a fun little plot#my screentime is so scary bc ill have it open while im doing stuff on my computer#loading screen in video game on my computer? guess ill playing video game on my phone while i wait <- brain rotted to the core
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copying @violettehoneybee and drawing jean w a dog :)



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#aftg#my art#all for the game#jean moreau#art#digital art#jean aftg#i just want him to be happy and also to have a dog#this is crazy behavior bc im scared of dogs#anyways hi aftg fandom long time no see#all for the game fanart#tsc#the sunshine court#jean yves moreau#im obsessed with this sad french man#he kind of feels like a fitting first day of pride post tbh#oh my god WAIT i have an ide hold on
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how it feels to watch arcane for the animation and story but then hear the absolutely insane soundtrack
#Like how are 99% of the songs so good#like half the music on the soundtracks are not the kind of songs I would normally like#but for some reason because I associate them with arcane#im obsessed#sucker is so so good I can't wait for the rest of the soundtrack#arcane#league of legends#arcane league of legends#arcane season two#arcane music
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the junhun brainworms are so bad rn yall i dont think im gonna make it
#junhun#rn im thinking about jun-ho obsessively trying to find out as much about gi-hun as he possibly can in the short time span they r together#not an easy task btw gi-hun is being soo avoidant#anyway i am Thinking about jun-ho asking him about what he was like before. not as a kid necessarily just#his life from before the games#obviously thats too raw of a wound for gi-hun to even CONSIDER showing to jun-ho so he doesnt really Want to#but jun-ho is nothing if not a freak who hates listening to what people tell him to do tho#he makes his way to gi-huns old place (probably remembering it from when he caught gi-hun there years ago in s1) and does what he does best#(breaking and entering)#its dusty and dark and clearly not lived in at the current moment#but its also...untouched#my headcanon is that gi-hun still owns the property he and his mother lived on but he just#couldnt live there anymore#it was just too much#spent maybe a week or two completely catatonic waiting to die in bed in the house and then he just Left#so he was just living on the streets and in hotels sometimes for that year after the games#so that house is just#a time capsule honestly#jun-ho walks through it and is taken back to three years ago#he sees pictures of gi-hun and a little girl on the wall. does he have a daughter?#she has his nose. his smile.#jun-ho was excited to learn more about gi-hun but something is kind of digging at him now i think#just#this heaviness.#hes standing in the house of a man who no longer exists#has jun-ho reallyyy thinking about how the games changed both of them#and i think it strengthens his resolve to want to Know gi-hun even more now#jun-ho so passionately refuses to regret anything about knowing gi-hun#not art#yapping tag
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Drawing the messiest sketches is actually so good for my brain
#my art#fate grand order#minamoto no tametomo#baobhan sith#barghest#i am in fact adding tametomo to lb6 thats what the first image is about#adding to or replacing tristan tbh#im sorry to tristan fans btw but tametomo would 100% survive against barghest#i love tristan btw but tametomo's literally stronger#i imagine he's summoned human (because of the lack of technology and the way it just stopped working while in lb6#so i decided to make him human because 1. i like to draw people and 2. i didnt want to find an explanation as to why he functioned HOWEVER#i do have one as to why he Would function even tho any other technology doesnt. kind of.#anyway#unimportant#he WILL be trying to snipe morgan from the other side of britain because just as ushiwaka has an obsession with decapitation#tametomo has an obsession with sniping individuals#he will also try and probably hit Melusine at least Once in the middle of the air. fucking shoots her down like a fcking. soemthing#he Will be dying because thats what characters who are in lb6 do#i just dont know when#i havent actually thought a lot about this apart from how much sniping they will make him do#PLUS LIKE#he requires a lot of mana to spam his NP but like isnt faerie britain FULL of mana? tametomo would be a BEAST#so i need to find limitations#also need to find moments on when he would be interacting with baobhan and be ga- wait he's a man and baobhan a woman that aint gay....#so anyway they're gay--#straight yuri ive said#im a lesbian LEAVE ME ALONE!!!#i can DO THIS im ALLOWED im GAY#i LOVE WOMEN!!!!#i think i need to mix the humanness with the robotness. either always or eventually or something up
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Bettejoan plsssss 👉👈
thanks!!! ehjbfhefh okay. no summary on this one lol. i don't typically write rpf not like out of judgment or anything (rpf is fine!) but bc it feels like. so much harder/so much "she would not fucking say that" and like um as i've mentioned the lack of historical consistencies for bette and joan makes me feel crazyyyyyyy. also in truth, bettejoan fic should be like predominantly insults and hate sex and the most insane public comments known to man and that just isn't really my strong suit sadly!!! all this to say an effort has been made!!
“I can’t stand you,” Bette grits out, though she makes no move to step away.
“I'm not asking you to stand me, Bette," Joan says breathily. "I'm asking if you'll fuck me." Bette places a hand, firm, on the flat of Joan’s chest, and Joan grins in something like victory, until Bette pushes her back forcefully.
“God, you're even more easy and desperate than I realized." It lacks some of it's usual bite, because she's clearly a bit flustered by the directness and trying hard not to show it. Still, Joan’s face hardens.
“Easy and desperate?” she asks, voice cold, and Bette pretends she doesn’t somehow know that that’s her response to the actual anger and hurt beneath it. “I’ve always admired your originality with your insults, darling. You sure know how to make a girl feel special.”
“Only if she is,” Bette retorts. “I’m honest. And you're as common as they come.”
“Is that why you make such a point to avoid me? Why you insult me publicly given any possible chance? Why you bring me up just to get in a dig or two when I’m completely irrelevant. Maybe I’m too obvious in my appeals, but you’re hardly subtle, and if you haven’t noticed that, you’re crazy. Honest," she says with a scoff.
Joan waits for a rebuttal that somehow doesn’t come.
“I know you don’t like me, but you sure talk about me a lot. I bet you think about me a lot.” She pauses. “I think about you a lot,” she adds, voice lower.
“That much is obvious,” Bette quips, rolling her eyes. Joan takes the lack of outright denial as some kind of progress.
“I’ve thought about it, you know, and I never could decide if I thought you would have a need to be in control in the bedroom, like you seem to have everywhere else, or if there’s where you’d want to surrender it,” Joan says, mock casually. Bette flushes. The funny thing is that Bette’s never able to figure it out either, not in any way that makes sense. And she sort of hates that Joan has come to the same conclusion. Or lack thereof. She feels horribly, shamefully vulnerable under Joan's discerning gaze.
“What’s your point?” she huffs out, reaching into a pocket for a pack of cigarettes and a lighter, but Joan beats her to the latter, quickly lighting a match and holding it up to the cigarette Bette places between her own lips. She meets Joan’s heavy gaze as she inhales, and quickly looks away.
Joan puts out the match. “My point, darling, is that perhaps I tried the wrong approach. Maybe instead I should ask if I can fuck you.”
Bette laughs.
“What’s funny?”
“The fact that you think that your asinine question made you sound submissive. You may play it from time to time, but you’ve never sold it, not to me. You're not good enough to."
“Do you want me to be submissive? You’re right that it’s hardly the most natural thing for me, but you’d be surprised what the right person can get from me,” she says, perching on Bette’s makeup table carefully and doing her best to look seductive. Bette may not give Joan a lot of credit for her acting, but alluring is one thing she's quite good at playing.
Bette tries very hard to be unaffected, to not let her eyes follow a path from Joan’s long legs all the way up to her almost pleading eyes, to not picture it, Joan taking orders from her. Joan completely at her mercy. She tries not to be enticed by it, tries to tell herself it would only be for some sort of revenge, some way to humiliate her, to hurt her. And yet, there's a strange sort of disappointment as the fantasy seems to solidify. Not disgust, not even really shame, though she's sure that will follow. Disappointment. And something seems, horribly, to click.
Joan picks up on it, of course. “Bette,” she starts, and Bette doesn’t let her finish. She surges forward, letting one hand press into Joan’s thigh to brace herself and keep Joan against the table, and bringing the other to Joan’s jaw to crash their lips together. Joan tenses for a beat in surprise, but then clutches at Bette’s back, kissing her back fervently. “So that is what you want?”
“No,” she says bluntly, and kisses her again working slowly towards her neck.
“I don’t—“
Bette twirls a strand of Joan’s hair around her finger and tugs, and Joan gasps, her head falling back. “Fight back,” Bette says, and even she isn’t sure if it’s a command or a plea. Either way, Joan takes it.
“Oh,” Joan says, pulling against Bette’s hold to bring her head back up and meet Bette’s gaze. “With pleasure, darling."
#anyyyywayyyyssssss yeah uh its hard for me to write them. but you know i sure do think about them!!! its just like a tangled mess of#'oh they were soooooo weird about and obsessed with each other and joan did want to fuck her so bad it made her look stupid.'#or at least i choose to believe that. but like the main thing for me with them that i tried to kind of convey here#well actually its a few things. 1. bette being mean to joan all the time is kind of like the proverbial pulling on pigtails or whatever#and on some level joan is aware of that (and likes it) 2. some significant portion of joans attraction to bette comes from her relative#unattainability and also her bitchiness. 3. bette has said some very interesting things about power dynamics in her relationships#i think the quote i am thinking of is 'I had to remain in charge; and when the man allowed it; I lost all respect for him' which is. well#4. joan was kind of a freak but perhaps more than that she wanted to be seductive and desirable like yes she could be very i suppose#controlling or domineering or whatever by many accounts but she also very much reads as someone who would particularly with regards to sex#try to mold herself to fit someone else's needs/desires and like be what they wanted and like i could pathologize the hell out of this#but none of it would have any legitimacy (as if anything else im saying does)#5. all of this combines into a fascinating and compelling cocktail unfortunately i don't a shaker (metaphorically)#asks#answered#my writing#tvmilfs#old hollywood#now... wait how many tags does it take to stop counting for main tags this doesnt need to be in those... well idk so we will see#bette davis#joan crawford
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did havers it is our moral duty to become obsessed with drawing our headmates
#this particular alter im obsessed with drawing because their appearance in constantly in flux#i think its a weird kind of sliding scale subsystem thing but i cant be sure#also a very hard individual to speak about. no name no pronouns and i think gets a kick of out how hard it is to talk ab them lol#anyway these are just the recents i think ive got some old ass drawings of this guy from last year but. im not looking around for those#its fun to dig around on pinterest for reference photos to use as practice#.txt#sys#mine#omg wait the last one says 'pov you crack open your pc tower and find these two on their smoke break in there'#n it's my two techie headmates#headmate art#my images
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so earlier this year I got it in my head that i wanted to pick a few new anime each season to try to watch (and beforehand I'd read the original work it was based on, if applicable)
for Spring I looked through the upcoming list, pulled out a couple interesting titles, read the first couple chapters of a few manga and eliminated them from my list, and ended up with 2:
Lazarus (original series, from the makers of Cowboy Bebop)
Your Forma (originally a light novel. I dropped this after five episodes or so because it feels like its not hitting what I enjoyed about the original books, but I did enjoy the original books so I plan to keep reading them)
For Summer I've been looking at the upcoming lists and doing the same, and so far I've come up with 4:
Gachiakuta (Animated by Bones, this is giving me classic Shounen Jump hero vibes. I've read the first few chapters and I think I might try just watching it without reading more. Hero gets exiled to the pit where everyone dumps their trash, discovers he has the ability to animate discarded objects. It seems to be tackling sustainability issues with a fantasy/action hero angle and obligatory animism, and I'm very about that vibe.)
The Summer Hikaru Died (I started reading this on my lunch break and I read the first two volumes just today. Definitely reading the whole thing, and I hope the show holds up to the manga quality. A tragic horror romance, 'came back wrong' story where the thing that came back isn't the boy who disappeared in the first place. Canonically queer, grappling with the grief of a loved one's death while some Thing is pretending to be them every day.)
Nyaight of the Living Cat (I actually haven't read this one yet. Another horror, but kind of a horror parody. A pandemic is spreading, turning everyone who touches a cat into a cat. Honestly don't know what else I even need to know of course I'm going to try watching this)
Captivated. By You (This one really surprised me, and I do have manga caps in the works! Literally just a high school slice of life anthology, but the writing is so down to earth and earnest, and the art style is so unique and good! Honestly the thing I'm least looking forward to is seeing this redone in generic anime artwork, tbh, but I'll watch it nonetheless. They're doing a half-season along with another work by the same author which I've got to hunt down now, Let's Go Karaoke)
#and at this point I feel pretty good about all four so I'm officially sharing my list lol#gachiakuta frankly kind of feels to me like a shounen version of tokyo mew mew yknow#like tmm is environmentalism packaged as a magical girls story for girls#and gachiakuta feels like it will be a bit of an environmentalism packaged for boys. and i'm here for it lol#nyaight i do want to at least read a little bit of in case the first couple chapters dont vibe with me#the summer hikaru died.... has a chokehold on me right now so i gotta read it slowly so i dont get too obsessed lol#captivated by you i ALSO got surprised obsessed with but its only one volume so thats easy to handle lol#and then i was like wait how are they doing a whole season of a one-volume anthology#and it turns out yeah they're not doing that. but now ive got to track down this over story because#i REALLY like what this author is doing and I want to see everything else she's done#anyway the short version of why im even doing this to begin with it#is i didnt get into delicious in dungeon until it got bit on tumblr and then i read the manga and its REALLY good#and i was feeling like. im missing out on these really good stories when i wait for them to get popular?#theres too many manga to try to read everything good and too many anime to watch everything good#but if i give myself these specific parameters i might find new things i enjoy. and i have!
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IT WHO WAITS BEYOND THE WINDOW
#howling#art tag#ive brought this guy up maybe twice. it has no name. 'it who waits' is one of its many titles#im not going to elaborate on it very much but i might be drawing it more often because im kind of obsessed whit its whole deal rn#(im not telling you its deal btw. thats for me to know and you to find out)
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Hi, sorry for bothering you and feel completely free not to answer this if you don't want to or aren't interested in it anymore, but I just really like your Devil's Carnival AU and I'd love to know more about it so dropping some questions here 👀 sorry if they're too many!
1. How do you imagine Charlie's and Vaggie's relationship developing? They obviously meet in "After the fall", right after Vaggie's fall from grace, but when did they start dating? How did it happen? Since in canon one of the things Vaggie loves about Charlie is her kindness and compassion towards sinners, how does that translate into this AU, where Charlie is less sunshine-y?
2. Does your idea involve Lute being more like Cora or like the Agent? With this I mean whether she has feelings for Vaggie which she hides because they're "inappropriate and illegal" or if she's courting Vaggie because Adam asked her to as a way to expose Vaggie while she's internally praying for her not to do something stupid and prove Adam right. I think you kind of explained it already in your other post but I didn't fully get it 🥲
3. Slightly related to the previous one but how does Vaggie fall? Is it for the same reasons as June?
4. Have you thought of roles for characters like Husk, Alastor or Niffty?
5. What do you think would happen in this AU in a hypothetical 3rd movie?
Your art style is so beautiful btw! You're such a talented artist :)
You are literally doing the opposite of bothering me don't worry I got so excited seeing this ask in my inbox you have no idea fsgsghskbds i have everything under read more bc it turned out long but thank you so much for the compliment on my art and also for this ask !!!
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More or less vaggie and charlie getting together is closer to how it happened in hazbin hotel since i feel like part of it is the similarities of vaggie meeting charlie immediately after her fall and charlie still being kind and helping her which is the start of their connection, and overtime they grow closer and end up falling in love. I do like to think it did take them a while to get together but it was over the course of getting to know one another and their passions/dreams/ect that they began to truly understand who the other was and fall for them.
A little side note off of that which is relevant to understanding a less sunshiny charlie and how it translates to chaggie; with this particular role for charlie it has her mirroring aspects of both of her parents by design, but her character motivations are still very rooted in the fact that she is kind and believes in the good of sinners, heaven has just pushed her too far. Like even tho she's technically fulfilling lucifer's role from the devil's carnival, in doing so she's bearing more similarities to lilith's role in hell in hazbin in that she empowers sinners with her voice (in this case particularly any who've fallen from heaven since it seems like in the devil's carnival this was an occurrence that happened multiple times). And that kind of motivates her disdain for heaven to see how easily they cast out those who don't live up to their standards + with the obvious hypocrisy in how adam acts it makes her more disillusioned with the whole system altogether that heaven stands for and perpetuates (like lucifer hazbin hotel), which is what results in her saying 'fuck it' and just send sinners up there.
originally i was thinking the first movie didn't quite fit for charlie in lucifer's role because it does seem kind of cruel the way the sinners are tormented and it felt like it deviated from charlie's character, but i changed my mind after seeing the second bc i think it could read as a misguided attempt at redemption playing by heaven's rules of shunning what's perceived as sin (which we do see charlie try to do in the actual show) rather than her more trust exercises/team building route she goes for in hazbin. Like for charlie i think she'd genuinely think she's helping to try and get each of them to realize what sin they've committed for redemption's sake but hits her breaking point with heaven by the end. Probably from a mix of not fully believing some of the sins committed warrant eternal damnation (I feel like angel in particular with this one is especially sad because its unclear whether or not tamara ever does get sent to heaven/redeemed?) and being pissed at how hypocritical adam is by engaging in the same sins he's damning people to hell for. Charlie sending trains of sinners up isnt just a passive aggressive thing to do to heaven to shun her role as their torturer but also a statement that sinners and winners are one in the same-like she's completely giving up on trying for redemption within heaven's rules and just showing them that if they continue with this hypocrisy and cruelty, redemption is unnecessary bc these sinners fit right in as flawed as they are. I think this would also make Adam's damage control before 'bells of black sunday' especially insulting to charlie as well.
And vaggie sees that compassion in charlie when they first meet and she is kind to her in her lowest point, but realizes how much deeper it goes the more they get to know one another. In this AU also charlie knew from the beginning that vaggie was a former exorcist, but finding out why she fell was probably something that happened later on. (I do think the idea of them first starting to spend more time together by reading Aesop's fables to one another would be really cute too, like charlie likely reads stories to most new sinners to help with the transition to hell but vaggie shows so much genuine interest that it becomes a routine for them)
(Another side note; I think a scene in the actual film which supports a well intentioned charlie and works well for her character is the one with the devil and the ticket keeper towards the end of the second movie when the ticket keeper confronts lucifer about his plan. Like its vox yelling at charlie that heaven will try to fuck them up because of what she's doing, and him saying that he is the one who'll be standing on the tracks to push her out of the way, but charlie getting angry at this and saying she would never let him do that and that she will be on the tracks with him, and then she tells him her plan finally. I think this scene works well because it not only shows charlie's devotion to her ideas and to those she cares about, but also the disconnect between her intentions and her actions that could allow for the first movie's plot of torturing sinners to be born out of a want to help them. Because in this case she does have a well thought out plan and everything is done with intent, but vaggie is the only one who really knows this so to vox it seems like shes being reckless and impulsive due to how she's been acting, and heaven also isn't really understanding the message in the way she wanted.)
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With Lute and vaggie i think i have a clearer idea of what's going on now than when i first made the post in summary because i think lutes role is dependent on if we're talking in the plot or if we're talking in relation to vaggie. I think adam probably still wanted her to get closer to Vaggie and prove she wasn't worthy of heaven/it was a test of loyalty for lute to betray her but the feelings between them that developed were ones that Lute definitely deemed to be 'inappropriate and illegal'. I think they probably could have had their romantic moments between them still in secret but after getting found out and confronted by the watchword Lute realized because she had fallen for vaggie she was resigned to letting vaggie fall so she wouldn't have to deal with the fact that she loved her or get caught having a secret relationship with her. Like externally they present similarly to the agent and june with their respective roles in the narrative, but in terms of who they are to one another it's was closer to what cora and june had going on.
With their plot as well I feel like some of the heaven caste system needs to be examined/adjusted so it better fits them, but I haven't had the time to dig into it as it exists in the film enough that I feel comfortable deconstructing and reconstructing it just yet. Definitely working on it though !
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And going off of this I think when vaggie fell Lute took the opportunity to make it look like she had acted calculated and callously this whole time as to maintain adam's respect as well as prove her loyalty, when in reality that was very much not the case and she did really care for vaggie at one point but forced herself to hate her because of what loving her would mean. I also think vaggie's fall would be something tied to kindness rather than ambition because it follows more closely to what happened in hazbin and also would probably endear her to charlie more when she finds out (and make her angrier at heaven), but Im also not 100% sure what that would look like in terms of how it plays out in the film.
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So I have thought a bit of nifty/alastor/husk though they are more unsure in who they'd be. I am kind of stuck on the idea of Alastor as the publicist in his more positive sense because I think it fits and i think it'd be cool to incorporate more physical radio aspects into his design in the same way that the publicist has the horn attached at his ear (plus mimzy can be there too as one of the songbirds). I do also like the idea of him playing the role of the watchword to some extent (just keeping it solely to radio) bc he loves drama. Partly because I think it fits to let him be in heaven but still be an absolute menace to the general public, and partly because i think its funny to keep Al and Vox separated like toddlers who will start a fight with one another if left alone for too long. I had thought about having vox as the watchword and alastor as the publicist, but I kind of like the 'charlie works with the vees' plot a bit too much to separate vox from them. With Husk and Niffty I go back and forth on who they'd play, partly bc when i was originally brainstorming this au with a friend we thought husk could be the hobo clown but that was also when we were thinking Alastor as Lucifer's role instead of charlie (and this was before I had watched the second movie so the cast overall was very different) so im not entirely sure. If we're going with carnie roles for them i think husk as the hobo clown or the magician i can live with and niffty as one of the bayonets maybe. But having Alastor in heaven kind of throws off the dynamic so im unsure fully where to put them.
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The idea of what would happen in a third movie is SO INTERESTING and I hadn't even thought about it. I think part of this AU deviates from the movie to be more chaggie focussed so I imagine a third movie could focus more on their relationship as well, maybe even delving into them bonding over their shared plan to overthrow heaven and we'd get to see that development of the plan/their relationship in the flashbacks with the present being them actually enacting their plan. Like they are a power couple and share each other's passion, and theyre really the only 2 who actually know what the plan is. I think by this point vox would have been told the plan by charlie in the previous movie so he would have to also help get the carnies organized and on board. There'd also have to be some scenes in heaven with Adam losing it as his control of heaven falters, plus finding out whats going on with the sinners sent to heaven. Really theres just a ton of possibilities since the actual third movie was never made.
#This whole AU kind of started because I was listening to 'grace for sale' and was like 'There has got to be a way this works with hazbin'#and that spiralled into talking with a friend about it until we figured bits and pieces out#and then I watched the second movie and at that point was like 'ok wait hold on a second-'#and then it was just an excuse to redraw screenshots from the movie since im obsessed with the way they do lighting#but it spiralled into a full blown au bc i have brainrot#and I will forever be tweaking it and analyzing it now bc its so fun and the more i talk to others about it the more developed it gets#its lasting as long as this special interest lasts which based on my track record will be comically long#also tumblr user chaggiehearts i hope you know i read and cherish all of the tags you put on the art when you reblogged it and part of this#ask was easy to answer bc i had already typed up some of the responses to what you put in the tags to message you about acuacjcfj#so if you'd ever want to discuss more my DMs are always open asfjidcfjn#the devil's carnival au#the devils carnival#hazbin hotel#chaggie#fallenwings
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obsessed with the trope of when two characters are in a relationship that’s always being haunted by a secret third character. when they both only entered the relationship because of how the third character fundamentally changed them both in ways that they will never recover from and they just need someone else who understands this new version of themselves that no one else will ever comprehend. and i am especially obsessed with when the third character is dead and gone and the only reason the remaining two are together is to seek solace in each other. because they’re the only ones who care enough to take the time to commemorate and remember the third. a relationship built on pure grief and loneliness and mutual understanding with the only love for each other being for when they can see traces of the third person in each other. when they’ve both made each other the third character’s mausoleums and take turns viewing each other like an incomplete tapestry of every bit of personhood that they were able to save and preserve of the third character instead of people in their own right. and. yes. the themes you get it
#this is about gideon nav and ianthe tridentarius#the people must know that i am obsessed with the locked tomb#like im sorry but i will never see any gideon ianthe interaction as being without harrow because everything between them is about harrow#and every interaction between them WILL continue to be about harrow in alecto the ninth john willing#harrowhark nonagesimus U WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS#and okay on a very unserious note this is also kind of about that one iwaizumi atsumu fic i read where they were both hung up about oikawa#but it’s about lesbians first and foremost and the locked tomb#insert that one ‘haikyuu fans always wanna be a part of everything tweet’ 😔😔😔#WAIT THIS IS ALSO ABT GIDEON AND NONA TOO
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