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skysaunter · 2 months
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@misfittcd inadvertently jabbing me 'n vaderkin with every reblog
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Out of curiosity: do you believe Anakin was truly was the Chosen One or was it Luke the whole time?
Anakin. 1000% Anakin. I believe it's Anakin as per Word of God, as well, but I don't have the quote on hand right now.
Part of the weirdness over this is because of how the films were released, Luke is obviously the main character of the original trilogy of films, he's the one on the hero's journey, and there was never any mention of a prophecy in those films. So when the Prequels came out and made this whole prophecy thing for Anakin, it's understandable that people sort-of looked at it and went, "But if Anakin was the Chosen One, why is Luke the hero in the end still?" Which has obviously led to a bunch of theories that it was Luke all along, that Qui-Gon misunderstood the prophecy or just misapplied it to Anakin, or even that Luke BECAME the new Chosen One when Anakin fell (all of which are made worse by Rebels sort-of validating this take by having Obi-Wan claim Luke is the Chosen One). I get it.
But the entire purpose of Anakin's story to me only works if he IS the Chosen One and he just... fails. Anakin fails. He defies his own destiny and it destroys an entire galaxy. One of the BEST things about the Prequels is how hard they work to subvert certain tropes and narrative expectations. Padme and Anakin are forbidden lovers, but it's a toxic unhealthy love and the relationship is forbidden for good reason. Anakin is willing to burn down the world for Padme, but it's not at all romantic when the world is actually burning and it's going to burn both of them down with it. Prophecies exist, Chosen Ones exist, but prophecies can be DEFIED and Chosen Ones can fail if they're making selfish choices. You only get the happy ending from the prophecy if you're making the right choices.
So Anakin DOES end up destroying the Sith and bringing balance to the Force, but only when he makes a choice that's primarily SELFLESS in nature. He MIGHT'VE been able to destroy Palpatine the Sith way, but then he himself would still be a Sith and so the prophecy isn't actually fulfilled. There would be no balance in the Force while Anakin remains a Sith. So until he figures out how to leave his darkness behind, he'll continue to defy his own fate.
And that is a FASCINATING way to represent a prophecy and apply a destiny to someone without completely removing their agency or making all of their choices unimportant. Anakin's choices literally define the fate of the GALAXY because the prophecy only gets to come true when he makes the right choices. Theoretically, Anakin could defy this prophecy until he dies. Personally, I think that this is something that could happen. Anakin could make that choice, he could literally just defy the prophecy FOREVER and it would just never happen. It doesn't mean he ISN'T the Chosen One, he just chose incorrectly and so the prophecy never actually gets to come true.
I also like that this leaves room for other people to achieve the same end without being part of the prophecy. Theoretically, Palpatine could still be killed in other ways, even while Anakin's alive. The prophecy isn't stopping someone ELSE from killing Palpatine (or Anakin), it's just a LOT harder. We do see people more attuned to the Force kind-of stepping back from something they can feel is perhaps someone else's destiny or following someone specifically because they have a destiny for something, but the opportunity is there for regular people to step up where a Chosen One has failed. And it's one of the things I love MOST about the Star Wars universe, I love the way this worldbuilding works.
Luke is still a hero, obviously, he plays a major role in Anakin ultimately making that final selfless choice, his faith in Anakin and his refusal to kill Anakin and his adherence to Jedi compassion are what eventually help lead Anakin towards making the choice that allows the prophecy to finally be fulfilled. I'm not downplaying Luke's importance or his heroism at all, but I think it kind-of makes all of his choices even MORE heroic if he's NOT a Chosen One. He doesn't do these things because he was destined to do them, but because he's a good, kind, brave, strong person making the choice to do heroic things. He's choosing to do what he believes needs to be done for the greater good. He's just a regular person, with no prophecies to fulfill, having to step into the shoes of a hero because his father failed and threw the galaxy into chaos. How is that NOT more interesting than just saying Luke was the real Chosen One all along?
So you'll never catch me saying the Chosen One was anybody but Anakin in canon. It's absolutely Anakin and it'll always BE Anakin. You remove SO MUCH of the best parts of Star Wars if you take away that part of it.
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vetinarivimesy · 2 years
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Kenobi-centric fic recs
Everything here will heavily feature Obi-Wan Kenobi in some fashion, and will vary wildly by ship, tone, and fic-type though I'll do my best to give little blurbs/not-too-spoilery summaries.
The fics range from gen to explicit, in some cases pre-date tagging ettiquette, and, no, no I have not re-read them all (ye gods have you seen the word counts).
In a few cases I'm basing my summaries on very hazy memory and I have a noted bad habit of skimming straight past explicit porn when I don't want to read it, then forgetting its there entirely - so caveat lector!
These are mostly fics that I currently mentally catalogue as Wonderful Obvious Obi-Wan Kenobi Goodness fics rather than expecting to dig up any obscure hidden gems. The list would probably look very different on a different day. It's far from comprehensive, and the categories are loose at best. But here it is!
I've been contemplating putting something like this together for a while but been a bit nervous of sticking my head up above the metaphorical parapet. As, follows my fave character around without caring overmuch about the ship trash, I've got quite a list of Star Wars fics inhaled/rediscovered.
(Wee bit too used to coming into very dead fandoms long after everyone's left, put the chairs up on the tables, the metaphorical lights have been turned off... and the not so metaphorical bills have stopped being paid. More than once I've stumbled into a wonderful old fandom fic archive only for it to vanish into, Only What Was Saved on the Internet Archive Remains status. Even when the archive isn't actually an ex-archive, many don't actually allow for interaction. Apologies to the authors I've never worked up the courage to comment on, this is an explanation not an excuse!)
Obi-Wan's apprenticeship fics:
Commander Kenobi - norcumi (complete, 9646 words)
Obi-Wan gets de-aged in the midst of battle. Cody gets to find out what teenaged Obi-Wan was like. Given Obi-Wan thinks he's fresh out of Melida-Daan, nothing like whatever Cody might have been expecting.
A Town Called Stagnation - deniigiq (complete, 33,000 words)
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan take a trip to Stewjon, to let Obi-Wan get in touch with his roots post the horrorshow of his early apprenticeship. Smalltown thinking and the trauma of recent events clash horribly for everyone involved.
Another brilliant author who's whole fic-output is well worth checking out. Their wry utterly charming character voices never fail to amuse, even when the POV character is one I'm currently in an... actually I wouldn't mind some bashing of this guy kinda mood. I draw amusement and sympathy for Qui-Gon's character in every single one of their immediately post-Melida Daan fics for context here, with my knowledge of that event thoroughly warped and contaminated by the current popular fanon take on the matter too.
Though more Cody-centric, and thus Clone Wars era, than anything parallelogram (Complete, 33,000 words) and they're neutral (complete, 9900 words) by the same author are also wonderful.
poisoned chalice - qigiined (Complete, 9900 words)
Another author with the wit and deftness of characterisation to make immediately-post-Melida-Daan Qui-Gon's POV both amusing and sympathetic. They've also got quite a few other gems!
Qui-Gon's very wry POV as he tries to navigate raising a very traumatised child, and appeasing his various lineage members.
through hardships to the stars - kivaember (WIP, 148,000 words)
Canon divergence where Obi-Wan's apprenticeship snafu on Melida-Daan went just that much worse than those Legends-were-never-technically-canon novels would have it.
As a result Obi-Wan and a very young Jango Fett end up on the run from a terrifying darksider, whilst Jaster Mereel and Feemor despearately try to catch up with the pair.
Little Lights Stories - ms_nawilla (WIP, 628,000 words)
Qui-Gon neglected too much of Obi-Wan's training, so Obi-Wan isn't immediately knighted post-Naboo despite saving Qui-Gon's life and defeating the Sith.
Anakin goes to the creche, Qui-Gon's in utter denial, and Obi-Wan begins the rocky process of finding his own feet post-Naboo, getting through the thorny process of working out who you are as your own person after living under someone else's oppressive shadow for far too long.
Super detailed epic detailing all sorts of wonderful possible jedi-culture headcanons, illuminated manuscripts! beer! force-manipulation games! communal caring! crystallography! sex ed! old-people's homes! the engineers! clerical branch! outreach via art! dance instruction! reincarnation! politics! spies! terrible james bond esque spy films to hide that the spies were really real! lightsaber classes! non-jedi temple residents! U and L leaning prejudice! Alderaan!
Just what would happen if Qui-Gon Jinn were exactly the sort of irresponsible unpleasant adult who should never ever be given a child a lot of fandom suspects he is. His implied treatment of Obi-Wan here can be fairly harrowing, for all that its emotional neglect rather than anything graphic.
The jedi are never depicted as anything less than trying their best, unfortunately no matter how thorough the system tries to be, sometimes people do just fall through the cracks. As was v.nearly the case for Obi-Wan in this verse.
Mostly character driven, though the hints of the greater plot bubbling away underneath all of this glorious worldbuilding and character growth are both ominous and intriguing. The pairing is a hell of a spoiler, but also one that could potentially be a bit of a squick, I don't want to spoil the slowburn of this thing but I do want to give fair warning. Does tumblr offer spoiler tags?
Preventing Order 66 fics:
When Duty is Done - thosenearandfarwars (WIP, 257,000 words)
Wonderful long-form piece - technically a WIP but all installments so far are complete - a what happens next post-Palp's getting his comeuppance, messily. Features Codywan, grief, internalised ableism, jedi order reforming in a very nuanced 'we were this close to the brink' and lost so many people to the war sense *not* the sneaky 'jedi-positive but actually bashing' sense.
Hell I wholeheartedly reccie just about everything this author's ever done tbh!
(This Too Was a Gift (Complete, 69,000 words) is also utterly wonderfully done, and a complete fic in a similar vein, albeit much more focused on the ramifications for individual characters than the ensemble cast of thousands that is Star Wars.)
I Got My Head Checked - frostbitebakery (Complete, 79,000 words)
Codywan Sith!Obi-Wan AU. Cody falls for the hot Sith in the next cell...
Light of the Mists- Snowy Egret Chimes of Kyber, Songs of Kyber, and Anthem of Kyber (Complete, 166,000 words)
This one technically also fits the Obi-Wan's apprenticeship category too. Bit of an epic of, what would happen if Obi-Wan never made it to Bandomeer, and instead trained under a force sect with rather different ideas about how things worked than the modern jedi order?
Supreme Chancellor Obi-Wan Kenobi - stonefreeak (WIP, 113,000 words)
Wonderful crackfic premise done mostly seriously. (WIP)
By an extremely obscure bit of Senate Legalise, Obi-Wan finds himself thrust into the role of Supreme Chancellor. Palpatine is furious.
How A Romance Novel Saved The Galaxy - Ariana Deralte (WIP, 184,000 words)
The galaxy takes a left turn when a popular novel takes the world by storm, and the Jedi and Mandalorians mutually discover their two cultures aren't so different after all...
sanguine - glimmerglanger (complete, 158,000 words)
In which Obi-Wan being a vampire, with all the nasty prejudices that come with being a non-human in the GFFA, somehow saves the galaxy.
Just Go Kill Palpatine - nevertheless_turtle (WIP, 6662 words though this is likely an underestimate due to formatting of a wonderful epistolary/OutsiderPOV social-media-centric chapter)
Just as the title says. Obi-Wan goes and attempts to do just that. Wonderful and hilarious.
The More I Live the More I See this Life is Not About Me - K_R_Closson
Another de-aged Obi-Wan fic. In which post-Melida-Daan suspicious of everyone and everything Kenobi somehow fixes things. Everyone around Obi-Wan is suitably horrified by the news of just what his apprenticeship under Qui-Gon entailed.
Not Quite Sure How to Catergorise these...
This category is the equivalent of the draw marked 'misc.' sorry! Mostly a mix of action/adventure stuff and fics I suspect will turn into, and they prevented order 66 fix-its, but maybe not, with some other truly misc. things thrown in.
backdrop - esama (Complete, 2300 words)
Short and sweet self-contained little tale. Very succinct, but what the author does with those words...
Gunslinger's Paean - Idiot's Array + Homeworld Elegy - Ashcroft_Writes (WIP, 299,000 words)
Epic, what if Obi-Wan post-Rako Hardeen paired up with Cad Bane action adventure tale. Mistrust. Violence. Gunslinging. Espionage. Murder attempts galore!
We Brothers, We Sisters, We Vod'e Few - infinitecompositions(WIP, 322,000 words)
Hell of a fic. WIP. What if canon were to take just a step to the left... Post-Naboo Obi-Wan finds himself recruited for the Shadows branch of the jedi order...
Another epic, cough, can you tell what style I like yet? Uh, starts off as a bit of a dark action adventure romp, rapidly morphs into a detailed dissection of spy-craft, espionage, and galactic politics - but becomes no less tense for it.
Kneading - Threebea O (WIP, 79,000 words)
Manages the miraculous trick of being canon, whilst seeming to be a fluffy bakery AU for a significant chunk of the first few chapters.
Jango/Obi - Jango falls for a local baker whilst hanging out in small town with Boba. Increasingly important to the fate of the galaxy shenanigans inevitably ensue when aforementioned baker turns out to be Obi-Wan Kenobi undercover.
Be Your Love - glimmerglanger (complete, explicit, 9000 words)
I tend not to go for 'real world' AUs but this author's work is so very excellent that I'm reccieing this one - hell I think most of their work is well worth a look through, and every fic-genre they've attempted has proven very fun indeed.
Heed the tags. Explicit Codywan BDSM stuff contained within.
Wizard of the Jundland Wastes - phoenixyfriend (complete, 3200 words)
Obi-Wan on Tatooine, outsiderPOV.
One of many wonderful Star Wars fics this author has written. If this one doesn't catch your fancy, one of their many delightful utterly bizarre premise taken to logical conclusion fics probably will.
Father of the Year (Not) - phoenixyfriend (complete, 2430 words)
Obi-Wan and Jango find out they're each other's soulmates. Mostly they're furious.
Wonderful very pointed skewering of all the usual soulmate and Jango is actually a decent dude tendencies in fic-writing.
Time Travel fics:
I thought I fought this war alone - stonefreeak (Complete, 3783 words)
Wonderful short and sweet Obi-Wan time travelling to his padawan days fix-it.
this is unexpected - MarbleGlove (Complete, 4461 words)
Very succinct and perfect with it time travel what if. Old Ben Kenobi goes back in time and immediately ruins Palpatine's day.
This author tends to be delightful no matter the fandom.
The Sun Swings East - kj_feybarn (Complete, 33,000 words)
Brilliantly done timeloop story of woe and hope. As much about recovery as the initial plot-driven despair. Mind the tags, Obi-Wan is understandably severely depressed throughout much of this fic.
The Making of Mavericks - AppoApples (complete, 146,000 words)
It was extremely difficult to choose just the one time travel fic from this author. Their output is wonderfully varied, don't like their particular take on the Jedi Order and/or the Mandalorians in this fic? Pick another, and odds are they'll have explored the concept from precisely the opposite angle.
This author has a wonderful exploratory sense of, okay okay, so how do we fix this thing/how do we make it worse?
In this case, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Cody, and Rex time travel to the past. This creates broad sweeping changes to the timeline, not always for the better.
The Desert Storm (complete, 1,144,599 words) & Rise and Fall series (WIP, 396,000 words) - Blue_Sunshine (WIP)
Wonderful epic-length time-travel fic. Highly recommended. Technically a WIP, but what there is already is well worth the time.
Ben Kenobi, now Nasaade, in utter furious despair finds himself back in time, pre, well, everything. He decides to take matters into his own hands and change things.
Gorgeous character-work, where by the end of the piece the characters are all in very different places than where they started out. And you utterly believe the growth (positive and negative) that got them there.
Draws from both legends and canon in a bit of a hodgepodge approach - despite drawing from a few of the more leaning towards the jedi were the bad guys sources in legends, impressively manages to tread a nuanced stance on, okay so what if the jedi and mandalorians did decide to start reforming in the face of this grave existential threat that's been brought to their attention?
Wonderful utterly enviable pacing - I know this one's extremely long. But at no point do you ever feel/notice the length when reading this thing.
It Was Another Time and I Another Man - Pell_Binterhol (WIP, 196,000 words)
Multiple Kenobis time travelling. Absolute chaos for absolutely everyone else; fellow time travellers, fellow Kenobis, and plotting Sith alike.
the massive machinery of hope - Killbothtwins (Complete, 150,000 words)
Obi-Wan travels back to his padawan days and annoys everyone else into helping him save the day. Wonderful sense of wry humour throughout this fic.
Living Memory - elsa3beth (WIP, 363,000 words)
Epic very detailed wonderful fic detailing just what General Kenobi would do if he had to fight the war again.
Deals with just what could happen if Anakin had ever had to face his fellow jedi with even a few of his flaws laid bare, and the fallout.
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan, just barely managing to hold himself together, fresh out of the middle of his exile to Tatooine, is desperately playing four-dimensional chess against Palpatine and trying to use the awful structure of the Republic's Army to save both the Jedi and the Clones.
The 212th Attack Battalion's Guide to Saving the Galaxy by Accident - antigrav_vector & quarra (WIP, 783,000 words)
Long, character driven fic that's an incredibly fun take on just what might happen if Obi-Wan and a bunch of Ghost Company stumbled into Jaster Mereel's True Mandalorians and get themselves adopted. Heed the tags wrt pairings!
All the complications that come from being an adult stuck as an apparent child ensue. From being squicked out about being a kid again, to having other people being concerned that a kid is behaving like an adult, to just... time travel complications, kidnapping, force esoterica, and fighting a small war.
Plenty of Jedi thoughtfully staring at this strange miniature jedi master, lots of Mandalorians being both stunned and horrified by these tiny soldiers, and Dooku/Sifo-Dyas being a surprisingly lovely central pairing.
Not Qui-Gon friendly in the least, and in this verse you can't help but feel he very much deserves it.
Suicidal Misunderstandings - nevertheless_turtle (WIP, 67,000 words)
Obi-Wan spends much of this fic convinced he's hallucinating and on a bad spice-trip. The trigger warning is very much in the name here.
That said, wonderful, often hilarious time travelling Obi-Wan fic, as the jedi desperately try to work out 1) what's wrong with Obi-Wan, and 2) how to stop Palpatine.
Re-Entry (Complete, 568,000 words) and Re-Entry Journey of the Whills (WIP, 889,000 words) - flamethrower
Fair warning, might turn into a deadlink fairly soon. The author's stuff is in the process of being transferred to another archive. Not a big deal (though fandom being a collective arse is, ffs), as with many older fics this one has moved home fairly often! (Squidgeworld.)
Wonderful absolute epic time travelling Obi-Wan Kenobi fic. Even if you're not a fan of the central Qui/Obi pairing it's written from a very believable perspective, of you can see precisely how these two adults got there, and an extremely enjoyable read with it.
Starts off as a fairly character-driven piece, as the plot slowly builds into something extremely ominous indeed, though once the plot momentum gets going ye gods it gets going.
Another case of technically a series that's a WIP, but every individual story that's up is complete and a satisfying individual whole.
Filled with all the things I love in a Star Wars fic, Obi-Wan getting to be awesome, force esoterica, Obi-Wan getting to be a little shit, plotty plot, the jedi getting to be nuanced and awesome, canon and fanon star wars lore all over the place, and plenty of action adventure and gorgeous character work.
I don't want to go into too much spoilery detail here, but suffice it to say this one is a classic in the fandom for a reason, and deservedly so.
Warning that the dark stuff in this fic can get dark, the level of whump Obi-Wan endures goes all the way up to extremely creepy Palpatine-torture on par with the Ventress/Sith-mask/Alpha-17 situation. It's never gratuitous with it, but in places this fic is explicit, at turns in both the fun porny way and the whump sense.
Star Wars crossovers and fusions:
Alas this section will be shorter than I'd like it to be - unlike a lot of other sci-fi fandoms Star Wars fandom seems to shy away from crossover fic by and large. There's both less of it, and what there is seems to get a hell of a lot less interaction than it would in a different fandom. Not guilt-tripping, again, I am very very guilty of failing to interact myself, just a weird, 'huh, where are all the crossovers?' thing I've noticed.
Rouge Handed - nevertheless_turtle (complete, 2190 words)
As the name hopefully implies this one's kinda sorta a Moulin Rouge crossover. Ish. In that it's firmly set wholly in the GFFA.
Delightful little crackfic.
The weeping stone - Gabriel4Sam (complete, 6965 words)
A wonderful crossover with The Mummy that somehow manages to thread the needle, hitting the humorous tone of those films perfectly whilst simultaneously making you feel very sad indeed for Obi-Wan.
A Star to Steer By - dogmatix, norcumi (first fic in the series is complete, second a WIP, 109,000 words)
Absolutely wonderful Stargate crossover/fusion - it somehow manages to be both a crossover and a fusion at once.
Largely told from Jack's POV, the Jedi are symbionts, with all the misunderstandings that would imply, given the SGC are much more used to dealing with malevolent parasitic Goa'uld than benevolent symbiosis.
Lost Jedi - Augusta Pembroke (complete)
A Velvet Goldmine crossover fic. Curt Wild meets Qui-Gon Jinn, and things get complicated. Qui/Curt with implied unfulfilled Qui/Obi feelings.
All the unhealthy messy relationship stuff the Velvet Goldmine tag and the age of the fic implies is probably present and correct here.
Qui-Gon ends trapped on the wrong side of the galaxy, he finds Curt who's force sensitive, and trains him to help him get back home to Obi-Wan... Things get messy.
Snow and Cinder - MrsHamill (explicit, complete, 16,000 words)
The pre-requisite wonderfully done Highlander/Methos crossover fic. Obi-Wan hangs out with the ROG for a while post-Naboo in a bid to get over a falling out with Qui-Gon Jinn and work through his own messy feelings on the matter. The main pairing is Qui/Obi as many older Master&Apprentice archive era fics are.
All you really need to know about Methos is he's very old, and very cynical. He's literally seen and done it all.
This one doesn't fall into the all too easy to fall into trap of having Methos, understandably an extremely old and cunning immortal being so much better at anything and everything than everyone else around him that it stops being fun and starts bashing the other-verse in the crossover, for which I'm extremely grateful. It's a difficult balance to tread and this author manages it wonderfully. (I say this from first-hand, I have tried and failed to airdrop this character into other sci-fi fandoms you'd think he'd work well in, fic-author perspective rather than as a crit of anyone else's work!)
Look at the publishing dates please.
A few of these fics pre-date Attack of the Clones. They were written in the 90s.
If I find out someone's been bashing an author for outdated terminology or characterisation or for not using the current 2022 language, or a character the fic pre-dates in a fic they've not looked at for over twenty years, or how they wrote the central pairing in the era when the punchline to every single joke in Hollywood was 'haha they're gay!' I... Well... I won't be writing another one of these rec lists. Which isn't much of a threat I realise, but please, be civil.
I could probably easily fill a couple more of these lists tbh, and get more specific with it genre-wise... But as a general, here's a few fics I remember fondly often. I can feel myself getting neurotically 'this has to be perfect' at this thing, so, this'll do for now.
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gffa · 2 years
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Hi! I want to ask you something since you know so much. I think I might've misunderstood some parts of Anakin bringing balance to the Force. I've always heard people say "there were too many jedi", that's why balance was needed and that's why they had to die too. I just believed that tbh. However, I saw someone say that the "Jedi act in harmony with the Force" which would mean the imbalance existed because of the Sith. Have I been fed empire approved sith propaganda all this time?
Hi! Here's why the idea that "too many Jedi = imbalance" doesn't work for me--during the time of the Empire, there were two Jedi (Obi-Wan and Yoda) and two Sith (Sidious and Vader). Are we saying that the time of the Empire was good and balanced? Because I'm pretty sure that's not the message of Star Wars! I just don't think the message of Star Wars would be "and then balance was brought to the Force through the murder of a bunch of toddlers asking for help". I'm pretty sure that "equal amounts of Jedi and Sith (like during the Empire) was BAD" is much more accurate to the tone of the movies. Further, to get into the whole "what is the balance of the Force?" thing, you have to start with the foundations of how the Force works, that the light side is good (compassion, love, selflessness) and the dark side (anger, hate, fear, greed, selfishness) is bad. That the way George Lucas describes the Force: “The core of the Force–I mean, you got the dark side, the light side, one is selfless, one is selfish, and you wanna keep them in balance. What happens when you go to the dark side is it goes out of balance and you get really selfish and you forget about everybody … because when you get selfish you get stuff, or you want stuff, and when you want stuff and you get stuff then you are afraid somebody is going to take it away from you, whether it’s a person or a thing or a particular pleasure or experience. [….] “Only way to overcome the dark side is through discipline. The dark side is pleasure, biological and temporary and easy to achieve. The light side is joy, everlasting and difficult to achieve. A great challenge. Must overcome laziness, give up quick pleasures, and overcome fear which leads to hate." --George Lucas, The Clone Wars writers' meeting That is 100% in line with Yoda and the other Jedi explaining how the Force works, which means the Jedi are correct about it and that's a huge sign that they're reliable narrators about the Force lore we learn from them! The Jedi are acting harmony with the Force, indeed. There's often the idea that balance means equal amounts of something, but I instead of think of it as balance as in stability.  The light side, which is love and compassion, can we ever really strive to have too much kindness and care for others in the world?  If there were more goodness in the world, would that make it unstable?  In contrast, if there's a lot hate, greed, and selfishness in the world, that does lead to instability, it leads to people hurting each other and making the world a worse place to live. So, why is there imbalance while the Jedi are around?  Well, the Force doesn't belong to just the Jedi, does it?  Over and over, the Jedi tell us that the Force is in everything, everyone and every living thing in the galaxy contributes to the Force.  Look at when the dark side is growing--on the cusp of the war!  Where there are so many people in the galaxy, trillions and trillions of everyday people being angry and afraid and hateful (both legitimately and not), that the Force is slowly being darkened.  There's so much anger at the state of the galaxy, so many people aren't helping each other anymore ("Mom, you said that the biggest problem in the universe is no one helps each other." --Anakin, The Phantom Menace) that the Force is darkening and the Jedi are only one out of every six billion people.  One Jedi cannot be enough light to counterbalance 6 billion people! Balance in the Force isn't really even about the Jedi, per se.  It's about everyone.  It's about people rising up against the darkness and saying they'll help each other.  It's about the Sith finally being gone from the galaxy, but the Jedi return to it.  Vader and Sidious both die, but Luke remains as a Jedi, this is a better, more balanced state than before, a triumphant ending to the OT. The Sith aren't the entire source of the darkness in the Force, I wouldn't say, but instead that the galaxy had become incredibly dysfunctional--that's a huge part of how the Senate had become more interested in its own greed than it was in helping the people they represented, it was a huge part of how the people were angry at being neglected, it was a huge part about how the Sith were stirring up and catalyzing that sentiment, and the Jedi were doing everything they could to help defend and save innocent people, they were the only ones (along with a handful of politicians like Bail and Padme) who were trying to help people and create good in the galaxy, but for every one of them, there were a dozen or more powerful senators who were selfish and greedy, for every war the Jedi managed to end, two more were popping up in another part of the galaxy. It was only once the people were willing to stand up and fight for themselves (as the galactic public wasn't willing to stand up for themselves ("The rift in the galaxy is not [the Jedi's] fault.  If more worlds would stand up for themselves against the Separatists, this war would have been over long ago." --Obi-Wan, The Clone Wars) instead of making the clones fight for them or turning a blind eye when the Jedi babies were murdered in their home, that the darkness could finally start to ebb again. The Jedi and the Sith play pivotal roles in the light vs the dark, but ultimately it's bigger than any one person or even any one group of people.  The Jedi are reliable narrators of how the Force works, they act in harmony with it to the best of their abilities, but balance isn't really about only them, it's about everyone. And balance isn't equal amounts of light and dark--that gets you the Empire.  Balance is when everyone works together and cares about each other and loves each other and is compassionate to each other--the light side is the balance!
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roboknight-prime · 7 months
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(This is my first post on here😅)
i wanted to get this off of my chest about
The Drama between Sabezra and Wolfwren Shippers...
So i have been hearing a lot of drama going on with the Star Wars Community between the Shippers of Sabezra and this so-called "Wolfwren," which i really don't get? Because Shin Hati, who is an amazing character, doesn't have a name of "wolf" but people say that Baylon (R.I.P Ray Stevenson) found her during Order 66 and trained her to be not a Jedi nor a sith but something else? My guess is a Grey Jedi term. who both used the power of light and dark sides of the Force. Then, somehow, it gotten worse because the actors shared some Shinxsabine art? Even though they're just using them to promote the Ahsoka Series, and i know that the actors like this "wolfwren" (in my opinion... it's a stupid ship name, and I'm sorry about that, but i fully respect it just... workshop the name) And there are two characters that have the name of wolf. Such as Clone Commander Wolffe and Mandalorian Nite Owl Axe Wolves.
But Shin doesn't have that, but people have been saying that Baylon is like a Wolf and Shin is a Cub wolf, which is.... odd. But literally, tho. Even people who shipped Miles and Gwen they even called them GhostFlower.
Which i totally get!
Because Miles listen to the music Sunflower, and Gwen is literally a ghost to all the Peter Parkers who have lost their Gwens in their Dimensions.
But wolfwren? I don't get it at all.
But back to the point of all this "drama" between shippers and these so-called "ship wars"
But people can ship whoever they want they are going to be people who will disagree on stuff no matter what. That's what literally makes us humans. But fighting over fictional characters and sending threats to the artist is not ok, and your choices will always have consequences. I am going to say the cold-hearted truth.
Dave Filoni won't have the These characters get together in Ahsoka season 2 because we all must learn by now that Dave Filoni always has a character die in the series. I didn't care what reaction Ezra and Sabine were going to have when Wren found Bridger. And they hugged for the very first time. That made me happy, and i was happy that Ezra was found.
But it is also up to Dave Filoni and the Writers to decide that. And knowing Dave Filoni, he is not going to do that. Because we know that he's gonna write the story for season 2 on his own again, like how he did with Ahsoka Season 1, and we all know that Sabine isn't planning to get into a relationship because she's a rebel (not the hero type crap) the rebel type where she ditches school and causes chaos to annoy the police crap. Plus She's so Mandalorian. And let's also not forget that Force-sensitive warriors and Mandalorians were once Ancient enemies until Jedi Knight Revan got involved in the fight, but that's a story for another time.
It is also not ok to force someone into shipping that similar fictional characters. We all have a right and a choice to ship what characters they want to ship.
And i am going to give everyone a reminder about Ezra and Sabine. Read this VERY!! Carefully!
They are not related. i get it that they have a Platonic Relationship. Some of you can see them as Siblings while others just see them as high school dorks/best friends/friends to lovers and all of that crap. Which i totally respect, and it's your own opinion and your choice.
And fighting over Fictional Characters getting together is not worth it, and let me remind you all that both ships will never happen. And i am sorry to both Sabezra and Wolfwren shippers... mostly to The Sabezra group since i ship Ezra and Sabine for a long time since Rebels came out. But never mind that.
And sorry for saying this as well..
It is also stupid of people to fight over fictional characters that aren't real!! This whole ship wars is useless and an excuse to make more drama to the Star Wars Community.
Star Wars is for everyone!
And then, really, people are getting pissed off about the actors posting the wolfwren art instead of the Sabezra artwork. And also supporting it. (No disrespect to the actors tho they did amazing playing as the Characters in the series) Come back into reality the only reason why they did that so they can piss off people in the community and also promote the series/making money about it. That's what actors do. Everything is about the money nowadays and money talks. But let's also not forget that they are under contract as well. And I can not say a lot of things about the series. And they didn't credit the artist that made them because the Star Wars Characters aren't owned by us. But the official account of Ahsoka did they don't care if its a ship. All they see is just big dollar signs of those characters.
I'm gonna say this again to remind you all again. But it's gonna be in big words.
"IT IS OK TO SHIP WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SHIP, BUT THEY'RE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS AND HATRED TO THE CHARACTERS."
I HAVE SPOKEN!
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first off, no hate to this person or any of the people agreeing - at the end of the day, people have different thoughts/interpretations of star wars and its characters, so it's no big deal. but i just wanted to talk about this post/sentiment because i've seen it a lot in the fandom and i'm still new to SW. disclaimer that i'm actively watching TCW at the moment, so take my opinion with a grain of salt
i know most everyone is going to disagree with me on this, but to be kind of blunt, i feel like people like to be purposefully obtuse when it comes to anakin's characterization and it often seems to come from this place of trying to come off like an intellectual ('well *EYE* knew anakin was toxic/evil/a piece of shit the whole time ☝️🤓 ' type energy). i have various thoughts on this and i'm gonna start with the more nitpicky ones and then finish with what i think is the real reason we all disagree
for starters (again, this is just nitpicking) jedi do kill people and it's reasonable to think anakin has killed people prior to the tusken raiders just by nature of his position as a jedi (aggressive negotiations, etc etc). what makes it 'okay' is jedi, by nature of their beliefs, don't commit war crimes by killing the defenseless or innocents. but my point is that killing is already something he's likely done, whereas being a macho toxic fuckboy to his wife is not.
i guess your opinion on this next part of it varies depending on your thoughts when it comes to human nature/morals/whatever, but to ME at least, slaughtering a village because they enslaved and tortured his mother to death is definitely fucked up (because he also took out the innocents), but it's not the exact same thing as being abusive to his wife? like i'm not even trying to debate which one is worse either atp, i'm just saying both things are different and have different pathways of thinking to get to that point. with the tusken raiders, you can clearly see how anakin got there, even if it was wrong, fucked up and arguably evil when it came to the defenseless people he didn't know.
but putting those points aside, i think the main thing we're disagreeing on with the whole TCW characterization vs prequels characterization of anakin is the when of it all. like for ME (you're free to disagree), anakin's behavior of actively hurting padmé when he force choked her in ROTS was SUPPOSED to be 'out of character', and because of that it signaled that he was an evil sith lord that's now too far gone. that was the marker, right behind him killing the younglings. which people also do talk about when they're arguing about this topic:
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the difference in thought i'm having from this person is from MY personal perspective, from a story-telling technique/standpoint alone, i just don't like the idea of putting toxicity towards padmé before that marker (what he did in ROTS). it fucks with the whole classic myth type tragedy of it? anidala is supposed to be somewhat idealized even if something like that shouldn't be irl. that's why luke 'redeems' darth vader and brings him back through a mirror of padmé's love for him. we're supposed to recognize vader is a villain, yes, but we're also supposed to take from the story that padmé's love for him was worth it in the end. and that the circumstances of that situation in ROTS (and leading up to ROTS) created the perfect storm to cause anakin to 'fall' and become a sith lord. the tragedy of it is that he WOULD have kept being a good person, without that perfect storm of circumstances (grooming from palpatine, feelings of isolation from parental figures, being heralded as this chosen one, his own arrogance/passion, trauma from how his mother died, force visions plaguing him that he KNEW would come true like with the one of shmi's death, etc).
for ME, as a story, i like that anakin's push into evil is signified by the force choke. the youngling slaughter is definitely like "well, he's gone now", yeah, but when we see him choking the person he was fighting to save? a character we've been personally watching love him the entire movie? that's when we know anakin is lost. so to try and be like 'well, he was just like this all along' undermines that tragedy of this scene that i just talked about. that's why a lot of people don't like some of TCW anakin's characterization. because it undermines that over-arching story. is the prequels-trilogy darth vader story unrealistic to real life? yes, completely. but that star wars story is not supposed to mirror real life. in real life you would not tell luke skywalker to try and save a man who genocided people, destroyed a planet and upheld a dictatorship for one of the most evil men to ever exist. but you have to suspend some of your disbelief in order to enjoy the story. it's just art. and sure, it's 'valid' if you want to accept anakin's TCW version along with some of those scenes people critique. you're free to think he was just toxic and bad all along, but i just think that's a shame and i disagree personally because i don't like what it does with the flow of the story or the work of art that's both trilogies overall. something i think encapsulates it well is this quote written by matthew stover in the ROTS novelization:
"The dark is generous and it is patient and it always wins – but in the heart of its strength lies its weakness: one lone candle is enough to hold it back. Love is more than a candle. Love can ignite the stars.”
in this situation, the candle was anakin and padmé's love for each other, persisting in their son. and the message wasn't that anakin was toxic and evil all along? it was that their love persisted and it came back in the end because it couldn't be blotted out by evil or death.
you could even delve into the force choke scene deeper? it's really the perfect example of 'a storm of bad circumstances' that make it a tragedy. because no, there's NO excuse for what anakin did and at this point he has slaughtered actual children. him hurting padmé is 'evil'. however, (and i know nuance goes to die on the internet, which is part of why i'm writing this lmfao) from anakin's perspective, padmé had just brought obi-wan to kill him. it's not a justification but it does establish the length padmé had to go to (we as the viewer know she didn’t go to that point, but anakin does not know this) in order for anakin to be 'evil' and toxic with her. he had to think that padmé was actively trying to kill him in order to force choke her. and even AFTER he was burned alive and lost his limbs to obi-wan (someone he saw as a father figure), the first thing he thought when he came to was if padmé was alright. he still loved her. and at this point he still thought she wanted him dead and hated him. it took him thinking padmé wanted him dead and hated him for him to snap enough to force choke her?
so with that in mind, yeah, people are going to view anakin's characterization in regards to her in a specific way. some people prefer that that was his breaking point into evil towards her, because of the story it's attempting to tell with the original movies. and him being this macho man towards her over things smaller than that just doesn't feel organic to what we saw in the prequels and it doesn't seem consistent with the flow of that over-romanticized story being told.
people are free to disagree or not like that over-romanticized story (in fact many people don't? and that's one of the reasons why some people don't mesh with star wars or anidala) but i'm not sure why they're surprised some people don't like that clash of characterization between prequels anakin and TCW anakin. this gets even more complicated when you factor in how people didn't like how anakin was overly romantic and 'simp'-like and even hayden had backlash for his acting and just his existence in the role. so of course when making a cartoon for kids, that younger boys would probably be watching, they would distance themselves a bit from that romance vibe and make it more 'obvious' he's just darth vader
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vodika-vibes · 10 months
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Midday Blooms - Lilacs and Daffodils
Years after the Sith took control of Coruscant, the Coruscanti Citizens live on a series of Space Stations surrounding the planet, waiting for the day when they're allowed to return home. When it's safe to return home. The Clones, elite soldiers born of the DNA of Lord Jango Fett, make up the large majority of the fighting force, though not the entirety. And after it comes out that Lord Fett had elected to side with Count Dooku, a fallen Jedi Master, and that both men were pawns of none other than Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine, the men are freed from the chips, and any compulsions that would have them turn on the jedi, and the civilians they protect so ably. But even now the war rages on. The soldiers, and their Jedi Generals, rotate three month deployments to Coruscant, in the hopes that one day, they will be able to live on the planet that glitters over their heads. This is very tangentially a war story. Because I cannot write action. But I will do my best. Tagging: @starrrgazingbunny Ships: Marshal Commander Neyo x OC, Marshal Commander Bacara x OC
Nebula Space Station
Bell Manor - 10:00 am
“It’s only a matter of time,” Doctor Dee Bell said excitedly to his daughter as he waved his morning toast around over his head. He either didn’t notice, or didn’t care, that some of the jam had fallen off the bread and landed on his white jacket. “You’ll see, Talia! Someday soon, we’ll be able to resettle Coruscant.”
Talia shook her head in amusement, “Father, you’ve been saying that for years, and the soldiers are no closer to retaking Coruscant from the Sith today then they were when I was six,”
“Bah! That’s only because Lord Fett decided to throw his weight behind Dooku.”
“We’re fortunate that the Jedi figured out his plan before Palpatine enacted it,” Talia pointed out as she took a sip of her tea, and then made a face. Cold, yuck. “Though it’s a shame that Knight Skywalker decided to throw his weight behind Palpatine.”
“He’s an idiot. And he’s on the losing side.” Her father countered, “Why, even Senator Amidala has been denouncing his actions since the day he defected, and she’s the mother to his children.”
He trailed off as he finally remembered that he was in the middle of eating, and he took a bite of his, now plain, toast. And then he paused and squinted at Talia, “Don’t you have a Salon you’re supposed to go to today?”
“...No.” Talia lied, badly. Damn it, she was hoping he had forgotten about the Cunningham Salon. 
“Talia,”
Aw, man. The Disappointed Dad voice. 
“You cannot skip Betty’s Salon, she’s always so happy when you go and visit.”
“Yeah, but she’s awful.”
“She’s lonely.”
“She insults Ophelia constantly.”
“Maybe Ophelia deserves it.”
“Dad!”
“What? I know she’s your friend, but she is a bit of a wild child!”
“She’s calmed down a lot since we were in Finishing School, dad. You know she’s working at her father’s company now, right?”
“Is she really?” Her father looks surprised, “Huh, well. Even so, you should go get dressed for the party. You should wear the purple dress your grandmother bought you.”
“I look awful in purple.” Talia whined, acting much younger than her 22 years.
“Nonsense, you love purple. It’s your favorite color! And you look beautiful in it!”
“That’s worse! Betty will just accuse me of showing her up at her own Salon.”
“Nonsense. Now go and get dressed.”
Talia rolled her eyes, but allowed her father to propel her out of her seat and to the stairs. She supposed there was no way out of it now. Stupid dad actually remembering shit at inconvenient moments.
Still, it wouldn’t take her longer than, maybe, half an hour to get herself dressed and her hair and make-up done. Maybe she would go all out and put fresh flowers in her hair, rather than pulling it up into a fancy updo.
She would have to send Ophelia a message. Her best friend always was good at coming up with ways to make Betty look like the hag she was.
*********
Marshal Commander Neyo was not happy.
In his defense, he was rarely happy. Being a Marshal Commander often came with more responsibilities than rights, and he had spent the last three months on rotation on the front lines.
He was exhausted.
Down to his bones.
All he wanted to do was retire to the apartment the Government gave him, and sleep for the next 9 months, until his next rotation to Coruscant started.
But no.
He couldn’t.
Because Fucking Faie agreed to a fucking Salon.
He didn’t even know what a Salon was. A party of some kind, based on the fact that he was required to wear his dress uniform.
He scowled at the pure white uniform. It was perfect, of course, and covered in medals and awards that meant jack-shit in any real world scenario. He hated it. He was much more comfortable in his armor. Hell, even his blacks would be preferable to wearing that get-up.
“Don’t be such a grouch,” Faie said with a roll of his eyes. He was already wearing his dress uniform. “We’re going to be rubbing shoulders with high class ladies.”
Neyo considered shoving him out the window. He would probably get another medal of service for it.
“Lovely,” Bacara said in monotone, “Just how I wanted to spend my first day decompressing from battles. Schmoozing with the rich and lazy.”
“It’ll be fun.” Faie insisted.
“Your idea of fun used to be reading Reg manuals,” Neyo pointed out snidely.
Faie gasped, “He talks!”
The urge to shove him out the window got stronger. “Wow. It’s sad that you think you’re funny.” Neyo said.
Faie rolled his eyes again. Neyo hoped his eyes got stuck that way. “Look, we finally have rights. We might as well take advantage of them. Besides, Bly is coming too.”
Bacara’s fingers slipped on one of his buttons, “You managed to convince him to step away from General Secura long enough to flirt with rich ladies?”
“Of course not. General Secura ordered him to come.”
Oh. That made sense.
Wait-
“I thought Bly was about to rotate to Coruscant,” Neyo said absently, as though he was commenting on the weather.
“He was supposed to, but General Secura was injured, so her battalion and the Wolfpack switched places.” Bacara replied as he finished buttoning his jacket and made sure that his ribbons were straight, “Hurry up, Neyo. The sooner we get there, the sooner we can make our escape.”
Neyo was pretty sure that was a damned lie, but it was a nice lie, so he finally pulled his jacket on and started buttoning it. Stupid brothers. Always getting him involved in stupid shit.
Maybe there would be good food at this party, if nothing else.
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Talia stepped out of the speeder and thanked her father’s droid with a kind smile. She had been in luck, mother’s lilac bush was still in bloom, which meant she had been able to weave the delicate purple flowers through her braid.
And they matched her dress and sandals. One point for Talia and none for Harpy Betty.
She cast her gaze around, and a bright smile crossed her face when she saw Ophelia waiting for her. She looked annoyed, though no one else would think that, as her friend had mastered the art of hiding her emotions behind a fan.
Her entire face brightened, though, when she saw Talia. Ophelia snapped her fan shut, and stepped over to her. “Tali, darling, I thought you weren’t coming!” She hugged Talia tightly.
“Sorry, there was awful traffic by the spaceport.” Talia smiled warmly, her gaze lingering on the crown of daffodils that Ophelia had perched on top of her neat, platinum blonde, hair. “You decided on yellow, then?”
Ophelia stepped back and twirled for Talia, showing off her vibrant yellow dress, “Betty told me that yellow wasn’t my color due to my hair,” She said, “So I decided to be petty.”
Talia’s smile became so achingly fond as she regarded her best friend of twenty years, “You’re always petty.” She said, warmly.
“Pssh. You were the one who suggested real flowers, rather than ribbons.” Ophelia grinned, “I already got a comment about my daffodils, from Anne, of course.”
“Oh? What did she say?”
“That it was unbecoming of me to try and show up Betty at her own Salon.” Ophelia rolled her eyes, “I could wear a trash bag, and still show her up.” She hooked her arm with Talia’s and tugged her towards the garden entrance, “It’s because she has the personality of a sewer rat.”
The pair stepped into the garden, and were immediately overwhelmed by the scent of roses. “Ew.” Talia whispered, “Roses, really? And red ones?”
Ophelia leaned in, “I heard that she’s hunting for a husband.”
“At a Salon?”
“Mm. She invited some of the men who recently returned from Coruscant.” Ophelia replied, as she cast her gaze around the garden, “Though I doubt they’re here yet.”
“Oh, Talia you made it-” Betty hurried over and stopped, her gaze locked on the flowers in Talia’s hair, and then her gaze drifted to the flowers in Ophelia’s hair, “You made it.” She finished, sounding very annoyed. 
“There was awful traffic, Betty,” Talia said sweetly, like she had no idea that Betty was annoyed with her, “I suppose it makes sense with so many men returning from Coruscant yesterday.”
Betty flushed, the unheard condemnation heard loud and clear. “Ophelia, I’m surprised at you. Did I forget to mention how washed out yellow makes you look at my last Salon?”
Ophelia smiled winsomely, her yellow fan coming out and snapping open in front of her mouth and nose, “Mother made this dress for me, Betty. Surely you don’t expect me to disrespect her?”
Ophelia’s mother was a fashion designer of some renown. Well, she designed the gowns that the ladies of the senate wore on a daily basis, so “some” renown was rather an understatement. 
“Your mother should know better than to dress you in yellow,” Betty sniffed.
“I’ll be sure to mention it.” Ophelia replied. “Come along, Talia. I see Elizabeth over by the tea, and I’m sure that Betty has other people she needs to greet.”
Talia allowed Ophelia to direct her over to the tea table, where Elizabeth most assuredly wasn’t. The third part of their little trio from Finishing School stopped coming to these events as soon as she turned 18. With her mother’s blessing, of course.
Talia and Ophelia hadn’t been so lucky, tragically.
“Have you spoken to Elizabeth recently?” Talia asked as soon as Betty was out of earshot.
“I have, she’s met a man,” Ophelia grinned wickedly, “A soldier, named Gree. Apparently he’s as sweet as sugar and dotes on her.”
“I’m glad for her,” Talia said loyally.
“I think it’s boring.” Ophelia whispered as she handed a teacup to Talia, and then took one for herself.
“Hm. Have you heard from your gentleman lately?” Talia asked, innocently.
Ophelia looked disgruntled, “He returned yesterday, but he said that he had been roped into something today, so I’m not going to see him until tomorrow at the earliest.” 
“You poor thing. How will you survive?” Talia teased.
Ophelia shot her a look, and then her shoulders slumped, “I haven’t seen him in three months, and I wasn’t even able to greet him yesterday because he has responsibilities. It’s not even fair.”
“As if your father would okay you going to meet a man, any man, on your own.” Talia points out as she snags one of the picnic tables for them to share, “You’re lucky your mother approves.”
“Mother loves him. She’s been designing my wedding dress since I was three, of course.” Ophelia said warmly, “Of course, the moment she finds out that I’m already married, all bets are off.”
Talia laughed. She opened her mouth to say something when there was a commotion from the entrance of the garden.
*******
Neyo decided immediately that he hated roses. He hated the look and the scent. And he really, really hated the woman who dressed herself to look like a rose. Who was simpering over Faie like he deserved anything more than being shoved out a window.
At least most everyone else was dressed in more pastel colors. He saw several pinks, quite a few blues and greens, and more than one pastel yellow. This woman was the only one wearing wine red.
She stood out. And not in a good way.
“Neyo, this is Miss Betty Cunningham. This is her party,” Faie said, his glare practically screaming at him to be nice.
“Nice to meet you.” Neyo replied in a flat voice, everything about his screaming I don’t want to be here.
He took it as a victory when the red woman faltered under his unimpressed stare, and she turned to focus her attention on Bacara and Bly…neither of whom were paying attention to her.
Bly was staring at his chrono, likely wondering how long he had to remain at the party to not be seen as rude when he left. Neyo was sure that General Secura told him he had to stay for at least an hour.
Bacara, though-
Huh. Bacara was staring at something across the garden.
Neyo followed his gaze, and landed on a young woman, dressed in vibrant yellow, with yellow flowers in her hair. A young woman who was well aware of Bacara’s stare, as her face was glowing red. Her companion, a young woman in pastel purple with purple flowers in her hair, looked like she was trying not to laugh.
Neyo glanced over at his brother, who was now playing with something around his neck. That something, Neyo knew, was a wedding band. Something Bacara had admitted to him late one night, after a particularly bad day on Coruscant.
“You’re a fucking idiot,” Neyo hissed, “Go talk to your wife before she implodes.”
Bacara shot him a relieved look, and slipped away from the group of men, and across the garden. Laser focused on the yellow woman, who stood and greeted him with a tight hug.
Neyo was amused to note that the red woman flushed an angry shade of red when she saw that. He decided to take a note from his brother’s book in this case, and make a tactical retreat. 
Neyo found himself near the back of the garden, by a rather large, and gaudy looking, fountain. A fountain that was covered in red roses. What was with that woman?
“It’s hideous, isn’t it?” Neyo turned and flickered his gaze slightly down to regard the young woman standing several feet behind him, she smiled at him apologetically, “The Fountain, I mean.”
She stepped up next to him, her gaze remained locked on the fountain. She smelled softer, like the purple flowers in her hair. It was nice, compared to the overpowering scent of roses. “What is her obsession with roses?” Neyo asked.
She laughed, a bubbly noise that made Neyo want to make her laugh again. “The roses are new,” She said, once her laughter calmed, “Generally you can tell what kind of mood Betty is in based on the flowers she decorates her garden with.”
“And what do red roses mean?” Neyo asked warily.
“That she’s looking for a husband,”
Fuck.
She laughs again, and Neyo’s panic fades a little. “I don’t think you need to worry,” She reassures, “I think you intimidate her.”
“Thank fuck for that.” He paused, “Do I intimidate you?”
She released a thoughtful hum, and then looked up at him with a bright smile, “I’ve never been intimidated by a man in my life.”
That was…unfairly attractive, actually, Neyo decided after a moment of thought.
“Marshal Commander Neyo, of the 91st Battalion.” 
Her smile widened, “Talia Bell. It’s very nice to meet you, Commander.”
“Neyo.”
Delight flickered across her face, “Well then, it’s nice to meet you, Neyo.”
He decided, then and there, that he liked the way his name sounded on her tongue. Plans flickered through his mind, as his entire world shifted a little bit. “So, Talia,” He liked her name. It suited her, “What kind of flowers are these?” He brushed his fingers against one of the purple blossoms in her hair.
She considered him for a moment, and then she motioned for him to duck his head. Talia pulled a single blossom bunch from her hair, and lightly tucked it behind his ear, “They’re lilac blossoms,” She said, “And now we match.”
Well then.
A slow smile crossed his face, “If we match,” Neyo said slowly, his gaze locked on her face, “Then I suppose it’s okay for me to ask if you want to leave.”
She laughed, and leaned closer to him, the scent of lilacs swirled around them. “I know how to get to the back gate open,” Talia said brightly, “And there’s a nice little restaurant not far from here that has the best sandwiches on the station. If you’re interested?”
He was definitely interested. In more than just sandwiches. “It sounds like a good start,” He says instead, “Do you mind if I ditch the jacket at my barracks though?”
She shook her head, and then offered him her hand, her eyes sparkling in the midday sun. “Come on, Neyo. Let’s go have some real fun.”
Half made plans solidified into something solid. Something real.
Neyo smiled and took her hand, “Lead the way, Sarad.”
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baglsasha · 10 months
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Star Wars prequel revisionism is lame. Those movies suck ass and having fond memories of them from when you were a kid doesn't change that.
I loved them as a kid too, but god damn do they not hold up. I don't care how good the actual story they're telling is they're executed so poorly that without already having lore knowledge about what's going on there's next to 0 emotional impact.
Surrounded by yes men, George Lucas couldn't write a script to save his life, and he couldn't direct to save his life either. These movies barely even pass the fucking Turing test the dialogue and acting is so stilted.
Also the sequel trilogy not being great does not retroactively make the prequels good. They're both bad (tho the prequels are significantly worse). I see a lot of people trying to frame it as the prequels being non-corporate cinema, George Lucas telling his true vision! Vs Corporate Disney Star Wars garbage. But like, the prequels are as corporate as it gets. The original trilogy cash cow was starting to dry up and Lucas wanted money. He shat the scripts out quickly and got to work on putting together a product that could be intensely merchandised to line his pockets.
There's good ideas in the prequels, concepts that if portrayed well, in smarter scripts, with better directing, would've been fantastic! But those concepts weren't done well because they're lazily written garbage because the primary goal in making them was to make a lot of money...
Imo Clone Wars (cartoon) being a solid (sometimes fantastic!) as it is/was does a lot of emotional heavy lifting for the prequels. If you go into Revenge of the Sith having watched that series Anakin's story really does feel more heart wrenchingly tragic... but without another piece of media that actually has Anakin as a well written and acted character we come to like, if you watch that movie on its own terms without supplemental knowledge, there is 0 emotion. We're almost never shown Anakin and Obi Wan's friendship and Anakin just comes off as a weird creepy asshole. Also his fall is intensely rushed to the point of absurdity. No amount of clone wars solves that. (Seriously the man goes from "what have I done" to "yes lord Sidious I will slaughter children" in about 5 seconds...)
They're just shit movies.... I honestly would love to see them remade. I don't really trust disney to do that well, but it'd be cool if we did have a good version of Anakin's story.
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anyone from imp int that appears semi regularly in the agent story (watcher two/shara jenn, keeper, etc?) mayhaps?
They're both characters I find really interesting. I'd say it's surprising they haven't put any fic appearances (other than Keeper informing Kyrian over holo that he's being arrested for treason), except that I haven't done that much with Kyrian's career when he's not out in the field actively coloring outside the lines.
Well, I do have a couple of Keeper mini-fics. LIke I said, interesting character. He's not a character type you often get on the "bad" side, being more of an "M" or...what's his name on Stargate SG1...Hammond than the sort of leader you normally see in the Empire. He clearly cares about the people who work under him, even if he's able to send them into deadly danger, exile them to Shadow Town, or worse...when necessary. He's a very effective combination of "good authority figure" and "did what I had to do/made the hard (but necessary) decisions."
If I do go back and fill in more of Kyrian's career, or write any Pheodra fics, he's likely to put in more appearances. Getting a little insight into why he ignored concerns about Kyrian for as long as he did (besides that Kyrian tended to succeed where it really mattered) could be fun. The game writing suggests that Keeper sees something of himself in a light side agent, and I've carried that over to ficverse. Of course, Keeper remained loyal to the Empire, despite its flaws, and gained the hardness and big picture thinking that Kyrian...did not.
Watcher Two is...hm, how to phrase it... She's more unquestioningly Imperial than Keeper, but that's unsurprising considering she was literally designed by the Empire. That she still came out a decent coworker/boss is more surprising. Her soft spots are different from Keeper's, and somewhat more personal, but she lacks his experience (I'm pretty sure he was Imperial military before his Imp Int career. Or is that just my headcanon?) and she rises in the ranks at nearly the worst possible time, given how quickly the Sith wreck everything.
Hm, actually I think the most interesting stuff with her, as far as the game story goes, comes later. Which means that if she were to appear in fic beyond giving mission info or taking a post-mission briefing, it'd probably be if I fic stuff with Pheodra. (Who, to her irritation, inherits Kyrian's designation and mission. She is cypher agent material; it was clear in training that he would never be.)
Then again, Watcher Two is so much more what a member of Imperial Intelligence should be than Kyrian, it could be interesting to give them a chance to interact around that. Especially as it's clear Kyrian did trust her (and Keeper) more than was wise. That means some discussion of methods is possible, or other concerns. Hell, she's observant enough--and close enough to being a coworker, rather than a superior--that she might pick up on his doubts about whether he is cypher agent material. (Okay, he knows he's not, he's just trying to do the job anyway. And dreading the eventual training he's certain he'll fail.)
Which raises the question of what Keeper (and Watcher Two, for that matter) thought of their skilled but squeamish field agent who'd been promoted way too soon. Did Keeper think that field experience would eventually file off his soft edges and make him cypher material? Are there aspects of cypher training that would make his flaws irrelevant? Was Keeper going to quietly demote him back to normal field agent once the crisis was over? Let him continue indefinitely as an untrained, field promoted cypher agent? (I mean, obviously, he had field agent training. But that's not the same thing.)
Was part of Watcher Two's job deciding what would be best to do with Kyrian once the crisis was over?
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tennessoui · 2 years
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Okay but in the jnfideltuy au anakin def seems to get the rougher end of the deal since both padme and his kids react badly to the discovery of his affair. I think their affair should cause a scandal for Obi wan’s career to even things out... & then when satine sees that Obi wan & anakin are able to weather through the scandal & come out stronger the other side... that’s when she realizes this is IT for them. It’s the real thing & they’re not just gonna get bored of each other after a year or 2
honestly i think you're right in that anakin lost his wife and you know for a bit his kids were mad (when they were 19 and pretty much obi-wan's kids at that point though too) (but they also get over it) (and well. it's his fault he married for love, the fool)
but i'm not sure how much i want to even things out. i think that's a sort of trope/relationship i haven't really explored much in fics where they're not absolutely evil and despicable people: the trope of "ever since i met you, everything in my life maybe even me has gotten objectively worse but i can't imagine losing you or not knowing you anymore"
like when they're not evil megalomaniacs like in my Sith aus or in pbatmb, when they're just two dudes doing the wrong thing but falling in love....yeah i actually really like that sort of unevenness.
but if you want to i guess obi-wan can lose a re-election or something? it can't be a big scandal that connects him with anakin, because the public can't know about their less than savory beginnings or the twins would grow up hearing about it and i do like them realizing way later, after the families have already split and morphed and merged weirdly. another element of 'i am shocked and mad that this is how this happened but also i cannot imagine my life is i wasn't half raised by two dads when i wasn't spending time with mom.'
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murder-and-mayhem · 1 year
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ok I just remembered I liked that emoji ask post you reblogged yesterday to come back and send you an ask lmao SO, for any oc(s!!!!!) you want: 👁️, 💥, 🌙, 🙈, 🌌, ✏️ , 💘 (and if that’s too many just pick your faves of course!!)
OMG YAY!!! I'm so sorry it took me so long to post these. Work has been BRUTAL lately and it took me a minute to get my thoughts organized on these, but thank you so much for the asks! I'm gonna post them below the cut so people don't have to scroll through my wall of text because....well, you know me.
👁️ - What color are their eyes? Do people notice their eyes? Is there anything special about them (shows emotion easily, literally magical...)?
Jaidys/Torvahl - Both mother and son have very striking silver-blue eyes—nearly white they're so pale.
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While Jaidys' eyes are one of her more prominent features, they often aren't the first thing people notice about her. Her appearance is a little eccentric for a Sith considering she favors all-white clothing and blatantly displays her slave brands. However, when people do look into her eyes it is a deeply unsettling experience. Her gaze is cruel, cold, and unyielding, leaving you with the sickening feeling that you are being stalked by a predator.
Torvahl inherited Jaidys' strange eye color, however where his mother's eyes hold malice, Torvahl's are distinctly kind. When he was younger he absolutely hated his eyes. Anything that reminded him of Jaidys filled him with absolute dread, and he assumed that others would only ever see a Sith when they looked at him. This was especially true when he first arrived on Tython. Imagine his shock when he arrived at the temple only to find out that he was actually rather...boring. Basically just another run-of-the mill human, and he was thrilled. He does get a lot of compliments on his eyes since they're his most noticeable feature. It always makes him happy to know that people find them warm and comforting instead of instilling the fear that Jaidys' gaze always inflicted.
💥 - What emotions do they have trouble dealing with?
Lizseth - Lizseth does not handle guilt well. At all. When she finds out the galaxy has gone to hell after her five year stint in carbonite, she is convinced that it's entirety her fault and the thought makes her physically ill. She feels like she abandoned her companions, her friends, her husband...everyone. Even though she knows that her imprisonment was beyond her control, it doesn't stop her from hating herself for not fighting harder.
In order to function, she essentially has to shut down all emotion, but she isn't as good at it as she thinks she is. As Alliance Commander, she takes every loss personally, and Lana and Theron worry about her constantly. When she slowly begins to reunite with her companions, her heart bleeds for the suffering they went through.
This is especially true for Torian.
When they finally have a moment alone on Darvannis, it takes him clutching her face in his hands and practically shaking her before he gets her calm down long enough to listen to him.
It wasn't her fault. It never was.
🌙 - What is your OC's greatest wish? How far are they willing to go for it?
Torvahl - Torvahl's greatest wish is to be reunited with his sister, despite knowing that there's a high chance she isn't the person that he remembers. He vehemently believes that at the very least he owes her an explanation for leaving her all those years ago, even if she refuses to forgive him—or worse, tries to kill him. It's a wish that he harbors in secret. The Jedi Council would hardly approve of him hunting down a Sith during his scarce moments of downtime, and more importantly wanting to reconnect with her goes against the Jedi Code. So, how far is he willing to go? His sister is important enough for him to break the very Code he's sworn to and risk his place among the Jedi, however he wouldn't put the lives of others at risk to make it happen. If anyone has to face the threat of death or exile it will be him and him alone.
🙈 - What's a side of your OC that they don't want to show other people?
Sehlaan - It may be cliché, but she struggles with showing vulnerability in any capacity, including her love life. She was raised to believe that any show of weakness was a death sentence—a belief that was often proven true, especially during her time at the Academy and during her apprenticeship. When she's on the battlefield, her stoicism is a virtue. She knows from experience that leading armies demands that she be a pillar of strength and resolve. Any crack in her façade could tank morale as well as put her ability to lead into question. This was especially true during the operation on Yavin-4 and during her leadership of the Alliance. One false move while commanding an army composed of two warring factions would have killed both endeavors in their infancy.
It's a different story when it comes to her relationships—both platonic and romantic. Her stubborn refusal to relinquish control and just allow herself to be a human being often did more harm than good. After being burned during her relationship with Malavai Quinn, she was determined to never let anyone worm their way under her skin again. Then she met Arcann, and she slowly began to open up in order to help him heal. She found it was easier to be herself around him, which in turn allowed her to open up in her friendships with Lana, Jaesa, and Theron. Sehlaan still has days where she struggles, but it's easier to remind herself that she doesn't have to be perfect all of the time—that she is allowed to have moments of doubt and to feel insecure.
🌌 - What was the inspiration behind your OC? What was the first thing you decided about them?
Sehlaan - I don't know if I had any particular inspiration for Sehlaan. She just kind of came to life in the character creator, and the more I fleshed her out in-game the more I loved her. The first things I decided about her? I knew that she would 100% be played neutral and eventually lean towards more light-side choices in a nice redemption arc. I also had her family tree sorted pretty much immediately. I knew she was going to be the daughter of my SI, and that she would have a Jedi brother.
✏️ - Is there a particular quote/lyric that you associate with them?
Jaidys - "A smiling face draped over stone cold eyes / reflecting a fire, fueled with lies" — "Vaudeville" by Priest
Lizseth - "She's a Killer Queen/ Gunpowder, Gelatine/ Dynamite with a laser beam/ Guaranteed to blow your mind" — Killer Queen by Queen (of course)
Sehlaan - "The darkness was a cocoon / Just like the moth, I escape the gloom / A sparkle deep within / Let out the flame that begot me to win" — "The Pit" by Priest
Edge lord lyrics probably but ✨oh well ✨
💘 - What traits do they look for in a relationship? Do they believe in love at first sight?
Sehlaan - Sehlaan does not believe in love at first sight. At all. She believes that you need to truly know the good and the bad that comes with a person—all of their quirks and annoying habits, the things that keep them up at night and the traumas that come into the relationship with them—otherwise you are simply in love with a façade. It's one of the reasons she and Arcann work so well together. She knows him inside and out, and every day she chooses to love the good and the bad that comes with him just as he does with her.
When it comes to relationships, she looks for comfort and solace. To her, being with your partner should feel like home no matter where you are in the galaxy. She also looks for a solid friendship in her partner. If she can't find common ground with a person and enjoy their company platonically, throwing romance/sex into the mix would only be a recipe for disaster.
Lizseth - Lizseth doesn't believe in love at first sight either. In her eyes, love at first sight is a prettier way to justify pure animal attraction. There's nothing wrong with lust. She just believes that there's a lot more work required than simply looking at someone and deciding you love them.
When it comes to partners, Lizseth wants someone who can make her laugh. If the person she's interested in has no sense of humor, she doesn't even waste her time. She also craves intimacy in all of its forms, despite being a bit of a hard ass in most other aspects of her life. She wants to be wooed by her partner—though not necessarily in the traditional sense of the word. She enjoys a good game of cat and mouse in her relationships. This means flirting, teasing, lingering touches, and heated glances—the thrill of the chase even if she's already in a committed relationship with that person. It all boils down to the fact that Lizseth needs to feel wanted. The moment she feels like she's a burden to someone, the relationship crashes and burns.
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Okay, so the first question I think you're asking is whether I believe Obi-Wan being accused of struggling a lot with attachments comes from his actions on Mustafar in ROTS or whether it comes from his choices about what he tells Luke regarding Vader during the OT.
Personally, I'd probably say it's the Mustafar scene, perhaps combined with some of the other scenes he has in ROTS with Anakin. I've had someone argue with me that Obi-Wan saying he's "on Anakin's side" when they're discussing the Council not making Anakin a Master means that Obi-Wan is saying he believes Anakin SHOULD be a Master and that the Council is being unreasonable, and I've seen people accuse Obi-Wan of being soft on Anakin specifically because of the way he acts in ROTS and the way he defends Anakin to Mace and Yoda.
I don't really agree with EITHER of these interpretations, I think Obi-Wan saying he's on Anakin's side just means that he understands what Anakin is feeling and that just because he (and the Council) are frustrated with this latest decision doesn't mean that they're actively working AGAINST Anakin for any reason. And I think that Obi-Wan is plenty hard on Anakin in both AOTC and during early TCW seasons and that his defense of Anakin and softer attitude in ROTS is an indication that Obi-Wan is choosing to have FAITH in Anakin and that Anakin will ultimately make the right choice which is an indication of growth from his more helicopter parent style in AOTC, but he still recognizes that Anakin has flaws and is making mistakes.
It also doesn't help that the Matthew Stover ROTS novelization has Obi-Wan literally admit that he'd save Anakin at any cost and condemn the Jedi for asking Anakin to spy on Palpatine, saying that he doesn't think Anakin SHOULD trust them again after that (one of those reasons I'm not super interested in reading the book, regardless of how pretty its prose is).
So yeah, I think that most of the accusations about Obi-Wan being attached to Anakin come via ROTS (film and novelization). That interpretation of them then gets APPLIED to the scene in the OT where he is telling Luke he needs to prepare for the possibility that he might have to kill Anakin. This is where you get the interpretation that Obi-Wan recognizes that he was too attached to Anakin to kill him and that Luke cannot make his same mistake. But the root of it I think comes from ROTS, not ROTJ.
The second question you are asking me is, in an AU version of ROTS where Yoda DOES manage to kill Palpatine and Obi-Wan knows it, would he actually kill Anakin. And I still think the answer is no. It's actually even MORE likely to me that he wouldn't because now he KNOWS no one's coming to save Anakin, he KNOWS Anakin is absolutely 100% going to die from his injuries here, so he really has no motivation to go for a mercy kill any more than he did before. It's still going to be insanely painful for him to do even that much, it's still going to feel basically impossible to kill someone he loves, and now that Anakin is unarmed and refusing to ASK for mercy, it is still murder to make that final blow (which is made even worse if Obi-Wan knows that he doesn't HAVE to because Palpatine's already dead). I think the only way I could see Obi-Wan going for a mercy kill is if the opposite were true and he DID know that Yoda failed and that Palpatine was on his way. Because NOW he has a motivation to try to keep Palpatine from being able to save Anakin and keep at least ONE Sith from continuing to live and wreak havoc on the galaxy. Of course then, whether you'd consider it a MERCY kill or not is kind-of questionable. He isn't really doing it for Anakin's sake, it's not truly mercy that's forcing his hand here. It's a quicker death for Anakin, which is abstractly merciful, but Obi-Wan is killing him for the sake of the galaxy at large, not for Anakin himself.
Finally, while I agree that Mace would've killed Palpatine had Anakin not shown up to stop him, I don't consider it a waste of time in the narrative. This scene IS the narrative, this is literally the whole climax of the entire trilogy, what everything we've seen so far has to been leading towards. THIS is where Anakin chooses to be Darth Vader, THIS is where he betrays the Jedi, THIS is where the Republic falls. Without this scene and Anakin's reaction, there IS NO narrative. Anakin making this choice in this scene IS THE WHOLE NARRATIVE. That's not a waste of time. And if we're speaking more from an in-universe perspective, it's not like Mace stops doing what he's doing to talk to Anakin, either, he's still blocking the lightning the entire time and reflecting it back at Palpatine and as soon as he has the opportunity, he goes for the killing blow. So he's not wasting time at all, this arguably would've taken the exact same amount of time if Anakin hadn't shown up.
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sunderedazem · 2 years
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47 for my favorite OT3 plz
47. Does either/any of them have a secret that could potentially ruin their relationship? - Pairing: Lana/Theron/Corrain
Oh. Oh boy, you just HAD to ask. This one's gonna hurt, and it involves War Crimes, so...buckle up, I guess XD
Yes. Yes, one of them does. And no - it's not Lana, with the Rishi Maneuver, or Theron, with the Zildrog Fakeout. It's Corrain.
So, you remember how Corrain - a la Jedi Knight Story - gets captured by the Emperor, and then in the Moonrise legacy is not only broken, put under Castellan mind control, and left there to suffer for over a year and a half? Well, that's not quite everything that happened to him. See, Vitiate couldn't resist having such a powerful Jedi without playing with him a little bit. So...he trained Corrain (an unwilling participant, of course) as a weapon of destruction, and then specifically reserved him for mass casualty events or other high-profile war crimes.
See, while Scourge was the Emperor's Wrath and his personal executioner, that was an honor reserved for Sith, occasional high-ranking Imperials, and personal enemies of Vitiate's. Corrain, however, became known as Lord Lune, the Emperor's Blade - and his role was, essentially, to commit Vitiate's war crimes for him. Vitiate and Chaskar, Corrain's handler, took a particular delight in ordering their New Toy to massacre contentious civilian populations, or publicly execute captured Republic POWs and Jedi, or worse. It got to the point that within a year of Corrain's Fall and enslavement by the Emperor, most of the Dark Council and Imperial military knew and feared rumors of Lord Lune's involvement anywhere within Imperial Territory, and even most of the Republic's high-ranking officials knew of the Blade's existence. Corrain does eventually build up enough of a resistance to reject direct commands - and is promptly subverted again, with an implanted shock collar that's wired into his nervous system. It's a losing battle for him until Orgus appears and tells him to trust Scourge.
This sort of horror severely fucked with Corrain's head and massively contributed to his instability upon escaping from Vitiate's grasp, and it absolutely shatters his ability to trust anyone. Therefore he never, EVER mentions the Castellan restraints conditioning, and he even MORE never mentions that once upon a time he was the Emperor's most brutal, callous tool.
This, understandably, is something that not only would shock both Theron and Lana upon discovering it, but also absolutely nauseate them - both for the fact that Corrain literally has about a hundred War Crimes that he's committed, and that he was physically incapable of stopping each atrocity as it was ordered. Like, how the hell would you sleep, knowing that someone you love was one secret keyword command away from murdering everyone you knew and sobbing through the whole thing because he wouldn't be able to stop himself? How the hell could you forgive them for keeping something this huge - and this potentially compromising - a secret from you?
They do eventually find out, however, and it is in the worst possible scenario. Darth Malgus uses Corrain's keyword against him and then, when Corrain tries to fight it, presses on that conditioning track hard enough that Corrain has a massively life-threatening seizure, and then kidnaps him. Lana and Theron do get their boy back, but they're forced to fight and subdue him to make it happen, and Corrain doesn't recover from the physical and psychological toll for a long time afterward. They end up coming to terms with it separately while he's recovering - for Lana it's a little easier than for Theron - and with Elennye's guidance, finally help him to undo the conditioning.
It's only after that that Corrain finally comes completely clean with them, and it's only by virtue of their emotional attachment to him and the clear toll that the entire thing had taken on him over the years that prevents them from splitting. As it is, it takes them months to forgive him.
If this revelation had happened at literally any other time (this is post KOTXX and at the tail end of my canon-divergent arc, for context) Theron likely would have divorced them both and gone back to the Republic on permanent holiday, and Lana quite probably would have simply taken it upon herself to end Corrain's misery - and the threat he posed to the wider galaxy - as gently as she could.
And for his part, Corrain wouldn't have stopped either of them.
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Your tags are phenomenal. I want to make popcorn and watch the drama of this crossover play out 👀🍿
Thank you!
Grab a snack (or seven) and something to drink because this will take a while...
In MCU Loki has Magic™ and is a shapeshifter. Either could be substituted by Star Wars equivalents, the Force and Loki being a shapeshifting species such as Shi'ido, but that seems a bit boring. So maybe Loki was brought into the Jedi Order later in his life and somehow is also a long lived human (it's debatable, but no one wants to question it) or just sneaks off to learn things. Or they're just from a planet where there was a Force event chaos some thousand or more years earlier that affected the surviving population.
(tossing in the "read more" bit because I went wild)
Now, aside from Loki just coming up to Obi-Wan and telling him he's not ready for a padawan yet and practically running off with screaming Anakin, (she still has bite scars on her right arm from that event) and their subsequent shenanakins, it just doesn't seem enough to take only Loki and throw them into a different universe.
The depths of Coruscant are obscure, many gangs fighting with each other, consequences of which are felt across the stars by many. One of such gangs, though more of a spy operation of sorts that keeps tabs of everything happening alongside but out of the scopes of the Republic Intelligence Agency, is headed by a guy codenamed Fury. A strange guy with seemingly strange powers, as if seeing through walls and things before they happen. It's quite known he hates the Jedi Master Loki, if only for the insistency of the Jedi on screwing up Fury's work. Loki thinks it's hilarious.
Anakin, the insecure and anxious child wants to learn about the Force far beyond the things taught to padawans in the Jedi Temple. Loki thinks it's hilarious to send her padawan to sneak into the holocron vault. After all, they had done it before! Cannot be that hard. It takes Anakin four tries and a threat to one of his peer to finally get through unnoticed. Obi-Wan is relieved Loki took Anakin as his padawan instead.
You cannot take Count Dooku into custody when you don't know which one is the right one. Anakin thought it amusing to lock up his own master in one of the cells in the Temple, up until Loki was finally let out and somehow made all of Anakin's clothes neon pink and poisonous green. Anakin would do it again.
There are infuriatingly many accounts of the chancellor's fateful visit to Chandrilla. No one an exactly tell what happened either, if only because Loki tells a different story each time and Anakin, as the dutiful padawan he is, defers to his master. A few themes are in common with most official version. Chancellor died (a result no one but a single conspiracy group denies) and apparently a terrorist group was involved. If either of the chaotic master & padawan duo were to tell the truth it was that an assassin from Bando Gora wanted to sacrifice the chancellor to fuel a dark side ritual, which involved manually killing him with a knife. Loki thought the debris from administrative building would not hit the chancellor, something Anakin may or may not have been responsible for, but it didn't work. Both of them found it all the more hilarious when upon searching the late politician's things revealed rather suspicious items linking him to the Sith. Anakin may have been only 16 at the time, but Loki, irresponsible as he is, took them both for drinks.
Loki's homeworld is probably called Asgard or some fancy version of it. They also have a brother! Unless Thor is relevant to the story, their relation is similar or maybe even a bit worse than in MCU. The planet could be somewhere in the unknown regions, perhaps one hyperspace jump away from Ilum. Could be rich in Kyber crystals too, since in the first Thor movie Asgard is shown to have completely crystal bottom.
In part, Loki's chaotic demeanour is their comping mechanism. They'd be like that no matter what, really, but it is there. It takes Anakin several years in her constant company to see through it. Loki is broken, his heart shattered over people they had loved only for them to die or push Loki out of their lives. And in that grief Anakin sees himself. Anakin learns to cope better than he would with a traditional Jedi.
When Loki heard of the fate of Anakin's mother, left on Tatooine in slavery, he takes a deep breath and Anakin learns quite a few new curse words from languages across the galaxy. Then he learns how to steal a Jedi ship from under the noses of the council.
Feel free to add more...
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brotherskywalker · 8 months
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Ahsoka ep. 2
Watched Ahsoka ep. 2 last night.
My wife keeps pausing it every few seconds to complain about something... We are only ten mins into the episode!
My wife: Since when could Star Wars travel to other galaxies? Do they not not know how huge galaxies are?
My wife: Even if it took like 2 days to get from Coruscant to Tatooine it would take like 100 years to get to another galaxy!
My wife: This is like sending a criminal to the moon instead of a prison. It is so prohibitively expensive and dumb!
My wife: Why the fuck would they banish Thrawn to ANOTHER GALAXY???
My Wife: this is the worst Mandalorian armor ever. It doesn't even cover her body.
My wife: If she's a padawan again she should have left a braid when she cut her hair.
My wife: (about Hera) Why does she have red lipstick? Maybe she's half-human?
My wife: (watching Sabine and Hera woodenly talking) This is a weird show.
My wife: (watching Baylan's hologram) Is this normal hologram technology? It doesn't seem right to me. It's like they're made out of that paint from Foundation....
Show abruptly ends.
My wife: That was so boring!
Not off to a good start, Ahsoka. Two episodes in and we're barely holding it together. I know we are missing a fair amount of backstory for these characters because neither of us have seen, or want to see, the cartoons... but I feel like a good show would bridge that gap. Introduce them to us anew, but with nods to their original canon for the fans of the cartoons. I don't feel like we've gotten that. I feel like we've got a lot of very wooden actors who are all a little fake.
So far the plot is very very thin and uninteresting. We both really dislike all these Jedi/Sith suddenly popping up who were apparently alive and well during the original trilogy and just... for whatever reason... not around. Not helping. Not even apparently hiding? Just not around. It feels really weird and lazy. And worse is that now that they're all moving around and engaging and stuff, the original trilogy characters (like Luke and Leia) who would be front and foremost regarding all of this, are no where to be seen. If this is set after The Mandalorian/Book of Boba Fett then Ahsoka and Luke are aquatinted. Why isn't there at least a throw away line like, "I told Luke about it but he can't come" or something, ughhhhh.
I want to love it. I love seeing a bunch of badass female characters interacting and being cool... they're just not fleshed out enough for me.
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rojaceartandgaming · 2 years
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Finally fully explaining my Star Wars OCS! Which reminds me I should restart the fanfic based on them
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The Krezek siblings - twins, Tolkaron and Ki'xan, and their younger sibling Xian - were born into an Imperial ruled galaxy to a traveling couple. Well, they mainly truely started to travel and evade who they could across the stars when the elder duo's force abilities bacame clear. They knew that their children wouldn't be safe with them, knew that the Inquisitors would be on their tail. Luckily, they met a wandering Jedi who had survived the fall of the republic, who reluctantly agreed to watch over the three and train them in the ways of the force. To keep them safe.
It's unclear what happened to their parents, but one can assume they were killed
Hidden in exile, the twins trained. Xian showed no real ability in the force, nor even an interest, but was still a fighter. They just sort of learned and did their own thing whilst the other two worked on their training.
It all went well until the Empire caught up with them and removed their master from life, forcing them to run and continue their learning elsewhere. The twins were about 17 at the time, Xian 13 due to a recent birthday. Who let the thirteen year old have a blaster? No idea. Me I guess.
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Tolkaron, in their travels, had found an ancient Sith Holocron. Already a bad sign. He had been tempted by the dark side before, and things got worse from there. It came to a head when the twins' bickering turned to a real fight. There - both of them scarred for life - parted ways.
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Ki'xan lived and lives a life in exile. Traveling the worlds, evading those they can. During the rule of the empire they often aided people in need or discretely aided the Rebellion. She still harbors anger towards his twin, and has vowed to end him or save him, if the latter is at all possible. They're more of a Gray Jedi. Now as the war is over, he intends to focus fully on that goal
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Tolkaron managed to find a lone Sith, not long into his solo travels. How? I don't know, I need to make them as an oc. It'll be fun. That Sith became his master, but Tolkaron harbored resentment towards himself and his master. He regrets causing his family to be ripped apart, and longs for the past. He hated the Empire, and cared not who he needed to cut down in his ever-constant pursuit of knowledge. Now, their master has recently been found dead and with the war being over, they intend to find their siblings.
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Unfortunately the two force users kind of accidentally left Xian behind. Good job. 10/10, OCS of mine. They ended up not really ever caring about the light side vs dark side chaos, nor the rebellion vs the empire. They preferred the gray area and got a taste for the chaos it brought. Despite their young age, they became a clever and fast - and wanted bounty hunter. They love a good bit of chaos, and really the war ending didn't affect their life much. They don't like that their cybernetic arm is fitted wrong and makes their arms all uneven.
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