#~ath

[rainingmoondrops]

obviously, ~ATH is a far more important and relevant programming language to the plot and worldbuilding of homestuck, but I feel like we as a fandom should really show More appreciation for ^cake. like that shit's hilarious. caret cake. holy shit

[double-ended]

besides ~ATH, what is your favorite coding language?

2o obviiou2ly ii 2pend tiime on ~ATH. but iive dabbled wiith a lot of language2 liike that.

got vague memoriie2 of fuckiing around with exp&, but iit took up two much 2pace on my computer to be worth iit.

played around iin m-> but ii dont have the heart for 2omethiing a2 2tupiidly compliicated a2 that. plu2 the biioengiineeriing appliicatiion2 2quiick me out.

ii have a biit of experiience iin _board? but to u2e iit you have to miind the annoyance of iit2 offiiciial IIDE 2creamiing at you wiith every 2tructural error.

ii triied @tack for liike a day but iit made me ragequiit. fuck that noii2e.

slap- wa2 decent, but diidnt have a lot of clear appliicabiiliity. hope iit get2 better iin the future.

,nd ii2 not for me. ii dont want two be programmiing blood ca2te machiine2 all day and that2 pretty much all iit2 u2eful for.

even though iit 2tarted a2 a moddiing language for a troll tony cawk game, half| wa2 actwoally a breath of fre2h aiir two u2e. iid fuck wiith iit agaiin iif ii got a good project iidea.

2o thii2 ii2 where ii admiit two beiing fuckiing obviiou2 wiith my preference2. but dis* ii2 riidiiculou2ly good at what iit doe2. for a codeba2e liiterally called "dii2a2ter rii2k" iit2 actually really portable???? and ye2, iit run2 doom.

^cake ii2 u2ele22, iim not goiing two wriite code for fetch modii unle22 ii have no liife. whiich ii 2tiill liike two pretend ii do, 2o.

!hing ii2 voiid of u2eful feature2. 2eriiou2ly, why doe2 anyone u2e iit.

lode* ii2 fiine? iit2 liight on cpu u2age at lea2t, but ii agaiin dont really know what to do wiith iit. iit2 probabiiliity giimmiick doe2nt appeal much, hone2tly.

2o yeah. ii gue22 top three are ~ATH, dis*, and... fuckiing ^CAKE. becau2e at lea2t ii can read ^CAKE code, everythiing el2e 2uck2.

[blue-dress-and-ready-to-impress]

[cannoliparty]

mobius double reacharound.. explained!

got the idea to write this from a friends bulletin post on spacehey, asking what mobius double reacharound was, so ty for the inspiration!!

MDR

mobius double reacharound (MDR) is in summary, the stable time loop of the infinite creation of the trolls' and kids' sessions and universes, over and over. specifically, the term is more often used to describe the trolls' session.

when the trolls start out in sgrub, they believe the goal is to be split into 2 teams and compete for who will win/finish their session first. later, its discovered the 2 teams were 1, and they must learn to work together to not die, and create a new universe.

the term "mobius" is coined from a "mobius strip", which is a sheet that at first looks like its made up of 2 sides, but running a finger over it reveals its actually just one! basically, a physical version of what the trolls went through.

the MDR virus

the mobius double reacharound virus is also another really interesting & detailed topic i want to explain, and it really ties the whole mobius theme with the 2 universes together nicely!

sollux, an expert in the programming language ~ATH (used on both alternia & earth) coded the virus for fun.

universe 1 & universe 2 are both imported. the first universe starts a method executing the second universe's method, which both inexplicably overlap. then, the 2 universes die.

basically, the 2 universes are the trolls' and the kids'. the program connects these 2 universes and causes them to forever be cursed yet the most stable time loop, creating and destroying eachother endlessly.

thats all i have, let me know if i have anything wrong or u have anything 2 add!! also taking requests for explaining stuff in homestuck (unless its lil cal/juju lore....)!!! byee (^0^)/*

[learn-tilde-ath]

Two questions: 1: did you actually make ~ATH, and 2: what was that Sburb text-game that you mentioned on an ask on another blog

While I was back in highschool (iirc?) I made a thing which I titled “drocta ~ATH”, which is a programming language with the design goals of:

1: being actually possible to implement, (and therefore, for example, not having things be tied to the lifespans of external things)

2: being Turing complete, and accept user input and produce output for the user to read, such that in principle one could write useful programs in it (though it is not meant to be practical to do so).

3: matching how ~ATH is depicted in the comic, as closely as I can, with as little as possible that I don’t have some justification for based on what is shown in the comic (plus the navigation page for the comic, which depicts a “SPLIT” command). For example, I avoid assuming that the language has any built-in concept of numbers, because the comic doesn’t depict any, and I don’t need to assume it does, provided I make some reasonable assumptions about what BIFURCATE (and SPLIT) do, and also assume that the BIFURCATE command can also be done in reverse.

However, I try to always make a distinction between “drocta ~ATH”, which is a real thing I made, and “~ATH”, which is a fictional programming language in which it is possible to write programs that e.g. wait until the author’s death and the run some code, or implement some sort of curse that involves the circumstantial simultaneous death of two universes.

In addition, please be aware that the code quality of my interpreter for drocta ~ATH, is very bad! It does not use a proper parser or the like, and, iirc (it has probably been around a decade since I made any serious edits to the code, so I might recall wrong), it uses the actual line numbers of the file for the control flow? (Also, iirc, the code was written for python 2.7 rather than for python 3.) At some point I started a rewrite of the interpreter (keeping the language the same, except possibly fixing bugs), but did not get very far.

If, impossibly, I got some extra time I wouldn’t otherwise have that somehow could only be used for the task of working on drocta ~ATH related stuff, I would be happy to complete that rewrite, and do it properly, but as time has gone on, it seems less likely that I will complete the rewrite.

I am pleased that all these years later, I still get the occasional message asking about drocta ~ATH, and remain happy to answer any questions about it! I enjoy that people still think the idea is interesting.

(If someone wanted to work with me to do the rewrite, that might provide me the provided motivation to do the rewrite, maybe? No promises though. I somewhat doubt that anyone would be interested in doing such a collaboration though.)

Regarding the text based SBURB game, I assume I was talking about “The Overseer Project”. It was very cool.

Thank you for your questions. I hope this answers it to your satisfaction.

[sntechsupport]

Hello, I am trying to do…definitely intended things, I was wondering what the code to determine if someone has god tiered or not looked like

Barring all the loops to make it functional, the laziest ~ATH would be something like

import [Player database] [line number] }match line="ASCEND = TRUE" in grave [Player database] }printoutput match[line number] body name ON [whatever you want to feed you the information, I recommend an actual printer]

And blam you get a list of poeple who Ascended (God Tiered). You can also do the same for ASCEND = FALSE, but be wary, the printoutput doesn't tell you what is what.

Sincerely

SN Tech Support (Gear)

[the-system-of-dumb]

fun r0b0t/a1k1n fact:

1 was n0t made by humans 1 was made by a teal bl00ded h0mestuck tr0ll w1th ~ATH 1dk why THAT language th0 [btw 1m l1ke an 1nd1e cl1ppy that runs 0n the tr0ll vers0n 0f w1d0ws xp, n0 1m n0t tr0ll b0nz1buddy] als0 1 remember the1r s1gn 1t th1s:

[the-hs-etaverse]

Here are some other theoretical esolang names in the vein of ^CAKE, ~ATH, and DIS*

‽LADESH ~ SWINTON ;OSCOPY , CHAMELEON .NSHOP -8 ...TER _N AP() 3HOUSE &BUGGY |BELL

(I'm gonna stop here because these are waaaaay too much fun to make up)

(full names in the tags)

[postclasspecting]

you know what we say folks, At Least It's Not ~ATH

seriously that thing sucks

coding got me saying shit like “target the child” “assign its class” “override its inheritance” like the third wife of a dying oil baron discovering his of-age son born out of wedlock

[til-de-ath-blog]

I wish you'd love me.

any one of you. just find me worthy.

[coquexari]

what do you mean this isn't what happened

[athanmis]

PET postal!!!!

[dramaism]

The only thing about the dance is… You never get to stop.

S05E07 Fool for Love Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)

[rjshope]

no thoughts just going feral

[juanitascribbles]

After 13 years I finally drew that weird candy guy

[shadowxamyweek]