#Al-Ahli Arab Hospital

[vyorei]

Summary of the attack on al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City with all the info available so far.

[alanshemper]

“This might be the strongest 2 minutes of analysis and condemnation of Israel's bombing—a war crime—of the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza you'll see today.”

[transfloridaresources]

TONIGHT (10/17/23) 7PM, TAMPA, FL

[Photo ID: Candles against a black background with text reading: UPDATED TIME AND LOCATION. Vigil for Wadea Al-Fayoume and the victims of the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital attack. Join us tonight at 56th and Fowler Ave to light candles in honor of those who lost their lives. /End ID] via Tampa Bay Community Action Committee

[rubiscodisco]

Here's why you should be skeptical about western reporting that blames palestinian rockets fired by hamas or by palestinian islamic jihad for the carnage in al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza:

Directly after the attack, Benjamin Netanyahu's digital aide Hananya Naftali tweeted "Israeli Air Force struck a Hamas terrorist base inside a hospital in Gaza", but later deleted it but later backtracked, saying he was misinformed and was only quoting from Reuters news.

Asked directly whether there were military operations at the time of the hospital explosion, reps of the IDF sidestepped the question to ITV reporting.

The Israeli government releases what it claims to be an intercepted call from Hamas operatives where they mention that "it looks like" the rockets were from their side. Aside from the fact that it sounds extremely staged (it sounds like a videogame cutscene where designed around communicating the relevant clues, not like a natural conversation), some details contradict with other evidence they released during the same conference which puts the source of the rockets at a different location in gaza further away from the hospital.

In the same press conference, the Israeli government says the reported death toll by palestinian civil authorities were inflated. The blast hit the parking lot on the hospital, but the fact is that many palestinians were crowding the hospital grounds, either accompanying injured loved ones or seeking shelter in what they thought was a safe haven during the bombings. There are videos circulating of dozens of children playing in the adjacent courtyard hours before the explosion. A death toll up to 500 people seems entirely within the realm of possibility. If Israel is discrediting that information on shaky ground, how believable is the rest of their information?

Joe Biden confirms Israel's story, saying he believes them based on the evidence he has seen. This was right after Biden flew to Israel and struck a deal with Netanyahu on actions to take moving forward with the attack on palestine. This was right after that meeting, with Netanyahu right beside him.

The Israeli government and IDF is notorious for lying to western media about their attacks to palestine.

The American government is notorious for lying to western media about middle eastern operations (see Iraq).

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

"I want to make sure your audience understands the depravity of what happened yesterday. So, after committing the worst atrocities against Jews since the Holocaust, the organization that was involved in dismembering children alive in front of their parents sent out a memo to the American press corps, 10 days later, in which they said Israel had killed 500 Palestinians by bombing a hospital. None of that turned out to be true. Israel did not bomb the hospital, the hospital's still standing, and we don't know how many people were killed, but it certainly wasn't 500. But our press corps, like the stenographers of terrorists that they are, simply repeated this lie. The New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, the BBC, the AP repeated Hamas' lie word for word. Why did they do this? Because they are educated at elite institutions where they get woke mind-virused, they cannot tell right from wrong, they cannot tell truth from falsehood, and they simply lie and lie. Because to them, Israel is the 'oppressor,' and they spent 10 days having to describe atrocities against Jews and they were just desperate to get Israel back into the 'oppressor' position of the bad guy."

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"Another aspect of the construction of whiteness is the way certain groups have moved into or out of that race. For example, early in our history Irish, Jews, and Italians were considered nonwhite-that is, on a par with African Americans. Over time, they earned the prerogatives and social standing of whites by a process that included joining labor unions, swearing fealty to the Democratic Party, and acquiring wealth, sometimes by illegal or underground means. Whiteness, it turns out, is not only valuable; it is shifting and malleable." -- "Critical Race Theory, An Introduction," Delgado/Stefancic

This is religion dovetailing with Critical Race Theory in real time.

Omar and Tlaib's excuse is obvious. They're raging antisemites, and Islam wants nothing more than to murder every last Jew.

But what's The New York Time's excuse?

Or the BBC?

Or Reuters, or Associated Press,

or CNN, or The Washington Post?

You know, for being the PR agents for a literal terrorist organization.

The New York Times was so giddy, they published a file photo from a site 25km away to go with the headline.

[dirbychazelle]

Please watch this video. This is a Palestinian doctor who was working at the Al-ahli hospital.

"... This is one of my neighbours here, His home is completely destroyed. He tried to find a safe place in the hospital, but he came again as a dead body in our hospital here."

[gamer2002]

So not only Hamas lied about the cause of explosion (which was their own misfiring rocket), but also about the hospital being hit.

[blue-village]

The video shows a projectile streaking through the darkened skies over Gaza and exploding in the air. Seconds later, another explosion is seen on the ground.

The footage has become a widely cited piece of evidence as Israeli and American officials have made the case that an errant Palestinian rocket malfunctioned in the sky, fell to the ground and caused a deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City.

But a detailed visual analysis by The New York Times concludes that the video clip — taken from an Al Jazeera television camera livestreaming on the night of Oct. 17 — shows something else. The missile seen in the video is most likely not what caused the explosion at the hospital. It actually detonated in the sky roughly two miles away, The Times found, and is an unrelated aspect of the fighting that unfolded over the Israeli-Gaza border that night.

The Times’s finding does not answer what actually did cause the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast, or who is responsible. The contention by Israeli and American intelligence agencies that a failed Palestinian rocket launch is to blame remains plausible. But the Times analysis does cast doubt on one of the most-publicized pieces of evidence that Israeli officials have used to make their case and complicates the straightforward narrative they have put forth.

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The Al Jazeera video footage was shared three times by the Israel Defense Forces on X, formerly known as Twitter. In the posts, the Israeli military identified the moving aerial object as a ��rocket aimed at Israel” that “misfired and exploded” at nearly the same time as the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast. Spokesmen for the Israeli military also explicitly identified this munition as the misfired rocket that caused the explosion in interviews with CNN and the BBC on Oct. 18 and in an interview with India Today on Oct. 19.

Numerous media outlets have shown the video footage and several have cited it as evidence that a Palestinian rocket hit the hospital.

But The Times concluded that the missile in the video was never near the hospital. It was launched from Israel, not Gaza, and appears to have exploded above the Israeli-Gaza border, at least two miles away from the hospital.

To trace the object in the sky back to Israeli territory, The Times synchronized the Al Jazeera footage with five other videos filmed at the same time, including footage from an Israeli television station, Channel 12, and a CCTV camera in Tel Aviv. These different videos provided a view of the missile from north, south, east and west. Using satellite imagery to triangulate the launch point in those videos, The Times determined that the projectile was fired toward Gaza from near the Israeli town of Nahal Oz shortly before the deadly hospital blast. The findings match the conclusion reached by some online researchers.

[esyra]

After the hospital bombing, I finally heard back from my grandmother and confirmed that several of my relatives were murdered by Israeli bombing. Seven of them, to be precise. Three are still going, including her. We've been talking constantly ever since.

Asked if it was possible to head south, and was told they did but were also bombed there. So they decided to go back home, in Zeitoun. Their home was bombed and they were pulled out of the rumble, then driven by ambulances to the al-Ahli Arab Hospital. There were people in every corner. Gazans sheltering, sleeping on the floor. Gazans dying on the floor, waiting for beds.

Four were declared dead on arrival, three were in need of surgery and other three were just bandaged. Then, a bomb was dropped in the parking lot that made parts of the ceiling collapse, like Dr. Ghassan Abu Sittah reported in that horrific conference/interview. Those in need of surgery died.

By the way, just in case you didn't know: the Church of Saint Porphyrius, the third oldest in history, bombed by Israel a few days back, was located near the hospital.

When looking for new shelter, they saw schools with signs hanging outside, "We can't take any more families." They met families, sympathetic but already sheltering too many people. They're now staying in an apartment building they found empty. Sleeping in the corner of the living room. If the family comes back, they'll apologize and leave.

Told me she was saving her phone battery for when the bombing stopped, and she had to ask for help to rebuilt the neighborhood. But she doesn't think it's gonna stop anymore. The ones still with her are mute most of the time, like they're saving energy, but she feels lonely and wanted to talk. There's no internet and to connect to WhatsApp, people are buying "a card from the supermarket, there's a password and username." Not sure what she meant. Still, the internet is inconsistent and won't load neither videos or images nor pages, so she doesn't know what's happening on the outside world.

Told her there were a lot of people protesting to stop the genocide, she replied, "The bombings are getting worse by the day." The bombing yesterday was the worst she ever witnessed. The entire neighborhood is infested with the smell of death, of decomposing bodies. Bodies are piling up in the streets and she's not sure if it's because they ran out of places to store them, but most of them are in bags. The smoke of the bombings hide the blue sky—she hasn't seen the clouds for a while.

Asked if I could share their pictures, names and dreams with people and was told, of which I partly agree, "they're not entertainment." If anyone genuinely cared, they would be alive—I'd argue there are people who do care, but I'm not gonna lecture her pain. And they don't deserve to be used to fulfill someone's sick fantasy. Told me to remember what some Israelis do with pictures of dead Palestinians. And I do.

For those of you who are not familiar, many times before settlers got together to celebrate the murder of Palestinians. For one, in 2015, Israeli settlers set a house in Duma, West Bank on fire. An 18-month old baby, Ali Dawbsheh, was burnt alive. Both parents later died of wounds and only a 5-year-old, Ahmad, survived, although severely injured.

Two celebrations of their murder are widely known, one at a wedding and others outside the court in which two were indicted for the terrorist attack. In the wedding, guests stabbed a photo of the toddler, Ali, while others waved guns, knives and Molotov cocktails. Israel's Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, was present.

That's what happens in an apartheid. Palestinians are so abused by authorities that their "innocent civilians" come to accept the brutality as necessary or are desensitized by our suffering. After all, it's been 75 years—get used to it!

So I won't risk the image of my loved ones, in fear they are used in these kinds of depravity. I will say, though, the world lost a young footballer. Lost a female writer and an aspiring ballerina. Lost a kind father, who was also a great cook, and a loving mother that enjoyed sewing and other types of handicraft art. Lost a math teacher and a child that wanted to become one.

People think Israel is testing new weapons on them. There's civilians arriving at the hospital with severe burns, which they thought was from white phosphorus, but apparently the pattern is different from the one caused by white phosphorus. It's widely believed Israel tests weapons in Palestinians.

Jeff Halper, author of War Against the People, a book on Israel's arms and surveillance technology industries, said: "Israel has kept the occupation because it's a laboratory for weapons."

They've ran out of drinkable water and the "aid" Biden sent was only for the South of Gaza and no fuel, for hospitals, was allowed in. Many shelves in the supermarket are empty. She said many are convinced that if they don't die from the bombing, they'll die from starvation or dehydration, or whatever disease will develop from the dirty water they're drinking.

Told me all people do now is pray, cry and die. Told me she hopes West Bank is spared. Told her Israel bombed a mosque in West Bank and dozens of Palestinians in West Bank are being murdered by settlers, so she bided me goodbye.

[vyorei]

Live coverage of the 18th of December 2023 is now closed.

Here are the final reports of the day and a recap of today's major events.

It is 12am in Ireland now so I have to go to bed.

I'll be back to resume live updates in the afternoon, in batch format like today should I wake up still-ill

For continuous updates while I'm gone, click the link below:

[alanshemper]

how it started... how it's going

[gfas]

This is horrible. I have no words to say.

[strangeracrossthestreet]

I love how Western media spent days on end chasing its own tail when the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital got bombed (who could have done it!!!) by Israel but now they are deathly quiet as Israel attacks multiple hospitals at the same time in a single day.

Why are they so silent? Is it because they can no longer deflect Israel's warcrimes?

Useless fucking beings. Zero integrity.

[zoethebitch]

I know this is the least surprising thing in the world but Biden this morning in a press conference with Netanyahu uncritically repeated the lie that al-Ahli Arab Hospital was bombed by the resistance in Gaza. he is giving Israel the green light to keep doing this there will be no repercussions from the US or the UN for this genocide. everyone who demanded that we vote for this man should be ashamed.

[gamer2002]

Press:

Reality:

Why did the controlled by Jews journalists do this?

[vyorei]

YOU CAN'T KEEP USING THIS FUCKING EXCUSE, THIS ISN'T A GAME AND THAT ISN'T A CHEAT CODE

STOP ATTACKING HOSPITALS YOU FUCKING PSYCHOPATHS