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vynegar · 3 years

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a few tears of themis fan theories: lilies, Svart, and giann

gonna post some interesting fan theories/speculation i saw on bilibili.

this post may contain spoilers for main story up to ch 5, vyn’s medieval suspense and brewing thoughts SSRs, and info about marius’s family (from his RRG and xmas SSRs, and probably also his personal story).

First, a comment on a video of the card story for Vyn’s RRG card, Brewing Thoughts (I’m translating the card, the most important part for this theory is part four where Vyn talks about his family’s history with the Svart church)

借个楼。整理了一宿线索发现在简遇和pv里被烧掉的那张照片中都出现了百合花，而在危情邀约中出现过教会的圣物就是百合花，所以海奥森幕后的大boss可能是教会。聂秋背叛了NXX，陆景瀚被海奥森捉去当试验品了，可能是因为原宁的病。亚宁可能在斯沃尔特有研究场所，用来研究NXX 和X03A，夏彦卷入的跨过案件可能与斯沃尔特有关。感觉以后四个男主都有刀..

Gonna borrow this post. I was organizing clues and realized that lilies appear with both Jerome and that picture that burned up in the PV, and in Medieval Suspense, lilies were the sacred flower of the church, so the big boss behind Heirson might be the church. Neil betrayed NXX, Giann was taken by Heirson as a test subject, possibly because of his mother’s illness. Crimson Biotech might have a research center in Svart used for researching NXX and X03A, the international case that Luke got involved in might be related to Svart. I feel like there’s angst in all four boys’ futures...

I’m going to try to go through each major point they bring up (part explanation, part opinion).

Jerome was that suspicious research scientist at the start of ch 5, and this post is pointing out that lilies appear to be the company’s logo, based on their lab coats and the design on the building.

An image from this bilibili post (gathering clues up to main story ch 5; warning that the post is very long and image-heavy) shows screenshots of the logo and the photo from the "Ends of the Scale" Trailer/PV (I’ll come back to discuss the photo more later).

In Medieval Suspense, Vyn said that he had actually experienced very similar events to what happened in the murder mystery. In Brewing Thoughts, we learn that , like in the story, his parents’ union was forbidden by the Svart church, his father was unable to cope with his mother’s departure, and the church’s opposition to science and change all contributed to Vyn leaving Svart.

(btw, that bilibili post was made in august 2020 and correctly guessed vyn’s relation to duke haspran)

My gut reaction was doubt towards the idea that the science-hating church might be working with Heirson on biochemical products, but X03A/NXX being used in pursuit of “eternal youth” DOES feel similar to the Duke in Medieval Suspense trying to revive the dead via alchemy rituals; both of them trying to defy the natural world through extreme means. The Duke wouldn’t really be aligned with the church, since the Vatican killed his lover, but it still adds another connection between the sinister research group/s and the story from Medieval Suspense.

Neil is stated in the main story to be suspected of betraying NXX and playing a role in Giann’s abduction.

In Marius’s xmas card, he says that his (and Giann’s) mother had an illness that worsened in the process of carrying/giving birth to Marius. (There may be more details in the personal story, but I haven’t read it yet.). I’m not sure if there’s more “evidence” on the part about Giann but i really like the thought of this motive since it’s so angsty lol.

The BDL entry for Crimson Biotech says “Since the middle of the last century, the Cromwell family has been gradually shifting its business focus abroad and its influence overseas is no less than that of the world's largest multinational group, the Pax Group.“

And the BDL entry for the Kingdom of Svart says “It has a stable political environment, an affluent society, as well as well-developed aviation, telecommunications, and pharmaceutical industry. Most multinational companies have a presence here, making Svart a hub of international trade.”

So yeah, I definitely like this part of the theory that pins Svart as the location for two international incidents; we keep hearing about large, international powers, and Svart is the only other major country that really gets focus, and it hasn’t shown up much yet in the main story. It makes a lot of narrative sense as a way to tie all the boys’ plots together.

Also, back to the photo: that long bilibili post also guesses that the man in the photo is Giann von Hagen.

Left: comparison between the photo and Giann’s silhouette; there’s not much to work with, but it’s certainly possible; the hair in particular is similar.

Right: a formal posture in both the man in the photo and in Vincent, possibly indicating that this is Giann’s servant.

Here’s a slightly larger silhouette of Giann from Marius’s RRG card, and the hairstyle does indeed look similar...

...I’m convinced.

#tears of themis #marius von hagen #vyn richter #luke pearce #artem wing #giann von hagen #lu jinghe #mo yi #xia yan #zuo ran #tot translation

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drwcn · 4 years

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清河聂氏 | Qinghe Nie Sect

聂赫秋 → Nie Heqiu 蓝嘉弥 → Lan Jiami (First Lady) 蓝晙弥 → Lan Junmi (Second Lady)

※ cql pre-generation fancast/name. Series: [ Lanling Jin ] [Qishan Wen]

#cql #the untamed #fytheuntamed #qinghe nie #oc: nie heqiu #oc: lan jiami #oc: lan junmi #yes the madams nie are both lans and yes they're sisters #i thought for the longest time this was canon but turned out this is fanon #welps #it is what it is i guess #it's like if Aannngelicaaaa and Eliiiizaaaa told each other they were both in love with Alexander Hamilton #and if they lived in ancient china where this is common practice #this answers the question where did all the Lan women go?#they all married Nie men bc the Unclean Realm lets them do whatever they want and Lan women definitely all know how to kick ass #lets be real #cql visuals #pre cql au #pre cql fancast

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freesoar · 10 years

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十大元帅娶妻次数，长见识了！

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一、朱德拥有六任妻子

朱德的青少年时代，还是清朝。1905年参加了最后一次府试后，朱德在家乡四川仪陇，由长辈做主，娶了比他大两岁的表姐刘氏为妻。建国后朱德要接刘氏去北京养老，刘奶奶摇头不去，1958年病逝，享年74岁。 1912年秋，26岁的滇军少校朱德，娶了昆明师院的18岁女学生萧菊芳，据说是朋友的妹妹，萧家曾经恩助过求学时代的朱德。但1917年初，萧菊芳不幸染疾，辗转病榻，到1919年不治而逝。

看到朱德受病妻幼子拖累，其部属陈平辉便给他介绍了自己21岁的堂妹，名叫陈玉珍(贞) 。南昌起义后，朱德一度听说陈玉珍被四川军阀杀害了。其实陈玉珍一直活到1967年，

朱德的生母和嗣母都是陈玉珍奉养送终的。

朱德出川后，由周恩来介绍入党，赴欧洲留学，又转到苏联。陪他出国的是一位19岁的能说英语德语的漂亮姑娘、四川开江女中教员贺治华。他们从德国到了莫斯科中山大学后，贺治华于1926年生下女儿朱敏。但二人因志趣不合很快分手，朱敏回国后一生未再见过母亲。

就在贺治华背叛革命的1928年春，朱德率革命军攻下湖南耒阳，娶了活泼健美的当地女秀才、24岁的共产党员伍若兰。二人刚过蜜月，朱毛会师井冈山。不幸次年井冈山第三次反围剿时，为掩护朱德突围，已经怀孕几个月的伍若兰被蒋介石亲发电报“割头示众”。朱德闻讯后，在毛泽东面前洒下了热泪。

1929年，43岁的朱德军长在井冈山，与17岁的江西姑娘、红军女战士康克清喜结连理。这一次婚姻延续了47载，称得上是“准金婚”。

二、彭德怀结过两次婚

1922年，在亲友撮合下，24岁的湘军军官彭德怀，娶了尚不满12周岁的货郎之女刘细妹，给她改名刘坤模——“女中模范”之意，让她放足，还教她读书写字。1928年平江起义时，彭德怀让她回家，答应革命胜利后去接她，不料从此失去联系。刘坤模以“匪属”之身，漂泊辗转，历尽艰辛，走投无路之下，由陶铸的母亲搭线，在汉口另嫁他人，生有一女。

1938年双十节， 40岁的八路军副总司令彭德怀，在延安娶了北师大著名的浦氏三姐妹 (洁修、熙修、安修)中的小妹、20岁的嘉定姑娘浦安修(1918-1991)，婚后无子女。1959年，彭德怀在政治郁闷中曾对秘书说:“我现在很思念刘坤模同志！”此言颇值回味。

三、林彪曾有两任妻子

林彪是十大元帅中争议最多的人物，爱之者崇拜为天神，贬之者骂他是欺世盗名。1937年，林彪在延安娶了陕北姑娘张梅，生女林晓琳。张梅是延川人，号称“陕北一枝花”，因为还不到20岁，活泼好动，与木讷深沉的林彪格格不入。后林彪负伤去苏联治疗，二人情冷缘断，终于离异。

林彪20多岁就成了名闻天下的常胜将军，30多岁就成为进步青年的偶像，恋他追他的美女很多。当后来林彪重病躺在担架上，从昏迷中睁开眼睛，看见美丽的福建女郎叶群，手持短枪，护卫在旁，他确认，这个女人，才是他生命中的“另一半”。叶群小林彪8岁。毕业于北师大附中，曾是电台播音员，夺过演讲大赛的状元，可谓“声色俱佳”，号称延安八大美女之一。

林彪在叶群生日所赠的手书:“发不同青心同热，生不同衾死同穴”中的“蝶双飞”，不但表达了一种绝俗的情爱观，而且还当真以绝俗的方式实现了。叶群回赠曰:“教诲恩情永不忘，他年定随到黄泉。”如今读来，令人唏嘘。

四、贺龙拥有五任妻子

贺老总是湘西桑植人，论血统属于白族。他出身草莽，少年时就加盟马帮。10岁那年，娶了17岁的童养媳徐月姑，后来圆房，生女贺金莲。若干年后，徐月姑病逝。

1920年，贺龙父亲被土匪截杀，弟弟被蒸死，族里按照桑植风俗，要在丧事期间给贺龙续娶，以期生子，谓之“丧婚”。这样贺龙就娶了土家族姑娘向元姑。

军阀混战的岁月里，贺龙从营长一直做到灃州镇守使，又纳了艺人出身的胡琴仙为妾。

后来，贺龙开创湘鄂西革命根据地，成为红二方面军总指挥。长征前，贺龙与萧克将军分别娶了出身商人家庭的一对学生姐妹，贺龙娶了姐姐蹇先任，萧克娶了妹妹蹇先佛。蹇先任比贺龙小13岁，活了95岁，直到2004年去世。

贺龙跟蹇先任离婚后，1942年，娶了比他小20岁的天津姑娘、延安县委组织部长薛明。

五、刘伯承结过三次婚

1910年，18岁的刘伯承与16岁的程宜芝结婚，1912年生子刘俊泰。是年刘伯承入重庆将校学堂，从此投身军旅，音信渐缺。程宜芝独力抚养儿子，据说直到1957年去世。

1930年，刘伯承回到中央军委任参谋长，在上海搞地下工作。他化名“林直木”，以教授身份娶了一位名叫吴景春的妻子。

1936年，红军三大主力会师之际，44岁的红军总参谋长“刘匪伯承”，忽然诗兴大发，给一个从安徽六安参军的名叫汪荣华的19岁女红军大写情书，而且是用毛笔写的蝇头小楷。二人遂于中秋节闪电结婚。

六、陈毅正式婚姻有三次陈毅1930年任红22军军长时，在江西信丰，娶了当地一位才貌出众的19岁女学生萧菊英，次年陈毅去开肃反会，归途遇白匪袭击，马死了，人活着，步行绕路回去。不料萧菊英认为陈毅已死，跳井殉情了……

1932年，李富春蔡畅夫妇给陈毅介绍了18岁的兴国女红军赖月明，于重阳佳节洞房花烛。二人婚后情深意重，却是聚少离多。1937年国共合作抗日，陈毅得知赖月明被国民党拘捕后为抗拒逼嫁，跳崖自尽了……

1940年，年近不惑的新四军一支队司令员陈毅，与18岁的武汉姑娘张茜结婚，白头到老。张茜本名张春兰，陈毅追人家时，苦心经营了一首《赞春兰》:“小箭含胎初生岗，似是欲绽蕊吐黄。娇艳高雅世难受，万紫千红妒幽香。”

七、罗荣桓两次婚姻

罗荣桓17岁那年，在老家湖南衡山，由父母做主，娶了一位比他大两岁的结发妻子颜月娥��1926年，他们生下一个女儿罗玉英。

1937年5月16日，八路军115师政治部主任、35岁的罗荣桓在延安与23岁的红军女干部林月琴结婚。解放军1955年第一次授衔时，林月琴是全军唯一的女大校 (叶群只是上校)。2003年她以89岁高龄去世时，职位是副兵团级。

八、徐向前拥有四任妻子

徐帅的仗打得艰难，婚姻也十分坎坷。20岁那年，由父母包办，他在老家娶了朱香婵为妻。两年后生一女孩，取名松枝。孩子周岁，朱香婵不幸病逝。

1929年，徐向前来到鄂豫皖苏区，经人介绍，与湖北黄安的18岁女红军程训萱于年底结婚，两人非常恩爱。1932年，程训宣在张国焘的“白雀园肃反”中被处死，年仅21岁，徐向前心痛欲绝。

直到1940年，徐总到山东工作时，才经劝说与女干部王婧结了婚，生有一女，取名徐鲁溪。三年后徐王二人因感情不合分了手。

1946年，45岁的陕甘��晋绥联防副司令兼参谋长徐向前，与36岁的延安保育院院长黄杰喜结良缘。黄杰曾与中共重要领袖曾中生结过婚，不久曾中生在张国焘的肃反中被杀。共同的革命理想和相似的痛苦经历，使徐向前和黄杰成为肝胆相照的终生夫妻。

九、聂荣臻除了一次旧式婚姻外，就只有一位革命夫人

毛泽东两次说过:“聂荣臻是个厚道人。”仅就婚恋这个问题来看，聂帅是十大元帅中最少“花絮”的。他跟罗帅一样，除了一次身不由己的旧式婚姻之外，就只有一位革命夫人张瑞华。

关于聂帅元配夫人名叫龙升贤，品貌端庄，1919年结婚，无子女。不久聂帅就去“洋插队”了，未再回去看她。建国后老人家由政府照顾，聂帅也每月给她寄钱。1988年去世。

十、大元帅叶剑英殿后，其婚姻次数一举夺冠，共娶过9个老婆！

十大元帅殿后的，就是中国现当代史上谁也不能不说谁都想说但是又谁也说不清楚的叶剑英了。

据说老叶早年有桩包办婚姻，一无子女，二无音讯，估计跟其他老帅的原配情况大同小异。

1924年初，叶剑英在广州与医务工作者冯华结婚。当年11月，生下长子叶选平，后又生了长女叶楚梅，名字都取得很漂亮。

1927年，30岁的叶剑英娶了不到18岁的教导团女战士曾宪植。曾宪植一是美貌，年轻时有人夸张地誉为“美若天仙”，二是名门之后，高祖曾国荃就是曾国藩的弟弟，率领湘军攻破天京的“九帅”。美貌加上名门，人生难免要倒几回霉。

1937年，40岁的叶剑英担任八路军参谋长，在延安与长征女干部、 32岁的危拱之(1905-1973)结婚。危拱之出身于河南信阳的书香门第，多才多艺。二人婚后各自忙碌，没有子女。

1940年，与南方局机要员吴博结婚。1941年，吴博给叶帅生下女儿叶向真，即著名影片《原野》的导演凌子，凤凰卫视近年对她进行过专访。

1948年末，他与华北“军大”学员李刚结婚，生子叶选廉，女儿叶文珊。1955年因感情不合，二人离异。以上为叶帅正式的6位夫人，在国家正规的出版物中均可查到。

此后30年的漫长岁月，因为生活和情感的需要，据说叶帅身边还先后有过三位女性(参见戴晴的有关叙述)，其中最后一位比叶帅年轻将近60岁，超过杨振宁老师与翁帆同学的落差。

#十大元帅 #娶妻 #朱德 #彭德怀 #林彪 #贺龙 #刘伯承 #陈毅 #罗荣桓 #徐向前 #聂荣臻 #叶剑英

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wolfenm · 5 years

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The Untamed Chinoserie Music Album* Track Listing in English

(*As opposed to the instrumental album.)

*UPDATED* Amazon finally changed their track listing -- they list the song names in pinyin now, though, not English, but I’ve listed that here now for cross-reference purposes.

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So, the digital file info for all the tracks in Amazon's digital download for this album is all in Chinese; the Amazon listing doesn't have the song info in English; and the Apple Music listing has English info, but doesn't have the corresponding Chinese info. Therefore, I sat down and cross-referenced the two listings with each other, and with Wikipedia, so that I could know the song names and which actors were singing which tracks; since I did all that work, I figured I might as well share it and maybe help someone else out, right? (Please note: I don’t know Chinese, neither spoken nor written, so I basically just had to rely on logic and do the best I could.)

When there are singer name discrepancies, I list what Amazon says (after running it through a Chinese character-to-Pinyin converter), and then note if Apple Music or Wikipedia says something different. Also, for the last four songs, Wikipedia didn't correctly match the Amazon track names (nor give the correct running times); for those tracks, I matched the Chinese characters from the track to the Chinese characters in the available Wikipedia titles. I can confirm that the tracks bearing the same numbers on the Apple Music album and the Amazon album are indeed the same songs -- they aren't in a different order from each other.

Note: I'm baffled why songs 6 and 18 have the same name in Chinese characters / pinyin, as they are completely different! I also have no idea how the got translated into English differently.

Please let me know if there are any errors, or things that should be added. The format goes:

Track #- [Character the song is for / misc] “Amazon pinyin” “Title on Wikipedia” (title on Apple Music)

Singer/s (who they play in the show) (discrepancies, if any)

Digital file name in Chinese

Singer/s' name in Chinese

Running time

1- [Theme Song] “Wu Ji” "Unrestrained (无羁)" (aka "The Untamed", Chorus Edition)

Xiao Zhan (Wei Wuxian) & Yi Bo (Lan Wangji)

【主题曲】无羁 (合唱版)

by 肖战, 王一博