#who are these people. idk them. i can't get attached to Characters without Meeting Them. in their natural habitat. thee original story
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wizardnuke · 1 year ago
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i truly don't understand how people can get really into a fandom without seeing all/most of the material involved. how are you doinf that
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itsalittlebitchilly · 15 days ago
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SOTR would have landed better if the victors we met weren't ones we already knew
(in! my! opinion!)
First off, I enjoyed the book, but I don't think it's without its flaws. My biggest issue with it is that there were too many characters that we already knew and they were all too close to the plot/Haymitch (do not get me started on him being besties w Burdock...)
My biggest issue with this was with Wiress, Beetee and Mags being included. We didn't need to see the details of how the three of them have defied the capitol, we already know! We can assume Wiress and Beetee being drawn in CF was because of their attitudes towards the games and the Capitol. Even if we don't know the details of their rebellions, we know how they feel. Mags is a bit different since she volunteered for Annie, but I think that act (along with her sacrificing her life) show her greatest strengths— protecting kids from the games. We already know this! We didn't need to see it!!!!! To me their inclusions felt as more of telling the ways they rebelled, rather than the showing that happened in CF and Mockingjay.
I also think it was a missed opportunity to introduce new victors (or expand on ones we didn't know as well from CF). Suzanne Collins writes such complex characters and people grow attached to them easily (hence why Haymitch got his own book..). I was way more interested in characters like Louella and Wyatt, who we had no prior connection/knowledge of. (also Maysilee, but idk which group she would be. She's not 100% new, but we only have a handful of vague references to her from the original trilogy)
Lastly, I think it narrows the complexity of the rebellion, and maybe the books overall. I've seen more than one person say that part of the point of SOTR was to show that the rebellion was a slow process, and Katniss was just the right tool at the right time. and. Yeah? again, don't we already know this? I felt this was obvious from the ways Coin and the other leaders discussed the importance of acting while they had the upper hand (also, doesn't Plutarch outright say it? I can't remember the specifics). Including Wiress, Beetee, and Mags makes it seem... Less of an ongoing thing (IDK how to word this :| ). We can now trace THREE victors that we ALREADY KNEW to ONE incident. And by the end of the novel, the three of them seem very close to how we meet them in CF. so...... what happens in the 25 years between them? the three of them are probably not involved in any more major incidents (I don't think Snow would have let more than one fly without killing them). so... did the rebellion just stay low for 25 years? I doubt it! but I also don't know what to think. To me, It would have made more sense for the events of SOTR to play out with new victors, leaving it up to our imaginations what happens with the ones we already knew.
Obviously, this is all MY! opinion so feel free to disagree
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elsa-fogen · 4 months ago
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Blicy au or smth idk
Okay so, i have this AU idea since like 20...16?? And was trying to do it in most of the fandoms i've been, but it never became anything more than just a vague concept in my head. Today some song reminded me about it, and i tried to apply it to winx this time. And since this version is probably also not going to get any development, I may as well tell it to you.
Okay, so, core of the au that always is the same: the couple, the ship, they already know each other, and dating, or about to, or have feelings for each other, doesn't matter. And, there's like some cataclysm happening and one of them convinces the other to go into anabiosis, and tells that will do it also, but after they're done with some important things they have to do. So one goes into anabiosis, and the other stayed awake to do what they supposed to do. Plottwist, they don't go into anabiosis, cataclysm stops, and life goes back to normal. Then humanity finds a way to make people live forever always young or smth. For some reason the one that stayed awake doesn't go and wake the other up (maybe some incident happened and they think that the other person died). Many MANY years later the timer on the anabiosis ends and the second person wakes up, an now has to adapt to a life in a compitely new world, also realising that their love is probably long long dead since they didn't find them nearby. Then something something they somehow meet and stuff.
SOOOOOO. If we make it a Blicy AU, Icy's the one who goes into anabiosis, Bloom is left to do her thing. BUT! In this iteration of the au will be a little twist: Bloom fucking died. But since she has the Dragon's Flame, she's reborn and stuff. And when Icy wakes up she finds new "Bloom" who doesn't know her, or worse, knows her from history books that tell about the evil Trix who tried to destroy the universe and stuff. And Icy, being herself, decides, that, fuck this new "Bloom", she wants her old one back. So she learns that all previous personalities of the keeper of the Flame aren't completely gone and can be brought back, replacing the current one. And Icy wants to do it, she doesn't give a single fuck about this whole new person, who's going to be erased from existence.
So yeah, if Icy succeeds, Bloom won't be happy with it, once she learns at what cost she's been brought back. The drama!
You may think "Or Icy can fell in love with this new Bloom"
No she fucking can't, she's aroace, she NEVER had romantic feelings for Bloom, but she does love her in her own way. Like you'd love a family member, you know. And Icy doesn't want to lose her, just like she doesn't want to lose her sisters. And she's also VERY stubborn, she doesn't WANT to accept this new "Bloom", especially if she had long and complicated story with the old one. And even if not, ot took her quite a long time to go from "this annoying creature again" to "i WILL kill anyone who dares to touch her"
I don't really know how to include Darcy and Stormy in this AU, but i also don't want to throw them away at all, because friendship of the Trix is important part of Icy's character. Actually, in the past Icy can be alone, and Darcy and Stormy would be the onec to find her in the future and help her to adapt to this new world! This way, of course, their relationships won't be as impactful as in my "canon" au(s), but will be still important and significant. Just this AU will be more focused on Icy and Bloom. Plus, the fact that Icy didn't have them in the past will make her attachment to Bloom even stronger.
Oh and, for the second plotline, or lore, or whatever, since it's the future and it's a cyber-magic-punk future, we can explore weakening of magic and it being replaced and/or amplified with tech more and more. Also, Icy will be like hella strong then on her own, without any like devices that everyone use now to cast even a simple spell. And would have to hide it... and there may be like a thing with uhh with some conspiracies going on, some guys want magic to decay and be gone in the end and like, we need to bring it back, because the fuck?? magic is fuwcking awesome. OR we'll the the another point and will agree with the anti-magic agenda? who knows...
DAMN it turned out longer than i expected. Anyway,I hope at least someone read the whole thing, also sorry for any mistakes or weird soinding sentances and inconsitat times, it's 6:51 in the morning i woke up 23 hours ago and won't get any sleep for at least 3-4 hours more
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inkblackorchid · 6 months ago
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We all know Aki is your favourite yugioh character in 5ds
My question is, if you had to do an anime mini series focusing on her, how would you do it, and what would the plot be about?
This has been sitting in my inbox for an unfortunate amount of time and idk when it's going up, but I wanted to answer it before the year is over!
So.I'm going to assume that by "miniseries" you mean a tiny spin-off with Aki at the centre that's still loosely connected to canon, so I'll base my answer off of that.
If I were given the reigns to a miniseries where Aki gets to be the protagonist, it could go either of two ways: Either I make a plot-heavy arc to tie up some of her loose ends, or I do something more light-hearted that focusses on the less important shenanigans she gets up to when she's not on screen.
If I gave her a plot-heavy miniseries, I would focus, as one might expect, on the Arcadia Movement. Canon left a lot of loose ends and a lot to be desired on that front and it's just begging to be adressed in-depth. With a miniseries, probably situated during the timeskip between the DS and pre-WRGP arc, I'd try to properly adress the fallout of the movement. There's a good chance I'd reuse elements from Fields of Arcadia for that. I'd dig into how Aki's readjusting to normal society, how her re-enrollment in duel academy works out, and how Arcadia's sudden, violent downfall is probably still on her mind. She'd probably start digging through files in this one, too. But for a miniseries, I'd probably go beyond that and maybe let her seek out some former members, too. Really get to the bottom of what Arcadia was doing behind the curtains and who was involved in it. Who knows, maybe I'd let her track down Carly's help (or Carly involves herself by accident because she can't help her curiosity) and they try to chase down as much information as possible. The rest of the usual crew would be the supporting cast, helping out with occasional enquiries. To give the whole thing some tension, let's say Aki gets "inspired" to dig into the movement by hearing that someone is trying to revive it, hoping to take Divine's place as the new leader. It follows that after countless hours of tiring research and probably a couple of scrapes with the "new" Arcadia Movement (with Aki gratuitously learning to appreciate her powers by using them to defend people, naturally), the minseries would conclude with her taking down the person trying to revive the movement and becoming comfortable with her new life outside the movement and her powers. (Meaning she would mostly be in the same position we meet her in at the start of the pre-WRGP arc, just proooobably without the later nonsense of her losing her powers and then declaring they were a curse before regaining them anyway. Yes, I still have beef with that.)
If I went with the funnier, but less intense option of making a miniseries about Aki's off-screen antics, however, I would absolutely stage something like a duel academy tournament. Same timeframe, and for some tenser elements, I would also add the idea of Aki trying to readjust to normal academy life back in. It's a familiar environment, but it has bad memories attached to it, and Aki wouldn't immediately have a good time adjusting. What better way to get her from weird outsider who comes back to school with some strange rumours attached to her to star student who can duel every bragging bully into the ground than an academy tournament? It wouldn't be as massive as the WRGP, of course, but I could see it going from at least a round of sixteen down to the finale. Aki might even hesitate about entering at first (because she doesn't want to garner negative attention again), but her new friends encourage her to. And again, the signers would probably make for the supporting cast. Rua and Ruka would obviously be right there in the academy with Aki, giving them some more attention, too. Rua joining the tournament (depending on whether or not it's an academy-wide or older-students-only tournament) is optional. (But would make for a fun match where they're both giving their all and Aki doesn't have to worry about being judged because he likes her, leading to her showing off how fucking good she is at duelling and how much fun she can have with it if people allow her to. Added bonus of being able to show how much Rua has progressed.) Throw in some bullies Aki puts in their place along the way, and some students (or even other tournament participants) she befriends, and bam. A fun time for everyone involved. (I think it goes without saying that Aki wins the tournament.)
So there you go! Two very different ideas that would make for two nice miniseries for Aki to star in. (They would also make for pretty good fice ideas, lmao.)
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markantonys · 10 months ago
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i'd watched the first 2 episodes of ROP s1 when they first came out, but i found them boring and so didn't continue. however, i've been hearing that charlie vickers is eating and leaving no crumbs in the new season, and that is my sweet boy guglielmo pazzi from i medici (2019) and i've Got to see him killing it in a huge role, i'm so proud of him!!! always a delight when a previously-unknown actor from an obscure show you love ends up making it big
so i decided to give it another shot and dove straight into 1x03 after reading a summary of the first 2 eps to refresh my memory, and idk if 1x03 really is that much more interesting than 1&2 or if it's just that i happen to be in a different frame of mind now that's more predisposed to getting interested in this show, but WOW i am loving it!! i'm an extremely casual LOTR fan (in fact i wouldn't even rightfully call myself a fan, more just "i've watched the movies a few times and like them" haha) and so whatever complaints the fans have about ROP obviously are not things that bother me. i'm just here for a good time, and i'm having one!
the galadriel & halbrand plotline is definitely my favorite (heck, if the numenor stuff had arrived in ep2 instead of 3 i might've been on board with the show the first time around). i already know he's sauron, of course, so i was like "i won't get attached to halbrand since he's not a real person, just sauron's disguise" but fuck, i'm attached, and it hurts!!!!! loving a character who starts out good and turns to the dark is one type of pain, but loving a character who was never real at all because they were evil the whole time and this "character" was never anything more than a facade - it's an entirely different and perhaps even worse type of pain! i can't even soothe myself imagining an AU where halbrand never turned evil, because halbrand was never real! genuinely in immense anguish over this. but once i reach s2 and get to the Unabashedly Evil Sauron Era, it'll be so sexy that i might immediately go "oh no! anyway" and forget all about my anguish jdkjfg
............wait a moment. do i now know how show!rand must be feeling post-s2? attached to someone who was never real because they were always just an evil person's fake persona? oh rand honey i'm even sorrier for you now!
speaking of WOT, it really has broken my brain because i try to polyship everything all the time nowadays. why did i go "wake up babe new polycule just dropped" during that scene when galadriel, halbrand, and miriel had a meeting lmao girl you KNOW this bitch is sauron! but i already knew people were shipping him and galadriel, so i went in to my new watch expecting to see the vibes, and indeed seeing them, and i ALSO unexpectedly saw vibes for galadriel and miriel (two leaders overburdened by duty, oh it's my kryptonite), so how can i help creating a polycule? oh well, i'll enjoy it while it lasts and then once galadriel finds out he's sauron i will instead get some angst to enjoy! and she will still have her girlfriend to comfort her (as long as nothing happens to miriel.........i haven't heard any spoilers about her, so we shall see!)
back to halbrand, the "he's the lost king of the southlands" idea is such a clever misdirect because it allows halbrand to demonstrate unusual skills in combat/diplomacy/manipulation that we wouldn't expect a seeming peasant to have, but provides a cover for it and so we think this one "identity reveal" is all there is to it, and aren't suspecting a second, bigger identity reveal! and actually, as far as i can remember, he never actually confirms that he's the lost king, he just plants a clue to lead galadriel to believe it and then responds to her assumptions in ways that seem to confirm them but don't actually. very aes sedai of him! and hey, if the southlands used to serve sauron, wouldn't it technically be accurate for him to be considered their lost king? very aes sedai of him x2. liars who lie without technically lying are the best kind (gen from the queen's thief also). anyway, because of this misdirect, i don't think i'd be suspecting him of being sauron at all at this point if i didn't already know. on the other hand, there aren't really any other sauron candidates except adar who clearly isn't him. but back to the first hand, the show never set up a "one of our major characters is sauron, who is it?" mystery so i might just be assuming he was hanging out offscreen yet to show up, if i didn't already know.
i'm enjoying the other plotlines too! i remember feeling that the hobbits & the stranger plotline was the weakest link in the first 2 eps, but totally changed my tune now, nori and the stranger (who i'm guessing is gandalf, but i'm not sure, so don't tell me if you know) have the most wholesome friendship, i could die!!
or rather, the second most wholesome friendship after elrond and durin, which i remember was my favorite storyline the first time around. they are so pure!! and disa is a delight! she and elrond have impeccable sibling-spouse energy (yes we've got another polyship in the house, of course we do)
i'm trying not to get too attached to bronwyn because i know they kill her off between seasons due to the actress leaving the show, but i really like her :(( her son's kinda annoying, but he's an angsty teen, so i can't hold it against him. and arondir!! what a man, i'm swooning constantly over everything he says and does. i really like how in the most recent episode i watched they had a Good Guy (bronwyn) genuinely consider giving up her principles of honor and going to swear fealty to the bad guys in order to survive, it feels more realistic and it really sells us on just how desperate and hopeless the situation is (and on how sauron is able to get supporters by creating such situations).
it's also a visually gorgeous show, very decadent (i was practically drooling the first time they showed numenor haha i love white stone seaside cities, and the ancient greek aesthetic vibes are the cherry on top!), and the MUSIC!!!!! you guys know i'm a tv soundtrack fanatic, and my god, this is the best tv soundtrack i've heard in a LONG time. i'd put it as second to WOT because it's traditional fantasy orchestra whereas WOT's soundscape is so different and unique. but "traditional fantasy orchestra" isn't a knock here, because it's done INCREDIBLY well, so it does feel unique instead of generic like other, lesser Traditional Fantasy Orchestra soundtracks do. it's sumptuous, it's lush, it's rich, it's got very distinctive Themes for each character/location that always play in the appropriate contexts (which is one of my favorite aspects of WOT's soundtrack too). i'd been listening to the s1 soundtrack for quite a while before now, so i'm well-primed to recognize all the different themes!
my favorite has gotta be the halbrand theme, i have a character in my WIP who's a sad mountain prince (and a gawyn knockoff <3) and this theme just reminds me sooooo much of him, i cry. but if we dispense with the halbrand pretense after s1, we might not get to hear this theme anymore!!!! it's also the southlands theme, though, so hopefully we'll keep it, and i did hear it crop up briefly in a track from the s2 album. also, shoutout to the fact that the halbrand melody is an inverse of the sauron melody, bear mccreary you son of a gun (the sauron theme is another one of my favorites, the first time i heard it i assumed it was his theme from the original movies because it just had the feel of an Iconic Villain Theme, but no, it's new to ROP!)
anyway! i've watched up through 1x05 now. pacing's definitely still a bit slow, but i'm enjoying it nonetheless, and it's picking up now that galadriel & co are headed for the southlands. and i've heard that s2 is a big step up in many respects (a la WOT s2), so i'm excited to get there!
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dindjarindiaries · 1 year ago
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contrary to popular belief, i don't think the s2 cameos ruined the Mandalorian. din needed to find a jedi for grogu so he met ahsoka and then luke. even if you don't know ahsoka, her whole backstory isn't necessary for din and grogu's story but the warning she gave about grogu's attachment being a hindrance and is the cause of her refusal just means that she wasn't the teacher they were looking for. and then came luke, he sensed grogu through the seeing stone and accepted the child as he is. the s2 finale was one of the best use of that cameo to me because they chose the one jedi character alive who can provide grogu everything he needed to learn the ways of the force and help him face his trauma to look forward to the future (which he will have with din). and even from a story perspective, din giving grogu permission to leave with luke was expected because that's the culmination of the quest the armorer gave him in s1 finale. it was always going to end that way. all the cameos contributed to the narrative progression of s2 while expanding the world building. we can't have a jedi youngling as the main character's adoptive son without one day meeting jedi. favreau and filoni took the most interesting storyline to progress din and grogu's character growth by including those cameos. just because people are complaining about cameos doesn't make them inherently bad or useless.
I mean, I personally loved the S2 cameos myself too, for all the reasons you’ve stated! But you’re right in that the more popular belief is that the cameos were a bad thing. I remember people saying that a lot when the season first came out. It never really bothered me too much; the only thing that kinda bothered me was how repetitive the episode structures were (Din wants something, someone makes him complete mission/job to get that thing, then he takes off).
Luke’s cameo would’ve been better for me if they had actually utilized him correctly later on. But the fact he doesn’t embrace the attachment and makes Grogu choose just… idk, it put me off. Wasn’t my cup of tea. But that doesn’t mean it was bad!
And I appreciate you sharing your honest take! The more viewpoints we have here, the merrier!
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t00nyah · 2 years ago
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t00nyah explaining project moon without actually explaining project moon
after posting lcb trigger warning i wanted to do this
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me explaining project moon in the shortest way possible except its goofy af bc im eepy and lazy but im in a desperately talkative mood (i post mostly about limbus company since it came out cmon)
what the fuck is projmoon:
project moon is the coolest ever indie game development team we love them; they've made three games so far, also have an unfinished novel, a...idk, just another novel that was initially a comic but im a hater (im sorry(not)), and another comic
they've been doing it for like 7 years almost and still have no idea what optimization is but its okay we love them
there's a lot of killing and just amoral guys in general who can and will kill thousands. its THE 'your meow meow killed thousands of people' 'and they looked good doing it!' universe. everyone is fucked up there guys. but UMMM thats kinda the appeal
so the games! we all here are gamerzzz!
LC
it all started 6 years ago, when lobotomy corporation released in early access and my gf was like hey look what i found
lobotomy corp is a game where you're a manager in a big company, L corp, and you have to get your guys, employees(lucky ones who got the job) to work with abnormalities(fucked up creatures) so they would generate enkephalin, a big energy resource
except your guys will probably die when you're already so attached to them so you just restart the day each time this happens
theres like a maaassive plot, it is the beginning of literally everything, like some stuff still haunts us in limbus company (looking at a particular individual) and there are more characters that you'll fucking love(sephirahs) and then learn their fucked up story (and then learn your fucked up story and not be happy about it)
ah yes while im on it theres no actual self incert in project moon games im sorry but every character IS a character
gameplay-wise you just have to organize your guys, give them equipment, assign them to a job, make them suffer and struggle to suppress abnormalities if they try to make a mess(kill everyone) and do hard tasks your besties make you do
LoR
later, in like 2018 i think, they almost immediately after full release of LC announced a sequel, library of ruina
library of ruina is a game that continues the story(duh) and i can't tell you much about it without spoiling lob corp too, but in this one you have to USE BRAIN like A LOT because its a STRATEGY CARD GAME
in this one you dont even have a character you play as, you just follow the characters' on their journey. but dw! you'll get your own customizable guys to adore here too!
basically in this game the characters from LC and your guys are called librarians and you have to greet guests of the library, that were specifically invited there and /tp-ed, basically fighting them. every battle has its own story and eventually it branches off into four arcs and oh gott i love library of ruina a'right you meet characters for like one story and then have to fight them knowing their issues and how life fucked them over enough to get there</3
gameplay-wise you build cool decks from cards of those you've killed for your guys, pick guys for fight and then pick cards. simple. i think. not so simple in game but i simplified it
there's also a lot of amazing lore drops, bc in LC we were kinda isolated and focused on the corporation, but in LoR? we get to see all kinda of people of The City, we learn about The City, we learn about factions and all, we get all the lore we missed by being stuck in that manager chair
LCB
okay and now we're here. limbus my fucking company.
limbus company was, again, announced almost immediately after LoR's full release(PM are CRAZY), and released february 27 of this year, and already has more story in word count than lor does or so i've heard...
limbus company is pm's first mobile game(but dw there is a steam release if you're more of a pc person or your phone will explode if you try to install it(and it will)) and their first...(behold) gacha game. yep. but no dont get scared it actually has the best gacha system ever known to men
they've also tried to make it enjoyable without getting into previous games but to me it doesnt feel right i dunno i feel like it's just not that cool without knowing the context and going insane screaming at carmen or connecting the dots, also like the events of LCB are all connected to LC and LoR, so ummm if you try to get into limbus without at least learning what the other games contain be ready i'll personally explode you
in this game you basically play as dante(they/them for the sake of mysteriousness of 'who TF they are') and you have 12 deranged guys named the sinners who are ALL BASED OFF FUCKING CLASSIC LITERATURE did you fucking know pm are fucking literacy nerds and cant have a game without book references without exploding??? well they are.
so the characters (IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED) are:
1. gregor (metamorphosis, franz kafka)
2. rodion (crime and punishment, fyodor dostoyevsky)
3. (emil) sinclair (demian, hermann hesse)
4. yi sang (the wings, yi sang (kim hae-gyeong))
5. ishmael (moby dick, herman melville)
6. heathcliff (wuthering heights, emily bronte)
7. don quixote (don quixote, miguel de cervantes)
8. hong lu (dream of the red chamber, cao xueqin)
9. ryoshu (hell screen, ryunosuke akutagawa)
10. meursault (the stranger, albert camus)
11. outis (the odyssey, homer)
12. faust (faust, johann wolfgang von goethe)
also don't forget dante is based on the divine comedy by dante alighieri!
also dante DOESNT FUCKING KNOW SHIT. faust seems to know all shit and never tell dante.
i mentioned it being a gacha game. so like. you dont pull characters. instead you pull the initial deranged guys' alternative versions where they end up on another job like cult leader or a terrorist idk
the best part? you dont necessarily have to get them from gacha in most cases, you can get special currency, ego shards, to get whatever you want separately. also pm added ideality that you get from unfortunate pulls that you can spend on the special identity from the banner. but tbh i think its way easier to get the shards needed than pull that much, not really worth it
gameplay-wise? well. you have to basically just choose your guys' identities(those alt versions, they use them in fights to be stronger), choose their skills, a little similar to ruina (except TBH lcb lets you fuck around and put it on auto until it doesnt really work out (please dont autoplay with r corp ishmael or at least check what they're doing you silly goop they might do friendly fire if you're stupid enough)). the game consists of cantos, chapters that tell you a separate story of a sinner(in the order i gave earlier, not everyone knows that), that have story-episodes(cool ones), story-and-fight-then-episodes(epic ones), and sometimes just-fight-episodes(who the fuck thought those are a good idea?). and in the end of a canto there's always a dungeon. honestly, first two cantos are easy enough to just learn basics yourself, im rambling at this point
there's also hellish grind options and paid stuff like battle pass with the coolest perks ever
also LoR and LCB have mili songs, which is fucking cool, they're such bangers. no no projmoon games' ost in general. just fuckign bangers my guys and i mean it.
well that was fun and games. like i mentioned theres also:
Distortion Detective
im such a fucking fan of this unfinished novel, im so upset they abandoned it </3 pm did say they're probably going to rework it as a game or smth later but in my opinion it just loses its charm if its not a novel
distortion detective ... i cant explain it without spoilers to the games but its basically about moses, the distortion detective, who solves distortions which are like uhhmmm... people turning into some funky shit(that expresses their feelings). and she has a parthner named ezra. they're both poor traumatized women. and stuff happens. thats all i can say without spoiling everything. you learn a lot about the distortion phenomenon from moses' perspective.
WonderLab
wonderlab is a comic made by artist mimi, that follows taii, rose and catt. its about another lobotomy corp branch that actually introduces us to the concept of abnormality aberrations (slightly similar but different abnormalities like we have a little red riding hooded mercenary's(do you remember me mentioning pm being literacy nerds?) team fortress blue team version or whatever) that is used in limbus quite a lot so we old people from LC can be like 'heehehehe this is like like snow white's apple's aberration, so funny, reminds me of good ol' days...'
Leviathan
my main enemy. initially it was a comic, but i think they had to stop working with the artist for some reason and continue it as a novel instead.
issue?
i didnt read it. im so sorry i failed you. but i cant. first vergilius, main character, is ugly AS FUCK and he's STUPID i hate his guts. BUT OH DEAR LORD HE APPEARS IN LIMBUS COMPANY AND I HATE HIM EVEN MORE. AND NOT JUST APPEARS, HE'S THE GUIDE OF THE BUS, HE'S KINDA ALWAYS THERE. I HATE HIS GUTS. oh hey lap-- charon, no, you're good, you're amazing, vroom-vroom, yes, right, you're so right.
i'm pretty sure it has A LOT of important context for some stuff in LCB but i just CAN'T MAKE MYSELF TOUCH IT. please read leviathan for me.
i'm sorry it turned into a looong ramble but here's t00nyah's awful brief guide to project moon. in case you want to know about world-building or the story in particular...i'm always here to dm me. please do. i really love telling people about project moon. there's just a lot to unpack.
edit. okay apparently it was easy to misinterpret my leviathan commentary so im putting this here for the sake of clearing the confusions for future!! tl;dr: i know it wasn't continued as a comic for REASONS, it's OBVIOUS!! and yes, leviathan is important, i just can't make myself read it therefore don't have enough knowledge to write about it(cool idea: write your own post about leviathan if you're seeing this and are enthusiastic about it! i just won't.), i still don't like vergilius, it's just a me-thing. DO read leviathan if you're interested</3
edit2. after thinking for a while, decided to add this just in case: i was given a summary of leviathan! well. it IS something. (opinion on vergilius hasn't changed much sorry not sorry, still a me-thing.) but yeah 👍 all good 👍 still not liking it much, mayhaps because i couldn't read it myself, but. it can be found here in the comment section.
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I just read through both chapters of your Gojo fic and I’m OBSESSED! So many thoughts right now, you’re so talented 😭
Y/N has given us a bit of insight as to why she dislikes Kazumi and I can honestly say that IF what she’s telling us is true (since we’re really only getting her perspective) then I don’t blame her for her feelings. Your rich friend that can accomplish anything they want because they were born into wealth constantly reminding you that YOU can’t always get what you want? Nah, I wouldn’t let a friend shit on my hopes and dreams whenever I spoke of them. Then continuing to call someone a nickname they’ve clearly said they didn’t like is also pretty disrespectful too, I wonder if there’s any more though because… Y/N GIRLIE why not just stop being friends with her if you didn’t like her 😭 she’s been inconsiderate of your feelings enough for you to just drop her but… None of this is an excuse to have an affair with the man your “best friend” loves though like??
I wonder if Y/N has actually developed feelings for Satoru. I’m sure their affair has started out of mutual attraction and revenge on Y/N’s part, but given her reaction when Satoru promptly reminded her of her place of not being on Kazumi’s level (which I wonder if he’s said because he most likely knows she’s insecure about it) then she might have without realizing it.
There’s so many questions racking through my brain, has Kazumi really not suspected a thing even through their blatant flirting in front of her on their first meeting? Why did Y/N stick with someone she clearly can’t stand? Is there more to Y/N and Kazumi’s relationship that we have yet to see or is Y/N just that awful of a person to Kazumi? As of right now my mind is just racing!
I can’t wait to see the aftermath of this situation, Y/N babe let’s get some therapy maybe 😌 Kazumi, I’m so sorry you were betrayed by the two people you probably loved most omg 😭 Satoru, you can go to hell (need you so bad tbh)
THANK YOU FOR THE CHAPTER and I’m so sorry for the essay message 😭 looking forward to part three! Have a good one ❤️
First, I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING ME THIS AND READING MY WORK!! ❤️ ✨️ and your character study is awesome dearie!!
Secondly, I love how you left messages for everyone, here's there answers for you:
Y/N: I am sure I can use a bit of therapy after all that, thank you.
Kazumi: I still can't... it's so hard to even believe but... I guess, I knew bits and pieces about it... Still it doesn't help but thank you for your concern.
Satoru: Would you accompany me on the road to hell, m'lady? *winks*
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Now, to answer your questions, I won't answer about Kazumi and y/n's relationship and why didn't Kazumi suspect much cause anything it'll spoil the next part.
As for, why Y/N didn't leave Kazumi:
Its kind of an attachment issues. I have incorporated this trait in y/n recalling my behaviour with some of my former(toxic) friends. Idk if anyone relates with it or not but in this issue, you can't just let go of people who have done wrong to you.
There's a tendency to just stay with them even though you absolutely hate them. But the reason for the stay is because you want to witness and revel whenever the other person's suffering. And as we saw, y/n is a two-faced bitch – she'd provide fake support while laughing internally.
But this attachment issue also makes her suffer as she is not really "leaving" even though she might say that she doesn't care for Kazumi, she is actively present in her life and in a way does care (for her suffering). It is making her suffer too which kind of gives the feel of an internal masochism.
This brings me to my second answer:
I guess I have mentioned it that y/n does harbour feelings for Satoru even though she knows he is an asshole. And yes, the affair was mainly a revenge but then think about it, you are actively flirting, sleeping, meeting someone but all in secret. It gives you the - Us against the world vibe which is thrilling in itself and you don't know when you overstep the threshold of love even after knowing that your partner is a Dick.
Y/n knows that her feelings can be one sided and its causing her to suffer (internal masochism), still she can't stop this affair (attachment issues at play again).
That's just it!! And thank you for reading and writing to me. It really means a lot !! 💗 😭
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canisbeanz · 10 months ago
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I am SO late to this post but oh well, I have things to say too, I hope you don't mind.
I find Tobio really interesting as a character and it always bugs me how little screen time he gets smh. I think the best he gets that I've seen is in the 2003 series, because of all the flashbacks and occasional ghost Tobio sightings I feel like you actually get to know him better than him just being a plot fodder child character who dies before the story really starts.
Obvs there's also the short "The Secret of Atom's Birth" which does an amazing job establishing his personality and making you actually care about his death, but I don't usually count that one because 1 I'm not sure how canon it is to anything bc it has some very obvious differences to the 03 series continuity, and 2 It doesn't have an official or even good fan English translation so it's pretty hard to understand what's going on in more detail than the obvious parts that don't rely on spoken language to be understood. (Honestly, I think it is a testament to how good the directing of the short is if I can still understand enough to get emotionally invested while not understanding a single line of dialog.) Also, Idk how others feel but ik I personally have a very hard time having any empathy for a character's death if I didn't have a chance to get attached to them while they were alive. So in a lot of adaptations, I end up really not caring about Tobio at all which really isn't great considering how important he is to the overall story. (Warrior Cats has really desensitized me to character deaths lol) Because they're not real people I don't really place any value on a life I didn't get to know anything about. Like, I can look at a character and the situation surrounding their death and go "Yeah that's pretty sad" and have empathy for other characters who miss them, but unless I get a chance to get attached to that character for more things other than stuff related to their death I have a really hard time seeing it as any kind of substantial loss. (Can't miss what you never had ig)
This is one of the biggest problems in the 09 film imo. I watched that film as my first introduction to anything Astro boy and I had absolutely no attachment to Tobio at any point in the runtime, before or after his death. In fact (and this is gonna make me seem absolutely evil lol) the first time I watched Tobio's death scene in the movie I genuinely laughed out loud. Something about how he just completely vanishes without a trace but his hat is unscathed is just hilarious to me for some reason, and how President Stone just gives absolutely no shits about seeing a child get vaporized absolutely kills me every time lmfao. My apathy towards Tobio there also really isn't helped by the fact that after the initial "you're not Toby, get out of my house" scene he's basically never mentioned again. When your film centers around an inciting incident that is sparked by a very sad character death and the audience couldn't care less about said character you've probs made a bit of an oopsey.
I also feel like adaptations could really benefit from letting Astro properly interact with Tobio. No traveling back in time to meet him or have him actually talk to his ghost or anything like that, I mean more letting Astro acknowledge Tobio's existence as a real human child with feelings and a personality, and less like his fleshy blueprints would be cool. Also, I think showing how Astro himself feels about the fact he's made in the likeness of a dead kid he never even met would make some really interesting opportunities for character growth. (yes 03 does do a tiny bit of this, which is appreciated, I just want more lol) One major thing that always gets to me about Tobio and Astro's relationship is just how little there is of it. Astro barely acknowledges him a lot of the time and when he does it's usually in a very matter-of-fact "I was meant to be Tobio but I'm not so L Tenma" kind of way, (Yes 09 I am looking at YOU again) I just feel like, at the end of the day if Astro doesn't care about him then why should I?
To continue on 09 a sec I can actually think of a certain other robot film where a character's family member dies in an explosion off-screen and leaves behind nothing but their hat that works infinitely better and 99% of the reason for that is just how the dead character is established ad treated after death. Tadashi's death in Big Hero 6 makes me cry every. single. time. and the point at which it hits me isn't even when it happens, it's about half an hour later in the "Tadashi is here" scene. In an hour-and-a-half-long film, Tadashi is only actually alive for 23 minutes. They make SUCH good use of his screen time and do an amazing job of establishing who he is and why we should care about him that his presence is felt through the entire rest of the film, not just because the rest of the cast keeps name dropping him to remind you they miss him, they don't need to because YOU as the viewer miss him just as much. His death doesn't just feel like a 'make the plot start' button, it's an actual loss of a person the audience cared about. With 09 Tobio the only thing his 11 minutes of screen time tells about him is that he likes science, is very smart and seems to be a bit of a know-it-all and is a troublemaker who doesn't listen to authority figures. While this is all fine and I realise that he had like half the screen time Big Hero 6 did, I feel like they could've done a much better job getting the audience attached to him. I also think it really doesn't help how there isn't really any gap between his death and Astro's creation to show Tenma grieving him. There's no scene showing what Tobio left behind and give the audience a second to breathe, it just jumps straight to him building a replacement. (I'm not even gonna go into how much time that film wasted on the RRF instead of actual important scenes but OOF it's bad.)
TLDR I agree with everything you said and just wanted to add my thoughts. They really need to stop using Tobio as just a superhero origin story and actually expand on him as a character separate from Astro. In some cases, it almost feels like Tobio fills the role of 'main character before they get superpowers' like Peter Parker before the spider bite or something, it really just doesn't work with him because it ISN'T the same character lmao.
Tobio talk
I honestly have come to the realization that as well known as Tobio is because of Astro, while Astro stays the same in his iterations, Tobio is so obscure that while he has a few constants (shy/introverted/polite/struggles with his messy room, cares about his parents, etc..) most about him changes in different forms of media, and is also kept unknown for plot reasons, even his name itself changed as it wasn't Tobio originally. Usually because he is hit with a truck, or killed some other way, in the begining before we get to know much about him.
I think the most character he has ever been given is in Atom the Beginning, and the 2003 anime via flashbacks and a visit from his ghost (ouch as that scene hurt me🖐️😭)
The 2009 movie gave him a bit more screentime but there his character was different as in they kept most of the constants but made his personality more mischievous, confident, and sometimes hilariously cocky as he tries to live up to Tenma's ridiculous expectations
I think the other one would be Pluto which we don't even see Tobio in at all, but we get a lot of insight on who he was via Tenma having his usual existential breakdown about his death at the dinner table, very much confusing Astro (at the time who grew up thinking he was Tobio), leaving him very confused on why his father is talking about him in third person right to him.
As for the rest he is only brought up via flashbacks, people talking about him, and his unfortunately short screentime in the beginning of almost every iteration.
Most people base his personality on Astro but even then that's very incredibly vague as in every iteration Astro is displayed to, not just have traits only Tobio would have and replicate things Tobio would do, but also have a personality pretty different to Tobio. Tobio is shy and reserved (usually), Astro is polite like Tobio was displayed as but is more open and extroverted, in the 2009 movie Astro and Tobio have similar traits that make them alike but their personalities are mostly different, same for Pluto, and many others.
The only thing that stays the same between Tobio and Astro no matter the iteration is their looks and most importantly their moral compass. No matter what Astro and Tobio have the same moral compass on things
Now this brings us into aus which do exist in the small yet vastly powerful and growing Astro Boy fandom
I don't count Aus in this as they aren't anything canon or official, but nonetheless it is the one instance where their moral compasses change. In this instance you have what I call the "what if?" phenomenon, that happens in every fandom where they take the wholesome lil guy and change their moral compass around, usually making them into a bad guy/antagonist for their own interesting plot and story explorations which can lead to pretty interesting au reads. And as a side note yes, I am aware some people may find it upsetting as it's always out of character and some people don't like seeing their favorite good guy made out as a terrible person or doing something terrible which is understandable, it's not my cup of tea either, but at the same time you shouldn't worry about it affecting your love for the character because you have to remember that it's not their actual character nor is it affecting their actual character/reputation as a character. As long as it isn't made into anything immoral then just let people have fun and don't bug them. It's not hurting you or anyone else, or taking away the reputation of the character. Just vibe and let vibe.
Now what does this have to do with any of this? Well two things actually. One not only is the "what if?" extremely rare here, but it's also the only instances of their moral compusses getting turned around. The fact it never happens in the official media, and rarely ever happens in the fandom itself, is something I find to be a pretty cool constant for their characters that is agreed upon 100% in canon and a lot of the times in the fandom as well.
And I believe it is because it helps link the two together as their moral compusses, or better yet, their hearts, being of the same tune, helps them react to important situations the same way as eachother. They reflect eachother. Despite their differences, Tezuka shows that they are still always connected by heart and always will be in their official works.
So anyway, Tobio deserves more attention as there is both so much yet so little known about him at the same time, and with his ties to Astro's past it makes him such a cool character that deserves much more recognition! ^^
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ride-thedragon · 2 years ago
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At this point I think as a fandom, we've lost some of the crackship charm we once had. I can look up Ashara Dayne and Ser Davos and find results, But Nettles and Helaena have nothing. It's time to rectify that for my favourite girl and try to inspire some fanfics. Feel free to add more.
1. Daeron and Nettles
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Think Enemies to Lovers, Captive of War drama like Jaime and Brienne or just some good old Gwen and Arthur-inspired love. Ivy by Taylor Swift coded, a She's all that inspired affair. I genuinely think that he's just trying to be there for her with this one. It happens and neither of them realise until You're in Love starts playing.
2. Baela and Nettles.
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They would give the pot calling the kettle black in every argument. The Princess Bride-esque dynamic between them. Very Graham and Megan from but I'm a Cheerleader. Sapphic Pinning and Resentment should be its own genre. Sir Chloe's Michelle is my vision. We can even make a throuple with them and Jace or Alyn. Truly, I think they but heads until they kiss, building on resentment. I also think they would be the coolest couple.
3. Addam and Nettles
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Kaz and Inej core.
But in all seriousness, I think Addam being loyal and Duty bound and Nettles challenging that idea is delicious. Solider of Duty x Solider for the People. A modern-day Persuasion story but gender-flipped if we put our minds to it. See you Again Kali Uchis and Tyler the Creator, that's all.
4. Nettles and Helaena
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They just deserve better. That's all. Give me cottagecore sapphic romance with my best girls involves. Like the young lesbians from Barbie and the Diamond Castle. Lesbians raising kids together. Sheepstealer and Dreamfyre hatching eggs for the nieces and nephews. I just-
It would be so cool, I will by Mitski sentiment is already attached.
5. Alyn and Nettles
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Now that we are here obviously she apologized for Sheepstealer, she doesn't need to but she did, He tries not to like her but can't help it. She wins him over and they hatch him an egg or something idk. Think The Princess Diaries: Royal Engagement, Mia and Nicholas, Flipped the movie if you will. Jealously plots would slay. For the song choice think Shameless Camila Cabello. Please remember that Alyn is younger than Netty by 3/4 years though.
6. Rhaena and Nettles
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See now this is classic Friends to Lovers, Emma and Harriet if gay, perhaps, Bend it Like Beckham core definitely. Sofia by Clario inspired. Nettles doesn't leave Rhaena out because she's without a dragon and the same happens inverse. Sapphic confusion however, like Rhaena doesn't understand at first why she feels that way.
7. Nettles and Jace.
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Now for the Mr Knightley and Emma Woodhouse of our time, the Kate and Anthony of Westeros. The potential for her just not listening to him when he tries to tell her how to ride a dragon. Or when she talks to him about the people he'll rule over eventually, Ygritte and Jon style. She's also the only bastard who doesn't look Targaryen, he can relate to that a bit. I think she's Fierce and he's Stubborn. Ungodly Hour by Chloe x Halle for them.
8. Nettles and Alys.
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The Fire Witches of Westeros. I think they will be perfect as a ship. American Horror Story-esque characters. The two Witches in the story are obviously my favourites. It would be Jennifer's Body meets, the craft meets, and Suspiria. Willow by Taylor Swift becomes them.
This one was also a bonus more or less.
Anyways I just need to start to get a baseline story for my girl by the time the show gives her to us. So we have a general sense of direction, I'm tired of the mischaracterization of my baby. She's smart, resourceful, Cunning, Fearless, and not entirely loyal. She also curses, enough for it to be a character trait. Please remember this for her, I'm tired. I also know that Daemon loved her but she's too much fun as a character to limit her to him romantically in all her fanfictions, it is an interesting narrative to explore while we don't have exact answers but he gets romantic ships with anyone. She deserves more.
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lesbiankrem · 3 years ago
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Watched Ep. 1 of Dragon Age Absolution
of course I'm generally excited to see something dragon age, to see different places and people
the animation style is usually pretty fun, especially the way they do magic effects, and there is a good amount of detail in the look of buildings, clothes, expressions. their intro sequence is nice.
i am not sure why they chose that blocky weirdly modern/characterless sans serif font for the location overlays. I liked the use of the inquisition map to show they were traveling... why not use that font?
i wish they drew some actual strap or other staff-holding mechanism for the mage characters. this isn't the damn video game you can make it make sense. if the mages really are doing some continual spell to float their staff an inch away from their backs, you would think they would talk about it sometimes, so I don't really accept that's the explanation. it would also be great characterization through costuming! have poorer mages using cumbersome, rough and ready straps and fancy mages having a whole garment with a click-in attachment for it that they can use magic to operate, but don't have to continually expend magic for.
i am usually someone who gets most irritated over time with plot that is written for the convenience of the writers and not with edits done to make sure it makes sense. like if you have your characters get into a fight with a mage and his crew in a bar that mage should use magic to fight!! You should have to deal with a fireball or telekinetic weapons or something. If you defeat him anyway it better be because you had some effective counter, not because he conveniently and inexplicably only uses magic for theatrics (burning the bartop to scare someone) and nothing else (idk fighting for real).
Also why bring the plans to a public place!?!?!?! Don't do it! Just say no to reading your heist plans at the bar in Tevinter as an elf who escaped slavery!!! the writers did not NEED to make her that dumb (and the rest of the team implicated too). They could have just had that guy recognize her or pick her out for harassment because of course you can harass any elf with the claim they "must be a runaway" in Tevinter.
on the positive note with Qwydion pretending to be a slave for a magister, it seems they are explaining how bull (as a qunari) got to walk around Tevinter without being attacked -- they have some qunari slaves and servants and possibly even other free travelers and citizens, which provides a cover. I can see why Tevene society/government would opt to not ban them, either because tbh the Qun can just send elven, human, or dwarven converts or pay off people to get spies. It's not like it would slow them down too much for Qunari/kossith to be banned from Tevinter. Meanwhile all the labor from captured or defected qunari would be valuable, and so is all the time and resources they save not trying to enforce a ban.
other plot & character thoughts....
I don't remember Fairbanks being that competent or confident in DA:I. Maybe they will explain that with what happened to him from when the Inquisitor first meets him until now.
I don' think we actually met a mage named Hira in DA:I -- which is fine it makes sense, no problem... just if someone wants to contradict that and say we did, I do want to know
as I suspected even in context the "people like us can't change the world!!!" "people like you never try" exchange just seems......... bad. though this may be showing a flaw in their dynamic together or like, character flaws on both parts, but wow what a both obviously false statement and horrible way to try to motivate someone. of course people from rough backgrounds try to make things better. of course lack of trying isn't the big, main reason why formerly enslaved elves and other people like that don't tend to effect lasting changes in society that everyone knows to credit them for. but to be fair the writers, it's believable to me that Hira might think and say that... and i can't say they meant for the line to be taken as truth.
i don't think people usually call it a "cheese farm".... there are dairy farms... and cheesemakers. may b wrong i'm not a cheese farm expert. very cute anyway for Hira and Miriam to want to farm cheese <3
they really are relying on Miriam having moodswings to explain her choices. not yet sure that is a problem, makes sense that she might have moodswings, but if they keep it up for when their plot asks for it even if she has Character Development to manage them I am going to complain about it
i kind of don't get why the mages couldn't bust down a grate or two or clear the rubble the "blocked" tunnels. i guess we can imagine they are REALLY filled in with rubble and the ones with metal grates are also enchanted and trapped to hell and back but if it were me i would have written that in with a line to make it clear
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msrandonstuff · 2 years ago
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Can't concentrate because idk why but right now I feel VERY enthusiastic about helluva boss. So i decided to yeah, come here to maybe bother you in your askbox so I can get it all out.
But like.
Stolitz. The main ship.
You could say that Blitzø and Stolas are the two main characters and you wouldn't be quite wrong. Those two losers are the ones that have most of the fandom emotionally attached because. Because. Just. Imps, in the show, are hell's lowest class. Them there are the Sinners (people who died and now are in hell), then there are the Overlords (powerful Sinners because they either did something terribly bad on earth or I think some of them were born in hell?), then the nobility, like princes, dukes of hell. And then Lucifer who is the king. Ok so.
Blitzø is an imp. Hell's lowest. Stolas is a prince. Hell's nobility. They both met as kids because the day of his tenth birthday, Stolas' father told him about his arranged marriage, Stolas was sad and so his father "bought" Blitzø for an afternoon. Blitzø's father told him to steal anything valuable from Stolas' house because nobility. So Blitzø tricks Stolas into helping home steal. And they both enjoy themselves while doing it. When it's all done, Blitzø could have left, but he didn't because he had a good time.
It seems that from that moment, Stolas had some sort of crush on Blitzø.
Then, years later, Blitzø wants to make his own business: killing people that haven't died yet, being hired by hell's Sinners. But in order to go to Earth, he needs a portal, a spell. And, one of the places where he can find something to go to Earth is in a book Stolas owns.
So. Blitzø happens to decide to steal the book the same day of Stolas'wedding anniversary. His wife (who doesn't love him, and apparently is abusive towards him) is laughing at him, ridicules him in from of the guests. So Stolas drinks fucking absinthe, and while he's drinking, the guards bring Blitzø to him because he tried to break in.
Strong alcohol leads to bad decisions so somehow they end up in Stolas' room, Stolas flirting with Blitzø and Blitzø playing along because he wants the book that desperately. And kaboom they end up fucking. Next morning Blitzø leaves with the book, fucking crashes Stolas'wife with cake and so she knows of the infidelity.
So. After some time, Stolas'proposes that Blitzø can stay with the book on the condition that once a month he fucks him. But it's like nonsense because in the same book there's a spell that can grant free access to Earth without the necessity of the book so Stolas could have easily made that. But he didn't because apparently he enjoyed himself too much with Blitzø.
Their emotions to one another are a MESS. Specially considering both have daddy issues. Stolas sees Blitzø as an equal, but hell's social system is stuck into his head no matter how hard he tries. And Blitzø has severe inferiority complex, thinking of Stolas as very, very above him socially. And also, all previous romantic relationships Blitzø had were apparently a failure so he craves love but fears attachment.
So yeah. It's all a MESS. But it's a mess worth watching.
thank you for listening to my ted talk.
I have no idea of what that is, but trust be im loving to read all this my dearest
first i loved this universe???? ngl this whole thing rlly caught my attention wdym the nobility of hell??
omg them meeting each other #couplegoals
ngl you've basically converted me into wanting to watch it in the winter break from school like wtf it is just so good??? you've got me hooked up on this and i loved it
loved the ted talk btw. if ya ever need know that my inbox is always open :)
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kyogre-blue · 2 years ago
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So, about this new Jeht quest...
Maybe you've figured it out, so pls enlighten me if you did.
1) Why did Jeht turn into this brutal berserker in the first place? She was taught to be a fighter, sure, but she kinda went from 0 to 100 real quick as if she gained some extra strength.
2) What did Fatui need Jeht for? For what kind of experiments exactly? At first, I thought she went berserk because of fatui's experimentation, but it seems like she was already like this before they kidnapped her?
3) Why did Traveler just let Jeht go without offering any help? Like introducing her to Dehya idk. Or is it for the sake of the potential future quests with her? For example, Liloupar did say that we'll meet again, so there's that.
On the other hand, Hoyo really turned Jeht into a rabid dog of sorts, I'm kinda still processing what it was for though. When we meet her for the first time, she is a kind and curious girl, and now she is basically a psychopath 😶
Hm... OK, to be honest, I'm not particularly good at meta analysis, especially as far as characterization goes, so there's likely things I missed.
1)
I don't remember too well how Jeht was characterized during Golden Slumber, aside from her attachment to Jebrael and her ability to empathize with Benben well enough to understand it. You're right that, thinking back on it, her characterization is very different this time.
In regard to her being so extremely violent and dangerous in the final quest of 3.4, I do think it's in line with the rest of Dirge of Bilquis... for what that's worth.
The Tanit tribesmen calling her "wildcat" might sound cute and funny in another context, but think about what they're like. They're vicious murderers all the way through, so them going "she's so fiesty :)" carries a certain context. We also already knew that Jeht had killed multiple "traitors" on Babel's orders, and she turned on that one dude who wanted to marry her with basically no outward provocation. She suspected he was working with the Fatui and immediately went straight to murder. She might have also suggested violent solutions in passing during the rest of the journey..? tbh the dialogue was pretty... yeah, so I don't recall the details so much.
So her turning around and ripping apart the Fatui like that and needing to be fought before she calms down (though you don't have to deplete her health bar, it seems) is... consistent with this patch.
Very "violent savage" in a way I can't say I find appealing, but there you go.
As for whether this was always her character and we just didn't have opportunity to see it in Golden Slumber, whether her personality got retconned because they had a different kind of story to tell or the writer changed, or whether being treated as an attack dog by Babel twisted her, I really couldn't say.
(I do kind of think the writer change tho. It's just such a difference in tone and quality? Golden Slumber spent so much time on refuting that King Deshret was a vicious tyrant, that the desert people are brutish and vicious, and then we get this...? Weird to imagine it could have been done by the same person. )
2)
I don't think the Fatui needed her for anything specific. They seem to just pick up people for experimentation in general. Manga, at minimum, directly said that Dottore kidnaps people for mad scientist stuff, and that might have come up in other quests, iirc. I don't think they did anything to her before we rescued her, regardless.
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:) Because that would require the Traveler acting as a separate character and not just a viewpoint into the storyline.
It's because they were done with this quest and with Jeht. You can't take her with you, logistically, because she's an NPC and the game is structured around just Traveler and Paimon (the gacha is, as a reminder, entirely not canon). You can't take her to any of the archon quest characters, whether playable ones or NPCs, because you don't know whether players are doing this quest before or after the archon quest, since there is no prerequisite. You wanted to be dramatic and ruin her life, but picking up the pieces? Eh.
Just send her off into the desert, who cares, amirite.
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Thoughts journal about Season 13!! 💪💪 (1/4)
Phew, I actually made it to the English release without spoilers! 🤩 I do know general things about little plots for the ninja, hopefully nothing major! Finally, the Cole season we've all been waiting for, with Rock Mom and possibly plenty of our Earth baby development! COLE IN THE SPOTLIGHT AT LAST!! 🖤🖤
Well, I know I'll be shooting rainbows from my eyeballs if I see even one Nexo Knights reference! For the rest I don't really know what will happen, I'm curious! 🤔
It's the 6th of July, and here we go!!
GENERAL THOUGHTS
Is it just me or the dialogues sounds better? More built up, funnier, cohesive just like in the earliest seasons of Ninjago? Maybe it's just me but I'm really appreciating 🤷‍♀️
It also doesn't feel that rushed anymore! Which was my biggest problem in Prime Empire really. The episodes seem to me like fragments of a nice movie, not a too long story forced into 11 minutes. I'm very happy with the quality so far, I feel good about this for now! 👍
No matter what season it is, you can count on The Fold to make an AMAZING intro!! Freaking awesome, it was epic and very final battle like 👌👌 I WANT THE FULL VERSION ASAP!!!
SHINTARO
I do appreciate we are not forgetting about the adventures we had until now, it feels like from season 11 forward we are building a new backstory of. But they still show stuff from the very first seasons so I'm happy anyway 😍
Pff, Cole plays Prime Empire right after being trapped in it. And Lloyd joins in! YES!! Maybe there is hope for a season without greenie being traumatized! 👍👍
Also he's doing laundry because I DON'T WANNA DO THE DISHES NO MORE~ 😎
The chicken is back 😂 The constant reference to the movie we are all kinda attached to a this point (well I am, LOOK AT THE LITTLE HAT 💕💕)
Is it me being a "I've rewatched this show way too much" type of fan to feel that Nya saying that Jay using Spinjitzu for chores will get Wu mad might be a reference to how the guys had cleaned the very first Destiny Bounty with that? You think that Wu found out and got crazy mad? That would be kinda cool 😂😂
Okay, poor sensei and all, but he's kinda right 😅 I like Wu, I really do, but Aspheera was a problem kinda because of him, they all going to another dangerous realm could have been dealt a lot better if he hadn't been so on edge and in Prime Empire he freaking got kidnapped by NORMAL PEOPLE. Maybe he is getting old 🤷‍♀️
At last, he has returned...
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THE ONE AND ONLY RULER OF NINJAGO, THE POSTMAN!!! 💜💜💜 Was he missing since March of the Oni? I can't remember if he was around for the Aspheera part 🤔
Soooo, not to be that person, but a secret group of royals asking the ninja to meet them in a place that was never open for outsiders before then? Kinda... feels familiar... *SoG flashbacks* 😰
Okay, not the biggest fan of Misako, but her scolding Wu was kinda fun 🤣 Needed to change the animation for her to get a bit of personality apparently 😉
Ah, you left Pixal behind to let her do... chores. Well, if you guys are happy 😒
Ninja babies all excited ❤💚💙🖤🤍💦 Also I'm excited because there is FINALLY a white heart between the emoji! I didn't notice it until now, I just need a gray/maroon heart now 😍
Jay screaming NOT MADE UP cracked me up so much 😂😂 Gosh I love my bluebell
A bit of action scene, nice, nice, also Cole going full buddy mode to save Jay gives me my beautiful Bruise vibes 💙🖤💙🖤
Well hello Brian
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Looking good 💕💕 The designs are rocking in season 12 and 13, I cannot tell it enough! Super super cool
Overall nice episode, seemed more nicely focused than usual, I don't know if it's just me. I'm happy anyway 😁
Ooohhhh, so the sails were ripped off by the bats, and they were flying thanks to the soldier guys with wings. It makes sense, I was confused by the trailer, now there's the answer!
IN THE DARK
Okay, Vania introduction, I wonder what kind of princess we will get after last ti-
Vania: I'm such a big fan of you, I was the one that insisted at having you here! 🤩
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... besides the fact that she sounds and looks absolutely ADORABLE, I'm kinda with Lloyd about feeling suspicious... because that's exactly how Harumi introduced herself back then 😅 And away it goes, the possibility of Lloyd spending a season without feeling disturbed or traumatized...
Ah, there we go, Cole and Vania. Soft looks, instant attention and... that's it? Idk, Jay and Nya's meeting had that one very awkward color question (💙❤💙❤), Kai literally heard romantic music while looking at Sky (❤🧡❤🧡), Lloyd was being mocked all the way by the guys as he looked at Harumi (💚😰💚😰). This one seems a bit weak? I don't mind it actually, I'm actually a bit curious about how it will develop since it started like this 🤷‍♀️
References to Hiroshi's Labyrinth and the Tournament of Elements, my fangirl heart is happy 😍 Is it too much thinking that the maze was a reference to Shadow of Ronin, since they all went there in the game while in the show only Lloyd was at the Labyrinth? Idk 🤷‍♀️
JAY SAYING COLE IS HIS BEST FRIEND, YES!! YES!! FINALLY, HAVEN'T HEARD IT SINCE SKYBOUND!!! BROTP IS BACK 🖤💙🖤💙 Also Jay confused that Vania is interested in Cole, pff, you clearly don't know the fandom 😂
But it is a bit fishy, does she knows stuff? Now I'm into it...
Lloyd sneaking in, that was creepy 🤣 And ninja like, of course
I kinda like how this is going, Cole straight up saying dude, I just met her, calm down. Like, I do understand green bean and I'm kinda on his side, but still 🤷‍♀️
Cole: I'm not just gonna jump on the lovesick wagon like you weirdos, geez
"It felt like a cloud of warm contentment." I'm gonna use this whenever someone asks me why have I been in my bed all day 😎
I know they all believed Cole was just dreaming the purple guy, but honestly they could have just said "Cole, we had flaming snakes raining on Ninjago a few weeks ago, what are you so worked up about?". But yeah, ROCK MOM FINALLY!!! I wanna know more!! 😍😍😍
Mr Sparkles 😂😂 So cute
Vania is cool for now, she is basically the innocent Harumi without a scarring tragedy from her past changing her into a vengeful villain... yeah 😅
Did Cole notice that she talks a lot and loud, kinda like Jay? Is that why he seemed a bit annoyed? 😂😂
For now they don't seem that annoyingly into each other, they look chill, no major lovesick moment or anything. I like it, I don't know if this ship will be super important or something, but at least I'm happy they are dealing with it in a different way 👍
With all these creatures chained up and a crazy dude making them work, Cole must have one HECK of a flashback from back in Chen's island 😵
Okay, I get the drama, I get the lair which is
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Legit cool, with that nice Underworld vibe, but really? A wood door with ropes behind a lava fall? Security measures who? 😂😂
So Skull dude is the bad guy, and has a mask. People with masks means big reveal at some point. I like dudes with masks 😗
Aaaahhh, figures it was too easy being in a literal mine with the power of Earth. They really can't keep their powers for more than five seconds now can they 😂😂
But this seems interesting, is it connected with the burst thing they said in the trailer? Or even Cole's mom? Is this Skull Sorcerer connected to her? I HAVE QUESTIONS PEOPLE!!!
I am legit enjoying this 👌 They are building up questions and I do hope we'll get a good flashback moment with Rock mom... or even finding out if something else happened to her... EXCITED 🤩🤩
So to be the main ninja of a season lately you have to be either without powers (Kai Fire Chapter) or trapped in an unknown place (Zane Ice Chapter and Jay Prime Empire). Cole got them both 😅
IT REALLY IS ROCKY'S SEASON FINALLY 😎😎
WORST RESCUE EVER
Mm, the king is being weird, what's up with this mountain thing? Does he know who the Skull Sorcerer is? QUESTIONS
So Vania keeps being extremely adorable, I think I really like her character 💕 We'll see what will happen with her, how she will interact with the others, especially Lloyd since he seems very suspicious... can't really blame him 😅
Kai ready to argue with a king because one of his friend is in danger, THAT'S MY FLAME BABE ❤❤❤
Okay, the conflict between the two tribes, I read about this in some plots of the season. Not sure how that will play, but
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I did laughed at this 😂 Sorry Mole
Okay, seriously, have we not learned anything from letting Kai come up with a plan? The notoriously bad planner Kai? The think before talking Kai? The let's follow the sun because yes Kai? I love him to dead but really, it was meant to go bad right away even if the title wasn't that 😅😅😅
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT EMOTIONAL AT COLE'S NINJA-GO WHILE DOING SPINJITZU?? 😭😭 They don't say it that much anymore before spinning, it kinda hit my tornado shaped heart 🖤🖤
I expected at least a comment about them being similar to the Skulkin, too bad. Not fundamental though, I'm really enjoying this so far 👍
Well, all of the ninja are trapped now 😅 Is Wu going to come for the rescue? Is Vania? I know they will be separated and will all go on separated quests, and I'm kinda more looking forward to it now. Let's see what happens!! 🤩
THE TWO BLADES
Considering how big of a fan Vania seems to be of the ninja, I bet she had those figures way before this moment 😂
Wooooo, hearing someone addressing Cole as the leader, does this count as a major throwback to pilots and season 1? I would make it count 😍
Okay here Vania does seem into Cole, we'll see how that plays out 🤷‍♀️
Ooooooooohhhhhh, vengestone! This actually make more sense than the last two times they were left without powers 😅 We never actually saw where that material came from, and here there's an actual mine full of it! Very cool, I like this! Big question is, what does Skull dude need all this vengestone for? 🤔🤔
Okay, the legends fits, sounds good enough but... she? SHE?!? WAS THAT ROCK MOM??? She was clearly a ninja and she did spinjitzu!! I didn't even considered the possibility, I only saw Misako, Doubloon and Aspheera knowing Spinjitzu before!! An actual mom?? THAT WOULD BE EPIC!! 🖤
Pff, these tribes are a bunch of idiots, I actually like them 😂 I like them better than the rats of Prime Empire that's for sure, but maybe that's just me 🤔
Aww, this Mino creature is cure! Cole did pretty good with him, does he remind him of Rocky? ☹
Nice, this I was waiting for! Cole and Lloyd together, leaders collaboration 💚🖤💚🖤 It didn't last much, but I think there will be more of it? I HOPE SO!!!
So the blades must be somewhere hidden, if they really have been taken by the Skull Sorcerer. I mean, even in Prime Empire they thought for sure Unagami was Dyer, so I wouldn't jump on it right away 🤔
There we go, the divided team! I knew about Kai and Zane stuck together, I remember stuff not too promising about Nya having to fight for Jay, but I'm honestly really enjoying the season so far! I like the pace and it doesn't seem as rushed as before! I hope we get to some good plot twists and backstories soon!! 🤩🤩
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Hi! It's me again! Idk if this will be as long as the others but it'll be something! Jimin finally deciding to stick up for y/n right after she quit us like, its basically nothing like he stood up for her yeah but he didn't do it when it actually counted. Idk I just can't get behind Jimin, he emotionally manipulated y/n (from what I understood please correct me if I'm wrong) and lead her on while also keeping her at a distance 1/?
2/? Jimin and y/n no longer being fwb seems to be doing y/n good. She’s spending her time with people who are willing to invest in her and her life and from what I’ve seen she seems to be doing better. I know that she probably has stuff to work through both from being with Jimin and from the status of her role within the company but I think that with Namjoon and Jin and Yoongi and even Hoseok that she’ll be able to grow and become more confident and all that was to say Jimin what are you doing??
3/? Like I know that there was something between Jimin and y/n and I know that they were in love with each other but Jimin continuously pushed her away so it just doesn’t sit right with me that he’s now sort of showing the behavior that is expected between people who are real close to being a serious thing. Bndnsks I was going to make this ask about Yoongi and I ended up talking about Jimin wow but y/n deserves an award for not breaking down during that confrontation like I would have been gone
4/? Okay okay onto Yoongi now,,,, mans has feelings and doesn’t even realize it. Dang. Like, he’s increasingly gotten more and more comfortable around y/n and the same goes the other way around. They’re relaxing more into each other and into the relationship and it’s slowly edging it’s way past fake towards real. At the beginning, Yoongi protecting y/n and making sure she got out okay and then checking up on her both in the car and back at her apartment like he’s willingly showing his affection
5/ he’s showing his affection and showing that he cares for y/n and for Hoseok and Hoseok knows!!! He can tell that Yoongi is falling and falling hard and he’s the most supportive dude like ever. Also petition for y/n to work with Hoseok and his music be credited properly or or for Yoongi to just release some of what he did with y/n without telling anyone hahaha like yeah he’s get in trouble but y/n would be credited… Dilemma dilemma dilemma. But! Yeah Yoongi is really paying attention and
6/6 I cannot remember where I left off so like, Yoongi is taking care of y/n and y/n is starting to try to do the same so like it’s so soft and I cannot wait for them to get together and be in a healthy relationship and all of that good stuff. That is all!! I loved the new chapter!!! It really added a other later of realness to everyone’s character and it really showed a clear relationship between everyone. (Hello I have to go off anon to send this I’m sorry)
Omg you have no idea how happy these messages make me!!!🥺❤️ (bc of the way I format the asks I didn’t have to post your url, but if you’d like to remain anon or go by your url in the future that’s completely up to you!! nonetheless nice to meet you in a way! 🥰😚)
You’re absolutely right, that this singular moment of Jimin standing up for Y/N really isn’t anything outwardly significant! I think once more about Jimin’s perspective of everything is revealed, why he refrained so much and said nothing at all for Y/N will make more sense! I don’t necessarily think everyone will think his perspective will warrant complete change of opinion on his character, but it’s not as black and white as it can seem right now!! we saw a brief moment of him exiting Yerin’s office, hmmmmm.. 
As for the emotional manipulation aspect, I personally don’t believe nor did I intend for Jimin’s character to do this towards Y/N. (As far as the literal definition of emotional/psychological manipulation, this doesn’t seem to fit their relationship dynamic to me either, but in some respects I could be wrong!) Their relationship is a big mixture of a lot of different problems to me (it’s been touched on that Y/N is actually the one who instigated the FWB relationship between the two of them before the start of the story). While Jimin definitely should’ve put it on the table about his opinion on Y/N’s career in SoundWave, it actually didn’t take him years to admit this. They’ve been seeing each other for about two years, but only around a half a year before the start of the story has Y/N started showing noticeable animosity towards her contract. Like I said, Jimin should’ve verbalized his stance sooner, but in some ways because of their emotional attachment to one another I think it’s sort of reasonable that he put it off so long? Both of them avoided the communication that would’ve caused their relationship’s breaking point for a long time!
I leave the topic of Jimin by simply saying: that one moment wasn’t his redemption in the grand scheme of things, it, like his thoughts in chapter 11, are a show of more to come! : )
As for Min Softie himself… yes he’s our oblivious boy…. doesn’t even realize himself LOL Ahhhh the joys of fake relationship where characters blur the line of where fake stops and real begins…. These two people are easing into one other chapter by chapter, you’re right! They’re …..🥺Also best friend Hobi and duo-friends Joon and Jin are 🥺 just hoping for the best with their friends truly 🥺🥺 I’m really glad that you enjoyed this chapter, as it’s ending was definitely made with the intention to highlight the beginning of complication within the company now that news of Y/N’s soon-leave spreas, among Yoongi’s concerns of helping her out, and, for better or worse, Jimin has properly learned of Y/N quitting as well now so 🤩🤩 in the words of Guk “Let’s get it!!” 
Again thank you so much for sending such long comments about the chapter and your thoughts of the characters and things to come!! They make me so happy, you’re truly an angel🥺💘
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