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triglycercule · 2 months

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ok so there's murder time trio where theyre best buddies and get along and sometimes even having more than just platonic interactions. and then there's also the murder time trio where they genuinely just don't like each other and avoid each other and do NOT get along and to me there's just a VERY clear timeline of events that could connect these two group dynamics. like these 2 could coexist,,,,,,

nightmare's fresh outta his little corruption sequence and he needs his henchmen. goes out and gathers the obvious three killer horror and dust (does it really matter how he got them??? kidnapping or not the trio will warm up to him). its his first time having to deal with mentally unstable grown up mortal men and he really has no idea how to manage the team so he lets them have some slack. spoils em a bit yk yk stops fights allows them to hang out allows em to screw around the castle even COMFORTS them,,,, shocking i know (a slightly nice nightmare interpretation from triglycercule? UNFATHOMABLE!!!!)

this killer's fresh outta something new so he's still kinda curious and nosy. he hasnt seen the multiverse and especially not interacted with nightmare/horrordust so he's kinda more outgoing and friendly (ish. to get to know better everyone and satisfy the curiosity of seeing what reactions and feelings these fellas could give him.) bc killer's not that much of a prick and horror and dust would naturally SLIGHTLY get along (and if in the right environment be good buddies. which is nm's lenience and killer's not shittiness) the mtt actually get along pretty well and are good buds!! like the first group dynamic i mentioned where the bad sanses are just kinda like a friend group except they have some weird work relations

and then a fight breaks out and nightmare kills either dust or horror (what about??? anything!) likely dust first because he's more likely to be wary of nm (if kidnapped) and also because he's just kinda more actively righteous compared to horror (who likely wouldn't do much against nm) or killer (does not give a shit.) dust dies, horror likely dies defending dust and that just leaves the og killer and nightmare

nightmare is like "oh shit i just killed my workers". he'll take like a week to ponder what he did and then completely move on (because hes an ass like that.) nightmare gets another horror and dust to replace the ones he killed. and killer is just like wtf how do i deal with this. the guys i were kinda friends were are dead but their copies are right here. like he knew copies existed in the utmv but he didn't think nightmare was so willing to replace them so fast???

this killer's still adapting to the multiverse and stuff (it probably hasn't even been a year since he got snatched up!!!) and yeah hes aware that copies exist and he could get replaced by one but he didn't think that it would LITERALLY HAPPEN RIGHT BEFORE HIS EYES. so he decides to stick more around nm and avoid getting replaced like the og dust and horror because it really just hammers in the point that he's kinda useless if he speaks out like those 2. hes avoidant of the new replacements as well bc hes still new to this experience and is getting used to the whole implications of two guys that were once him and he was friends with died and got replaced by basically the same person

but they still have to work together for obvious reasons. and even if killer's avoiding horror and dust they probably aren't avoiding each other and probably are like wary friends/acquaintances. and naturally killer HAS to become okay worker buddy pals with them because hes stuck living with them. nightmare's a lot stricter and cold to avoid something like dust's rebellion against him happening again. mtt are wary of each other (mostly towards killer. horrordust are pals and killer's kinda growing more apathetic to the duo because he's already experienced a lot of the stuff before with the og two that died.) but theyre still "friends" you could say

and then perchance maybe horror and dust decide to let killer in on a lil secret theyve been cooking up. theyre planning to escape (kidnapped DUH. and nm isn't as nice as he was to og horrordust to warrent them to wanna stay) and even though they don't really trust killer theyre still letting him in on the plan and offer for him to come with them because they lowkey feel bad for him and he's really not all that bad under all the bullshit

but killer saw what happened to the og dust and horror so he says no. and the night that the duo are planning to escape he just has this overwhelming sense of dread. the next morning he wakes up to nightmare standing over his bed with a cold glare telling him of horror and dust's attempted escape and death and killer just kinda. sighs. his dread was right (he was lowkey hoping that they could escape so they didn't die like the original 2)

and then the cycle repeats. previous dust or horror or both die to nightmare or some random outside force or escape (because it has to happen eventually right??) and the pair keep getting replaced. killer keeps witnessing their deaths and replacements and at this point he's just so used to it that he doesn't even TRY to interact with the new horrors and dusts. theyre not even like real people that are getting killed and replaced like robots to him anymore they're just distant coworkers that get fired and then a new one comes to take up the position

each new dust or horror is icked out by nightmare and killer. nightmare is incredibly cold and intimidating and dictatorial and just sucks in general. and killer gives them this distant look. like he knows something they dont. he's already proven to them that he knows that they should obey nightmare and how to deal with the king and they know he's been here longer than them but even when he's not with nightmare or not talking about him they get the blank stare

sometimes when a nicer replacement of horror decides to do something nice for killer like make him a meal he just gives him that look and declines (there's already been countless different horrors that tried doing nice stuff for him. it's not new and nice in his eyes anymore.) maybe when a dust replacement gets irked by killer's apathy and decides to try and say something that'll bother him or snoop through his personal stuff killer will just walk away or kick him out of his room with that creepy ass blank stare again (it's not the first time a dust has tried to rile him up. it's not new or interesting and just predictable)

killer just doesn't CARE about the new horrors and dusts. they're all pretty much the same two guy except maybe a bit nicer or meaner or quieter or even taller or something?? all he really cares about is is serving nightmares atp, no other outside relationships. and ngl he doesn't even care that much about nightmare either. he's already figured out his thinking he's already figured out all of his likes and dislikes and what not to do to piss him off. the only reason he's still dealing with him is because he doesn't have anything else better to do and he doesn't wanna be useless to the one guy that he's served all this time

he's just kinda stuck in an empty boring limbo that killer's only maintaining due to a lack of motivation and any other priorities. and personally i just think this bad sans dynamic is lowkey tragic because like killer keeps witnessing all these guys that he used to be friends or enemies or rivals or whatever with and they just keep dying or leaving him behind. not one ever stays for THAT long (because no wayyyy a dust or horror would take being under a cruel nightmare well) and it's given him this idea that none of these people matter (aside from the important one which is nm) because they're just gonna leave me and the connections ill have formed with them will be for nothing so why even try being vulnerable and friendly and interacting with these cheap copies of the guys i USED to be friends with

#nobody asked for this but i wanted to think of this #i don't know why i always have this idea that just because nobody asked for it doesn't mean nobody wants it. I WANTED TO WRITE THIS!!!!!#see this would work better if it were a fanfic and not a cheap tumblr post about this vague idea #i just wrote this because i really like the image of a blank eyed knowing looking killer #like he KNOWS something about dust and horror that they don't. and it bothers them severely #WHAT DOES HE KNOW??? their death or leaving is what #you ever think that killer has this crazy good sense of being able to predict the future #like he's just gotten so used to things that he just knows their next move #he would be crazy good at reading people and figuring out their behaviors #psycho analyze these guys until he could ACT like them. because what else does he have better to do when so bored and apathetic :3 #this (may or may not be) is inspired by a song. i was imagining a dust and horror who kept trying to leave nm and failing miserably #and each time killer would tell their story of how they died or how the previous 2 died #he's like a little time capsule. he stores the experiences and memories of each copy of horror and dust to never tell anyone #because who else would be hell??? the MIRROR??? NIGHTMARE??? lmao no #would this make killer much older than the horrors and dusts that get replaced. maybe i think that would be cool #he lies about how old he is to the other two because if he didn't then they would act differently and not like how he predicts #and anything new and unexpected is kinda scary to killer #ok i think that's enough elaborating in tags. time to actually TAG #killer sans #dust sans #horror sans #murder time trio #nightmare sans #bad sanses #bad sans gang #nightmare's gang #what tricule tag category does this go in hmmmm hmmmm #this COULD be a hc and BOTH an analysis. but which one...............#i guess analysis because there's not really anything outrageously ooc in this one #tricule analyze

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thestudiousalien · 3 months

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my theory for s4 of the bear (act 2 or so ig since they said 'to be continued') is that there won't be a big blowup between syd and carmy bc the heat from s2 is gone and we are now in the cold era. i think sydney's journey is speaking up for herself (getting her recognition, taking up space, etc) and she will need to let carmy know her deep dissatisfaction with what the bear has become but i think it will be a heartbreaking tearful scene on both their parts rather than a heated exchange BUT BUT the magical spontaneous thing will be that circumstances will lead carmy to eat one of sydney's creations and he will be so moved bc he will be in an incredibly vulnerable place having lost her companionship, camaraderie, shared passion etc. that he will finally put his ego aside and realize that this is what is actually driving him and keeping him here in this industry. the fire will return and his big gesture will be him giving most of the menu creation to sydney (by which she gains his and other's recognition) (AND AND AND this will be healing for him too bc it's what his toxic traumatic boss didn't do for him!! the sick part is that he thinks he is ging her recognition by aiming for the star the way he's going about it but that's really for him and his ego) and they will truly collaborate thru food bc that is how they best communicate when carmy isn't self sabotaging

and i think everyone talks about how carmy needs therapy and what not but i really think one of his best so called therapy is learning to be present with this outlet he DOES have for himself that has become traumatic (thru his need to prove himself to himself, and by extension his brother, his mother). the show talks a lot about and has this metaphor of food as nurturing as healing as family as love and carmy's true healing is when he can relate to his craft of cooking in this aspect. this is what sydney offers him and that's why he feels peaceful around her. what carmy offers sydney is recognition, he seeeeees her except in this season he didn't at all and that was why it was incredibly painful for her. she wants to succeed above all bc she actually is in a position where she DOES have to prove herself sadly, as a black woman. and most of all, carmy highlights the urgency with which sydney should take up that space and create ways for her to succeed by her own means! since at his worst carmy is so self-absorbed that she has to be the one to set those boundaries and open up. but she's sooooo emotionally closed-off almost as much as him. they are speaking around each other but they have the food!!!! to communicate

#the bear fx #sydcarmy #i am literally a crazy person for writing all this down #also i think chris storer has that type of pretentiousness in him where he will refuse to explicitly 'relegate' their relationship to #solely romance bc he doesn't want a 'cheap' romantic story which is silly #but it will be something more complicated in his mind and also yes deeply romantic #i think their journey is finding each other seeing each other and creating family together (ie. the bear #the kitchen)#each of their stories paralell each other!!!

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