#ANOTHER LENORE?!?!??!?!

[coconut530]

BELLTOWER BONANZA

[favvn]

I love how Kirk and Lenore's first meeting goes. He is returning back to the planet with the full intent of speaking to Anton Karidian after looking into Kodos/Karidian through the ship's computer, so his plans are altered when Lenore tells him her father doesn't meet anyone personally or go to parties. He decides to charm Lenore instead. And right away, the dialogue gives a tell: "You saw Macbeth. That was my father."

Macbeth here can refer both to the play itself and the titular character in the play, the Scottish general who is told by a trio of witches he will be king, and he is so consumed by the ambition this prophecy brings, that he murders King Duncan to ascend to the throne. He and Lady Macbeth kill more people to keep their crimes secret and retain power, and the two descend into madness amidst a civil war. Does any of this seem at all familiar, perhaps, to Tarsus IV's revolution, Kodos' declaration of martial law to gain control, etc.? ("The revolution was a success [...] I was a soilder in a cause.")

And Lenore goes for a sip of her drink to stop talking. She wants this line of conversation to go nowhere, both because of her father and possibly because she is aware she has said too much. By linking her father to Macbeth, she inadvertently recalls Kodos and Tarsus IV. Remember, she knows that Kirk is a survivor of Tarsus IV, so it is in her interest to play coy and keep Anton Karidian out of the conversation. (In other words, this whole scene is a game of cat and mouse. Kirk wants to use her to get to her father, Lenore wants to kill Kirk to protect her father.)

But Kirk is the one to link her to Lady Macbeth, and rather than respond, "My name is Lenore when I am not on the stage," Lenore plays along. By coyly hiding behind the role of Lady Macbeth, she inadvertantly allows Kirk to see how the Karidians work, assuming Kirk knows his Shakespeare. (In all honesty, this dialogue is more so for the audience's benefit. Had Kirk realized it was Lenore right here, I think even Columbo himself would call bullshit. Still, picking out these details makes for a fun rewatch.)

In the play, Lady Macbeth pushes her husband to action and cleans up after his mess by killing Duncan's guards. Lenore was born after the Tarsus IV massacre so this is obviously not to say she pushed her father into a massacre, but she has decided to dispose of the survivors lest they come back to cause problems for her father. It's in this way that Lenore is like Lady Macbeth as the two women commit further crimes to hide the initial crime perpetrated by the one they love and to retain power.

These two are playing unspoken 3D chess, but this is the extent of their conversation. Awkward! Still, it is neat that Kirk ignores Lenore's opening for more information about him. He just takes her phrasing and throws it back at her and then asks a question to actually get her talking.

Regardless of Kirk's own knowledge of the play, it is still fun that after saying, "So, Lady Macbeth. Interesting," Kirk then asks, "What's your next move?" This would be akin to asking, "Who do you intend to kill next?" but since the Macbeth references are for the audience's benefit, Kirk's intended meaning is, of course, "Where will you perform next?"

Still, Lenore Karidian just gives him a look as she takes a sip of her drink, as if she understands all too well the layers behind this exchange.

It is by the end of this exchange that Lenore finally tells Kirk her name, and it is by asking how well she played the role of Lenore Karidian. The earlier exchange on the couch might have been odd, but this goes to show Lenore's willingness to play a role, even at the expense of her own life. She's no longer making nods and winks towards the theater. Her life is one long act in a play. Her killing the survivors of Tarsus IV is just as much for her own peace of mind as it is for her father at this point. (Need I remind anyone of the fate of Lady Macbeth?)

[joahnwiz27]

Best boss ever (not really)

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Flanagan gives us a new Kate Siegel character? I am happy.

And yeah, I did binge watch The Fall of the House of Usher

[darthpastry]

Googling the main characters from Nevermore because I completely blanked on some of the names (it was Pluto), edge has this thing where copilot immediately generates an AI response and... glad it's still stupid.

[dearllorenna]

Theo: british people are ridiculous, infamous and devastatingly horrible. I would never-

*Lenore and Annabel talking in the kitchen*

Theo: they're everywhere...

*Lenore drink a cup of tea*

Theo: and they're contagious...

[mary-su-is-ruining-my-life]

happy 2-14 (´ ε ` )♡

[dum-vivere-vinum-rubrum]

Phew this took a while

Anyway, I love them, and horses are hard to draw, and I want divorce arc to end 😭

[anotherblas]

[gothofasaia]

Duke: i don’t suppose you have something fruity that i can perhaps …suck on?

Lenore: for the love of god if you want a vape you can say so

[shouts-into-the-void]

I've seen a lot of people going "The Dean's gave Annabel fake memories" after reading the latest episode and I...don't agree.

I think it's likely that when the "manipuation" they did was:

A) Showing her that Lenore was the one to kill her (or was at least there when it happened, leading into my next point)

B) Left out a large portion of her memories out, so as to give her the wrong idea

C) Made her manifest so that they would be pitted against each other, as it seems most of the challenges are designed to make the Spectreless fight the students with Spectres

Mourn has already been characterized very heavily as someone who refuses to break whatever rules these two have, so I don't think he would have straight up lied, or allowed Merry to do so, as it seems the rules state they can't directly intervene with the students.

[coconut530]

BITTERSWEET REUNIONS

[spoopy-nevermore-dump]

slime

[nevermore-polls]

[ceiling-karasu]

I’m not going to be the one to do it, but theoretically it would be possible to make a Scout Goseumdochi lives AU. The ice cannons are that kind of future technology that their explosion could have turned everything into the vicinity into ice instantly, freezing the plane as it exploded. Like that Captain America movie.

Of course, one would have to worry about the massive cell death that comes from rapid freezing and then heating of body cells. Unfreezing someone from such a fate would kill them, assuming the ice around the cells and organs hadn’t done it already, and is partially why cryogenically freezing is unviable with current technology.

But hedgehogs are true hibernators, so one could get around that with an explanation of cryogenics and such, perhaps. Any weasels and mice that were also frozen would probably die a gruesome death once thawed. There’s also the idea of everyone being frozen being aware the whole time, but a hedgehogs brain would shut itself off, allowing for less mental trauma.

Or, one could start an AU from a bunch of mice and weasels ending up kind of like Crystallized Rourke from Disney’s Atlantis, depending on how you want to use the freezing technology. Maybe that was the true way the missiles worked all along. Or just a calm, somber affair with heartfelt Flower Hill reunions.

I, for one, would prefer to ‘Lost Lenore’ him with a true death for my AUs. Also, it feels like him being alive after that would cheapen the sacrifice, as much as he deserved better.

[beevean]

https://youtu.be/Eo6fQkAEWu8?si=PhXDGqTpWq5QA2dp

The Showrunners: Aww he had a point about humanity and deserved a happy ending with his wife!

Love this exchange. Yeah, that's him.

Aww, look at him, trying to spare the women and children 🥺 by killing the men they love. This also shows how deliberate of a choice it was: if the slaughter of mankind in Lisa's name was dictated by animal pain, this one was logical, cruel, and nothing more than a show of power.

Aww, look at him, loving his wife so much 🥺 to the point of wanting to exterminate her own kind that she wanted to help. Also yeah, this time he sure didn't spare women and children.

Aww, look at him, taking into his home two men abandoned by humanity 🥺 by lying to one of them and treating him like a stupid child which made him eventually decide to trust Carmilla (so indirectly causing his own downfall lol), and then sending his favorite one in the desert without any resource so that he couldn't protect him (realistically, Isaac should have drowned in guilt and even start to believe Dracula did not deem him good enough).

Aww, look at him, crying that he's killing his boy 🥺 and then deciding that he's a-ok with letting him grieve for the deaths of his parents because hey, it would be weird to show up again I guess.

I love that Drac is given a happy ending by doing even less than Isaac to earn it. Dracula just realized that he was so far gone he was attacking his own son... but his feelings for humanity didn't change. Dude snapped like a rabid dog after the leash Lisa held was broken, because he already hated mankind, Lisa just gave him something to do instead of rotting in his castle. In the end, he stopped his plan only because he arbitrarily got his wife back, so it's as if nothing happened.

Same energy as

[lotrmusical]

My high school did a yearly poetry recitation contest (Poetry Out Loud), so Oh Boy do I know some poems. My favorites are Ozymandias and "the world is about to end and my grandparents are in love," by Kara Jackson. Also in 8th grade we had a Poe unit and had a class contest to make the best music video of the Raven, so I still know a good chunk of that.

i hadn't heard of the kara jackson one! just read through it and enjoyed it, particularly these lines > 'grandma returns to her love like a hymn, marks it with a color. // when the world ends will it suck the earth of all its love? /will i go taking somebody’s hand, / my skin becoming their skin?'