#watchmen spoilers

[slenderverse]

A little late BUT I just finished reading watchmen for the first time a week or so ago. What are your thoughts on the ending of the comics? Have you seen the show and did you like it?

u are never late in fact ur the first person whos asked me. thank u pls tell me ur thoughts on the comic i love thoughts :)

(comic spoilers bc i think i have mutuals who r currently reading it)

i will literally never fully understand the choice of the squid ending for watchmen. and i will always be sitting there going “jesus christ that came out of left field. maybe the movie was right when changing the ending” one moment then the next settle on “yeah ok thats fine.”

i do like the bitter climax with the fact that they couldn’t stop adrian. it’s realistic, honestly, and any sort of happy conclusion would’ve just felt tonally off. i don’ttttt like dan and laurie in the ending though (AGAIN THE MOVIE WAS RIGHT HAVING DAN WITNESS RORSCHACH’S DEATH AND NOBODY CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE. LAURIE AND DAN DIDNT NEED TO FUCK BY A POOL) & i just. i will never be free from blonde mustache civilian dan it haunts me.

(tidbit aside. hilarious to me in doomsday clock dan and laurie have a daughter who is a natural bright blonde despite nobody in her family actually BEING blonde)

i’ve watched the show. as a white person i cannot fully speak on the race politics that were trying to be established during it. there are some weird fucking moments though in relation to it that can easily sour a generally well-produced and well-acted show.

writing is shit though. it’s so interesting in the beginning of the series but then they feel the need to have 20 plottwists that, while MAKING SENSE, do NOT need to be there. also adrian’s b plot is hysterical and awful. i love seeing him be fucking insane and goofy but it is so tonally different from the rest of the show it feels exactly like how the squid ending does to me.

good casting though 👍 especially better than the movie. like yeah. that’s what laurie would look like at that age. probably what she’d act like too. maybe not part of the FUCKING FBI but it’s explained so???

my favorite full circle moment though is that they filmed the climax of the series in my small hometown shopping square. which made me scream when i saw it.

[deadguydeathmatch]

Elimination Round 1: Poll 16

[l-e-g-i-o-n-losh]

Watched the Watchmen movie (ha). I suppose it's about as good a film adaptation as can be expected but the comic is vastly better. I really really didn't like the casting for Ozymandias, they played him like Lysanderoth when the whole point of him is that he did not change one bit from the hero he (and everyone) thought he was, he just changed the stakes. Mars was not done justice at all, especially Laurie's epiphany. I want to like how Dan mourned Rorschach, but I don't. I feel like him dying alone and rejected in the snow is a direct and intentional parallel to the Comedian dying alone and rejected in the gutter and having Dan as witness undercuts the theme even though it emphasizes their relationship. Anyways I'm going to rotate this in my brain for 300 years thanks.

[a2zillustration]

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[myowndesertplaces]

It's fascinating how Ashton is so desperate for legacy and a connection to their past, but they completely ignore the lessons of their own history.

[undead-knick-knack]

Fearne is going to be a problem :)

[psudopod]

Enjoying bake-off season 14 so far! 😅

[pennamesmith]

Awright looks like we’ve still got a few hours before The Star Beast goes live so in the meantime here are some of my favorite bonkers details from the original comic that I hope make it into the adaptation:

The “Most-High” chair

Multiple characters say “poppycock”

The Doctor folds and throws a “paper spaceship”

The Wrarth Warriors have tongues with fingers on them

The Doctor gets a bomb surgically implanted in his stomach, writes it off as a tummy ache until he’s about to explode, and saves himself with some lead roofing

Flashback to [SPOILER] in a war zone dressed like Sgt. Rock

The Doctor builds a flashbang out of a lightbulb, a toaster, and a TV set

The Meep is blue but only in America

[superduperkas]

Stranger Things has always been great in seamlessly weaving in supernatural events that could be mistaken as "biblical" events all leading up to The Satanic Panic rearing it's ugly head in Hawkins but they really outdid themselves with Henry/Peter/Vecna.

Stranger Things managed to take 3 characters believed to be separate entities and seamlessly weave them together leading to the twist that they are indeed all one in the same being kinda like the idea behind The Holy Trinity.

Vecna: The Father

Henry: The Son

Peter/001: The Holy Ghost/Spirit

Vecna as The Father and ever looming presence over the entire series and pulling the strings behind the scenes until Stranger Things 4. The ominous "He". It's also interesting that some of his victims look like a crucifix moments before they die. He's the final form and most powerful of the three.

Henry as The Son. The youngest and the one who feels the burden of his "purpose" (carrying a cross on his back) to rid the world of its greatest scourge: humans. He is still learning about his abilities and his/their limits and accidentally "sacrifices" himself when he over exerts himself while murdering his family. He exhibits the characteristics of a religious/zealot serial killer.

Peter/001 as The Holy Ghost/Spirit. The most mysterious and underestimated entity in the Holy Trinity and when the audience is first introduced to Peter his is mysterious and the audience underestimates him and his importance. He is a spiritual guide, of sorts, to El throughout her entire journey. Starting off as a friend to a lonely and bullied El who also helped her tap deeper into her abilities to being the unseen entity continously pushing El (and most of the cast) to the limits of their abilities.

Vecna definitely views himself as a god or an entity above all others. The song playing in the background while he's telling his story to El and Nancy is Doctor Manhattan's theme from Zack Snyder's Watchmen. You know? The one that plays when Jonathan Osterman is torn apart atom by atom and puts himself back together atom by atom becoming Doctor Manhattan whom ppl view and treat as a god.

I just really LOVE good solid thought out story telling and Stranger Things does not miss

[artwithoutblood]

"who's steve jobs?"

PACKING UP ALL MY SHIT RN THROUGH TEARS- IM TELLING AERON ON YOU

[omgellendean]

Ngl, I'm a bit disappointed by the decision to make Soldier Boy a fraud instead of the war veteran. Sure, it fits in The Boys' "all superheroes are fake" paradigm, but, at the same time, this character was more interesting and layered as an actual forgotten hero and patriot who is also a horrible person stuck in the past and corrupted by fame. The conflict between these two parts, combined with all kinds of trauma, made him more real.

It certainly doesn't help that before and after this reveal, Soldier Boy shows himself as a really competent and coolheaded... well, soldier, even when high and in distress. I mean, come on, this guy escaped from the lab in Moscow naked and on the next day, he already was in NY, hunting for his ex. Right in this episode, he found and ambushed Mindstorm and Hughie after they teleported. This shit is impressive. His only idiotic moment was aiming a launcher at an ammunition depot 40 years ago, but it still looked more like him messing with Mallory. The show suddenly telling us (in episode 7 out of 8) that he's just a poser doesn't just make his past a lie but implies viewers shouldn't have believed in things they actually saw.

Please note that I'm not talking about Soldier Boy being a good guy. The show wasn't subtle about him being a dick (even though they could've been more straightforward about his crimes from the start). I'm talking about the disconnect between what The Boys tells us about this character and what it shows.

The choice to make Soldier Boy a fake robs the character of any depth and turns him into Homelander Lite. Which probably is a point, but also extremely boring. It also makes the overall story cheaper if the only type of villains in it (aside from Giancarlo Esposito) is an overpowered asshole that buys his own hype.

[slenderverse]

@volfoss replied to your post “ok time to continue the boys (im on s2 ep1 halfway...”:

Would you recommend it so far? I'd read a bit of the comics and was NOT impressed but I heard the show was better

​oh its definitely better than the comics full stop. everyone in this show sucks and horrible things keep happening but the writing is strong enough that they give you just enough happy moments to get you through it. if you know the dark superhero genre you can basically predict what the set up will be (the first two episodes i was able to call out immediately what was abt to happen because of watchmen) but the conclusions are realistic and gorey and batshit.

if you want a tv show that feels like youre constantly about to have a heart attack i would recommend. yes i will be watching the rest of it. fair warning that late s1 & so far s2 has an arc "redeeming" a rapist and it's written kinda. really fucking weirdly (i'm seeing it play out and its like oh no hes still the same pathetic bastard as ever but did u really need to Do That)

[deadguydeathmatch]

Dead Guy Death Match Round 1: Poll 41

[audreyhxrne]

better call saul, s3e3 “sunk costs” // the hiroshima lovers, watchmen - alan moore, dave gibbons & john higgins

[romanceyourdemons]

okay i fucking love it when a character’s master plan goes perfectly. like even when it’s to the detriment of the protagonists i love seeing the best laid plans of mice and men go fucking EXACTLY right

[mugenfinder]

I think I've figured why these Before Watchmen™ stories all have issues.

eThey take themselves way too seriously hile focusing on the wrong things, they try to make everything a big, personal deal when the biggest deal for everyone was the original story.

Maybe it's cause Watchmen was a reflection of the time it was made while these are more "We need you guys to write whatever so we can keep the rights."

In Laurie's book, she and her mom roleplayed house invasions as training on top of the gymnastics and so on.

When in the original story, Laurie was just exasperated with the fact that she was groomed but was never at odds with her mom about it.

That photo that Dan has of the 'Vice Queen he put away' when asked about it he just seemed nervous cause yeah *something* happened.

But in Before Watchmen™: Nite Owl, he has a thousand-yard stare presumably because that was the best sex of his life. She also left him for no understandable reason, but then in the End is Nigh game he and Rorschach end up killing her on accident but I think that's an alternate take.

Also if Captain Metro's boyfriend and partner (Hooded Justice) was killed and he burned the body, why would he ever try to make a new team?

Moloch in the original was a ghoulish looking old person, but he looked okay considering his condition. In his story he looks like a gremlin man and is also compared to Jesus.

Dr. Manhattan's story doesn't even happen before the original story.

The idea that Rorschach first killed as a child (on purpose), instead of just being a victim of his circumstances with mental issues that pushed him towards violence as an adult.

And this isn't going into how much almost every author downplays how messed up The Comedian is.