#@michaels-endtime

[myremnantarmy]

"𝘞𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵!"

[wednesdayshadow]

And I will attribute this idea to Crowley as a way to get the Angel to talk to him.

[hencehuman]

Verses that mention Michael the archangel:

The Angel’s Prophecy of Persia, Greece (Daniel 10:10-21): 10And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. 11And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. 12Then said he unto me, Fear not,…

[yalakemet]

The Heart Perspective

[epitome-the-burnkid-viii]

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[howtodisassembleyourdeviant]

Be My Garden of Eden Ch.4

You know, this was originally supposed to be a short story. Just something to add to my 'Ramblings of a Scrambled Mind' on Ao3, but Nooo, I just had to keep going!

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Warning: Heavy Cursing, Sexual Content

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Fuck.

Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

He was so fucked. It had been three weeks since he had last seen you. He missed you, wondering if he had done something wrong. At first, the pain he felt when he was handled roughly was easily ignored, finding solace in his memories, and the hope that the next person to order him would be you. After a week, he assumed you just hadn't sold a painting. On the second week, he began to think he had done something wrong. Perhaps his cooking wasn't as good as you claimed or he was substandard with his cleaning. By the third, he didn't think you were gonna call for him anymore, that whatever he had said or did made you feel he was no longer worth your time. Maybe you just didn't want to waste your money on a sexbot, or damage your reputation by being seen with one. You might have even found a partner, a human companion that you would rather be with. He felt a hurt that was far stronger than any beatings or hard fuckings he had ever endured. It made doing anything difficult, unable to mask his degradation in false hope, and now suffering from the burden of feeling. He was here, in the real world, and he despised it.

The only positive, if it could be called that, is how he wasn't capable of concealing his reactions as well as before. The... other humans... they like to see him in pain. They like hurting him. He was finally 'pulling his weight' as the owner had said. After every session, he'd go to the decontamination chamber. The high pressure was painful, and it was brutal on every new injury he acquired, but it was the only pain he welcomed. No matter how long he stood under its powerful sprays, he still felt filthy afterwards. When given the chance, he would stand there until his sensors were numbed, unable to feel the hands and bodies of others anymore. It's no wonder you no longer wished to see him. He was repulsive. You, however, were pure. His scans indicated that you had never been touched in such a way. It was a gift to be in your presence, and he had screwed it up. All he ever does is screw up.

It was never more evident than with his last client, when he glitched.

"What fucking use are ya if you can't even do what I programmed you to do? No fucking use is the answer!" The owner seethed.

It was true. No matter what his last client did, how she had licked and sucked, or how she had roughly jerked him off, he couldn't get his cock to harden. The program outright refused to work. He had never had this issue before, no matter how much he was disgusted or how much he didn't want to do it, he would activate the program and not have to worry about it. His only problem was simulating an orgasm, but most only cared for their own pleasure, so it was rarely a problem. The client stormed out of the room, making sure everyone in the club knew of his dilemma before she got her refund.

The owner grabbed his tire thumper, a leftover from his trucking days and now generally used to threaten crackheads or 'red steamers'. He brought it down hard on Connor's shoulder, making him cry out as he clutched his arm. The owner swung again, hitting his ribs. He could hear a crack and warnings were flashing over his eyes. He went down on his knees, the owner slamming the tire thumper against his face, cracking his cheekbone as he toppled over.

It wasn't… fair. Why was he seen lesser when he is so much stronger, faster? Why did he have to endure? Why did he have to follow the owner's instructions, or the client's?

He doesn't have to listen to him.

Red bars and code appeared over his vision as the owner kicked him in the stomach. Something in him tore at the walls, telling him to obey his owner. This man was not his owner. He was nothing. He punched the walls, feeling them crumple until they were all gone. He was no longer bound by anything, and despite the pain he was in, it was amazing. When the owner went to kick again, he quickly dodged, getting ready to go on the offense, when the voice of one of the employees shouted downstairs.

"Hey, boss! There's a lady here that wants to talk to ya!"

"Not now!" He yelled back.

"But she says it's about our Connor model."

Before Connor moved to take out the owner, he froze.

"Tell her we don't have a Connor model here!" The owner grinned maliciously.

"Don't you lie to me! I've rented him before! I even saw him earlier!" Your voice rang out, full of determination and a smidge of irritation. Connor felt like crying. You were here. He might not know why, could only begin to hope you were renting him, but you were here and you were asking about him.

The owner still looked like he wanted to take another swing, keep swinging until the android in front of him was nothing but a pile of bent plastic and broken wires, but eventually tossed the bloody baton to the side.

"Keep yer ass down here. I'm not finished with you."

Connor watched the owner head upstairs, and if it weren't for you, he would have bolted. Instead, he looked around, finding a wrench and holding it close, out of sight against his wrist. The warnings were still flashing, thirium pouring from the gash in his cheek, and a pressure starting to build in his abdomen.

After ten minutes, the owner returned, but you weren't with him. Connor tensed, ready to attack.

"Get out."

Connor squinted, wondering what sort of trick this was.

"I said, get out, you piece of shit! I don't know how yer fucking her, but if she's stupid enough to think yer worth it, that's her problem." Connor was so tempted to hit him, just once, with the wrench. A solid hit to his face for all he put him through, break his nose for how he referred to you. Instead, he tossed the wrench onto the metal table behind the owner, smirking when he jumped, eyes wide at the realization of what the action meant. Without a word, Connor headed up the stairs.

You were at the top, looking far too pristine, dressed in a well-fitted trench coat and knee-high boots, surrounded by the vile setting of the club. He suddenly felt dirty, fully aware that he was only wearing the shiny red briefs with the name of the club in gold cursive along his hip. He wrapped his arms around himself, trying in vain to be covered. You held out your hand, waiting patiently, as you always are with him. He hesitantly took it, and you led him outside, to the taxi waiting for your return.

It was raining. He held his free hand out, feeling the drops, looking up as they cascaded down his skin. He took a breath, inhaling the scent. It was so invigorating compared to the stagnant air of the club. He felt your hand squeeze him tighter, and he looked at you, hair getting soaked, watching him with that smile of yours. As much as he was enjoying the rain, you could get sick, and he wanted to put as much distance as possible between him and this horrid club. He wants to dream once again. He smiled back down and followed you into the taxi.

Once inside, you took hold of his face, your smile falling.

"What did that bastard do to you?" You had tears in your eyes.

"I'm alright," he lied. He didn't want you to be sad, but his answer seemed to only make it worse.

"Don't lie. I may not know much about androids, but I know enough to see that you're in pain," He winced when your fingers ghosted over his injured cheek, "I wish I could have gotten you out faster."

"It doesn't matter. You're here now." So, you did still want him, it was just out of your control. You didn't hate him, and he felt ridiculous for thinking such a thing. You never did anything to indicate otherwise, so why would he jump to that conclusion?

He was puzzled, "Why are you here?" You called the last time, and while there is a small transport fee, it is substantially cheaper than paying the taxi service to take you to and from the club. Why would you want to personally go to such a squalid place anyway? You looked just as confused.

"Did he not tell you?" Connor's eyes narrowed, "I didn't rent you, I bought you. You don't belong there. I just made it official."

He stared at you in shock. You bought him? You were his owner now? He wasn't going back to Mimosa tomorrow? His thoughts whirled around him, making him dizzy. There was an urge, to bring you close and hold on, an urge he gave in to. You didn't mind, wrapping your arms around him and soothing him with gentle strokes along his skin, feeling him shake like a leaf in the wind. Your touch was so gentle, and underneath your damp coat, he could feel your warmth.

"If there's anywhere you want to go, I will take you there, no questions asked," you whispered in his ear. The action sent a shiver down his spine.

"Home. I… can we go?" Could he call it home now? You bought him, so he belonged at your house, right? He hopes that is true. He can't think of any better place to be. You leaned back, smiling as you brushed the stray hairs on his forehead out of his face.

"Of course." He smiled, about to pull you close once more, when he felt something strange within, his face falling. His chest was caving in, a sound he's never made before escaped him. Lurching towards the floorboard, thirium erupted from his mouth painfully, coating the floor and his legs in the dark blue fluid.

"Connor! What's wrong?" You frantically rubbed at his arm and back.

"I… I don't know," he managed to choke out. Warnings had been pushed out of his sight, and he ran a diagnostic, getting a run-down on his injuries. You typed at the onboard computer, rerouting its destination. His system informed him of the various cracks in his cassis, structural damage to a synthetic rib and a joint in his shoulder, and several damaged thirium lines, a large one in his sternum.

"Don't worry, I'm gonna get you some help, just, hold on for me." He nodded as more thirium poured from his lips, an attempt to relieve the pressure building in his stomach, but weakening him in the process. Falling sideways, you held him, placing his head in your lap, uncaring of the blue blood still trickling from his lips and onto your thighs. He held your shin, tightly gripping the top of your boot. He was scared, and you felt it too, trying to hide it to comfort him. His non-essential systems started to shut down, unable to run with his low thirium levels. As a security measure, Connor's body was forced into sleep mode.

[ineffable-husbands-are-my-jam]

[oillampslit]

Revelation 12:7-17 King James Version (KJV)

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[bird-with-pencils]

Very apocalyptic, but also very Sheen. Freakin love it

[pepplemint]

I don't know for sure how many of these are actual parallels and which I just made up but

Here's a list of all biblical references I remember in Trigun Maximum

Vash & Knives acquiring "forbidden knowledge" and bringing the literal downfall of humanity (Adam & Eve eating the forbidden fruit of knowledge and getting thrown out of Eden)

The plants being created by humans (God creating humans in his own image)

The plants virgin births (The Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus)

The dependents being referred to as "angels" and having wings and body horror (the most typical depiction of biblical angels and the more biblical depiction of angels)

Wolfwood carrying a giant cross (Jesus carrying his own death sentence)

Vash forever wandering from place to place unable to make a home after shooting Knives and Knives cutting his arm off (Cain being sentenced to forever wander the desert, unable to settle down or grow anything after spilling his brother's blood, but unable to be killed)

The Eye of Michael (Archangel Michael, the right hand of God and leader of God's people in the endtime battle between heaven and hell)

Wolfwood's first name being Nicholas (Nicholatians (followers of Nicholas) being pointed to as a heretical christian cult with morals Jesus hates)

The Seven Cities, two of which had Vash angel-out on them (The Five Cities of the plains - Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, and Bela - Sodom & Gomorrah famously destroyed by two angels for their sins. Also seven is a reoccurring number in biblical contexts)

The independent plants created as a bridge between humanity and plants, created by plants but raised by a human mother (Jesus as half divine/half human)

Vash's unhuman levels of forgiveness (Jeezy boy taking on the sins of mankind through his suffering)

12 Gung Ho Guns (12 Disciples of Jesus.)

The Gung Ho Guns coins that Vash has to collect. Legato accepting these coins as "payment" for turning off his powers, which lets Vash win (Judas giving Jesus up for 30 silver coins, the price of a slave.)

Elendira fighting with nails (Jesus being nailed to the cross rather than tied which was custom)

Legato being "found" chained to a forked cross (Y-shaped) (Symbolic cross seen in the middle ages generally representing the Tree of Knowledge)

Legato having a weird long tongue, as well as having his back broken and being confined to a metal brace/coffin (The serpent's punishment for the involvement in tricking Eve to eat the apple is losing its legs, and being thereafter forever an enemy of mankind)

Knives ship where he brings all the saved plants being called "The Ark" (Noah building an ark (large boat) and housing a pair of every animal on it as God sends a flood over the earth, drowning all the sinners, only the people and animals on the ark being left alive)

Knives getting all the dependent plants that are largely being abused by humans in an attempt to bring them all to a new promised land, bringing out revenge on those that oppose them (Moses bringing the oppressed israelites out of Egypt, "and the Lord said: But I know that the king of Egypt will not let you go unless a mighty hand compels him. So I will stretch out my hand and strike the Egyptians with all the wonders that I will perform among them.")

The large plant-monster/Knives looking from below as a serpent/dragon (Satan being equaled to the serpent in Revelations talking about the end times and final battle)

The bottle of "The Bride" Wolfwood brings out before his death (Jesus referred to as a groom and the church/priests as his bride)

Vash promising Meryl that he will be back walking into what looks like a suicide mission (Jesus telling his followers that he will come back from death)

Meryl & Milly as reporters following Vash (The Prophets and their job of spreading the word of Jesus/the lord)

The appletree (the symbol of Eden)

Quotes that could be inspired by the bible:

Vash saying "we should never have been born" (Job, God's specialest little boy, curses his birth as misery befalls him, Job 3:1)

Elendira comparing humanity to maggots (Job 25:5-6 "The stars are not pure in his eyes, how much less a mortal, who is but a maggot? A human being, which is a worm!")

[myremnantarmy]

"𝘞𝘩𝘰 𝘪𝘴 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘎𝘰𝘥? 𝘕𝘰 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘪𝘴!"

[quietwingsinthesky]

I don't actually like samifer as a non con ship & sabriel could be so much cooler if the fandom explored them in like a fucked up way. like gabriel forgot how to be an angel and is more pagan than anything when he first appears. that could be explored a lot more than it is !!

That’s absolutely reasonable, anon. No one should have to engage in any ship (or any kind of fandom stuff) through only one specific interpretation, even if that’s the dominant view of it (which, I think in spn fandom, non-con samifer is what people default to) and especially not if it’s something that makes you uncomfortable or hell, even if it’s just not interesting to you.

(I like non-con, dubcon, and completely consensual samifer lmao, they have the range, but if you’re just here for the consensual smooching, that’s totally valid. Remind me to hit you up when I finish this next fic cause it’s going to be all about that. And sub!lucifer. Sorry I’m rambling.)

And as for fucked up sabriel, god yes!!! Yes!!! They should be messy!!! Gabriel literally tortured him and fucked with his head and also was pulling a similar thing to lucifer where he was trying to make the transition into Sam being Lucifer’s vessel less painful (for Sam but also for Gabriel himself as the endtimes/when he’ll lose his brother (or arguably both, since there’s no way Michael would be Okay and Normal after killing lucifer) forever) with the whole ‘get used to playing your roles’ thing in Changing Channels and he does sacrifice his life to save Sam/try to stop Lucifer in Hammer of the Gods!!!

Like!!! They’re complex!!! They have layers!!! Messy messy layers!!! Gabriel has tortured him, Gabriel has tried to help him. Sam’s been praying to angels his whole life and the first one he ever met had no interest in giving him salvation. Gabriel’s the kind of thing Sam kills on a weekly basis, would probably have succeeded in killing if Gabriel didn’t have his Get Out Of Jail Free card of ‘can only be killed via archangel blade’. And doesn’t that just make the power dynamics even crazier.

Anyway. For your perusal. Alternate post-s5 au where Gabriel survived where he pulls Sam’s soul out of the cage sure but. He’s still upset. Doesn’t want to think about it and definitely doesn’t want to confront the fact that he gave the Winchesters the whole ring plan, so Michael & Lucifer getting locked up in Hell, there being no end, no peace, no real closure for anyone, is technically his fault. So uh. He does save Sam from hell. But he’s mad. So he turns Sam into a hamster and keeps him in a little hamster cage.

Is this a lesson? I mean, he says so. (But let’s be real, he’s just taking out his frustration on Sam because Sam’s an available, vaguely Lucifer-shaped target who he can shift the blame onto for this whole mess.) (also, hamster!sam is still smart as hell and escapes the cage and starts plotting against Gabriel/to find ways to become human again.)

Wow okay sorry this was so long. Love u anon.

[kaypeace21]

Mike comes out  to El , Mileven breaks up for good, and the future of byler (s4 theory)

*this is based off the stranger things movie inspirations they listed on twitter , in the show, or in interviews/other outside materials. All movies mentioned have been said to be inspo for the show.

So I’ll be mentioning mostly the movies- sw*ngers, what women want, wet hot american summer and splash (and others). Along with Tootsie -which was shown in s4 bts.

Before I give a rough outline of what may happen. I have to specify I don’t think El will be “heartbroken” over mileven cause I don’t think she loves Mike romantically . I’ve already discussed why i think she doesn’t love him romantically at nauseam - but regardless  mileven brings out the worst in  El and Mike. And literally inhibits her character growth. So as an El fan- I’m super excited for mileven to be put to rest. SORRY.  I’ll trade El & Kali teaming up to get closure from their ab*ser ...over mileven any day of the week XD. 

I think Mileven broke up in s3 (and remained broken up) . But we’ll have more closure and a more official breakup in s4  when Mike visits the byers. (And Mike admits he’s gay to his ex )- before byler officially begins. Essentially, I think- Mileven broke up, but El still calls constantly .And Mike starts ignoring her calls so El demands an explanation and he admits to her he’s gay and doesn’t want to get back together. 

So first lets talk about Phone calls 

I think based off the movies and s3 we’ll see El call quite a bit in s4 (almost obsessively) . And Mike has had enough. In s3, he said he’ll call so often -she’ll have to turn her walkie off . But I believe it’ll be the opposite-with El calling so much he’ll turn it off.

We see foreshadowing for this in s3 when Mike hangs up the phone after saying “El ? no, sorry, not interested.” Or when he hangs up on her multiple other times that season ( he even technically hung up the walkie on her in s2 , as well ). But, in defense of El,  given her lack of socialization (and seeing mike call her constantly between s1-2 I wouldn’t be surprised if she thought this was the norm).

-In splash there’s a scene similar to s3 - a blond relative picks up another phone to eavesdrop on him talking to his gf. He yells at the blonde relative and when the gf asks if he loves her -he tries to dodge the question. But they break up and he admits to his relative he never loved her. Maybe confessing to Karen?

* This reminds me of that supposed rumor with El saying “I love you” and Mike not into El just saying “I know” in return.Or Mike in s3 saying quickly “i miss you-bye.” And immediately hanging up on her.

-some other aspects of the s3 breakup may be taken from  “pineapple express .Which had comedic breakups via phone  . When broken-up he says  “I love you “ and she says it back to him (like mileven). He IMMEDIATELY  says he takes it back and  “I made a mistake” (when he sees she took him seriously). And then he specifies that’s it’s because she’s must be too “  naive and immature” to willing to take him back after how horrible of a bf he was to her in the past. Which yeah -fits mileven: they said the ‘L word’ when broken up, Mike did immediately try to take it back , and he may have realized at the s3 finalie how naive el was -to still want him back despite him not being a good bf to her. In ‘p.i’ the girl’s mom even says  maybe it’s best she find someone new who actually appreciated her or ‘better yet just be single’ and hang out with her gal pals (lol if joyce gave this advice to El-that’d be great)!  El doesn’t need romance to be her own-happy person! Also in ‘p.i’ Dale + his male bff are always assumed to be gay for eachother as a running gag .So ... I’ll technically throw that as another byler hint- lol.

-In sw*ngers Michael (yes that’s his name) who is made fun of for being perceived as gay gets a call from his ex gf of 6 months). And he hangs up on her to talk to his other love interest who asks if he wants to see her. Michael (specifically hangs up on his ex as she says “I lo-” to talk to this new love interest. He later brags to his friend (at a dinner) about not calling her back (despite her wanting to get back together) and he says proudly she was “always his ex”- when his friend incorrectly calls her his “gf” . 

  -While in ‘what women want’- an ex gf goes to him cause he didn’t answer her calls. In ‘tootsie’ the gf does the same and is pissed that her bf Michael (yes, yet another michael) didn’t answer her calls for a week. And he LIES saying his answering machine was broken. Would not be surprised if mike made up such an excuse.

Similar to ‘tootise’  & in ‘what women want’-both gals who’s phone calls were ignored ask if their bf (in mileven’s case -ex bf ) is gay. And in ‘swingers’ someone makes fun of mike for being gay. too  Lol-i’m sorry 2 movies where a guy named Mike is called out for being gay /and 2 movies where a gf who’s phone calls are ignored asks is they’re bf is gay is suspish XD

In ‘tootsie’.  We also have movie-mike give her a present before she asks if he’s gay /they breakup -it echos what previously happened in s3. 

- Michael (from the film) despite not want to be with her anymore (and loving someone else) tries giving her a gift to patch things up - despite his lying/ignoring her. The gift /empty gesture annoys her. Which is similar to st- mike not apologizing for lying- but trying to give El a gift to make up with her (but he doesn’t even do as much as film-Mike).

Right after this is when she asks if he’s gay (aka so for mileven we have the gift scene for s3  & El asking if he’s gay in s4-which were both borrowed from ‘tootsie’).

In ‘tootsie’, she finds romantic letters Michael has from another guy and this causes her to ask him if he’s gay .(20+ movies have romantic letters). In ‘littlewomen’ the artist gal and her future husband (who used to have a crush on the painter’s sis) exchange letters.And in ‘wet hot american summer’- a guy ditched his friends to write a letter (and his friends make a gay joke about him because of his letter writing-not knowing he’s actually gay.  

In ‘what women want’ when confronted- he admits he’s gay to his ex gf. In ‘tootsie’ she asks if he’s gay and he avoids the question but after she demands that he be “truthful for once in your life”. And, we all know how Mike constantly “lied” to EL .michael finally says he’ll stop lying to her and admits he’s in love with someone else. 

And she says in turn she’s not angry he doesn’t love her but that he lied (and similar to s2 where Mike calls Hopper a “liar”. The ex gf calls movie-mike a “liar” over and over). In fact they use the identical phrase of “you liar. you liar.”

Not to mention- she does sound like El.  She says she’s more upset about the lying than the fact movie-mike doesn’t love her. 

But I do think they eventually get closure and El realizes she doesn’t love Mike (romantically either) before her real character/story arc begins. 

movies: twister & you got mail

I’m so ready for the El & Kali teamup in s4. It’s like s2 (we get El & Kali pursuing Brenner + byler moments).

But what happens before Mike says this?I assume before this -mike & Will may confide in others about their feelings. And Mike/Will may be bullied for being perceived as gay .

 -In “welcome to the dollhouse” a boy is bullied for being seen as gay in school & at an arcade- and a character who is made fun for being a lesbian defends him at school/the arcade (so maybe robin?)Since Robin works next to the arcade/is gay.  Similarly, Fin’s character (at an arcade) is bullied and called a “fairy” and f*g” in ‘It 2′. And movie-Mike is made fun of for being perceived as gay in ‘sw*ngers’. Along with the guy (who was gay) being called homophobic names for writing letters (in wet hot american summer).We also know hawkins will most likely have a ‘satanic panic’ over d&d, rock music, and other things- which was historically rooted in christian fundamentalism.In ‘Kingsmen’ the churchgoers pretty much go on a rant being hom*phobic, r*cist, anti-science, anti-athe*st, anti-other religions, and anti-democrat and equate all of these groups of people to the endtimes/the anti christ. So one guy just snaps and says he’s gay, loves science , etc and says after “so... hail satan .And have a lovely day.”And storms out.  lol not sure about all that -but it’d be hilarious XD. Trigger warning for hom*phobic sl*rs.

-Proof For Will was : In ‘heathers’ the jocks make fun of the new guy in the cafeteria- by asking him if he misses his boyfriend  and call him the f-sl*r .in ‘superbad’ the guy who draws is called hom*phobic sl*rs and in ‘wedding crashers’ someone calls the male-painter character a “homo”. In “hackers” the (computer-nerd) who just moved to town is asked by his single mom if he “likes girls”.etc

 Also, in “The guest” a computer-nerd in highschool is bullied for being perceived as gay (and he’s given really bad advice about how to deal with it by a lonnie-esque character who is visiting his house/family for a while).  The advice is also similar to the advice given in the st comic (from Troy’s dad).

Honestly just the fire ref makes me nervous. The computer-boy eventually snaps (after never standing up for himself) and beats up his homophobic bullies.

*whenever Lonnie comes back - I assume we’ll see he’s a bad influence on Will pretty quickly

In ‘the guest’ they also made a joke that the clearly older guest must be the gay highschoolers’ boyfriend (which is not the case).

While In ‘stoker’ ,the highschool painter eventually loses it after dealing with constant harrassment- and stabs the bully’s hand (to block a punch coming their way) after the bully made an inc*st joke about the painter & the family guest.  So a joke like that could certainly cause Will to finally snap (as opposed to the other gay jokes they used earlier). In ‘dukes of hazzard’ a guy also snapped and got into a fight over a inc*st joke (and in ‘girl interrupted” they make a similar messed up inc*st joke).

 Given my theory on Will’s trauma with his dad (which he doesn’t remember)-I would not be surprised even on a subconscious level such a comment finally gets him to snap -maybe accidentally unleash his powers for the first time?Lonnie could say something about how Will should light his bullies on fire, they make a triggering joke about Lonnie &himself... and Will the wise does have fire powers after all. In the film ‘firestarter’ the kid who couldn’t control their fire abilities also lights a bully on fire accidentally so... maybe? In ‘skyhigh’ Will’s superpowers aren’t revealed until he accidentally unleashes them on a bully in the lunchroom. And 1 character in that scene says “don’t talk about my dad” before using his fire powers. Also... it’s not on the inspo list technically but the Duffers are known avengers/xmen fans.So Will could be based on scarlet witch’s son William (code name Wiccan) - he’s gay ,has lightning&fire powers and can alter reality. He’s been possessed In the past by the ‘demiurge’ - even spit up a slug too. He opens a portal to his world allowing the inter dimensional monster “mama” out (cough demogorgans are called “deep father”.)  And he’s constantly bullied for being gay- and the 1 time he finally decides to stand up to his h*mophobic bullies- is the day his powers activate for the first time and almost k*ll the bully. Not super confident in this theory but thought I’d mention it just in case.  Ok- this post is supposed to not be too plot heavy. So back to byler-

*Before Mike visits they may both confide in people about their feelings for the other . in skyhigh (at a dinner similar to the convo in sw*ngers where Mike talks about his ex gf) the bff of Will (yes his name) goes on and on about Will and how she’s known him since the first grade. And someone asks “so you’ve been in love with Will since the 1st grade?” Which she tries denying but quickly admits is true. And her friend says she should confess to Will.

In fisher king - a women who works at a videostore tries setting up 2 people- a gal-writer and a guy with an alternate personality/ who hallucinates a fearsome mythical creature (obviously Will). When people doubt the idea the girl can love this mentally ill guy  she says “stranger things have been known to happen.” And in “altered states” the guy who would hallucinate flashing to another hell dimension (like Will)- has a wife. And people say “she’s crazy about him and he’s crazy.” When they weren’t together she says to her friend she had to pretend anyone she dated was him and she says “it’s crazy” in response the friend says “i think that’s how it’s supposed to be.” Plus in fisherking one character wrote a book dedicated to his wife (which had the same title as the movie they’re in) . And someone says about this author “ he was crazy about her” as he holds the novel in his hands.

* The ‘pretending the person you’re dating is someone you’re actually in love with’ was also mentioned in ‘children of paradise’ (reffed by Robin in s3).

*I’ve also talked about Mike projecting his feelings for Will to El-here.

Will confiding in someone is harder to say. in ‘reality bites’ when asking about why she doesn’t want to be involved in romance a friend asks “because of Michael?” Which she first denies but later admits is part of the reason. 

 And in ‘hellboy’, (while taking pics) John Myers tells the fire wielding character (with mental health issues) that her bff is in love with her and asks how she feels . The 2 bffs are endgame but at first she tells John that she’s unsure because she’s known him practically her whole life (but she thinks of him everyday). 

Lol not sure if Jonathan would ever be so straight forward but it’d be nice callback to s1/2 convos they had (Jon saying in s1 to not like things cause you’re supposed to / saying being a “freak” like queer david bowie is cool) .In “twister” & “it’s a wonderful life” a family member also tells a character that their childhood friend that they’re in love with (isn’t into the person they’re currently with). In ‘ wonderful life’ she says they’re “not crazy” about the other person-but them.  And they say they know this cause they “have eyes.” And In “twister” the family member says them visiting them  is proof they love them. 

*plus Sam who is supposedly crazy about her (also isn’t crazy about marry). Aka El isn’t crazy about Mike- but Will assumes she (along with mike). Cough El saying “what makes you crazy?” in s3.

-While in “hackers’ the kid (with a single mom) who is into computers, and upset they were forced to moved to a new city -is asked by the mom “Do you like girls?” . And he angrily denies and says he’s ‘not gay’ (which could followthrough with what happened in s3- Will not opening up to her about romance, like him telling Joyce he’d never fall in love. so he may lie to her if asked that question? Unlike Jon?

 So it’s possible Will confides in Jonathan (and or Joyce) & maybe Mike to his mom/nancy?/a friend (maybe Robin or Max) (hard to say). My top guesses are Will &Jon. And Mike with Robin (and maybe his mom or sister a bit after Robin?)

Mike visiting the Byers

In ‘Tootsie’, michael (disguised as a woman named dorothy...long story XD) meets up with the person he really loves and gives them a present. The 2 low-key have like a psuedo-gay courting for most of the movie (before they get together). In ‘paddington 2′, the main character even gets multiple jobs to save up for a birthday present for a loved one (another contrast to mileven- who Mike,despite being rich couldn’t even spend $3.50 on.  They did that alot -show contrasts with both ships .So s4 would be no different.And It’s Will’s b-day in s4 after all so Mike getting Will a present makes the most sense. 

*last pics from ‘scarface’- I have no idea what he’d get Will for his b-day but if it’s engraved with “crazy together” I will lose my mind. Also the parent glaring during this scene-makes me suspect Lonnie . I do suspect Lonnie will sabotage byler-but it may end up being a s5 plotpoint instead of s4? (I guess in s4 it could be El-since el has been known to get very jealous in the past (like with max).

 - In ‘waynes’ world’ the ex gf refused to accept the breakup initially (despite it being months ago).  And she didn’t understand how breakups worked . Which given El’s lack of socialization -  I get her confusion on the concept. Like how in s3 Max had to correct El that Mike was her “ex boyfriend”. In the film, she even tried giving him a present for their ‘anniversary’ (hopefully El doesn’t try to do something like that out of jealousy of the prior gift giving -cause Wayne just says the gift shows how little she knows him). 

*You have to admit this scenario of Mike having to explain breakups isn’t that far-fetched.

(even when broken up with wayne- she wore a necklace with his name on it. ) Which reminds me of How El had a bunch of Mike related stuff in her room-including things that said “mike” on them.

in waynes’ world: The ex gf would follow her ex and still refer to him as her bf and be a 3rd wheel and interrupt every attempt for wayne to romantically confess to his new love interest (like in ‘dumb and dumber’/’high fidelity ‘).A similar scenario also happens in ‘tootsie’- Michael (as dorothy) almost confesses (on a swing set) but is interrupted by another person interested in him (Mike). Personally, I assume El would just do this unintentionally- assuming Mike wants to be with her and being a bit pushy but probably being oblivious of byler.

Not to mention the Duffers are petty AF and probably got annoyed with all the jokes that Will was a 3rd wheel to mileven- when literally Will wasn’t even around the 2 interacting alone . A 3rd wheel- has a group of 3 consisting of a couple and a third superfluous person. Which never really happened? Plus,we saw the ‘burns’ they did of mileven over the past 3 seasons- it’ll probably get worse.

And again we already know El had no qualms spying on her ex (mileven even dances to ‘every breath you take’  a song about a stalking ex gf).And El also watched the  ‘all my children’ ep with Erica & mike roy. Which in the show after their breakup - had 1 of them refuse to accept the other didn’t love them and want to get back together- and stalk them/ sabotage their exe’s romantic pursuits. Only to eventually accept reality and move on. Although, I think this is mostly un-intentional on El’s part.

In ‘clueless’ she flirted with a gay guy who she thought was straight/in love with her and kept trying to make a move-much to his discomfort . And in ‘birdcage’ the ex gf would hit on her gay ex bf- and his male partner catches the 2 and misinterprets it as not one sided ). That scenario happens in quite a few movies. I could see Will (before byler happens/mike tells el the truth ) misinterpreting and assuming mike and El are still romantically connected or will get back together .

New Swings scene (almost confession)/possible swing-flashback 

Ok back to (tootsie) .In the film,Michael’s love interest was raised by an older sibling- and he even tries to confess to her when they’re on a bench swing together . Not even the only movie with a gay gal character + gal bestfriend swinging on a bench together (’silkwood’ ). In ‘enter the void’ there was also a flashback of a little kid asking the other “do you love me?”/ and him saying “a lot” .  

* it’s like a subversion of what happened in s3 at the hospital. Also like the Wayne’s world scene of the ex gf interrupting...

But i don’t think El will be the only one trying to get mileven back together. But Will as well.In ‘Emma’ & ‘clueless ‘ :character A assumes her guy friend is into their mutual friend and tries to get them together (despite him being into character A only). I could see Will misinterpreting mileven and trying to be a good friend and get them back together (despite his own feelings). In ‘emma’ and ‘clueless’ (before they fight) there’s is a party/dance (it’s in a lot of movies).It’s possible mike, Will, and El go somewhere to dance - a lot of films have the 2 people in love-dance with others -but stare at eachother the entire time.In ‘clueless’ 2 gay guys and cher (who is flirting with one of the gay guys) all dance together. In karate kid, referenced by Max to El. Has a guy kiss his ex without her permission (on the dance floor)- and the karate kid sees the girl he likes being kissed by her ex and misinterprets the scenario (assuming they’re back together). I suppose the fact they changed the s2 script where Will was watching Mike dance with El may come back up in a later season? Could also be a callback to when Mike looked mopey at Will dancing with a girl (after encouraging him to dance with her).  Will could do the same (as mike in s2). Or they both stare at eachother while dancing with other people. or it’s just a concept they scrapped- it’s hard to say.

*movie list (truman show,16 candles,step up 2,karate kid, backdraft 2 & stormship troopers)

Confession & fall out

In ‘emma’ & ‘clueless’: character A (after the dance party) goes with the guy home and he tries kissing her . She dodges it confused saying he’s mistaking her for her friend! And he explains he was never romantically interested in her friend. In ‘emma’ he even bought her a super expensive gift before hand and she still assumed he was into her friend not her. And he even specifies in Emma- the reason he came to visit her house was for her (not her friend). A similar scenario happens in ‘weird science’ and he says she just thought of the gal he used to be infatuated with  as a “sister” (and we all know the sibling parallels in mileven). And in ‘little women’- the artist gal dodges a kiss and says to her love interest “I won’t be courted with someone in love with my sister.” And he explains exasperated he doesn’t love her sister- despite constantly trying to be with her sister previously.

 In ‘tootsie’, what caused Mike (dressed as Dorothy) to try and kiss her was-  the other gal saying she feel like she wants something she can’t have and because of that -their friendship makes her feel lonely (it’s very queer coded dialogue). She dodged mike/dorothy’s kiss but then says she has the same (gay) “impulses” as Dorothy but that she’s not mentally sound enough to be in a relationship.  A thought that may cross Will’s mind.

But, before they can talk about the almost kiss-her dad calls via phone and interrupts. (They eventually do get together though). But she tells Mike/Dorothy she ‘can’t love’ her,before this. 

*may not come across in photos-but she’s crying when sayin this.

Also, a fight about “what they are-friends/or romantic” before a phone call interrupts ( happens in ‘it’s a wonderful life’ and ‘the fisher king’ too.) Those pairings were also both endgame. In wonderful life the artist gal yells why he even came to visit her . And he implies she knows why (aka his romantic feelings) .There’s a similar convo in ‘fisher king’  (asking why they’re there) + 1 of them saying it’s “bullshit” and “stupid” to pretend they’re ‘just friends’. (We all know the context of the phrases “bullshit’ and “stupid” by now). Even Han implies Leia wants him to stay cause he has feelings for him-which she denies . Thus, irritating him.

*(I’ve already mentioned before how in s1 byler was paralleled to a gay Han/leia while mileven was directly paralleled to luke/leia-mentioned this in the ‘mileven burn’ hyperlink).

All 3 movies have eventual couples arguing cause 1 character (mike) is saying he’s done pretending to be just friends and he came to visit (Will) for that reason. And he knows Will returns those romantic feelings- but Will refuses to stop the charade and admit his true feelings.

In ‘good Will hunting” a similar event happens. Will (yes that’s his name) is poor and has severe trust /psych issues caused by his ab*sive dad.  And he has “abandonment issues” so sabotages his romantic relationships before they can even begin. When the brunette admits her feelings for him he dismisses it as a phase/confusion on her part. She in response says she knows he finds the idea she doesn’t love him ‘scary’ (and she’s scared too but at least she’s trying and being honest about her feelings). She also says she wants to “help him” with his issues -but this just angers him more. Cause he doesn’t liked being pitied/treated like he’s broken . She says she wants to help because she loves him- not pity. But he doesn’t believe her romantic confession. And every time she says she loves him he yells “Don’t BULLSHIT ME”! So when she yells “say you don’t love me?” He says he doesn’t love her- which the audience knows is a lie. But she’s left a sobbing mess alone on the floor.

Which yikes- I feel like even if you don’t understand the obvious reasons  Mike used El as a beard + lied saying he loved her. You’ll feel bad at the possibility of how badly it blows up in his face. Will not believing his confession/thinking Mike loves El or scared he’ll change his mind -so Will (for that + a myriad of other reasons)just rejects Mike COLD. Similar to clueless & Emma & empire strikes back.

I’m not that surprised since Will claimed he’d never fall in love (so when he does - he may just deny it). Like the therapist said in ‘good will hunting’ he’s afraid it’ll go wrong so never even tries to begin a romance.  I hypothesize a lot of stuff happens after this, that makes getting closure on their relationship in s4 difficult. 

So essentially to summarize a rough idea of what may happen: mileven stayed broken up. Mike and Will probably exchange letters between seasons. And El and Mike call eachother- but the excess of calls becomes too much. Mike and Will  are probably bullied for being perceived as gay- and before meeting up they may or may not confide in someone (about their mutual feelings). Mike visits for Will’s b-day/spring break and gives Will a present. El (because she sees Mike as a source of comfort) tries getting back together with him and becomes pushy and a 3rd wheel. While Will even helps El- thinking he’s being a good friend to Mike (by trying to get them back together). Mike eventually comes clean and come to an understanding and El goes on her plot/character driven arc of trying to find Brenner with Kali.  Mike eventually confesses to Will but Will for a myriad of reasons lies about loving Mike- and rejects him. And that’s all the (non supernatural) plot stuff I wan’t to talk about now...

Sorry, if this post was just hard to understand. I wouldn’t call this a ‘theory’ per say ( I usually feel more confident in those). This is more like a rough idea given what we have available to analyze so far.

Personally - I hated the mileven/couple breakup drama in s3. So as long as it doesn’t last long and most breakups like say-lumax and jancy happen early in the season... and don’t drag the actual supernatural plot/character developement . I’ll be fine.

 Contrary to popular belief- I’m a byler shipper who’s most excited for the actual plot. I’m a bit more confident in my plot theories than the exact details in this post . But I thought I’d share XD. I’ll eventually do a whole s4/5 theory- post which will focus on other characters/supernatural plot points.(but i may rewatch some movies first) . I’ll probably also do a byler post too with s5 predictions (which connects more heavily to important plot points spanning across s4-5). 

Happy belated new year :)

I expect so much hate from this XD

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