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[anantaru]

I'm so sorry you're dealing with getting dragged into tee drama but she definitely seems to have a habit of exaggerating the truth, like leaving her post vague enough for people to harass you because they might conclude you wrote some sa fantasy thing when it was literally... a two word sentence that honestly just made me think of whiskey dick not sa is ridiculous. she clearly wanted people to attack you and I think everyone should remember tee seems to genuinely enjoy seeing other people getting relentlessly bullied. she's dragged that garoujo person through the mud for literally over a year with the same tired topics that have already been apologized for and surrounds herself with other mean petty people like dottores and that rozentias person who also enjoyed shitting on people who were just minding their business writing. they have to recognize that subposting and vague blogging and the #1 way to piss people off, nobody's stupid we all know when someone's shit talking no matter how vague they are about it and it ALWAYS gets back to the person they're talking about. its happened so many times now like can't they learn their lesson? gossip and catty behavior only leads to shit like this

all that to say, someone like tee who's been involved in drama and has had like seven blogs in the last three years isn't someone I'd look to as being reliable or truthful with any information. If anything it looks like she's hopping so many blogs because she keeps starting shit and doesn't anticipate people like you who are actually willing to stand up for themselves so she just runs away. But I'm glad to see you standing up for yourself and I hope people leave you alone because tee is just a liar and a manipulator atp

hello love 💓 honestly, i agree with you just from what i have seen saetoru do to other of my moots + all the reblogs on emmie's post! i have texted with cat today and she was very kind and reasonable with me, i don't think she is a bad person at all, we have both ended it on good terms so i do believe that we were both set up to dislike each other by a third party, i have nothing against her and although she did subpost and do some questionable things, i stand by that she is a great person! 😊 but saetoru, i really cannot say the same, aside on what she did to emmie and keeps bringing up drama from years ago (which she has defended emmie for when they were moots still) because there isn't anything else you could use, yeah, weird. not to mention how she tried to frame me for something i didn't do and hasn't added proof either. alas, it is what it is, i will forever stand up for myself and i'm not scared of a random girl on the internet with four million blogs on here, if you support saetoru though, unfollow me. 😊💓

[hotchs-big-hands]

https://www.tumblr.com/hotchs-big-hands/729287103786188800/is-it-petty-that-i-unfollowed-someone-cuz-they

I don’t think it’s petty! Like you said, everyone is free to have their own opinions and to follow/unfollow people as they please (unless they remove you as a follower first) :)

I will say that it kind of sounds like we’re on the same side, though? Aaron could have tried to figure out the work/life balance, and Haley could try to see his side of things/assist with finding that balance. Neither of them called it sooner, because they didn’t stop loving each other at any point and they just kept trying to make it work. No one is saying that either of them are 100% innocent or 100% guilty.

The problem is in people loudly hating Haley; not hating her as a person. Rather, hating her as someone who wasn’t content to play ignored housewife for the rest of her life while constantly worrying about her husband getting killed at work or something, and someone who spoke up about being unhappy with the situation

Everyone’s got their opinions. Mine is that Haley has the right to want a present partner/husband/father of her child, especially after having him be present for literal decades before that, and I’m simply against the opinion that she’s some godawful bitch for asking for that

Omg noooo I didn't expect you to see this :((( I'm rly sorry abt this! I'm embarrassed now KDKDKD

I get your points tho! I think like you can either love her or hate her, the two of them weren't made to be together in the end which is sad cuz they obvs were extremely and deeply in love. I just think they really shoulda had a big talk abt what he wanted and what she wanted long ago, way before marriage. Maybe when he was going to law school. He was never going to have an easy lifestyle with the job he wanted, he shoulda been more firm abt this fact. And Haley shoulda been more forward and kind to herself with the fact that she wants more time with him, someone she knows is going to come home at a reasonable hour, and eventually when they had Jack, someone to be a parent too. But it just didn't happen. And so idk I just think that they were both wrong in the end. Aaron isn't a bad person for wanting to do what he's doing, Haley isn't a bad person for wanting what she wants. Both are bad for not communicating and staying in this marriage.

I guess what bothered me was calling fans misogynistic for hating her ? I suppose maybe some of the extreme haters could be but it's not really something I should get into.

Anyway tho I didn't expect you to reach out and now I feel like a clown unfollowing sksksksksk I'm sorry about this! I really hope NO ONE goes to your dms/asks/mentions or the op of the post's to send shitty comments and just generally be a cunt abt this. It's all fiction, we shouldn't attack one another over it. Differing opinions is just how the world works!

Anyway, I hope you're having a good day and again I'm very sorry about this!!!

[ask-serendipity-sky]

That thing with Holland is so sick. I've been seeing armys do bs for a long time but this genuinely made me ill.

Harassing a queer idol because the fetishizers in your fandom won't stop harassing him? Of course he named them, he's obviously getting requests from one group the most. They're so proud of being the biggest kpop ship - they should own this too. Why act innocent and naive now? And they all managed to completely ignore the point he was trying to make about how insane it is that these people are trying to forcefully out their faves even if they were actually not straight.

I just unfollowed every army I used to follow. They're either shifting the blame onto him or staying silent. They'll speak about a bunch of things when they need to virtue signal and it costs them nothing, they'll get into fights about the most stupid stuff with other fandoms, but the moment you can actually use your clout for something and speak on how awful it is that your fandom is essentially bullying a gay artist who we know has gone through so much - literal hate crimes - because he came out, you're completely silent? ARMYs have lost all sense of proportion, logic and morality.

The hypocrisy also strikes me because they'll go around naming pjms every day of the week. They always drag Jimin into fanwars. I don't see anyone saying let's not use his name then other than by solos themselves. But this isn't even the first time they've shielded tkkrs. They'll drag up random accounts with hardly any followers and a handful of likes and talk about solos infecting the fandom but god forbid anyone talk about tkkrs unless it's in the most general way so that you can sweep it away as a shipping thing.

And this discourse about namedropping is also ridiculous. They have 70K+ Jimin anti tkk shipper and 300K+ tkk shipping porn accounts running around freely. They tag JK in all their gross edits on Tiktok. We all saw them waving around the tkk banner during Jimin's bday event. Nobody had much to say about it except Jimin biased.

Plus do they actually think Tae and JK don't know? They just need to look at their comments during their lives to find out what tkk is. What are they even talking about? They've nursed these Jimin anti delusional shippers in their fandom for years but the problem is when others point that out?

I actually prided myself on following a variety of people so I'm never too enmeshed in any one group think. I used to follow ARMYs, shippers, solos and other KPop fandom accounts from my main but I'm done now. I was actually so proud that the fandom was being so active in speaking up about the Palestine cause but if your sense of mortality can't tell you how wrong what is happening now to Holland is and if you are too scared to sacrifice clout to speak up for him, then I can't take anything you say seriously. Sorry to bring up a serious real world issue in the midst of all this but what happened yesterday just tells me that if you can't stand up for a queer idol for petty bs fandom reasons or because you don't want to get involved when you know it's wrong (because I was very careful in curating my tl so I know the armys I used to follow at least have that much sense) then there's no way you'd actually do anything if were to cost you something in real life.

So yeah I still listen to BTS, I still like all the members but I'm done with 'army'.

Hello,

This was a tough read.

I can feel your anger and dissapointment and the only thing I can say is that I feel the same way.

It's "small" things like these that tell you who people really are and they are a sign of the person you could become. It may seem silly because it's kpop but it's real people with real struggles with real hate.

You don't have to be army or pjm or a shipper. None of those names mean a thing at the end of the day. Support what you want and stand up for what you believe.

I get you 🫂

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[slow-button-off]

I really don't mind my askbox being a place to vent but like please learn how to read before you start attacking me once again for things I have not said.

Why do you keep talking abt people who don't like Max? Is it illegal? Must we like him at all costs? Like wtf mind your business

You're the same person that said Lewis complimenting another driver is petty and that he's not traumatized by racial abuse, right?

Please point me to where I have said that.

I quite vividly remember my last post saying this: "You might think Max is the devil’s incarnate but why are you not happy for Charles that it isn’t toxic?"

My last post was just simply about the fact that I don't get that people hate Max so much they want it to be shit for Charles. A guy that had nothing to do with last year. Who you also like otherwise you wouldn't be on my blog to comment on a post that has no obvious tags.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Max used ableist language and said racist slurs (even the ONU had to intervene), apologized in with a classic "I'm sorry you felt offended but I could care less", defended Piquet's use of the N-word when Brazilians themselves called him out because yes, the word is still derogatory in Portuguese, and no, people didn't "misunderstand", called his gf his best purchase, followed extreme right wing politicians on Twitter (and only unfollowed them when the N-word scandal started)?

There is complimenting and then there is blatantly lying about a third party to make a petty statement about someone else. Do I need to post the racing lines? The onboards? So that people see that the racing line that Charles took was tighter, that he left less space? All of this is easily available on the internet!

I also never denied that everything that happened didn't have an impact, just that that one singular statement wasn't trauma inflicted but rather an active choice to make.

Lewis plays the press and he is good at it. There is nothing wrong in saying it. And before I get accused of it I don't mean he is playing the press wrt the racism he faces or the abuse, but with on track incidences. And what he said about copse is in fact him playing the press. Something he did not have to do but chose to do. And he can choose that but I can also say that it was petty because it was.

Or the fact that he candidly admitted that he pushes drivers off track on purpose and they'll crash if they don't back down and cede the position (he said so after Silverstone, where he pushed Mick out several times for 7th place)?

Please point me to where I have done the things you are accusing me of! Send me the links to the posts where I have done that.

Saying I don't hate Max doesn't mean I can't say that he said something stupid. An attitude more people should have about all drivers tbh and yes that includes Lewis.

And as a result of that, the Orange Army has harassed and shouted sexist and racist slurs at people in Austria? Because all people like that need is a bit of validation from their hero, and they'll keep being awful?

Honesty is the best policy. And also half the grid does that and you don't hate them for it. Charles again the best example. Also in Silverstone to Lewis. Carlos to Charles also in Silverstone. Albon to Norris and so on and so forth. Lewis on Albon in Austria 2020, Lewis on Albon in 2019.

Hot take: what do you think happened in copse last season? There was space, Lewis was behind and the attacking driver. He could've ceded positions just as easily.

They all do it.

Please point me to where Max has actively encouraged what happened in Austria? Because I am very willing to point you to him actively denouncing it in a presser. But I guess that doesn't fit the narrative.

Why is it always "YOU people are too sensitive and want to see him as a bad guy, but he's not!", and never hold him accountable for anything?

Where have I done that? Please point me to that exact post! and when you say that then please also hold your own guy accountable, because he like everyone else isn't a pristine blameless person that has never said or done anything wrong ever.

I rue the day DTS was created because people like you, who refuse to hold Max accountable for anything, keep using it as an excuse, like "Those people only hate Max because they fell for the narrative in DTS! They just want drama!"

When most people couldn't care less for a Netflix show and have been following F1 for decades.

Until you address all of these issues, you have no right to tell people "you just want him to be the villain!"

Oh so you are aware of the fact that Lewis as a 24 year old and even older said and did some shit that wasn't great? Like the transphobia, the misogyny towards the grid girls multiple times, like knowingly lying to the FIA and then getting disqualified, like tweeting confidential telemetry just because he was pissed.

He grew up, he learned and he got better and we have to at least leave that door open for the younger ones to do as well. He is a very different person at 37 now than he was at 24. And that's normal. But you need to allow others to get to do the same.

I have no obligation to address anything. This is my blog and I get to say and comment on what I want. If you don't like it then unfollow or block me. That's fine. I block people all the time. Sometimes just because I don't want to see what they post under tags.

And no, before you accuse me of it, I'm not a Brit nor a Mercedes fan. Believe it or not, even people who don't like Mercedes can care about racism, ableism, sexism and drivers purposely crashing into others to take them out.

I just like Charles and I enjoy seeing him happy. And driving against Max is something he quite clearly enjoys and cherishes a lot. And I like that he gets to enjoy it without it being toxic, because I above all want Charles to be happy and I doubt that he'd be happy in a toxic fight. I want for his experience in F1 to be enjoyable above all.

That's probably the most interesting thing to me. So you are a Charles fan, I assume seeing as you are on my blog, but got so worked up over a post where I said that I don't understand why people hate Max so much that they want this situation to be toxic for Charles.

Do you want a toxic fight for Charles? And if so why?

I personally as fan of his am glad that he doesn't have RB and Max shit on him alongside the media. And they've had plenty of opportunities to. Like Ted serving it up on a golden platter to Horner to get a headline. And I for one am glad that Horner didn't take the bait.

I like that Charles gets to enjoy the fight with RB and Max (because lbr Ferrari are making it hard enough themselves but even without that).

I just wonder about peoples intentions when they hate someone else so much that they'd rather make a nice situation into a toxic one for their own favourite just so that the other person suffers.

When your hatred for someone else is bigger than your fandom of your fave it's a bit weird no?

I don't get the whole "poor Charles needs to be saved from himself because he is so hard on himself" when in the same vain people want the fight to be toxic. As if that would be any easier on Charles.

Also, you must think that Charles is an absolute shit judge of character, well actually the entire Ferrari team considering some of them (Mattia and Gino) have sit down chats with Max.

There are also enough journalists that are gagging to have Charles say something bad about Max, yet he doesn't. So do you think he is so spineless that he can't speak his own mind? How do you justify him saying that if Max is such a horrible person through and through?

You are in my inbox accusing me of a litany of things just for saying I like that it's not toxic are you also in Charles dms doing the same? Because he seems to be somewhat of a fan of Max, or at least he isn't denouncing everything Max has ever said. You say Max is a dirty driver yet your own fave disagrees very publicly and repeatedly. Do you think Max is stood next to him in interviews holding a gun to his head? How to you explain that to yourself? Maybe Charles just enjoys driving and fighting like that too.

I am an adult with real life experience. And I know that ranting on the internet especially on a site like Tumblr as an anonymous person has zero real world impact. Instead of ranting and accusing others of things in their inbox I actually try to have an IRL impact. And I do my part offline. Performative activism on the internet is nothing other than performative activism. And if it makes you feel better about yourself then let's go you, but I'd rather have an actual impact for and on the people around me.

At the moment I don't even care for Max outside of his driving and his fight with Charles. But I am a younger sister and above all a petty af bitch and the more you keep coming into my inbox with things like this accusing me of things you've made up the more I'm gonna end up liking Max just out of spite.

[smalltownbcy]

I really wasn't going to post anything today because I'm not feeling well and had a Covid scare, but all you petty mother fuckers need to leave kamchatkatraitor the fuck alone. They made an honest goddamn mistake that they corrected and apologized for but you keep vilifying them like they murdered someone. Did none of you watch season 4? You're treating them like Hawkins did to Eddie. Attacking them without the full story and not even giving them a chance to show that they're sorry. Fuck your call out blogs, fuck your call out posts, fuck all your bullshit. I'm sick of my friends leaving Tumblr because you stupid ass people can't use your common sense. If you have any hatred for my friend for this dumb bs, unfollow me right the fuck now. I'm pissed.

[what-if-nct]

hi today's reminder is i have a weird stomachache so I've eaten very very little for the past two days but it's still not completely gone and then when i was already annoyed by my family eating pizza while i could only have a banana for lunch i found out the dreamies won't be performing for a bit because of covid and also the guy who ghosted me keeps posting some girls i don't recognise on his insta stories (i can be over him and annoyed about this at the same time shush) and it seems the entire world is on a beach vacation other than me and the guests in my house don't leave until tomorrow and i just want my room back and ugh why are these small inconveniences the worst evil this world

Oh no honey, I'm sorry you've had such a rough couple days. Back to back strings of bad luck is the worst cause it feels ongoing. I hope you're tummy ache goes away really soon and you can catch your body up on all the food it's missed. Throw in a treat cause you deserve it. I know poor baby bear got covid on his birthday. Also little Jaemin, Jeno, & Chenle poor babies. I hope they get well soon. And proceed carefully after. Oh yeah you can totally be annoyed and be over him at the same time. Like you don't care but at the same it's like "this bitch" it's normal. A guy I've been fwb with five years now would always post stories with girls and like we weren't serious but still I felt some kind of way so I unfollowed and blocked him. we still see each other, I saw him just last night. Just can't follow him on insta. So totally valid to feel annoyed. I suggest unfollowing to give yourself peace. You can block him just to be petty. That's usually my choice. And I'm sure another beach holiday is just in the horizon for you. Right now your just in a storm but there is always sunshine and a rainbow at the end of every storm. Soon you will get your sunshine and rainbow.

[landograndprix]

you do realise this petty high school shit you're pulling helps no one and it makes YOU look bad when you try to be all cryptic with these immature posts to try to stir up drama. i honestly tried to get along with you, really. but when someone is just so negative, it makes them blind to the people who actually try to be nice to them, so you ignore THEM ig. sorry about that :/

and yet you're still here, on my blog, while the block and unfollow botton are waiting for you? but no, you're right, I almost forgot you made this blog for me and I am so terribly sorry for complaining, while all you had to do was scroll past it (like I do when I see something on my dash that doesn't tickle my fancy😉)

[inspector-montoya-fox]

here’s why Thieves in Time is a bad game

before y’all try it, i just want to say that i’ll be as unapologetically petty and sarcastic as i want and fucking rip this game to shreds. yes, this is how i’ve spent my days since Thieves in Time came out. sitting alone in my room, staring at the wall, crying and complaining. because it has since been my life’s aim and dream to think about it every day, state the negative things about it, and become an evil essay witch on this half-dead website. *evil laugh*

Story:

References: i want to start with the smallest problem, but one that annoys me to this day. in the original trilogy, there weren’t a lot of references but the ones that were included were meticulously researched and well thought-out (i’m specifically referring to that Neil Diamond Carmelita vinyl gag, but can’t find the original post). the references in Thieves in Time however, were obviously just the creators’ interests. Turning Japanese, Clan of the Cave Bear and Bentley’s “hacksona” presented as Rambo just scream 1980s (which i’m assuming is the decade the creators grew up in), and Of Mice and Men is classic literature about the Great Depression, which subsequently started being taught in school in the US during the 1980s. it feels like the creators just went ‘let’s discuss what our lives had in common during our teen years and put that in’ instead of researching it first. and, here’s the thing: when you’re adding references, in order to make them funny or interesting, they have to fit in with the property or the character that’s connected to them in some way. Don Octavio was an opera aficionado so his episode’s title card pays homage to the Phantom of the Opera, young Muggshot was influenced by the movie “The Dogfather” because he’s a gangster, etc. these were funny because they were so spot-on with these characters. if every character in the Sly Cooper universe references the same type of stuff (from the 1980s) and shares the same interests, it’s just claustrophobic and uninteresting. i’m pretty sure i’m not the only one who had to look up these ultra-hetero, scrotum references when the game came out. that’s because they were specifically tailored to be funny to them, and not their target demographic which were kids in 2013.

Narrative: now that we got that out of the way, let’s look at the narrative. at the end of Sly 3, Bentley says he’s building a time machine. Sanzaru took that joke and decided to run with it as the premise for their game. ok, not the best idea, but i get it - you’re literally picking up where the last game left off. since all the storylines were wrapped up, they could’ve done something different like Sly’s kids or Bentley and Murray’s families, but this isn’t an essay about suggestions so...... time travel (i want to say that it’s, again, an 80s reference but whatever) was pretty ‘out there’ in 2013. i mean, even Plants vs Zombies 2, which was released that year, had to do with time travel (yes, i’m referencing an app). but Sanzaru had the advantage of applying this premise onto already established mythos and lore. the story had definite potential: someone is threatening Sly’s lineage so he has to travel back in time to save the day. the player would get to explore new locations and iconic eras in history, and, of course, the main selling point: playable ancestors. how could you screw that up? welp.... let’s think about the plot holes here for a sec. Bentley’s device would take the gang back in time when given an item from the specific era. stop. this right here is called ‘over-complicating’. how did they know the items would take them directly to the point where the specific ancestor was in danger? the Feudal Japan period lasted for 700 years: how did the machine know when and where to drop them off? and if the gang could return to the present at any time, why didn’t they do so when they were in trouble? oh right, the machine was broken. so how did they return the baddies to the present after they defeated them? i mean, why did they use the Grizz’s crown to travel to Medieval England if they went back to the present to drop him off to Interpol first? and on that note, how did they drop the baddies off to jail without getting caught and without Carmelita being around? i can already hear you thinking but these are total details that aren’t important, you jerk! well, yea, they truly are details and i truly am overthinking it. and yes, i truly am a jerk. but let me tell you something: when Sanzaru chose to make a new Sly game, did they not think ‘oh we’ll have to follow up Sly 2 and Sly 3′s stories’ which were well thought-out narratives with depth and various themes and didn’t have huge plot holes (as seen by my analysis through the episode project) ???? and did they also not think that their game would come out eight years after the last one, having expectations at an all-time high???? yea, that’s what i thought.

Characters: i’ll make a different section for Sucker Punch’s characters, so this is for Sanzaru’s original ones. name one iconic original character from Thieves in Time. i’ll wait... nope. not one. that’s because all of them were absolute shit. and here’s where i want to touch upon Sanzaru’s over-reliance on the trilogy. Ms Decibel (perhaps the most obvious copy) is a mix between Don Octavio, Miz Ruby, and the Contessa. El Jefe is Rajan if he went to the gym. Toothpick has Sir Raleigh’s temper and tendency to grow in size. and the Grizz is... whatever the fuck he is. (don’t worry i didn’t forget Le Paradox and Bob). there’s a difference between studying & creating similar characters and blatantly plagiarizing older characters because you lack the creativity. oh, boo-hoo this evil jerk’s telling it how it is. this set of villains is so lacklustre, i don’t even know where to begin. El Jefe is a tiger, even though we’ve already had two major tiger villains and one tiger flashlight guard. ok. Rajan could summon lightning because of the Clockwerk heart but El Jefe can do the same, how exactly? Toothpick is an armadillo (good) from Russia (better) with an obsession with the West (excellent) who can also grow huge (very bad). it’s never explained how or why. why?????? just tell me why. i want to know. i really want to know. Ms Decibel is an elephant who got into a tragic accident which left her with the power of hypnosis. music and hypnosis have already been done, but ok, i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. so how do we use this character? spend the entirety of her screen time making jokes about... wait for it... her weight !!! this is top-notch comedy... really? like... really? the creators’ humor is a crime, at best. fart jokes and fat jokes all around. oh, and then there’s the Grizz. what the fuck where they thinking? just, what the fuck. i guess the guys at Sanzaru thought black people speak in rap? is that it? apart from it being extremely offensive, it’s also a blatant copy of Dimitri’s backstory. like, his introductory cutscene even has his paintings thrown at him and into the trash, like the intro cutscene for The Black Chateau. honestly, all of these villains caused me several types of pain, but not as much as...

Bob & Le Paradox: the absolute worst. i can just imagine the meeting going something like this: Sly’s ancestors are awesome! i wish we could fit them all in the game... here’s an amazing idea! what if we use one of the game’s few levels to introduce a brand new ancestor! yea! let’s make him dumb as fuck, strip him of any athletic prowess, and retcon the entire lineage by having him be the first Cooper ever! the kids will love a prehistoric level! ..... could you kindly point out where and when did ANYONE ask for this? i remember @ironicsnap​ saying something like the game is good until Bob. no, it was already bad - Bob just lowered the standard. like, a lot. people love Murray and his gameplay is neat, but no one ever thought ‘oh i wish we had a Cooper character with Murray’s game style’. why would they waste the opportunity to bring in Henriette, Thaddeus, Otto, literally any ancestor? why??? but they went ahead and created their own Cooper, and that wasn’t even the end of it. they had to make him dumb. they had to make him unbearable. they had to ruin the Cooper ancestry by adding this mess to the lineage. Sucker Punch made sure that all the ancestors were unique, but at the same time made all of them suave and funny and slick and you wish you could be them! well, fuck that. also, his name is Bob. Bob Cooper. it’s been 7 fucking years and i still can’t wrap my head around it.... so now, let’s talk about Le Paradox. i don’t have to mention the previous main villains, but i will. Clockwerk killed Sly’s ancestors and father, and was seemingly an eternal threat. Neyla was a psychopath who fooled everyone on her journey to becoming immortal by resurrecting Clockwerk. Dr M opened up the possibility for Sly’s dad to be a jerk instead of a hero, and died trying to unlock the Coopers’ legacy. how does Le Paradox compare? well, he’s a sleazebag skunk who was mad because of his dad’s downfall to the Coopers. that’s it. no twist, no depth, no clever dialogue. nothing. there’s nothing there. this is a new character, unfamiliar to everyone, who was hyped up for 5 levels and defeated in the conclusion. why was he a match for Sly? i don’t know. how did he fight for his life and ultimately tricked Sly into helping him? i don’t know. how the hell did he kidnap Carmelita? i don’t know. was it the power of persuasion? no, he’s revolting. so i literally don’t know. there’s no backstory, no fleshing-out the character, nothing. all we’re given to work with is a brief info-dump about his dad and how he escaped prison. i don’t know what else to say apart from how big a humiliation this was for Sanzaru and their team of writers. you had 8 years to work on something and this is what you came up with? anything would be better. anything would best this utter cliché of a villain, a distasteful misogynist, crybaby, idiot with an accent. literally anything.

Arcs & Themes: let’s take a look at the formulaic subplots for the gang’s members. apart from dealing with Le Paradox, everyone had a small arc. Sly had to deal with his break-up with Carmelita. Bentley had to deal with his break-up with Penelope. Murray had to deal with playing second fiddle to Bob. Carmelita was a damsel in distress and sex bait for the ancestors. the ancestors had their own mini storylines along with reacting to Sly’s presence. there you have it. i summarised it all for you, nice and neatly. are there any themes like in the previous games? nope. i promise you i’m not lying when i say that i tried hard to come up with something, even some speck of a detail i could use to over-analyse the story and come up with some ideas on themes. nothing. there are no themes. the subplots are character-driven and the player gives it 0 emotional investment. there is nothing to analyse, nothing to talk about. maybe even a theme for each level, like a spooky level or something? nope. the levels are dependent on eras and historical periods. the variation here is ok. Feudal Japan, Wild West, Prehistoric Australia, Medieval England and Ancient Arabia  - pretty good selection. i’ll give them credit for it. but that’s it. due to the absence of themes, the hubs feel empty. there’s no replayability factor. after you collect the bottles and masks and treasures, there’s nothing. i would spend hours revisiting the trilogy’s hubs, just roaming around. the hubs here are huge and empty. there’s nothing to reminisce about. nothing to recall. oh that’s where this mission went down. no, nothing like that. the aforementioned subplots are resolved during mission cutscenes and then they’re gone. you don’t have to explore spooky Prague alone as Bentley to have him overcome his fears, you don’t have to find out miners abducted Murray’s beloved Guru and search the Australian outback for him, you don’t have to hold back your tears when you’ve reached the end of the Cooper Vault and Sly asks his dad for help. nothing.

Gameplay:

Controls: as soon as i laid my hands on the controller the first time i played the game, that fateful afternoon, i knew something was up. Sly would respond 1 second late after you pushed something on the controller. it felt clunky, is what i’m trying to say or, as my sister put it, it felt heavy. and she was right. the controls were clunky and heavy and didn’t feel light, like playing as a thief should feel. i don’t know shit about game mechanics but this definitely didn’t feel right. the hubs are also chunky in design, the cliffs are huge and so cyclical or hexagonal, that when you parachute your way to them and are just an inch close, Sly will automatically just drop because he can’t grab onto them. running as Sly doesn’t feel fast, silently obliterating guards from behind feels slow, and swinging, grabbing, pickpocketting, and hanging aren’t fun anymore. presentation-wise, @designraccoon​ goes into detail here, in an absolute gem of a post. in short, the gameplay animations make Sly look less sneaky. Sanzaru didn’t even consider a thief’s movements.

Missions: why the fuck would you remove the player’s option to choose between which mission to do first? why would you do that? the game lays out what goes first, sometimes having only one mission available in the hub. and the missions aren’t even enjoyable. firstly, the loading screens take up to 5 minutes, maybe even 7-8. secondly, there’s hacking every 2 missions. the missions don’t have any dialogue to make them fun, lack in interesting puzzles, what more can i say? they’re overly easy and lack any challenge whatsoever. at least there’s variation in gameplay (hacking, RC car, fishing, costumes, ancestors, turret etc.) but because of the controls, even these get tiresome. the missions are solely there to progress the story and that’s why the operations are merely ‘storm the main baddie’. the trilogy had some pretty interesting missions which made sure to complete jobs required to take down the big bad. e.g. kidnap General Clawfoot to take down the security, hack Contessa’s computer to make sure Carmelita will be freed, steal voices to tempt Neyla, and then take down the Contessa. the missions in Thieves in Time lack substance and variety. and the hacking (all three styles) sucks.

Collectibles: here’s another fantastic idea: have players collect costumes in order to collect bottles in order to collect treasures in order to collect masks in order to unlock funky Sanzaru logo-themed merch! what was the reason for the collectibles? in previous games, collecting all bottles would unlock special abilities. that was it. it’s the same thing here too, but there’s less incentive? i mean when you have to collect 1000 things, what’s the point? the treasures are random and very few are references to the trilogy, so whatever. and the masks unlock... superhero costumes for what reason exactly? oh, and then there’s also the achievements for your Playstation account, like ‘open the map in every single location you visit’. what fun! if the reason for collecting the treasures is to play godawful hacking minigames in order to get masks, what’s the point? decorate your paraglider with the Sanzaru logo? or have Bentley dress up as discount Robocop? i mean including masks in the interior locations was cool, but the bottles were always supposed to be something you could do whenever your soul desired. sometimes i left them last before the operation, sometimes i collected them before the first mission. so i was pissed when i found out that, in some cases, you had to unlock the episode’s costume in order to get the all the bottles. so, fuck off.

Animation: i’ll keep this short. the animation was terrible. do you remember that tumblr blog from a while back, where she dedicated the posts to pointing out the mistakes in the animated cutscenes? yeah. point is, there were lots of them. the animation style was bad, the character design was ugly, the characters’ movements were unnatural. everything about it was shit. looking past the bad decision to drop the trilogy’s comicbook-style animated cutscenes, couldn’t they have hired someone better? someone with more experience? their concept art was awesome. couldn’t they hire that guy and have it be comicbook style if he wasn’t trained in animation?

Legacy:

The Players: let me ask a genuine question: who was this game made for? kids growing up in 2013? maybe so. because it feels like Sanzaru didn’t even consider the fans of the trilogy. actually, it felt like a huge fuck you. Sucker Punch made their trilogy for whoever. there were great stuff for kids, but adults would pick up and appreciate the references, the real-life setting (e.g. tobacco use, existence of nightclubs, spice instead of drugs, etc.). that’s why all three games are timeless classics. judging by Thieves in Time’s humor, the game wasn’t targeted for adults. so, it doesn’t make sense to use an already established property, beloved by its fans, to attract a new audience consisting of nine year-olds who’d laugh at Murray dressing up as a woman. if they really wanted to appeal to the fans of the original, why retcon everything? why change who the first Cooper was? when the gang’s stranded in Saudi Arabia, why have Sly say ‘i couldn't remember a time since we've teamed up that we felt so defeated’? the gang’s been in way deeper shit before. why the ‘Sly’s dad vs Le Paradox’s dad’ deus ex machina? Sly’s dad wasn’t famous because of stealing the world’s largest diamond, what the fuck are you even talking about? do the guys at Sanzaru have such big egos and bravado that they needed to change the original games’ lore? were they so preoccupied with leaving their signature on a property which was never their own? i don’t know who needs to read this, but i’m stating FACTS.

Characters: now let’s talk about Sanzaru’s treatment of the Cooper gang and the ancestors (female characters will get their own section). why would you change the characters like that? if it wasn’t for the voice acting, i’d say this is a completely different Cooper gang. there’s no wise-cracking band of best friends, going on heists and being proud of their brotherhood and bond. all that is replaced with the formulaic story arcs for each member. the trilogy’s cutscenes and dialogues made sure to establish how Sly, Bentley and Murray have lived together since they met at the orphanage, play videogames all day and order chinese food and pizza and whatever. through missions and their adventures, they face obstacles they have to overcome as a gang, and when Sly 3 came around, their friendship was put to the ultimate test when they almost disbanded. Thieves in Time was too lazy to add to this. Sanzaru thought ‘oh the trilogy showed how they’re best friends so we might as well have them focus on their own stories separately’ and if this is truly the case then i ask again: who was this game made for? because new fans would never know how tight the gang was just by playing Thieves in Time. there’s a lack of genuine friendship moments. like, what happened when Sly came back after faking his amnesia? that’s completely ignored. where’s the witty banter? the ‘wizard & sitting duck’ type of jokes? nothing of the sort. what we get is fart jokes and Murray wanting to dress up as a woman. on that note, what was that all about? ok, have him dress up as a geisha to get in. fine. have El Jefe slap his ass, have him perform in a painfully lengthy dance sequence, have him dress like that during the rest of the episode, and then have him be persistent about getting the belly-dancing gig? the hell? Murray was always kinda goofy but this just feels kinda homophobic? it feels dragged out and unfunny. and then there’s the ancestors. i said it once before and i’ll say it again, Sanzaru deprived me of a buff Arab daddy Salim Al Kupar and gave us that elderly shit instead. all jokes aside, the redesigns were uninteresting. why take away Tennessee Kid’s facial hair and give it to Galleth? i legitimately think all the ancestors were boring. i mean, their gameplay was cool, especially Tennessee Kid’s guns, but in terms of character, they were just some dudes. did they believe that Sly was their descendant from the future? maybe. did they care? nope. they all had the same storyline of dealing with Sly’s arrival, flirting with Carmelita and getting their canes stolen. that was it. the fans waited for so long to get even a glimpse of the ancestors in action, and Sanzaru downplayed all of them. they reduced them to useless idiots too occupied with women and food, incapable of getting their canes back from stupid Le Paradox. and they didn’t even stick to the lore. no ma’am. let’s make Rioichi the inventor of sushi !! because that makes total sense and would defo fit in with the character and the property! why. just, why. you were handed the lore !!! you were given all this rich backstory and you threw it all away to replace it with trash !!! complete trash.

Changes & Inconsistency: i want to briefly mention some changes that pissed me off. where’s the laser glide move? it was an important turning point at the end of Sly 3, so why did they get rid of it? Sly is a master thief who’s traveling back in time, so you’d think they’d actually make him a master thief. also, the changes in the binocucom and Bentley’s slideshows in order to modernise them. if Sucker Punch managed to place the mission starting points at locations where the binocucom would show the objective clearly, so could Sanzaru. instead, they chose to have it be a moving camera, floating around the hub. and Bentley’s slideshows were absolute classics, opportunities to include gags and have Bentley show off in his own way. you just had to change it into a tablet, didn’t you. omg you’re still looking at small details like these? yes sweetie, i consider the details because i think they shape the game more than anything. if i didn’t consider the details, then my opinion on the game would be incomplete. when i praise the trilogy i don’t only look at story and gameplay. because i’m unbiased like that. here, i’d also like the mention Dimitri. what a fucking waste. you either include him in the game or you don’t. but don’t give me some half-baked shit on how he’s working for the gang back in present day. Dimitri staying home, waiting on the gang to call him in order for him to give them details on the villains. how does that even slightly resemble anything about Dimitri’s character? they didn’t even include his voice, some greasy sweet Raccoonus Doodus dialogue.

Female Characters: you know it’s all been leading up to this. this is the crux of the Thieves in Time hate. i don’t want to say the game is misogynistic so i’ll call it anti-feminist. why? just answer me. why? why did you have to disrespect Carmelita like that? right off the bat, they swapped the pants for the skirt. in what world does an active inspector who’s always on the scene wear a skirt? Carmelita now wears a skirt because her only role in the game is to be the love interest. Carmelita now wears bright red lipstick and has a new hairstyle, which would be ok if only it wasn’t Carmelita. Carmelita now plays up her inner sassy Latina because she’s pigeonholed into the ‘angry ex girlfriend’ role. they compartmentalised her, tried to sexualise her because she couldn’t possibly be one of the boys. nope. let’s take a respected woman, high in rank and as physically able as Sly, and turn her into a cliché, an angry ex girlfriend for comedic relief, strip her of her abilities and have her be kidnapped twice, have every exchange with her be about how attractive she is, have almost every male character in the game flirt with her, have her boyfriend be jealous of his own ancestors because they’re flirting with her in order to create purposeless love triangles, and then, after all that, dress her up as a belly dancer and distract some guards while the rest of the gang do the heavy lifting. that last one was really the nail on the coffin. did Bentley have other ways to enter that door? absolutely. so, what the fuck? why did i come back for a good Sly game 8 years later and receive a game where you have to shake your controller to have Carmelita shake her ass? why did they have the guards’ eyes pop like that? why did no one stop them? and it isn’t just Carmelita. it’s Penelope too. god forbid we have a female character who doesn’t have a waist smaller than my finger, and a voluptuous physique. why was the redesign so drastic? the story stuff is also nonsensical. why did she leave? wasn’t she happy with Bentley? i watched her speech about turning on the gang about a thousand times and it still doesn’t make any sense. like, i literally don’t understand. what was her motive? and why reverse her story of overcoming the Black Baron persona and the connotations of a meek woman hiding behind a man’s disguise? why repeat it, shamelessly? do the guys at Sanzaru only know women who have recently broken up? why does Carmelita, Penelope and Ms Decibel all go through break-ups during the game? why does Penelope go against Bentley before they even break up? why waste the opportunity to introduce a new, well-written villain and use it to repeat something already done? why???? no woman is safe from Sanzaru because Ms Decibel... boy, did i feel bad for her. apart from continuously reminding us that she’s haha fat!! she’s also presented as a blind lovefool. love? what a silly concept only women believe in! Ms Decibel had a crush on Le Paradox (for some reason i can’t even fathom) and for that she must pay by being utterly humiliated. and what do ALL women do when a guy breaks up with them? they get so angry! yikes, stay clear guys! ....why does Sanzaru hate female characters? i’m genuinely curious. i mean, what forced them to depict women like this? i’m sorry, i can’t take much more of this.

Ending: and how do you end a disappointment that came 8 years late and didn’t even have a sequel guaranteed? yeap, you guessed it! a cliffhanger. but not just any cliffhanger - a total fuck you to anyone and everyone. with a single move Sanzaru instantly screwed over the franchise. the fans, the creators, the characters, anyone looking to continue the series. everyone. WHY would you trap the protagonist in the past? WHY? did you feel defensive about something that wasn’t even yours and went ‘well you can continue the series but the sequel will have to do with time travel’. why did you think it was a good idea? how does it even slightly resemble a good ending? someone fill me in please. because i don’t think i’m being unreasonable, i’m just telling it how it is.

Conclusion:

i did it. i fucking wrote it in all its motherfucking glory. the idiots at Sanzaru could’ve given us an amazing game but instead of working on how to make it better or including extra levels, they wasted their time on deciding what killable baby animal to include in each hub or what the backstory for each treasure should be. how fucking distasteful. and to think i’m an idiot myself for trying to force myself to like it because i was so in denial about how bad it was. i’ve just outlined everything wrong with that cursed game. i’m exhausted.

[angeloncewas]

omg hiii returning to ur askbox for Discourse Reasons :) im so sorry I havent sent u anything recently ive just been busy but ummm just a disclaimer this is /nm and i think this just all has to do with us having different expierences for various reasons but i have seen a lot more dt stans absolutely shit on sbi for no reason or shit on them just bc an sbi stan (a lot of whom even like dt) made an offhanded/poorly worded criticism of one/all of them and it's just been. very upsetting? bc i used to like dteam a lot more but now it feels hard for me personally to engage in dt fan spaces/content bc a lot of those same people posting about dt are the people who ive seen actively take something that wasnt That Deep in poor faith and just shit on sbi to piss off the op instead of realizing the ccs have literally nothing to do with this stuff and if you have a problem with the stans you dont need to take it out on the ccs. obviously this can go both ways, sbi stans arent innocent in this, i just know ive personally had to block and unfollow a lot of people for shitting on sbi when their anger was actually targeted at stans who half the time werent even actually spreading hate, just criticism. this is probably just bc of who i follow but that doesnt make it any less annoying to see dteam stans pop up out of nowhere on my dash just bc they came for an sbi stan for something that wasnt actually an issue until they decided to make it an issue (ie somebody expressing their own reasons why they dont like dteam with proper tagging so fans dont see it unless they literally look for it and then still somehow ending up getting dogpiled) which then turns into like a 3 day long discourse between the two sides of mcytblr.

anyways, thanks for listening to my 2 cents! like i said, /nm i was just getting really frustrated about this earlier and then i saw you talking bit about it so i am taking adventure of ur willingness to respectfully discourse and doing so lol

hope you've been well!

—🦷

Tooth :D I hope you've been well too - no worries about not being around, I've also been v busy. Just glad you're still here tbh <3

I definitely have had that experience on Twitter, not here, but I'm really sorry you have. It sucks that we've both had ANY sort of experience like that, considering how adamantly people proclaim mcytblr to be the most superior of the platforms, but I digress.

"if you have a problem with the stans you dont need to take it out on the ccs" is just so right... and honestly vice versa too. Like as much as I am a fan of the creators, they're so removed from us that I feel like so much regarding them is so... distant. Whereas you and I (or any two people, I mean) are right here, right now, and if we have a problem (or don't !) it's really between us.

I know it can be frustrating to see people against the creators you like, but dteamblr (they're not really an organized group, but summarized for the sake of) comes close to dttwt in defensiveness sometimes. And I get it, I get the urge too, but it still does cause problems with people who are trying to exist within their own space and I do think that the worst dteam stans - on every platform - are some of the most concerning people in this fandom. I don't know how we've normalized threats and the like but OH BOY. Chill a little.

Idk. I hope you find joy in dt spaces again because it's not fair that people took that from you :/ and I hope the people of dteamblr stop going for peoples' throats all the time; sometimes it's okay to just let it be. Not everyone's gonna like you or the creators you do, and making a problem out of it or something like it is just petty.

[gaysols]

You're getting that mass unfollow because of your attitude. Don't take me wrong, I agreed with 100% you said and I'm glad the rpc is free from someone so toxic as that person. Yet, your whole "making fun" of the situation is what makes you lose all the right you had so far. You guys did well in pointing out all the shit she did, but don't you think it's time to stop? Let the drama die and let's continue with our awesome hobbies. Don't you think that's more important?

I love anons. 

Fr tho I’m sorry if you’re taking my sarcasm and humor out of context, especially because I know that sarcasm doesn’t translate well on the internet, but honestly I really don’t fucking care. People can follow and unfollow all the want, but this blog is here for me to interact with my friends. Like a max 5 people who I know and love and who understand my shitty humor and my thought process. Don’t get me wrong, I love talking to people, but if you don’t like what I’m posting, that’s what the unfollow is for.

I’m not upset about being unfollowed? I literally give 0 fucks about follower count or who is following me. My post was literally a joke, and a commentary on how far up her ass people are. I’m sorry you don’t like my attitude, but man, it’s been a fucked up day. Cut me and my sarcastic petty ass a little slack. I’m sorry I’m not up to your standards, but I mean, I also don’t give a shit.

[medschoolash]

i love the stuff you normally post. but this fan war you're fighting is just... weird? i don't get it. can't you just enjoy our ship without going after people and dragging them all the time? like if people block you isn't that better than coming after you?i just don't get why you care so much and seem to take such delight in being so mean. anon because i don't want you to come after me but i really had to say something.

First I'm Glad you enjoy my blog. Second, I don't drag all the time and I'm not a mean person. I wouldn't even jump down your throat for this ask. I'm all for people coming at other people respectfully, when you do I respond in kind, when you don't....well I think we've all seen how I handle that lol Let me tell you and anyone else who is wondering a little bit about me......I'm a very nice person. I love making new friends and making jokes and being shady. I'm always open to chatting with any and everyone. I'm a social butterfly and naturally an extrovert so I always end up in the middle of a social circle eventually but I don't really do "cliques", cliques come with a assumption of exclusivity and that just ain't me. I'm down for chatting with anyone even if I naturally gravitate to a core group of people. With that said.....I'm not a push over. I'm not dumb and I'm not weak. My mama ain't raise to fool. That means if people come at me, challenge me, whatever, I'm gonna respond. I'm always down for a good healthy debate, I'm not down for being talked down to. I'm protective of my ships and the people who ship them That means at times I will get obnoxiously shady and petty at times I will have to make an example out of people who try me. I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable but that's just how I am. That's not me 24/7 and I don't go out of my way to start shit even if I will join in on the drama out of principe or if I'm dragged into it by the people involved. People like to get online and act like they hard and bully people, I'm not one to be bullied online or offline. People like to get online and pretend to be people they aren't for the sake of putting on a show for their friends and followers, I'm not to direct that kinda pettiness towards. Part of my dragging people and my pettiness isn't even for myself, it for the people who can't stand up for themselves on here, people who might not be as bold as I am and let stuff really get to them. I do it for them because somebody gotta snatch the bullies eventually or else they keep thinking they can run around here doing and saying whatever they want without being checked. I saw some ugly stuff being directed towards nice people who just like to talk about their ship and create meta and I didn't like it so I said something and imma keep saying something until people learn to stay in their own damn lane. When I first joined the Jonsa fandom i wasn't involved in and drama. You wanna know how I got involved? One day MissHoneyWheeler hoped her ass on one of my posts with a condescending sarcastic comment then blocked me so I couldn't reply. Her comment then sent a host of other basic bitches to my notifications. I let it slide the first time not wanting to go too hard. But then the passive aggressive behavior kept going and this clique of miserable bitches started patting themselves on the back for being smart and "hard" by using my blog and my posts. Ain't no Bitch gonna run around here thinking they got something over on Ashley. They do the same passive aggressive shit staring stuff to other people and everybody not able to expose them for being fake and childish but they met the right one. You ask why I'm not just satisfied being blocked? Well I am, actually, I love getting blocked by people I've never interacted with that means I get under their skin. But they don't just block, they block them reblog your posts to "drag" and mock you amongst themselves like some weak heauxs to make themselves feel better. It's childish AF and weak as hell because if they were really about shit they wouldn't be hiding their petty shit staring comments behind blocks. It's typical mean girl behavior and I decided that the mean girl behavior won't be getting a free pass. I would have never known who any of them were if they hadn't invaded by posts and they keep doing it. That's why I put them on blast to make them feel stupid just like they try to make other people who can't defend themselves feel stupid. People like that hide behind this fake "peace" that exists in these fandoms and I don't have time for faking it. So that's why I partake in this ship war mess, that's why I keep it real on my blog about the stupid petty shit I see. I'm the nicest person you will ever meet until you try to pull some childish shit with me. I won't apologize for my personality and my methods. I honestly hope I don't have to drag another bitch for the rest of my time in the fandom but hey if I have to make an example out of somebody I will. It is what it is, hopefully you can deal with that occasional messiness in between my fangrling over my ships. If not then you're welcome to unfollow, I won't take it personal and it's your right to enjoy your fandom experience however you want to, don't let me get in the way of that if it's too much for you.

[ofstarsandvibranium]

Ok, so I've been reading these posts about people who block mutuals for stupid stuff like not liking toaster strudels and then not telling them why. And it pisses me off because someone just did that to me and didn't tell me why they blocked me. And if it's for such a stupid reason as toaster strudels then you need to reevaluate your life because you're just acting childish. I'm sorry I just had to get that out, it's really been bugging me.

Some people are petty. I'll admit that I unfollowed people cause they liked r*ylo. But I just get really uncomfortable seeing it. So yeah. I think my reason is more valid than blocking someone for toaster strudels. But anyway. People are dumb for many reasons.