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I actually agree with both. I feel like it is a case by case basis based on the people who watch it.

Tldr: long post but...

- I believe that media is important to protary and show how a person could be not based on race, sexuality etc.

- I have learned things from media that were important to MY development as a person and gave me insight on things I was doing wrong/ issues I had and made me feel seen and understood.

- People focusing on details like sexuality [especially on Riely who is a teenager] and not the protaryal of chatacter don't understand the importance of a lesson or character. They focus too much on what a character COULD be in a context that isn't important to the film.

- As an adult and speaking for when I was a teen, I felt werid that who I was is judged based on my sexuality and gender over HOW I act and how I treat people. I don't think children should be forced to decide a label so quickly, nor should we assume labels. Nor force labels on minors in general, this is their phase of learning how to interact with the world.

- Having media be a way to help victims cope is good, and we should encourage media to be used this way as well. It has helped me process things I have been through and allowed a third person view for me.

-huge difference between irl and Media/fiction

- we need to be aware that people have different ways to cope and what brings us peace.

Tldr of TLDR: we need to stop focusing on specific aspects of media and it being "problematic" and instead how it can help develop someone's viewpoint and even help them get through trauma. Media doesn't define who a person is in real life. It is thier actions and the environment they grew up in.[And stop pushing sexuality on child/teenager characters for the love of God 😭. ]

I recommend the full post, but I only put tldr because of tw warning, please read tags.

For me, I have watched,read, and seen stuff before that have not affected me as a person too much. In fact, it builds upon how I write, how much research I do for accuracy, etc. You can make, animate, and do things with a character inheritedly bad in nature, but that doesn't affect your moral standing. There is a difference between fiction and IRL after all.

If someone is actively committing the crime irl, then that is what their moral standards are at. Forcing "unproblematic" media onto people doesn't fix any issues or teach us as adults, children, or anyone else what IS a problem.

I think media and real life contribute a lot of things, I remember hearing about a guy who changed his mindset because FROLLO of all people showed him what kind of person he was and that he needed to change to be better. This is an example of how media can affect someone and give them insight into what could be wrong

Media could be used to create, educate, show, and interact with things. Not actively harrass, hurt, threaten, give SUCIDAL threats and other things. Or consider a media bad for... not including gay people? I am a part of the LGBTQ+ community, I don't give a shit about if a character is a part of my community. I GIVE a shit if the media is able to show and protary who I am, wrong or right.

I HATE how people who always do that, how they tie a character to race,gender, and other things. I think people are bad because they are bad people in nature. I do think that we need to, however, not push stereotypes to a character and portray them as a character, not as a stereotype.

I learned from the article about the teenage brain and how the brain is affected by the environment around them, who is taking care of them, etc. If we suppress media because it is problematic because of a character and what they do: how are you supposed to learn and take an example?

Let me just example this with inside out 2: a great movie I feel like I could relate to on a bigger level. I was a 17 year old at the time it was published, and it showed me visually and mentally how anxiety when not maintained on a level that is balanced, that is, becomes bad. I remember this detail from a health book from when I was 16 and couldn't do a gym that...anixtey can be healthy if maintained on a level of equality. Due to my childhood, stress, and trauma, I developed a Adjustment Disorder with anixtey and Depressed Mood. [Two links down there for you to read about it]

How do you think it felt for me for my anxiety issues to be basically showcased on screen? I felt SEEN, I could understand those issues I had on a visual level.

But of course, the issue people have is because they think, "Riley's sexuality is important." This girl is a FUCKING TEENAGER; if anything she is developing as a person; sexuality is a part of learning who you are: not a main point. If anything, it should be concerning that adults are concerned with this more than the lesson of the movie. In fact, as someone who was a teenager, I hated when people pushed sexuality on me.

The ONE time I embraced who I was, my bio-dad literally didn't allow me to tell my uncle of all people who I was and who I thought I was. I don't regret saying something because I still lean towards being non-binary- but now i'm gender fluid because I feel like my Gender identity changes. I am fine with people seeing me as a girl or boy based on how I talk, I don't care to much about what gender people call me because judging them for how they see me does nothing in the long run when I feel differently everyday to as long as a months worth of feeling like a woman because I felt like I was one.

Basically, it is on the person who interacts with it. Media may help them process, see what a person is, etc. If anything, I actually think it is the people you interact with, feeling like you want to fit in, etc, that makes someone act a certain way.

I think media can also be a good way to help someone cope with which things they have been through. Everyone goes through things that bother, be traumatized, and stress them out. Having media you can interact with can allow for better processing and stuff. I mean, when I made this chatacter who has hurt people and roleplayed out a situation that still reminded me of the abuse I went through, it allowed me to sit and read and see it from a outside perspective while also allowing myself a moment of clarity about how I was treated badly as a child. It has led me to fear failure, abandonment, and other things.

That helped me a lot more than suppressing the media, which shows me what abuse looks like. It helped me connect links and allowed myself not to run back to him. The man who decided abusing a child and thinking letting their knees sit on rice was a better punishment than EDUCATING THEIR CHILD?

This is an example of what I mean, i am sure a lot of people can relate to this. But think about how media has allowed you to change, be better, or allow you to see red flags.

We need writers to show us how situations can play out, to show how a character is suicidal and how they go through life, and how support helps one. We need to be shown on screen how groomers and abusers can hurt and manipulate the victim as a villain, to SHOW and not TELL.

I also think happy and unproblematic media should exist, that it could be a safe place for those who need that. Because the world isn't as bad as it is put up to be, but it certainly can be. Even if that media is MLP-infected au, honestly, it has been an odd, safe place for me. Minecraft, as much as I hate the developers sometimes... the game brings me peace that has helped me have a clear mind. But horror keeps a straight mind because it allows me to relax and be able to remember the horrors I have gone through without issue and it has been a safe place.

As people, we need to remember how others have different things,places, and methods that help them cope, relax, and be themselves without judgment. I only don't want to judge because I feel like I would be the same as the people who judged me for who I am and shut me out. Maybe I WILL overreact due to actual reasons [my anxiety is heightened due to the disorder.], but that doesn't mean that I am bad, but that also means I am not fully good as a person. People may see me either way, but that doesn't excuse how I treat people.

Anyways I hope this is a good post in general, I know I am not fully correct, but I feel like I am a good place to repost and comment.

Thank you if you read and/or reblog.

I think the thing that kills me in anti rhetoric is that, to prove their point that "fiction affects reality", they often refrain from ACTUAL self-declared fictional media like cartoons, movies, books, etc., and start listing things like propaganda or common societal misconceptions and try to refer to these as "fiction"

So, in the nicest way possible to whatever anti needs to hear this, Birth of a Nation, the idea that mice like cheese, and SpongeBob SquarePants are all viscerally different at their FUNDAMENTALS, and conflating them for your point does NOT make you look or sound smart, I'm sorry lol

#tw violence #tw abuse #tw FROLLO /j #tw unusual punishment #tw punishment #tw suicidal mention #social media #media #opinion #fiction #media should be used in multiple ways to protary people who exist #media should also be used for good and peace #coping #coping mechanism #acceptance #please be respectful #safe for anyone to interact #opinions appericated

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How Selfishness Contributes to The Arch Illagers Down Fall

Authors Note ------ First, before we start this, as many others said, Minecraft Dungeons deserved a lot more than what it got. I wish within the game you could learn about his story, but of course, you have to pay 10-20 bucks for a book just to read it, the whole book is just the trailer and a little extra [AND more than the trailer could ever give] . However, I don't regret buying the book, that is how I got into the fandom myself. If you want to read it, I recommend going through Wikipedia for the plot, I could have made a PDF file of the book I bought, but I was the type in middle school to draw scenes onto it. However, within the post, you WILL get book snippets for character reference.

Let's be honest with ourselves, this game had so many chances to be a story all Minecraft players could enjoy around the world. Unfortunately, that is not the case...instead in my opinion, the game became slightly, if not a shameless way to market Minecraft to get quick money, it is like Legends and Earth, there was no way for these games to EVER have a good chance to become its own thing and be loved. To have to play DLCS to get the full story is BS in itself. The true story is about a victim of the orb of dominance whose decisions were affected by some selfishness.

Intro ---- Hey, do you remember that post with Magnifico and the Arch-Illager and about how the Arch-Illager had a better position to be the villain? Yeah, I still hold that opinion the ACTUAL reasons were... 1. The character in general. 2.The motives portrayed in the story. 3.The relationship between both 'characters' I still believe those reasons to be true, although the game sucks at letting that be what comes across. The story was a market attempt to allow players of the game to know the lore and... honestly, if it was in the game, it would have been nice... This idea came into concept after talking to a friend about how Walda mentions how Archie and Thord bickering was something that showed they were more concerned about themselves than anyone else...and to be honest? She is correct, this act of trying to make themselves look good without the concern of those who passed WAS selfish. I talked about how the main flaw of most characters was their selfishness within the story. Then in the silence, that gave me an idea, this essay here. Thord and Archie were thinking about themselves and that got Archie into trouble. Karl being self-absorbed over his 'feelings' being hurt caused Archies selfless action of leaving the village Archie BECAUSE of selfishness took the orb because he wanted to prove everyone wrong, not use it to better people's lives. Archie loses his Friends, the PEOPLE he loved because he was selfish to raid their village. The orb was selfish in wanting this power and using Archie as a vehicle for its true motives. Karl is smart enough to run away, but he is so selfish that he runs away, and NEVER comes back to help the heroes knowing what was happening was wrong. Hell, you could say it was pure fear that caused these actions. Walda and Thord were selfish to not only allow Archie out in the forest to die, but they were selfish enough to take Archies's throne. Thord was SELFISH and stole and his SELFISH behavior led to his death. These examples are what are here for reasons, Salah you could argue was selfish to want to kick Archie out...but that came with a little bit of logic and the thought of their people. Yumi does call them out, she KNOWS they would do nothing to defend the village compared to Archie. Yet Archie was selfless and knew it would be safer for his friends to leave.

Thesis - Selfishness contributes to the story.

In the story, the lesson can be that Selfishness contributes to eventual bad outcomes and conflicts. It repeatedly throughout the story shows that it leads to horrible things no matter how selfish it is. Like other villains, their selfish actions lead to harm. Frollo due to selfishness decides to continue with sin, leading to his death. Ursula due to selfish reasons, wanted the trident for herself, therefore it leads to her death. Scar due to his selfishness, wanting the throne, dies in consequence. All of these characters have a negative outcome due to selfishness on their part. However, this isn't about them, this is about several selfish characters in "The Rise of The Arch-Illager" who suffer from not being selfless... and one moment that shows that even with selflessness, it led to a selfish choice. What happens that is interesting is that...Archie is not really the antagonist, it's Thord. The story is about how Archie becomes the antagonist in the end, he does take on the position against the real protagonists, the heroes by the final pages and the damning raid revealed in the trailer. Archie gets another chance at the end of the story because the heroes know what kind of person Archie truly is. The narrator knew nothing of this, it is painted in a light that is misleading in a few ways. That speaks volumes about how different these things truly are. The narrator knows of the danger, not the person who causes it. The Arch-Illager is the combination of Archie and The Orb of Dominance. In fact, the future actions that are made, are also selfish decisions of the orb. This might explain why the Orb is destroyed and Archie isn't.

But this is about the Arch-Illager, or rather Archie, so let's talk about each listed selfish thing for Archie.

The Selfish Actions of Archie.

These actions are important because it shows the character of Archie, and how his past influences affect how he approaches the world. There are 3 arcs in my opinion, The Mansion Arc, The Village Act, and The Orb Act, each act develops Archies's character, but also shows his main traits. He is Compassionate, fearful, peaceful, and reasonable [justified or not], yet he can be selfish, aggressive, and defensive. He has so many times where it shows who he is. But this is about selfishness, not everything else. [] The Mansion Act [] This act marks the first selfish act when he got kicked out due to self-interest, and Walda's decision. Walda had several reasons to kick out Archie, that are addressed before he is kicked out. Like him being Weak, and that he 'endangered a life of a fellow Illager'. I will say how that is hypocritical due to Thord never getting kicked out due to him harming Archie. The selfishness comes from Archie caring about staying in the mansion, living and perhaps Thord to be gone. In those moments he didn't care much about what he might have done wrong, he put the blame on others, just like Thord did to him. His consequence was that after specific actions, Walda was upset, and despite his begging, she kicked him out forever. another consequence was that he was forced into the woods to try and survive.

[] The Village Act []

I would say this act is...interesting, there is no selfish behavior, in fact this arc marks his development. When he had defended Yumi, and his first selfless action happens here, which is important. You can say that Salah was a reason that Archie removes himself from the village, but in reality, Karl would have attacked either way. Karl KNEW who Archie was, if Salah was peaceful and Yumi had introduced Archie to the heroes, he would have attacked. Everyone knew salah was right including Yumi and Archie. That was when Archie was selfless, and that meant he was going...expect. [] The Orb Act [] This is an interesting act, because I have a feeling a lot of selfishness here ACTUALLY also includes the orb this time around. His development made him ready to face the woods, sure he almost died but he made it. It is revealed that the orb actually was a major reason for him getting guided there, and it means that Archie became a victim. Archie takes power from it, yet the Orb made him is vehicle for destruction. Even the orb says that their fates were 'forever intertwined', so here and forward it was a lot of the orbs decision too and was someone who encouraged these actions. Archie was also exhausted, so it was easier for the orb to get Archie on its side. Despite this, Archie still takes it because of Karl and Thord because they hurt him. To make them fall onto their knees, and yet it is interesting that the orb knows about his misery. In theory this means that he has some mindreading or some way to be in the victim's mind [like Bill Cipher]. Another selfish thing they do together is obviously raid the town, twice. This was selfish and it made Archie lose his dearest friends, and 'family'. The orb totally could have done this intentionally to put Archie in a spot where he would listen because he had no one else but it. They were selfish for trying to take the land and turning the villagers into slaves to 'work for the mines'. Archie knew these people to be someone people who did care, and yet...he did this to them. If anything in part I think this was the orbs decision, not Archies. The end of the book implies Archie is taken control of and from there it is easy to say anything else that happens that is selfish is of the orbs doing.

The Orb of Dominance and Manipulation

This is a lot more important than just Archie doing these actions, in fact the Orb protects Archie, feeds him, and gives him a place to sleep the FIRST day they met. This is a lot different than Yumi's decision, she did it out of empathy. She cannot guarantee full safety and comfort, but she can certainly try, and their friendship is mutual. They benefit each other and allow the other to learn some good traits. Yumi develops a point of view that explains Illagers and their violence and can sympathize with them a bit. Archie learns compassion for others, and that leads him to telling the Illagers to leave Yumi [and who she brings] alone purely due to it. Infact Archie even learns skills and actually helps the village, and it means he is thinking about others. Yumi doesn't let what upsets her to be bottled in when Archie is threatened. She speaks on how the heroes could care less of them, and would slaughter their pigs, cows, that they sleep in their beds, and steal their food. It speaks volumes on how and why she would trust Archie more than the heroes and it makes sense. The orb thought? it knows nothing, but the misery Archie has gone through and lures Archie into a position where he is listening and shakes its hand so to speak. Then when Archie is in its grasp it feeds him, comforts him, HELPS him. This thing is an object with a mind...if it had true compassion, it would welcome him with open arms to stay in the cavern and help before this. It is a small but important detail, it has no capacity to care, and will LIE to get its way, as Archie states near the end of the book. Half of the book is about how Archie is backed into this spot where the barley has no say in some of the actions, again acknowledged and implied by Archie that he was getting 'dominated' by the orb. He feels stupid for not thinking about the name before, yet...He was exhausted, weak, and literally just finished climbing a mountain before the deal was made. When you get to the boss fight that also proves that Archie was a vehicle to this, and he is TURNED into a monster by the orb of dominance because it wasn't getting what it wanted from Archie. We get not a single word in the game from this...and yet it is meaningful. Archie is making noise when he is sucked in, That I saw as possible pleading for his life, or even begging to just let him lose. Or he knew that the Orb wasn't going to let it end and he was forced to be in this position. Then...finally when the Orb was defeated and destroyed, Archie 'tries to keep on' [I don't think so], and it breaks. Archie free and ready to approach the world again. I think the orb in that moment was trying to hold onto Archie, wanting more, wanting the world and NEEDING its vessel. I mean that is how I see it based on their relationship. There are several times when Archie was ready to stop and leave this. SEVERAL in counting and I feel like it says a lot. Tldr: The orb is a manipulator who uses Archie as a vehicle to get what it wants for selfish gain.

Now...to talk about the actual topic of Villainy other than the orb.

Thord, how selfishness led to his death.

So... why is this important compared to someone as serious as the orb? Simple, he IS the true antagonist in the story. Until Archie took over the position of that role. He possibly intentionally backed Archie into getting kicked out of the tribe because he was selfish. He lies about Archie, with only a few truths to be selfish and keep himself there. He is selfish by blaming Archie of being the issue and then manipulates the situation by pretending he is hurt. After that he plots with Walda to bring Archie down because he is a selfish person. He steals from the Firey Forge because he does it out of benefit... The most interesting scene shows he is still selfish, begging for mercy, or a deal. He knows he fucked up and maybe will try to still hurt him, but he pleads. There is something interesting, a few chapters before the orb tells Archie to kill Thord, and he refuses to do so, instead making the raid early in the morning in spite. When he is robbing the Fiery Forge and Archie knows this... but Arc, who makes the suggestion to kill? The Orb, Archie is aware of Thords threat and has SUCH a good chance to make him pay for getting him kicked out. Kick him out for stealing and let him venture alone like HE did. To make him pay, He even suggests the idea of waiting to surprise Thord. He was not in the mood to wait. That is interesting, it was an interesting decision. Usually, Archie is rather patient, yet...listen to how the orb says this. " You need to defeat him. Now." Now I do think Archie had agency in his choice, he did. But... when he suggests the idea of waiting, that would be smart because then he could catch Thord and Walda and punish them both. But just to kill Thord? That is what interests me, I do have a feeling the orb had a lot more choice in what Archie does, but I also don't want to undermine that it was ARCHIE'S choice to choose how he could make Thord go. was this to scare him in his last moments to leave him vulnerable like he was to the monsters before? As they always do, Archie and Thord bicker, and both of them are upset. Archie WISHES to return the beating Thord had given him, but he makes the decision not to out of what Thord has, magic. After that, that is when Thord begs, and he is LITERALLY begging. I mean hey, at least Archie gets to chew Walda out with him knowing their plan and watch her fear him! It really isn't funny, it shows how the orb influences how he acts, and that is a burden us readers have to watch unfold.

Karl's Selfishness and how it leads to flee

The most interesting character is Karl, who is more selfish in his self-interest than arguably most characters in this book. He wants to conquer the land and have people kneel for him, yet despite how he acts, he isn't chosen by the orb. Probably because as much as Karl is dumb, I think he wouldn't trust this so easily. He also is just the worst person ever, he is selfish in his actions, what he thinks and... for his life. He spares Archie only for his own gain, that's right his selfless action becomes selfish because getting his name out there to scare the illagers matters more than a life. This doesn't come out the way he wants it to because they don't understand what he says. This is why he flees during the trailer, this out of fear but also selfishness. A hero would risk his/her life to save the world, and a village, yet he doesn't even do that in the first place! He just abandons it and no joke, basically never comes back. His confidence must have cracked.

The Orb and How it is defeated due to selfishness. - The Game

As explained, the Orb is broken into pieces due to its selfish nature. due to the end of the book, Archie goes onto this route because there was no going back. It was in the orbs interest to back Archie so far back that he feels like he could do nothing but go along. I think the orb is Selfish for using a vulnerable man who wanted to live as a vessel for what chaos it wanted. The Orb is selfish because it knows it will destroy relationships in the process. This character is the embodiment of how Power corrupts, and unfortunately allows Archie for some confidence building he needed...yet it was for hurt. It knows so much knowledge, you think it would spare Archie of having to do the work. Of course not! it doesn't have feelings, or emotions to its name. It is an artifact for god's sake, and it only WANTS to hurt. The book gives the characterization for the orb that was needed.

Then when it fails, it decides to push to the edge and becoming a monster, one that towers the heroes and shows what power it has over Archie. He had no consent to this, just the way he screams as he is pulled is such a risen red flag of how SELFISH the orb is to risk the life of its vessel. The orb was the monster the story needed...and that is what it got. Not Karl, not the illagers, not Salah and some of the villagers, not the undead, not the nameless one, not even Archie who was tricked. It was the orb of dominance, the truest and most selfish and monstrous character.

Conclusion

Woo we are done! expect for a basic TLDR for this entire post. All the characters in Minecraft dungeons have suffered due to some of the characters selfish nature. Those who suffered the most were the ones committing the selfish actions. Some characters even die or have something bad happen because of this. In my Opinion I think after the Village arc, all the selfish actions of Archie were due to himself and the orb as well. Admittingly with a lot of influence from the orb of dominance. And you know what? The game BARELY shows this narrative, no hints to this story and we are left to understand just little pieces of everything...which was the trailer. The game is about the sad outcome of when someone is made a vehicle for destruction. This game was never for the full story and that is sad. They could have made a more interesting game if they JUST gave the story a chance to thrive and show us these things. an Illager protag for the first half would have been SO interesting. Now it is a cash grab, with DLCs. It did what they wanted, and they mostly abandoned this game, only adding modes...and for what? It adds nothing to the beauty that this story is. It makes me despise the game and would prefer to keep this book which was the reason I stayed in the game. It would have been fun to have a game from Mojang that just isn't EMPTY. It is empty because the game was from a sandbox, and this doesn't to seem to be their field of expertise and it made the only interesting because of the small amount of story it has. Take it from, if you're planning to play the game and buy it, don't. Just grab the book and watch the Game on YouTube. Support Matt Forbecks book, and if you can't, that is fine, I might plan to go ahead and perhaps read this book and make a series out of it. Thank you for reading/listening to this whole pose.

{I will repost this blog once it has been posted on my YouTube Channel}

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