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[the-monarch-effect-official]

Could you tell me about tinker bell and/or Peter Pan programming? I know I have tinker bell but I’m unsure if it’s it’s own program or part of Peter Pan

Tinker Bell Programming-Programming makes alters think they are like Tinder Bell in that they will never grow up or age. (Peter Pan Programming) Type 2 Tinker Bell Programming-Due to her size she can only feel one feeling at a time. This can lead to this part being vindictive, jealous, or appearing happy with no balancing emotion. (Peter Pan Programming) Type 3 Tinker Bell Programming-Death programming, if the part leaves the group they will die. As they will be taught the group will ‘forget them.’ (Peter Pan Programming)

Peter Pan is a script used in programming. There are parts in the system that would be given tasks/jobs.

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

I dont have great memory but I think I saw someone mention the term junior programmer here, never heard of it till then but I just came across this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o1r1rSqmtDDeqqYF1ofEVYukHA1QM73F/view

Page 13. " This is typically used by cults, however it can be used by Standalone programmers (aka junior programmers)"

Ah, I see. They are talking about: Type 3 Theta Programming-A label used for any spiritual programming.

A ‘standalone’ programmer is a ‘Junior programmer’. Different terminology than I use.

Thank you for sharing this with me.

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

If it's okay we just wanted to share a little victory we had in therapy. We're a ramcoa survivor system, and there's this subsystem he made me make, and it made me keep everyone separate, and everyone else in the subsystem was able to break free after a few years of therapy, but i was stuck in my cage because i failed, or i thought i failed, i didn't succeed in what he told me to do i guess, but i was able to come out for the first time in 15 years, in therapy, and yeah, i was able to talk, i was able to breathe for the first time in 15 years, i'm writing this with the help of another girl inside, but yeah, i'm free, I'm safe, I'm alive? -Luna

Luna,

Absolutely share your victory! That’s such a fabulous thing to happen. We’re so happy for you.

Thank you for telling us. I’m glad you’re free, safe, and alive.

Warmly,

Oz and Ozzie

[the-monarch-effect-official]

in a semi recent post, there was a mention of persecutor levels. would you explain this more? what are the different levels?

Persecutor Alters- Alters created by the child as a protective measure to ensure compliance with the abusers so as not become further traumatised. They act intimidating, and abusive, as did the abusers, and threaten the other alters with harm if any alter considers violating the wishes, commands, directives, etc., of the abusers. Such as disclosing the abuse, or refusing to attend rituals. 

     An alter who, for the sake of safety, has identified with the motives and agenda of the abuser and punishes other alters, internally (torment) or externally (self-harm), in the absence of the abuser when they do not measure up to the perceived expectations of the abuser. They do so in the hope of saving the person from even more abuse. These alters may enforce an abuser’s  rules about never crying, or punishing them for doing anything the abuser might object to. Often the persecutor alter is unaware that the abuser no longer has access to them as a result the alter continues the oppression when there is no longer the need.

     Some persecutors may be introjects of abusers. Some persecutor alters are alters from the system that internalised the rules of the perpetrator, and continue to follow those rules, but don’t necessarily believe themselves to actually be the perpetrator person whereas introjects actually think they are that perpetrator person.

In my notes that I have regarding alter/parts types there are eight types of persecutor alters. I’m not going to provide their roles as people have expressed concern regarding the amount of information I share. I want to ensure people are safe and I don’t provide ‘too much’ information. 

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

is gender confusion programming a thing?

Here’s what I have:

Gender Role Confusion Programming- Female alters are programmed with male attributes, and male alters are programmed with female attributes.

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

I have a germ of a theory that good Christian fiction has stories that are less about shaving down your personality to meet some specific mold of what a good Christian looks like, and more about "how gloriously different are all the saints."

Not that the Christian life doesn't involve fighting against our own sinful nature and conforming ourselves to Christ-like behavior, but I think it makes for better, more realistic, and more universal stories when you also recognize that people have different gifts and flaws and they're going to be called to use their unique personalities to serve the kingdom of God in their own unique way, instead of assuming everyone has to conform themselves to a very specific (often secular-culturally based) image of good behavior. It makes for a much more vibrant story.

[the-monarch-effect-official]

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Hey, you are not an embarrassment for not knowing how to do certain household chores/basic self-care. They do not come naturally to us. A lot of it takes practice! Maybe you had a neglectful guardian. Maybe you had one that was very coddling and never thought to teach you. Maybe you haven't lived in a place where these things were available to you or needed. Doesn't matter. It's okay to not know and far more common than you might realise.

That said, this website provides very simple instructions on how to do everyday tasks such as making your bed, using a washing machine, cooking different foods, washing dishes, taking a shower, etc. All you have to do is use the search bar to find the task you're struggling with, and it'll come up with what you need + other related how-to's:)

If you're having trouble navigating it, let me provide you with some examples:

How to clean dishes by hand

How to make your bed (with visual demonstrations of each step!)

How to fold clothes (with visual demonstrations of each step!)

How to take a shower & dry yourself off (also provides ways to shave beards, armpits, legs and genitals)

How to shave legs, armpits, beards, pubic areas, etc. (a more in-depth guide)

How to mop the floor

How to sweep the floor

How to swallow pills

How to make small talk

How to make eye contact in different situations (or how to avoid it while still looking natural)

It's also perfectly okay if these don't help or aren't appealing to you. Unfortunately, nothing helps everyone.

[the-monarch-effect-official]

with trauma memories is it possible to 1. make it all up? and 2. remember someone being involved in your trauma but it might not have been them specifically? like misremembering who was involved? we have DID if that changes the answer slightly.

Anything is possible. That being said, people who are making things up know they are making it up.

There's a difference between making things up, memory distortion, and false memories. When you say misremembering it sounds like you’re not making things up but trying to sort out the memories of what occurred. Take your time in doing this and be gentle with yourself.

Take care,

Oz

Traumatic Memories Are Not Necessarily Accurate Memories

Memory Distortion for Traumatic Events: The Role of Mental Imagery

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Okay guys, I'll leave you tonight with this:

Reminder that whatever I post may be triggering, especially to RAMCOA victims, especially Monarch victims (just about anything could be one). In this case, this piece is meant to be set in a club.

Smile For Me, Will Ya?

Some notes:

He looks like his brother. This is partially because of the perspective inconsistencies, but I think that making his head smaller will help me see it better.

For reference:

(I drew this in like 15 minutes and I'm severely put of practice, especially for Fritz (right) )

The stretched out hand is jank (tis but a sketch) - the reason the pinky is curled in is because it was originally below the bottom.

The glass took a while (I don't normally draw cups let alone champagne glasses), still haven't decided what to do with the liquid.

I just realized that, while here's smoke comming out of his mouth, there's no tobacco to be found.

Background is bit weak

Take this as a sketch - I'm thinking of something a lot more vibrant, especially with the background. The figure is meant to be "Samuel" from someone else's perspective (likely someone he's harassing, thus the title "Smile For Me, Will Ya?"). This is meant to be a callback to the days when The Monarch Effect was still a Smiler fanfic. I want clear contrast with light/dark, since duality is a motif I want to explore.

When I get it done, I will post here and on DA @ NoOnesNormal.

[the-monarch-effect-official]

have you seen the netflix documentary wormwood? what are your thoughts on it?

Wormwood documents the alleged murder in 1953 of Army Scientist Frank Olson by government agencies related to the CIA.  In 1953, Olson’s family was told that he had an accident and may have fallen or jumped from a hotel window.  Later, in 1975, the Rockefeller Commission Report admitted that the CIA had drugged Frank Olson with LSD several days prior to the event of his death, as part of an experiment related to project MKUltra, and they suggested that as the reason for his “suicide.”  The government then apologized for the mistake in the experiment.  The series documents Olson’s son Erik’s pursuit of answers, litigations, and reporting that will expose the truth he hopes to find regarding his father’s death.

The title comes from Biblical scripture in Revelation 8:11, where a star called “Wormwood” falls to earth and turns the water bitter.  The scripture is referenced in the series, as well as several scenes from Shakespeare’s play Hamlet, as “wormwood” is also mentioned in Shakespeare to mean the “bitter truth”.   

The documentary takes the interesting perspective that the reason for Olson’s death was both his disagreement with the treatment of people in experiments carried out during interrogations under Project Artichoke, as well as his being highly opposed to what he believed to be germ warfare carried out by our country during the Korean War.  In the late nineties, Frank Olson’s body was exhumed, and the report from examiners reveled evidence that suggested that Olson could not have fallen out of the window.  There were no lacerations from glass on the body, and there was also a blow to his head above his eye.  

Ultimately, the audience is left with the most plausible suggestion that the CIA saw Frank Olson as a threat and contacted the Office of Security to deal with it.  At one point, Erik Olson finds a document for assassination protocol for 1953, which suggests handling problem- people by knocking them on the head and “dropping” them out a window.  

Other than being long, the documentary does well in compiling documents that are publicly available, as well as revealing a plausible timeline of events leading to Frank Olson’s death.  Conclusions drawn by those who have been following this story for years include the fact that even when some people know the whole truth, it will likely never be revealed.  Part of the story in the documentary has to do with the fact that in looking for the truth regarding his father’s alleged murder, Erik has lost part of his own self.  At the end, Erik mentions Wormwood as a bitterness that has engrossed him.

I think the documentary does a good job in exposing a tactic that is used by the government in the way it both hides the truth and takes responsibility for the wrong stories.  It also shows how a web of people are often involved in the unscrupulous way that it perpetuates crimes against citizens.  The evidence that is presented is believable in such a way that it makes other evidence believable.  It also shines light on the arrogance of a governmental system continues to get away with devaluing the lives of humans, while claiming the role of providing security for our nation.

I did not see many overt triggers for mind control, although a brief scene where Frank is being shouted at while under the influence of LSD may be triggering to survivors.  The other message for those stuck within the system would be a reminder of the extreme power to manipulate truth and events that the government holds.  Other than that, people watching this documentary can learn to look for the other side of stories that have to do with events related to the government.  Asking the right questions can put you in touch with truth.  

~Josha

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Do you know about any Mk ultra programs run in Australia or New Zealand?

Here are a few:

University of Adelaide in South Australia-In order to further the scientific and academic study of psi phenomena. This division of the university’s Department of Psychology, named the Anomalistic Psychology Research Unit (APRU) -Aboriginal Australians were subject to medical experiments on how they experienced pain and where body measurements and blood samples were forcibly taken.

Australian National University in Canberra, ACT-Where Leonard G.H. Huxley served as Vice-Chancellor (1960-1967). 

University of Western Australia-CIA's Human Ecology Fund gave a research grant to Professor Ronald Taft. 

Callan Park (Australia)-Cerebral Surgery and Research Unit at Callan Park Psychiatric Hospital. After his (Dr. Harry Richard Bailey) appointment, the Sydney Sunday tabloid declared in September 1957, “Human guinea pigs in test: A Sydney mental specialist and 15 other volunteers deliberately sent themselves temporarily insane in recent mental research tests.” Bailey was the man behind this experiment at Callan Park. He went on in the article to promote LSD as a hopeful method of treating “mental cases” and said that these experiments would hopefully trace the section of the brain which is affected by schizophrenia. In 1959, Bailey became the Medical Superintendent of Callan Park.

Chelmsford Private Hospital-Became Australia’s worst psychiatric disaster where over 1,400 patients were subjected to hypnotic drugs, ECT and DST in a mostly experimental fashion  without  informed  consent. The  entire  Chelmsford  medical  team were previously involved  in  a  eugenics  program  of forced  adoption  at  Sydney’s  Crown Street Hospital for Women where babies were taken from ‘unfit’ mothers and given to mothers deemed more appropriate.  A massive 64% of unwed mothers had their babies stolen at Crown Street Hospital. Harry Bailey used hypnotic drugs to make the reluctant birth mothers comply. He directly  ordered  the abortion  of  twin  foetuses  without  the  consent  of a  woman  who  was under the influence of hypnotic drugs.

Concord Military Hospital (Australia)-Leonas Petrauskas.

Crown Street Hospital for Women in Sydney- It was here that they were involved in a eugenics program of forced adoption from ‘unfit’ mothers, to ones who were deemed more appropriate. Bailey had helped to introduce methods of using hypnotic drugs to make them comply. He directly ordered the abortion of twin foetuses without a woman's consent while she was under the influence of these drugs. 64% of unwed mothers had their babies taken at Crown Street.

Engadine Medical Centre (Australia)-Leonas Petrauskas.

Cerebral Surgery and Research Unit at Callan Park Psychiatric Hospital in Sydney-September 1957, the Sydney Sunday tabloid published an article about a Callan Park experiment, headlined: ‘Human Guinea Pigs in Test: A Sydney mental health specialist and 15 other volunteers deliberately sent themselves temporarily insane in recent mental research tests.’

Milson Island in the Hawkesbury River north of Sydney-Became a MK- ULTRA  research facility.

University of Sydney, AUS-MK-ULTRA psychiatrist Martin Theodore Orne, performed an experiment titled ‘Antisocial Behaviour and Hypnosis’.

University of Sydney Psychology-Faculty  head, Alfred  Gordon  Hammer,  approved Subproject  84. Gordon  Hammer  (then  APS  Chair). Professor Martin Orne. In 1960, Professor Orne's work took him to the University of Sydney.

IIE-Financed Fulbright scholarships into Australia and the Institute was founded by Elihu Root (a founder of the Council on Foreign Relations, co-founder of the Carnegie Endowment and a member of the Pilgrim’s Society) and Stephen P. Duggan who was also a member of the CFR and known as the “apostle of internationalism”. USEFA was based at Huxley’s Australian National University during the main years of imported CIA operations.

Cherry Farm Hospital In The South Island Of New Zealand-Between 1973 and 1978 - a version of Deep Sleep Therapy was used in several wards.  used electro convulsive therapy or ECT as standard practice. Dunedin prison - who we were told would also undergo deep sleep or narcosis therapy in an especially locked-down unit of the villa. Cherry Farm was the hospital to use deep sleep therapy most; many patients were not given optimal treatment; the specific application of modified narcosis was inappropriate and applied to a large number of patients up to 1978.

Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital (New Zealand)-Children in the 1970s were tortured with electroshock, including to their genitals, and given injections of paraldehyde, a central nervous depressant as punishment. child and adolescent unit were routinely punished with unmodified ECT (ECT without anaesthesia).

National Women’s Hospital in Auckland, NZ-Herbert Green.

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Hello! I was wondering if you could provide any further insight into “junior programming” aka programming carried out separate from an organization and by a non professional (specifically in the context of beta programming)? All I have ever been able to find on the subject is that it typically doesn’t work how it’s supposed to and the end result is lots of incomplete and unsuccessful programming which usually ends up presenting itself as just a heavily traumatized and conditioned child. Does going through this even make me a survivor of TBMC? And what exactly are the long/short term effects of incomplete or poorly executed programming? Thanks in advance!

I don’t know what your definition of programming is. Junior programming isn’t a term I’m familiar with.

On going sexual abuse and sexualassault aren’t considered beta programming. Someone who is a survivor/victim of sexual trauma has learned how to respond to their abuser. Conditioned responses as well as trauma responses are normal in this circumstance.

Programming falls into four categories:

Successful Programming-The individual has a complete system with a script, map, triggers, and programs. All programs are in place, as well as scripts, and anchored.

Incomplete Programming-The individual's programming was interrupted. For example: extended illness, absence of a programmer, an incident that led to a space of time where programming could not take place. The individual can still be programmed. This gap must occur between the ages of 0-8.5 years of age. 

Some indicators of incomplete programming are; Alters did not develop to their full capabilities due to the absence of a programmer/handler or illness of the child. Parts of the system aren’t built to full script, therefore some symbols may be absent. 

Unsuccessful Programming-The individual has an almost complete system but there are flaws. the individual would have a script, map, a majority of programs, and triggers. The system would be able to function but there would be ‘gaps’ in the programming. This could be a result of incomplete programming.

     Some of the indicators of unsuccessful programming are; system parts being able to travel to different levels unimpeded, different colour sections blending, one program not linking to another program ending a chain response that was supposed to continue, programming breaking down earlier than the typical age (30), triggers for programming are absent leading to instability within the system, and alters as well as those on the outside being able to 'override' programming without issue.

Failed Programming-The individual did not survive programming, or could not psychologically accept the programming and was terminated.  

You get to decide what to name your experience. 

Take Care,

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Good afternoon, this ask is not RAMCOA related but I have nowhere else to ask and suppose you might know. I am looking for any (reliable, scientific) literature or studies on the impact a parent/abuser with DID might have on a child (who also developed DID). Especially with regards to the conditioning in the child to develop alters in order to be 'the right child for each alter of the parent'. Anything is welcome. Thank you in advance.

That’s pretty narrow criteria for research to be completed. Research typically is a bit more broad. For example: Impact on parenting with DID. Most of the studies I found were a bit dated. But I have listed them below.

Multiple Personality Disorder As Perpetrator Of Child Abuse

Childhood Abuse Perpetrated By Adults With Multiple Personality

The Parental Fitness Of Mothers With Multiple Personality Disorder: A Preliminary Study

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

Survival of the fittest programming

Can you expand on how this is programmed into someone? Like a basis.

Survival Of The Fittest Programming- The programming is training for strength, absence of fear, endurance, absence of pain, methods of killing, completing physical challenges while in a weakened nutritional state, and survival training. (High control groups/Military)

A lot of people mistake this programming for Delta programming. Survival of the fittest is based on criteria being met for this programming to begin. Some of that criteria is; The individual must have the ability to adapt (problem solving), Physical requirements, Dissociative requirements, and ability to work with others as well as alone.

Programming is completed through training scenarios. For example surviving three days in a dry arid region with limited supplies. Games such as capture the flag where if the individual is caught they are tortured.

Oz

[the-monarch-effect-official]

have you heard of cats/kittens being used in programming? specifically ones that are attached to colours? (pink kitty, green kitty etc) that act out a specific role?

Cat/kitten alters are often found in Beta programming. They can be colour coded for their role/job in the system.

Oz