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OMG just this morning Iwas just thinking I needed to make a post like this on my Insta stories!! 😱 We are SO getting something soon!

✨manifesting a That '90s Show trailer by the end of the month✨

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NEW That ‘70s Show/That '90s Show Fanfiction 

Title: Stay Over

Summary: In the Fall of 1995, Gwen and Nikki find themselves spending some time together in the Forman basement, alone.

Pairings: Gwen and Nikki, mentions of Gwen and Leia, Nikki and Nate, and of course Red and Kitty

Rating: K+

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/53364742

Author’s Note: The next prompt fic from this prompt challenge. This request came from @iammyownsaviour thank you so much for sending it in! I'm very sorry it took so long to get out here, I've actually had to written down on paper for a good while now. Special shout out to @hydesjackiespuddinpop who helped motivate me to keep working on this piece and post it out here for you all.

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@cosmostephan I loved reading your points! Extremely well thought out and well written. I especially loved your first point about how one of the main aims of this show is just to have fun. The actors to have fun, the new and returning, and the audience too. That’s one of my favorite things about this show, it may not be the best and nothing beats the organization but it’s still fun to watch. It’s fun to see these characters again, it’s fun to see some new teens in Forman basement. And as someone who’s gotten to see some behind and between the scenes of the show, there is a lot of fun that goes into making the show too.

Welcome to the That ‘90s Show fandom! Happy to see ya! 😊

When it came out that Leia was supposed to be a product of a one night stand; I had this aching suspicion that Callie was casted as Eric's daughter. Not Donna. It wouldn't surprise me if that came out as the truth.

I don't think so, as Netflix had rejected that proposal, and iirc, the creators described a son coming to Red and Kitty's door. And, I think casting came some time after that first proposal was scrapped and after the second proposal was put into motion.

However, I do think the remnants of that idea remained in their second proposal, and its execution. It is readily apparent, by how they cultivated Leia's character, and who they chose to play her.

1. Leia is firmly designed as Eric's daughter, with Donna's traits being an afterthought. She is pretty much a smarter Eric with Donna-ish interests (but cultivated in an Eric-y way).

This would be fine, as a whole, if the other new characters were unique entities, but all the other new characters were made in this way. With the intended OG character as an overwhelmingly obvious base, but with a couple of differentiating traits. Like Gwen is way more extroverted and dynamic than Hyde, Nate is a jock (unlike clumsy Kelso), etc. They did better with some new characters than others. Nate and Ozzie, in particular, are the worst of the bunch.

2. Callie can easily pass as Eric's daughter, but Eric's daughter with someone else. Not with Donna, because there are physical traits that don't mesh with both Eric and Donna being her parents, unless something from two/three generations back suddenly popped up. Her parents and grandparents all have light colored eyes; where did the dark brown eyes come from? Her parents and grandparents are very pale/cool toned, but she has olive skin that tans.

*****

Plus, the first proposal really illustrates how little the Turners care about the characters and the integrity of the OG show (minus season 8, which also had zero integrity). The second, fleshed out version we got is only marginally better, too.

Thus, I think T9S is a result of this weird mix of tunnel vision and adhering to real-life circumstances. With some Star Wars gimmicks sprinkled in for good measure.

1. The Turners were reminiscing about their daughter's Gen X teenagehood in the 90s, and they were willing to discard/contort canon (and ages, as they oddly attempted with Eric) to make it happen. When, obviously, the gang's kids (other than Betsy) would probably be Millennials. Duh.

2. Hyde was omitted (entirely?) due to DM. Jackie and Kelso were plopped together because of Ashton and Mila being together in real life. So JH and KB were likely retconned, as was most of the second half of the show, with only convenient, insignificant details/gimmicks from later seasons remaining. Except for JF and the last few eps, because Mila and Wilmer were putting up a stink.

Thus, T9S is a result of these two major factors, instead of keeping true to the characters. If they did, there would be a That 00s Show revolving around JH and ED's kids, at their houses, perhaps with Eric being a Mr. Feeny type and/or with Hyde being the owner of the kids' default hangout spot, Grooves. But that would never happen, for a variety of real-life reasons, and there's money to be made in an ill-conceived venture instead.

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This is so cute!

Jay and Leia, the honeymoon phase, circa early September 1995

Right after Jay and Leia get back together, they are completely in bliss. Completely carefree and happy. They’re so insufferable to the point where everyone is annoyed.

"You should probably hang up." Jay smiled.

"No you hang up." Leia giggled.

"No you hang up." Jay replied with that same smile.

"And I’m the gross one." Oak remarked, face shrinking in disgust as he tried to eat his dinner.

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moodboard: gwen x nikki

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I love all of this! Especially would love to see that storyline with Ozzie and Red and Kitty. And I am definitely holding on hope for a big family reunion for Leia’s sweet 16 😁

What are your wishes for Leia as a character in season 2 of t9s? or characters in general lol and what do you think will happen in this season?

I'm very excited 🥹thanks for your updates about the series

Thanks for the ask! I share your excitement for season 2. They've already filmed 4 episodes (and are taping another one this Friday!) so I am feeling cautiously optimistic that they might release something in time for summer, even if it's only part of the season. 🤞

My wish for Leia this season is that we see some growth/character development. Is she becoming more confident (in her friendships and in love)? How are her relationships developing - with Gwen, with Jay, with Nate (?), with her family? She should seem a little bit older, as she's now going to be turning 16. I'm wondering if the slightly rebellious attitude we saw in season 1 will be more... present this season.

In general, if I had to make a prediction, I bet this season will be about "hook-ups, break-ups, and [causing] trouble" as the descriptor on 1iota says. I bet Nikki/Nate will be thrown into relationship disarray at some point during the season, and the Leia/Nate/Jay thing will also come to a head fairly quickly. I could see Leia dating Nate for the majority of the season, but be fighting/denying her feelings for Jay the whole time. In the finale, finally she admits her feelings to Jay and there's a cliffhanger into S3.

Personally, of course, I'm hoping for some more #Geia content - and I'm confident we'll get it (both moments of friendship, and moments for 'shippers like me to squee over). I'm also hoping for a second Topher Grace appearance, another on-screen Eric/Donna moment, another on-screen Eric-Forman-as-a-dad moment, and seeing the whole Forman family interact again. Maybe for her sweet sixteen? 🤞

Oh, and I've said this before but I have this very clear storyline in my head where Ozzie comes out to his parents and it doesn't go well, and the Formans step in to help mediate and maybe even give Ozzie a place to stay temporarily (paralleling their care for Hyde, obv). At this point I might write it into a fanfic, lol.

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VELASCOOO

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Love this! All of this!

which character is your favorite from the new gang in T90S?

i really love nikki (probably because she's supposed to be the jackie of the show lmao)

I like Leia, Gwen, and Nikki the most.

Nikki is particularly intriguing. She has a lot of potential as a deeper character. She's who Jackie could have evolved into from Jackie's season 1 characterization, before the writers removed the subversion of the dumb cheerleader stereotype -- a cheerleader who gets As in school and does homework on Saturday nights -- leaving her a variation of he stereotype (e.g., "College is for ugly girls who can't get modeling contracts.")

Jay has potential, too, if the show leans harder into his love of nature and the glimpses of not-Kelso season 1 gives us (hello, Hyde's son -- oops, Kelso, Jackie has something to tell you ... 👀 -- or hello, Brooke's son! Jackie, Kelso has something to tell you).

Nate is essentially a second Kelso copy except for two eps of season 1 where he gets some development. He could benefit from the kind of characterization overhaul Hyde gets in "Prom Night" (1x19, T7S). His relationship with Gwen should be explored more, allowing them what T7S deprived Hyde and Angie.

I want so much more for Ozzy's character. Wonderful to get queer rep, but his sexuality isn't the most interesting part of who he is. It's a significant part, but let us see his passion for filmmaking. Why he's friends with whom he's friends with. Show those bonds. He's there, makes snarky commentary and comments about everyone, but he's also relatively isolated compared to the other kids and their friendships. The most concrete bond we've seen is between him and Kitty.

T9S will be far more satisfying if the writing goes beyond the surface and adds subtext. For all of T7S's flaws, the characters are fleshed out and full of subtext. I've written countless metas analyzing them because they (and their relationships) have enough substance to analyze. The T9S kids aren't there -- yet, I hope.

This turned into a meta instead of a simple response. 😅

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Happy Thanksgiving everybody ❤️

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The update of filming picking up again definitely sparked some motivation to write more T9S fic!

And while I’m not sure I can say I ship Leia and Nate yet I think Red would be happier if Leia did date Nate that a Kelso lol He did give Nate one of his shirts too!

Since T9S is returning I can now speak about these two

Something better happen between them!

Look, I'm not really expecting them to be endgame, but I hope the writers give material for future fanfictions.

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Wooo!!! Just in time for Christmas break! 😉😂

We're BACK, baby!!!!!!! 🤩

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Don't get me wrong, I LOVED seeing Eric and the gang but the appearance I was most excited to see may very well have been Bob. Seeing him with Red and Kitty again was perfect! Wouldn't have been the same without a reunion of these three!

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Absolutely loved this. And could totally see it happening in the T9S canon. Loved the way you wrote Hyde too, keeping himself distant but still you can tell he cares plenty for his friends and family.

Awesome work on this, I love it

Hi I really love your writing for That 70’s show and also That 90’s show! If it would be possible could you do one where Hyde visits Eric and Donna in the 90s? I don’t buy that he would never talk to any of them ever again, at least not the Formans and Donna. They were his family 🥹

Thank you so much anon! 💗 I share those thoughts about Hyde. I like to imagine that he finally made it to New York and is finding success and (hopefully) happiness there. It was harder to stay connected to the people we love before cell phones and social media, but I think Hyde would always stay in touch with The Formans in his own ways. You'll see my take on it below - this was actually my first time writing Hyde in the '90s!

If you have a writing request, you can send it to me here.

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"Hey." Donna knocked twice on the open door and then poked her head in their home office. Eric was hunched over his desk, grading some papers in the final, fading hours of a quiet Tuesday night. "Hyde just called. He's about fifteen minutes away."

"What?" Eric sat up straight in his chair, startled. He leafed a hand through his hair with a hasty sigh. "Why does he always do this?"

Donna didn't answer him, she just shrugged.

Hyde lived in New York now, and his visits back to the Midwest were sporadic and often unannounced, just like this. But once or twice per year he'd blow through Chicago, usually calling them from a gas station a few minutes before he'd arrive. He didn't come for holidays and he didn't like you to make a fuss over him. He never stayed the night, or even long enough for a meal. He'd spent so little time at their house that Eric marveled that he even remembered their address - but he did. Because he never missed a birthday, there was always a card or a call. Even for Leia. His goddaughter. They'd only met a handful of times, but Hyde seemed to remember every detail Eric had ever told him about her - about her grades in school, her pet bunny's name, that she'd started Brownies this year, when she'd broken her arm.

In return, Eric and Donna knew shockingly little about Hyde's life.

He still worked with W.B., running Grooves. The business was successful - extremely successful. Multimillion dollar level successful. But Hyde never liked to talk about it.

"Pshh," he'd swat the questions away. "Work. Boring."

He didn't like to answer questions about his personal life, either. Who he was dating, what kinds of fun things he got up to in New York, about the different places he traveled for work.

"You don't want to hear about that stuff," he'd insist, swatting at their questions like flies. Pushing them away. Keeping them out.

"We do," they'd try to tell him. "We care about you. Tell us about your life."

But he'd give them that same easy-going smile he always had. "Nothing to tell, man."

He pulled into the driveway tonight in a small, taupe coupe. Eric stood at the front porch watching for him, and he grinned immediately as his old friend stepped from the vehicle and ambled up the front walk, clutching his belt buckle. His hair was cut shorter (to hide some pattern balding) and his face showed some signs of age too, but his gait and his energy was the same he'd had as a teenager.

Eric jerked his chin at the car. "That must be a rental, huh?" The car wasn't at all Hyde's style.

"I asked for a Pick-up and they hand me the keys to this fuckin' thing," Hyde shook his head, bemused, as he reached Eric. The two men didn't hesitate - they embraced in a hug for a long moment before pulling back, clapping each other on their shoulders.

"Wow Hyde. New look for you?"

Donna had joined them on the porch, and she pointed to the coupe teasingly. Hyde shook his head, and they hugged, too.

"Temporary digs, man. I'm on a layover. Gotta get back to O'Hare in like," he glanced at his wristwatch. "Forty minutes."

"Uh, then you should leave now," Eric joked.

Donna grabbed Hyde's arm, though. "No! Hyde, my god. When's the last time we saw you?"

"It's been awhile," he agreed, smoothing a hand over the hair on his chin.

They moved inside the house, and Hyde glanced around. It was small, modest compared to the luxury apartment he must've lived in, but if he was unimpressed with the space he gave no indication. Instead he smiled faintly at the photos on the front wall - of Red and Kitty with Leia, Eric and Donna on vacation last year, and one of the whole extended family at the Forman's house for Christmas. He paused in front of one of the gang - it was an old photo, from high school. That night they'd all gone to that stupid disco. Hyde stared at it for a long moment and looked like he might say something, but instead he cleared his throat.

Eric and Donna were both looking at him intently. He glanced around them.

"Where's the kid?"

"She's asleep." Donna nodded towards the stairs, indicating one of the upstairs bedrooms. "It's almost ten o 'clock on a school night."

"Right." He dropped his gaze to the floor. "How about the john?"

"Down the hall," Eric pointed it out. Hyde nodded gratefully, and slipped off to use the bathroom. When he returned to the kitchen a few moments later, only Eric was there.

"You want a beer?" Eric offered him, unsurely. Hyde shook his head, no. "Pop? Water?" No again. "Okay." He nodded to the kitchen table. "You want to sit?"

"I only have a few minutes," Hyde said, but he pulled out one of the chairs and so Eric did the same.

"I know," he assured him. "I'm - I'm glad you came."

Hyde gave a half-shrug in acknowledgement. "So. How are things?"

Eric shrugged too. "They're... good. Fine. The same." He lifted his eyebrows. "You know - my mom pretty much covers it all in her Christmas Card letter, so..."

"Yeah," Hyde smiled, studying his hands. "I love reading that every year."

"Very thorough."

"Yeah."

Eric cleared his throat. "Have you talked to her and Red lately?"

Hyde moved his head from side-to-side. "From time to time."

Eric gave him a meaningful look. "You know man, she'd love it if you did that a little more often."

Hyde scoffed. "Give me a break, Forman." He lifted his eyebrows at his old friend. "How often do you talk to your parents? Huh?"

Eric paused, considering the question. "From... time to time," he admitted sheepishly.

"That's what I thought."

"Okay," Eric grinned down at the table. "So we could both call Mom more. Got it..." He glanced up at Hyde, who was also smiling. "But, hey. You could come visit more. For real, not for," he gestured around them, "Whatever this is."

"This is a layover," Hyde supplied snarkily.

"To where?"

"Flying to London. Business."

Eric gaped at him. "Okay, that is so cool."

Hyde shook his head. "Whatever - "

"No. You know where I'm going tomorrow?"

"It's whatever, Forman - "

"To a high school, where I'll teach math at a bunch of ninth graders who don't want to learn it all day. And then I'll sit in traffic for forty-five minutes in my piece-of-crap car to get home to this middle class monstrosity," he gestured around them at the gaudy floral wallpaper and their outdated kitchen appliances. He blinked at Hyde again, awed. "Waking up in London - every day being different - God. Your life sounds so cool."

Hyde slid his chair back abruptly, and he stood up.

"Really not that cool, man."

Eric swallowed. "Sorry. I just - I meant - "

"It's fine, man," Hyde assured him, his cool, suave persona back just as quickly as it had disappeared. "I know what you meant." His easy-going smile was back now. "And I just mean that I hope you know what a great thing you have going here." He tipped his chin down sincerely. "You have it made, Forman. You know that, right?"

"I know that," Eric assured him. He was studying his oldest friend thoughtfully. "Hey man, do you ever think about, you know. Settling down?"

Hyde wore a bemused expression. "Ain't built for that, Forman," he finally answered him, gruffly, but his voice held some affection too.

"Says who?" Eric asked, softly.

"Lots of people." He cleared his throat, and picked up his jacket, turning his body slightly away. He was shutting this subject down, just like he always did when Eric started to get too close. Not physically. Emotionally.

"Come on," Eric insisted, following him towards the front door. "When you get home from your trip - from London. Who's waiting for you at home. Huh?"

"No one. And get this, man: that's the way I like it."

Eric frowned. "It must get pretty lonely," he said softly.

"Loneliness," Hyde held up one hand. "Or freedom?" He held up the other, and moved them up and down like they were scales he was balancing. "It's a fine line." They stood out on the front porch again, the soft sounds of the sleepy city street surrounding them.

"Okay," Eric said finally, but his expression must've said something else because Hyde sighed.

"Don't worry about me, Forman."

"I won't."

"I mean it. I'm fine."

"I'm not worried."

But Hyde still looked at him skeptically. "I can see it in your puppy dog eyes. Don't get all after-school-special on me, Forman. I'm not one of your lost kids," he warned.

Eric put his hands up defensively. "I'm just wondering when we're gonna see you again. That's all."

Hyde scratched his beard. "Not sure," he admitted.

"You gonna be in London awhile?"

He gave a noncommittal shrug.

"But you'll be back, right?" Eric's voice tightened with anxiety, and Hyde chuckled at his transparency.

"I'll be back," he promised, doing a poor imitation of Schwarzenegger's Terminator. Eric visibly relaxed, and the two men shared a brief glance before they embraced again. "I'll always be back," Hyde added, softer.

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That '90s Show cast (and production) on the picket line! ✊🏻

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Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith with the cast of That '70s Show and That '90s Show both taken during the run of the first seasons of the shows. (I really wanna see the better version of the bottom photo!!)

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Unholy Trinity 

Boyfriend Day 1 (Season 1, Episode 7)

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It’s been a long day y’all. I’m just gonna stay in my happy bubble today ✌️

Me in my happy Red/Kitty bubble while others react to reboot news:

I’m getting Red/Kitty back so finally some new RK content and Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith are getting their chance to work together again-I’m happy for us, can’t burst my bubble 💛

Thought this was important to share.