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[the-cat-chat]

April 15, 2023

It Chapter Two (2019)

Twenty-seven years after their first encounter with the terrifying Pennywise, the Losers Club have grown up and moved away, until a devastating phone call brings them back.

JayBell: Since we decided to do Stephen King month, we thought we might as well finally watch the sequel to It (which we watched the previous Halloween). When this movie came out, I remember people being disappointed by it, so I went into it with my expectations pretty low.

With that said--yikes. I’ve never read the book, so I don’t know how much they stuck to the book or not. Either way, the plot was just bad. Half of the movie is the group of kids (now adults) revisiting the past and trying to “remember” the events of the first movie. It was as if they had a bunch of unused scenes from the first movie and thought, “well let’s just stick these scenes in the sequel and call it a day.” It was boring. And honestly I’m not sure what these scenes really added to their characters, with the exception of Richie’s character (Finn Wolfhard/Bill Hader).

And don’t get me started on the stupid ritual stuff. [redacted]. The movie also gives us this quasi-origin for Pennywise with his daughter and the picture on the wall. But it’s vague and then never brought up again. Beverly doesn’t even mention it to the rest of the group. Like “hey guys you’ll never believe who I saw in a picture at some old lady’s house!” Nope. It doesn’t mean anything and the info has no bearing on events.

And the love triangle again, my god. Spare me. The movie doesn’t even provide any new development to the relationship between Beverly and Ben. No. It’s just about this stupid poem he wrote to her when he was a kid. Ugh.

The only good thing about this movie was that the adult actors had much better banter between them, especially compared to the kids in the first movie. And Bill Hader did provide some humor. He was definitely the best part of the movie.

Oh I haven’t even talked about the ending. [redacted]...so it’s completely stupid. Like we kill the clown by hurting his feelings and making him feel insecure? Ughhhhhh. And the overly sentimental send off for the kids come on.

Rating: 2.5/10 cats 🐈

Anzie: This movie feels like it broke me. I know I say that a lot, but I really mean it this time. I have so much to say, yet nothing at all. Let’s start with the positives. I wanted to see the sequel in all honesty bc Bill Hader was the grown up version of Richie. And I love him and think he’s soooo funny. I’m sad to report that’s not enough. (Remember THIS is the positive). That’s it that’s the positive. Oh and the ending the ending is realllllly great. Like the actual ending. She. The torture is over.

Nooow. I felt confused the whole time. Not like I didn’t know what was going on - I just didn’t know whyyy. That’s the whole 3 hours I will never get back. Asking why?? Why would you do it?? Gross fortune cookie baby fly spider things? The weird leper with the tongue? I get, I really do but still. I hate it. Mind you I totally forgot everyone else hated- but the hate is justified for obvious reasons. The majority of the movie is trying to figure the which kids match to the grown up version- then whyyyy they can remember anything- yet Stan did?? Right?? Does that make anyyyy sense???? How did he if the others didn’t? Was he still in Derry??? Whatever. And then they ALL split up??? They do know this crazy clown wants to kill them AGAIN?? And I stilllllll have no clue why they have the story of Pennywise being an immigrant that then joined the circus??? Since it’s something entirely different that I can’t figure out - bc whatever IT is takes form of a very specific thing- and whatever IT was to an ancient civilization IT is a clown when it comes to Derry, Maine. Makes sense clowns are terrifying. But heyyy even worse is his giant spider legs. Oh and when he shrivels into a gross little baby clown when they shoot him down and tell him he’s nothing. Like honestly- between allll of them seeeeeing their worst fears and memories- they couldn’t have pieces it together quicker. And did we really need anymore of the dumb romance stuff agggaaain.

Honorable mention to the freakish naked granny and Stan being turned into a weird head on spider legs. Really didn’t need that in my life. Thanks.

Rating: 0.1/10 Cats 🐈 (that’s me being generous)

[no-she-wasnt-reddie]

Me in the theater watching Eddie die, knowing well enough that it’s gonna happen since I read the book

[faeriescorpio]

nothing will ever top how funny it was when I tried writing an avengers time travel fic and I made the title “Stephen Strange Do Not Interact” 

[dachi-chan25]

So i finally watched It chapter 2...

DISCLAIMER: So I know most of y'all don't like anyone to critizise anything u like, right of the bat I am telling u I did NOT liked this movie at all, there are changes I thought were good ideas but most of it was just plain terrible in MY opinion and I need to vent. If u share my opinión or find my rage amusing read on.

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I had been putting off watching this movie, cuz in 2017 I enjoyed the 1st IT movie but I had a TON of issues with it (Mike's complete erasure, Stan being a completely different character, The Losers Club moments being sacrificed to cool sounding one-liners, WTF happened to Henry Bowers and Alvin Marsh, Bev being overly sexualized, etc, etc) so I was on the fence about this one. The cast is what finally caught my attention but then I heard very mixed reviews about it, and as I am starting on a new job I hadn't had the time to go and watch it til now and oh boy was I disappointed.

First off, we have to ask ourselves was Adrian Melon's murder scene really that necessary??? I understand what they used it for in the movie (to make a R3ddi3 reference /as a side note I do not care for the ship or any other IT ship tbh i write it like this cuz i don't want this post to invade the ship tag) but the characters involved are never mentioned again and it was too gratuitous (like we can have a homophobic hate crime, slurs thrown around all the time but we can't have the gay ship this movie was going for saying they love each other in a straightforward manner??? I know this is an unpopular opinion but I am not giving Muschietti props for doing the gay closeted ship for the 1000th time, if u were gonna do it go for it!!! Do right by the characters, hell in the book they get more tenderness and they are never explicitly gay, Eddie is heavily coded as gay or asexual and Richie is super bisexual) like my queer ass is tired of seeing gay ppl die in violent gruesome ways all the time.

While I love Bill Skarsgard's performance, the excess of CGI and all those jumpscares and strobe lights, actually take away from his performance, he is super scary and eerie when he is talking and even being friendly but super hillarious and plain silly when he is actually trying to be scary or when he is eating, it looked too wierd.

TBH whyyy was Tom Rogan in this?? Muschietti had already changed Alvin Marsh from being physically violent to being a sexual predator (everything they changed from Bev took away from her character, like we can have her smoking and flirting w Mr Keene but we can't have her teaching Richie how to use his yo-yo or winning in a fucking video game or drawing or anything that remotely has to do with her character) why was Tom necessary?? Hell we could have skipped that and have Bev in Kay's house telling her all that happened instead, I mean if he wasn't gonna die in the sewer why is he even a character? It was so easy to erase him and have Kay instead. Also how tf did Alvin survive???

Whyyy do that to Audra??? I fucken hate Muschietti, was it necessary to justify Bill cheating on her??? Nope, we could have simply have Bill not kiss Beverly and that’s it, also I am kinda salty Audra is not part of the plot.

Lmao Henry, like he fell on the fucken pipe and you could hear his fucken bones breaking and craking and he gets to get up and walk home????????? Whyyy y y , Muschietti ????

We never really got to see how deeply ingrained Pennywise is in the town, he is actually Derry. And if Muschietti thinks he fixed the wtf ending everyone complained about in the 90's adaptation he is on fucken drugs, this ending is super messed up and has nothing to do with the book or with anything at all, we never get to know what exactly is Pennywise, his true form it's a clown spider apparently or something cuz the death lights were there but not really ???

STAN was fucken robbed (again) last time he was completely ereased, he was physically there on the scenes but that’s it, his personality was null. And his thing, the thing that made him comit suicide was the fact that he was the one to see the death lights, the most logical and disbelieving of them faced something far beyond anyone's comprehension and they gave that to Bev?? And the death lights apparently gave her Final Destination abilities? ?????

Eddie was robbed. Of so so much. Muschietti fuck you. Frist off why isn't Eddie the CEO of some app like Uber like he was the Losers Club compass he was a great fucking driver, he loved sports (I actually got excited when they had this scene with the baseball game cuz i thought it was gonna be an Eddie scene but nope) y not connect that with this Token bs Muschietti pulled off his ass (this is actually a great idea, and could symbolize the Losers' lost childhood IF Muschietti had been assed to give them significance or something in part 1) His death scene. Just why? Why are his last words a cheap joke instead of a love confession, fuck it Muschietti if u wanted R3ddi3 have the courage to really do it (in the books the Losers take turns to carry his body out of the sewer cuz they will not leave him there, that's more meaningful than them diving) One of his most beautiful quotes is something Bill is writing??? Lmaoooo Bill wishes he could have thought up that (I love Bill but come the fuck on)

Why make such a huge deal out of B3nv3rly or r3ddi3 when the point of it all was that the Losers Club all loved each other, apart from whatever romantic feelings, they found a family in one another and they really erased that in this movie, I was like y are this ppl friends with each other. Mike drugged Bill, Richie was awfull to everyone, they barely had a conversation in the restaurant (biihhh the 90s miniseries does this better) and show no respect for Mike at all ( I mean I am not surprised cuz Muschietti has no respect for Mike as a character at all) or bill like nah son.

Stephen King cameo was there I guess, it was fine.

The Kiss me fat boy, of all things u could have taken from the 90's miniseries why that?????

Ben building the house club by himself ???? Bullshit, Muschietti ereased another great Losers Club bonding time and hate him for it.

MIKE, I AM ENRAGED. So Muschietti is braver than King for making R3ddi3 "canon" but he destroyed Mike's entire character and that is fine with y'all mmmmm. His parents were "crackheads" apparently cuz it's not like that is a stereotype black ppl have carried on for years on end, he did not go to school, he was not the historian but now he is cuz he had to stay and he is crazy and obsesive and drugs Bill and also stole from a native american tribe???? FUCK this so fucken much I hate it with all my being .

How does such a choppy movie manage to drag on forever??? Like there were still 45 Min left and I was bored out of my mind. Why is the final arc so bad??? Like some much stuff that could have actually gotten away with erasing (Paul Bunyan, whyyy it was so silly, it doesn't even work in the book, but fine like King was super high he barely remembers writing it, why take it to the big screen u should have sticked to him being afraid of clowns like u had already messed up) and added and could have added things that actually enriched the adaptation.

I just give up. Like if they do a 3rd one like it's rumored I won't see it, Muschietti clearly does not know how to be subtle or to have meaningful character arcs, he is just good for cheap jumpscares, one líners and yo mama jokes so I pass. I really hoped the up coming King adaptations are better than this one. That being said the movie had real fun/enjoyable moments, if this were not an adaptation I would have liked it a hella lot more than I did but alas nope.

[atamascolily]

Apparently, I only re-read Harry Potter when I’m sick/not feeling well, but I just want to say here that Order of the Phoenix is probably my favorite book in large part because of all the cracks that are developing in the facade of the image of the Perfect Wizarding World we’ve been presented with previously, and also how Delores Umbridge is the Scariest Villain Ever (Stephen King agrees!) and a Big Boss Battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort at the end. I like that Harry is angry and unsettled and impetuous and Messes Everything Up as a result, I like his fledgling relationship with Cho, even if it’s truncated because Plot Demands It

But really, it’s all the opportunities for innuendo and unfortunate implications, like Ginny and the twins chanting “He got off, he got off, he got off” when Harry is exonerated, that make this book my favorite, because I am just that petty and immature.

Other thoughts:

I am far more interested in the adventures of Hermione, Neville, and Luna than anything Harry and Ron ever do. Also Tonks, Tonks is the best, and she deserved better.

So did Cho, for that matter.

Wow, there’s a lot of shouting in this book, isn’t there?

Why are we supposed to like the twins again?

Why does Hermione put up with all of Ron and Harry’s shit and do all their homework for them for six years?? Harry would be dead several billion times over if she didn’t continually have his back.

Has anyone noticed all the Meaningful Names? Or is this like how all the evil people end up in Slytherin, there’s just a huge blind spot and absolutely no one is genre-savvy

Even the Sorting Hat (!!!) admits in OotP that it’s not a good idea to divide the houses up like this!!! WTF, Hogwarts.

So in my younger days, I was Team Ravenclaw, but now I am Team Hufflepuff all the way: teach everyone because it’s the right thing to do instead of picking your favorites!!!

I would have much rather had a book seven about Neville, Ginny, and Luna fighting the Carrows at Hogwarts than the actual book seven.

Is the Room of Requirement a story breaker? Discuss.

Ron policing Ginny’s sexuality is so not cool and endearing, WHYYY?

Also, I can see Rowling trying to frame Hermione and Ron’s fights as jealousy/sexual tension and just... stop. Please stop. I don’t hate this pairing, but it’s really not endearing behavior. tbh, I don’t know why the hell Hermione broke up with Viktor Krumm.

I can see Ron being okay with house elves because he grew up in the wizarding world and wasn’t taught any different, but why the hell is Harry so accepting of house elf slavery? Why is Hermione the only one who looks at this and decides to do something about it??

the world-building in this series makes no senses, aaagghh, send help

It doesn’t surprise me that Rowling writes mystery novels--I think of the Harry Potter books as mysteries with a fantastic setting rather than typical fantasies, and it explains a lot about the aforementioned world-building... 

I like how malleable prophecies are, how Voldemort ends up creating his own adversary. That’s karma for you... but it does make me wish Harry and Rowling would both be nicer to Neville.

[lurkofficial-blog]

Chapter Eight

~~~ Dr. Miya's POV ~~~ The scientist thoughtfully walks along the branched flooring of Exxy's treehouse, taking in the dedication put into the structure. He nods his head towards every detail, definitely conjuring up some questions to ask the large lurk later.

After exploring most of it, Dr. Miya looks towards the picture Exxy warned him not to touch. His curiosity gets the best of him, making him crouch down in front of the small, torn photograph. He picks it up carefully, trying not to damage it further. The picture itself depicts a woman with her dark brown hair pulled back in a bun, a gentle smile on her face. Beside her, with an arm around her, is a sophisticated young man with a large mustache, glasses, and a head of curly black hair. In front of them is a young boy, no older than the age of three, with curly dark brown hair and a big smile, also bearing glasses. Stephen's expression softens. This must be Exxy's family, he thinks, placing the photograph back down under an old vine. I can understand why he didn't want me near it. Poor kid. Movement makes the scientist leap out of his skin, stumbling over to the opening in the branched ground. He first sees Exxy's eyes glinting up at him and waves quickly. "Come on down for a second," the lurk calls to him. "All right!" Dr. Miya rushes out of the treehouse and lands lightly upon the ground, brushing himself off. As he looks back up to face the lurks, his eyes widen at the sight of two kids he'd never hoped to see ever again. "Why, uh, hello--" He begins hesitantly. He's instantly cut off. "Miya!" a feminine high-pitched voice screeches. Stephen freezes. Unnaturally tall, dark skin covered in bony plates, unsettling smile....he knows all too well whom this is. The girl holds her wide grin as she rushes towards the scientist, stopping short just barely an inch away from him and causing Stephen to instantly stumble back with an alarmed yelp. "So they weren't bluffing! You really are here!" the girl shrieks. "As if you can just show up again after what you did to us! After what you did to me!" She reaches one of her arms towards the tree behind Dr. Miya, setting her long, gnarled claws lightly on the trunk. The bladelike spikes protruding from her forearm gleam threateningly from where they are just in front of Stephen's nose. "And whyyy were you here, may I ask? More lurk activity?? Is that it??" She peers directly into his eyes. "It is, isn't it? You came after these other kids! After these other kids whom you've turned into terrible monsters!" "I didn't!" He exclaims in total shock before he realizes his mistake. "I mean, I... I did at first, but I'm not going to hurt anyone! Not them, not you!" "Oh, here we go again," the other familiar lurk says from beside Exxy. He looks angry, but not nearly as much as the lisping demonic girl, who's panting. "More lies, of course. Why did we decide to try to talk again, Nighty? This is pointless." "No," Stephen replies swiftly. "No, I want to talk. I want you two to know how I've changed and to stop jumping to conclusions about people!" "Hahaha, that's funny!" the girl exclaims, turning away from him and letting out a loud, eerily high-pitched laugh. "You're trying to tell us not to jump to conclusions? About you? Someone who tortured us and kept us prisoner??" Someone who chained a thirteen-year-old down and kept her in confinement?? You told me I was too dangerous just by existing, Miya!" Stephen's eyes catch movement coming from just behind the fox passive, Ren. A big, frightened blue eye peeks out at him timidly; the wolf shade, Colin, seems to be attempting to hide behind her. "I----Gosh, I didn't know it was---I didn't know things were this bad," the little shade mutters. "Look, I..." He doesn't even know what to say. What can he say that these two will believe? "I get it. You don't trust me, I understand." He sighs and hangs his head down. "Isn't there some way for me to make up for it, though? If i can't persuade you through words, how else can I gain your trust?" The tall girl's lips curl into a wide scowl as she brings down her arm and steps away from the tree. "What would be nice is if you never did any of this in the first place," she says, "but too late now!" The shade boy speaks up again hesitantly, his voice so quiet that Stephen can barely hear it. "Can-----I----Would it, uh----Could you m-m-maybe go and maybe, uh, I dunno----t-talk to my mom, maybe, so she'll let me back home?" The idea hits Dr. Miya like a tidal wave. Let him back home. Let him back into society. That requires cooperation with the people. Laws to be passed. Janet can manage that and get a bill going, since she's part of the legislature. Get to LASED to start it all. Let him back home. "I think I can manage that, Colin," he says instantly. Upon hearing this, Colin inches out from behind Ren a little more, his ears perked up and his tail swishing back and forth a bit. "Wait---You----You can? You really----really will, you mean?" "I assure you that I can, little shade," Dr. Miya replies confidently. He's not going to lose the trust of this lurk, especially not when he's barely just met him. When all odds are against him, he fights back with logic. "Of course, this will take time, but that's something we have. I'm going to get you back home, one way or another." He hesitates, softening his expression and looking back at Nightfall and Cameron. "I... I probably should've said this as soon as I first saw you, but I'm really, really sorry." He gives an apologetic smile. "I'll make it up to you two, too." "This is all joyful news," Exxy says, looking down at Colin with a solemn expression, "but let's focus on what we can handle currently, okay?" He gently runs a single claw through the shade's curly purple hair, looking a bit uneasy. Stephen can't blame him; the scientist has a tendency to get over-excited about things very quickly. Colin frowns, but smiles softly when Exxy runs his claw through his hair. He sighs and narrows his wide eyes, looking as if he's trying to think. "W-W-Well," he speaks up quietly, "Okay, we can do that, so----" He hesitates. "I just----don't want you, er, Dr. Miya, and Nightfall and Cameron, I mean, to hate each other, or any of us to be mean----so, uh, do you think we can just----tell about ourselves?" He gives Dr. Miya an unsure look. "I can----go first, if you want." "That's probably best," Stephen says in a low voice, looking down. "You all should make friends. It's the best thing to do." ~~~ Colin's POV ~~~ "S-So, that's bas-basically what happened to me," Ren finishes. "And---I t-think that's all three of us." "Interesting," says Dr. Miya, leaning up against the treehouse as he messes with his infrared goggles. He looks over to Nightfall. "I'm sure they'd love to know more about you, One." Nightfall growls, baring her long fangs. "My name's not One," the demonic girl says, "it's Nightfall. Because I'm the one who freed all the children you imprisoned." She pauses. "After I escaped, I tried to go back home--my brother said he'd be coming back from college--but I guess he did that while I was gone." She glares at Dr. Miya. "My family moved. I couldn't find them in our old apartment. They must've gotten somewhere better with that sum you gave them. They must've. They sold me for that money, so they must've." Colin's a bit surprised to hear how low and solemn her voice suddenly is. Nightfall gives a long sigh. "I had nowhere to go, so I left. I traveled all around the East! Slept during the day and ran by night, hunted and stole for food---it was---a sad life. I was free, but I was just as alone as I was before." She looks towards Cameron, letting a soft smile creep onto her face. "Then I ended up here!" Cameron flashes a smile as well, showing off braces. "Haha, yeah! I was not expecting to see you here. Uh, after the whole Project Nightfall thing, I stole a motorcycle and went back to Mexico City to meet my siblings again! My brother was in Georgia, at his college, though. My sister and I also traveled a lot and..." He stops speaking for a moment, his blank white eyes widening even more. His fluffy ears drop down and the smile he tried holding quickly disappears. He puts his hands on his head and yells, "Oh, shit! I rode on that motorcycle here and rammed it into a tree! I completely forgot about my sister!"