verygoodestboy

[verygoodestboy]

trans boys are in need of protection. trans boys deserve protection. protect trans boys. love trans boys before they are dead.

trans men are in need of protection. trans men deserve protection. protect trans men. love trans men before they are dead.

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White trans men stop telling me how I'm opressed for being trans not a man. My black ass dont care what you think, your understanding of opression is shallow and white and i dont want to hear it anymore. I am not gonna seperate my identity into little parts and sort them into the "opressed" and "not opressed" boxes, bc that's straight up just not how it works.

If you're a white trans man maybe consider that your views on privilege may still be skewed twards whiteness and be a little more tactful when you decided tell all trans men who their opression works

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it’s like society will die if it doesn’t refer to trans men as women for like. two seconds.

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the most attractive thing a woman can be is pedantic and pretentious

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firm reminder that if you’re saying shit completely indistinguishable from bigots like “we gotta start killing trans women” “trans men should just take some dick and they’ll be normal” “[slur for intersex people] are such a small minority and they always make it about themselves” (all real opinions i have seen Multiple times) then you can fuck right off

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never kill yourself Black transgender men in your area ok? Black transgender men near you!!!

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the most attractive thing a woman can be is pedantic and pretentious

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not to get too heated about it

[verygoodestboy]

white people stop comparing racism to things that are not racism challenge level: unbeatable.

i was gonna leave this in the tags but no. this shit actually pisses me the fuck off so bad; i’m so fucking sick and tired of this whiteass website taking the systemic oppression of MY PEOPLE, WHO HAVE SUFFERED SO MUCH FOR SO MANY GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DIE IN THE STREETS and trying to use us and our suffering as a gotcha for internet points that don’t matter in a discourse fight that’ll eventually shake out in the favor of the group asking for their strife to be acknowledged (BECAUSE IT ALWAYS DOES, WE’VE DONE THIS BEFORE).

keep Black people out of your mouth unless your FUCKING HELPING US.

i’m so fucking sick of you freaks dishonoring my ancestors by trying to drag us and them in front of the class to try and make your stupidass point.

This is what you sound like talking about how trans men can't have gender privilege by the way: "I think most white woman vs black woman discourse ultimately stems from the painfully patriarchal worldview that black people and white people are opposites. Whatever privileges white people experience, black people experience the opposite. Whatever violence black people experience disproportionately, white people perpetrate it. Blacks are oppressed and whites oppress. And when we're only talking about men, that's pretty accurate.

But it doesn't really work when you map it onto women. Because patriarchal society doesn't reward or empower any sort of women to oppress anyone. Women do not have any sort of race-based privilege.

Black women and white women should not be understood as race-oppressor and race-oppressed the same way that male-centered black liberation views white people and black people. Doing so is honestly just blatantly ignoring the reality of women's lives, and will always just be a form of racialessensislism and/or bioessentialism."

I think you might be stupid. I really don't have anything else to say. This is stupid and not a good comparison at all. I don't think you passed English class in high school.

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WAS BASIC FEMINISM PIONEERED BY RACIST WHITE WOMEN? DOES BASIC FEMINISM ACKNOWLEDGE THE RACIAL ELEMENT OF GENDER?

"lol how can you disagree that ALL men have male privilege it's basic feminism" did said basic feminism take trans men into account while being developed? Does said basic feminism conflate male identity with being classed socially as male under patriarchy?

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you cannot be meaningfully pro-trans if you are anti-men and anti-masculinity.

yes, even if you're trans yourself.

transness often has ties to masculinity on top of femininity. whether it's because someone is a trans man or transmasc, or if they used to be a boy or a man, or if they were forced to be a boy/man.

trans women and transfems who can't, or don't want to, transition or pass exist. nonbinary people aren't strictly androgynous or Woman Lite(TM). trans men and transmascs who are virtually indistinguishable from cis men are still trans and belong in trans spaces.

masculinity is part of transness, no matter if it's beneficial or detrimental to an individual.

by being anti-men and anti-masculinity, you are being unsafe for your non-cis siblings.

you cannot be meaningfully pro-trans if you are anti-men and anti-masculinity.

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as an aside (not related to the anon i just answered) but i literally can’t decide if i ever want to answer anons sent in bad faith likeee

i’ve had one sitting in my inbox for literal months at this point insinuating that it’s a good thing that Black trans women are considered martyrs in the queer community. like sorry dog, i don’t think you actually know what martyr means!!

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the only way you can come to the conclusion that men aren’t forced into femininity is if you’ve never talked to someone who grew up as a girl about the ways they were forced into gender roles, you think that they’re lying, or you think that trans men aren’t men or didn’t grow up as girls, and I don’t know which is more fucked up

it’s literally that easy. the problem is always that people try to act like only the things that THEY PERSONALLY experience(d) are real and everyone else must be stupid/lying/confused/etc.

gender conformity is what society demand of all of us, it’s not rocket science that it demands it in different ways for different people

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give that man a PUSSY

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On a more serious note re: forcemasc, I think folks get so caught up in the reeds of comparing it to forcefem that they forget that 1) kink doesn’t have to make sense or conform to reality in any way and 2) the same things that make forcefem liberating for some transfems also apply to forcemasc. Speaking from personal experience, there is something so, so good both about being forcemasced and forcemascing someone else. It can just be flavoring to get your dick wet, sure, but it can also be about surrendering control of your body to someone else the same way as all submissive kinks are. It can be about someone seeing you, the real you, hidden behind the current body you inhabit and desiring it so badly they do whatever they can to make you that way. In direct opposition to a society that wants you to stay feminine and estrogenized, it represents the opposite. And for many that’s intensely liberating, in addition to just being hot.