#911 discourse

[winterslaydier]

this is gonna get me crucified but for the last few seasons I’ve been hoping they’d kill Bobby off, not because I didn’t like him but because it’s a drama show and I want to watch drama happen. I also feel like there’s a strong chance Peter Krause just wanted to retire the man is almost 60 let him have his peace. yall take this show too serious

[newtkelly]

here’s what i think. i think that if you watch a drama about first responders who risk their lives on a daily basis, but you watch it because you think it’s a slow burn romance because someone online told you it was, and then you turn around and claim that the show is “making fun of you” or “laughing in your face” or being “cruel to the fandom” - well, i think you’ve probably convinced yourself that this show is something that it isn’t.

people die. firefighters die. and you know what, babies and children die. to think that bobby’s beautiful full-circle story was anything but carefully crafted - we’re not watching the same show. like, we can’t be. you’re watching edits on tiktok. you’re watching week to week and clinging to anything that feeds the machine. 9-1-1, from season one (skipped by many apparently, which is a damn shame), has never shied away from the darkness of the human existence, and it never will. this show isn’t what you’ve told yourself it is. there’s nothing to be afraid of, though - you can enjoy darkness, you can appreciate it. no one is pranking you. no one is laughing at you. you can enjoy it for what it is. think your own thoughts.

[unsaidace]

watching the way 9-1-1 journalists operate makes me really want to be a tv journalist. the bar is so low I could actually do a better job.

it’s bizarre how rude they are. the one who was trashing Fire Country and saying she was only “marginally interested” anyway? okay, so they should cater their show to someone who barely gives a shit?

that’s not how real critics express displeasure with a show or its storyline. hope they start getting blacklisted 🤞

Yeah, the lack of impartiality is both concerning and annoying. A lot of this fandom’s “journalists” are Buddies who use interviews to further their agenda. The only truly good interview I’ve seen recently was Lou’s interview with Katey, because she actually focused on the episode and how it furthers Tommy’s story. She only mentioned ships where it was relevant, she didn’t mention fanon theories, she stuck to what the episode actually showed us and how the plot influenced Lou’s portrayal of his character. Max and Lizzie very obviously use their jobs to push the Buddie agenda, whether the episode “supports” their theories or not (hint; it never does).

[moonydanny]

Since we're seeing BoBs complaining ✨️again✨️ about Tommy being a pallbearer, let's just think for a second.

It's been pointed out before a million times that it's customary to have members of a Captain's house carry the coffin, that's why it's not Harry or May. Next.

"But Tommy isn't in Bobby's house, it makes no sense." If we're using that argument, Eddie also shouldn't be a pallbearer because, at the moment, he's not a member of the 118. Next.

"But Tommy didn't even really know Bobby." Babes, we can't keep having to quote canon, on-screen moments that prove this wrong every time just because you ppl watch the show with your eyes closed and your ears plugged. Next.

"Well, why don't they put another random firefighter from the 118, then?" 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Okay. Let's put on our thinking hats for a second. Who is the General Audience going to be less surprised to see in that spot? A random firefighter who we've never seen before ('cause they've never even been consistent with the last names of the background firefighters, let's be real)? Or the recurring character who:

Was an OG member of Bobby's first crew at the 118 and who spent months under his command.

Was a key element in saving Bobby and Athena from the cruise ship last year.

Was a part of the most recent, two-part emergency where he was a key element in saving Bobby's crew.

Dated Bobby's pseudo-son for 6 months.

Bobby *verbatim* said was good people and good for Buck.

Has been mentioned constantly, even in episodes he wasn't in, keeping him in the audience's mind.

Seriously? WHO makes more sense? A random person we've never seen or the character who was literally in the previous episode who has many connections to Bobby, even beyond their own personal one?

Like, be for fucking real. BoBs, babes, you just don't want to see Tommy 'cause you hate him. JUST SAY THAT instead of trying to pull dumb empty arguments from your asses. At least that way you people would be honest. 🙄🙄

[louferrignojrofficial]

no because what is this

[nquesoxlies]

When a firefighter dies, their house carries the coffin. It's tradition. Tommy was 118 with Bobby as his Captain whether you like it or not.

It is not disrespectful.

The family NEVER carries the casket during a first responder's funeral. It's all about the ceremony. Not to mention, the casket is placed on the firetruck. They are not going to let a civilian do that.

[tommybucked]

Sometimes I think that bvddies forget that we don’t actually write the show. Like… “why is Tommy at the funeral” or “nobody wants to see Tommy ew” etc etc like… you know we didn’t put him there right? The show that you claim is hinting bvddie is the one one who put him there…

[tevanbuckley]

"no character has ever been confirmed straight, you're just making assumptions."

look, even if this was completely accurate, okay, and? for a start most straight people do not go through life announcing their sexuality because rightly or wrongly it is treated as the default, it's not exactly weird for fiction to mirror this.

but also, they are not real, i can't stress enough how much they don't exist, they've no actual interior self to hide or express. they're little facsimiles we're supposed to make assumptions about based on how they're presented to us.

[fiona-fififi]

The argument that the GA doesn’t tune in for character development, and therefore, everything 911 is doing is a-okay is so baffling to me.

Because, first of all, plenty of members of the GA ARE invested in the characters. The fact that people tune in but don't participate in fandom does not mean they don't care about anything other than emergencies and disasters and action.

But second of all, this is not an either or situation?? You can tell a good story in an episodic procedural that develops the characters and maintains thematic threads and sells parallel storylines AND you can have big disasters and explosions and crazy emergencies. Adding in action does not preclude developing characters.

You know how I know??

I watched 911 seasons one through five.

[unsaidace]

"Tommy “outed Buck” to everyone by not wiping his face"

Yes, this fandom treats Buck like an idiot or a child or both but I would have never thought that we woul reach the "boyfriend not cleaning Buck makes him an asshole" level of weird. infantilization for the sake of demonization is really a hallmark of this hellspace

Yeah, we’ve reached a new low with this one. The bar was set in Hell, and these fuckers are playing limbo with the Devil.

Genuinely though, the way this fandom treats Buck (both in canon and fanon) pisses me off so bad. They act like he’s a naughty puppy who needs swatting with a rolled up newspaper. The man’s 30-something years old, it’s not Tommy’s job to whip out a fucking wet wipe and clean him up like a toddler. If he really cared about being “outed”, he’d have gone to the bathroom and washed his face. Or, y’know, not tried to devour Tommy’s face in the middle of a fucking hospital foyer.

[uraharashusband]

why do someone ppl think that Tommy outed Buck by not wiping his face off? Buck was gonna come out that same day anyways so why does it matter? i’m pretty sure they left the soot on his face to play up the coming out scene and even then he didn’t HAVE to come out. everyone just accepted it and moved on. it’s really not that big of a deal.

[louferrignojrofficial]

‘they never said he’s straight in the show so they have plausible deniability and he can be gay’

‘he said he’s straight in the show but if he was then he wouldn’t need to say it’

[tommykinard]

saying "tommy had no lines and didn't speak" isn't the gotcha you think it is bc true tommy fans had a blast clapping and cheering on our beloved tree #7 in the back <3

[nquesoxlies]

BoBs are saying that the still of Buck and Maddie standing by juice is going to be Buck confessing his feels for Eddie to her, because of the juice theory lol

Can we give Bobby's memory ONE fucking episode without Buddie being the most important thing to these people???

[azaharinflames]

Sorry, I've just been thinking about Masks (as one does, because what an ep), and how the funeral scene just goes to foreshadow more than we could've imagined for the rest of the season.

And just. The choice to have Tommy in it? Bigger than we initially realised.

Because we know Tim was thinking about Bobby dying in Season 8 from a long time ago. Enough to write it in 808. Granted, that does not confirm that he wrote 805 with it in mind, but given how much that funeral scene foreshadowed? Intentional or not, it is there.

(And we thought it was foreshadowing for Tommy going through an NDE experience whilst Buck and he were broken up. But, as it is...)

Anyway, we already knew Tommy being in that scene was very significant. Especially once they had that focus on him in rather meaningful sentences. But now? The fact that they put him (and just him) in that scene when it could've been Buck going on his own, or dragging Tommy and Eddie with him...

That choice has just become more interesting in my mind, idk. Because why would you make a character be at yet another significant moment if it was for nothing? Nah babes, his inclusion is long-term/endgame material.

[wikiangela]

so funny to see people being mad about it not being "their silly firefighter show" anymore when... it was never just that, not at the beginning lmao sure it has its silly moments, more and more as it goes on, but like, it used to be darker and I for one am glad it's back to its roots

you mean the show that started with a suicidal alcoholic captain who indirectly killed his family? the show where a firefighter almost killed a man in a fighting ring? the show where a woman suffering from ppd tried to kill herself? the show where she's also kidnapped by her ex and she kills him in self defence?? where a paramedic ran over a girl with the ambulance and killed her?? the show that used to have much more deaths on calls bc you can't save everyone? where even kids die? this silly show?

like jfc watch even just s1 and then talk to me about silly little firefighter show 🙄