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huntsphury · 2 years

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crack theories about sjm ships (spoilers for all of her series)

I'm thinking about possibilities for the crossover...

Since Sarah is, well, Sarah, she won't anyone end up the series single. Right now I think elriel, vassien and emory are endgame. In ccity and tog, the only people with not possible love interests until now are Tharion and Fenrys. If gwynriel is not a thing, Gwyn will be alone.

That may sound a little crazy, but... what if Gwyn and Fenrys end up together? I've always had the impression that sjm cares a lot for these two, so why leave them alone? I think Fenrys didn't get a mate in the end of the series because he was just starting to recover from his trauma, just like Gwyn. And their trauma is REALLY alike: both were SA'd and saw their twins die in a horrible way. I think it's a weird coincidence... maybe Sarah did it on purpose so they could heal together and find in each other someone who could understand?

Also, their personalities would match so much. Gwyn is one of my favorite characters, so as long as she has a happy ending, I'm happy too, but she would be so cute with Fenrys 🥺. I love him so much too, he deserves a mate like her. They're both kind, fun and strong. I would really LOVE this couple if it ever happens.

But why not Gwyn and Tharion, you may ask, since Tharion has a little mermaid story coming on. Well, because - and I don't even consider it a crack ship, since it's pretty obvious to me - he is ending up with Viktoria. Remember? That woman who's spirit was thrown in the ocean inside a box in the first ccity book.

Tharion is Ariel - that is obvious. He is the siren who claimed to love the surface things. Who loves the ocean, but always wants more. Who made very a questionable deal with a (kind of) witch. Viktoria is someone who didn't belong to the ocean, but is stuck in there, and nobody can find her... But maybe a siren can. I think Tharion will resgate her just like Ariel did with Erik.

There're still some relevant people left single for while: Tarquin, Cresseida, Viviane's sister, Helion, Tamlin... But the first three are tertiary characters, who almost never show up in the story, so I'm not sure about what happens next to them. Some people think about Gwyn and Tarquin, and you know what? That would be so cute too. I thought of Gwyn and Fenrys because they are suspiciously alike, but let's see what happens. Helion will probably end up with Lady of Autumn. Tamlin, I'm pretty sure, is not touching any woman for the next decades.

#Crack theories #Sjm books #Tog #Acotar #Ccity #Gwyn #Fenrys #Tharion #Ccity3 theory #please don't judge me #Sjm crossover

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ruhnlidiasworld · 8 months

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Ruhn with “that Night Court dude” HE DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABT RHYSAND HE'S ONE OF US THAT'S WHY I LOVE HIM

#hofas spoilers #hofas #crescent city #ruhnlidia #lidia x ruhn #ruhn x lidia #sjm #nobody in the ccity world likes the IC and I love them for that #lidia cervos #bryce quinlan #ember quinlan #hofas spoiler #Ruhn I knew I could trust you #it's an offense for Ruhn being compared to the Night Court dude #Ruhn is better

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ae-neon · 9 months

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Literally only 4 chapters in and Bryce Quinlan might be the worst? Like morally speaking, she might be sjm's worst protag and that's saying something

She says again and again that compared to the rest of midgard humans are treated best in Crescent City, as they don't have to endure menial labour until death.

The treatment in ccity being that best case scenario: you can become rich but will always be a second class. Worst case scenario: you're eaten. Even the average life of even a half-human is selling sex at the Meat Market.

She still thinks the Asteri shouldn't let the human resistance get to ccity. Implying they should be put down, permanently, rather than have them disrupt her peace.

Bryce sees a Fae woman with a barely adult human man, notes the man is clearly drugged up BUT her real issue is that the woman is cheap when she offers Bryce money to sleep with the DRUGGED UP 20 YEAR OLD.

She says she keeps her nails long and body fit to fight for her life in case some random Vanir tries to rape, kill or eat her. But looks down on her human date for not causing a scene when she thinks that the Vanir in the restaurant are thinking "half-blood" when they look at her. Knowing her Vanir friends would definitely fight for her.

Let's think about that

She knows humans can't do much to Vanir without guns and bombs but she thinks humans are disgusting terrorists when they do use them to fight oppression

She, a half Vanir, is always ready to physically fight for her life but is expecting her HUMAN date to fight a Vanir because she THINKS that random Vanir at the restaurant are THINKING bad things about her

So the man must die because Bryce has perceived thought crimes against her

God help me

#anti sjm #anti crescent city #ccity hoeab

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moonssalad · 1 year

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Im amazed at how SJM is so good at writing such immature characters.

#anti sjm #anti sarah j maas #anti acotar #anti crescent city #anti ccity #anticc #anti tog #anti throne of glass #anti rhysand #anti cassian #anti azriel #anti mor #anti amren #anti feyre archeron #anti feyre #anti aelin #anti bryce #anti bryce quinlan #anti aelin galathynius

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leah-sz · 23 days

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the biggest problem in the acotar fandom is the lack of bryce/nesta fics

#nesta archeron #bryce quinlan #nesta x bryce #like do i have to write it myself??#acotar #hofas #ccity

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feyres-divorce-lawyer · 4 months

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watch my video boi 🧌. transcript 👇🏾

the issue at hand here isn’t sarah as a white woman writing a white female character. the issue is sarah as a white woman making intentional writing choices that place her bipoc coded characters in positions of servitude, whether as a literal position of service such as handmaidens and servants or under a metaphorical purpose where either a part or the whole of their existence in the story is to further the development of their white counterparts.

nuala and cerridwen only exist in the story as servants to rhysand and by extension the inner circle. they cook for them, making entire dinners that they don’t get to eat at. they work for them as spies, they care for elain. these are all positions of servitude.

the point you make of only seeing racial issues in fantasy because they exist in real life is, well yes! stories do not exist in a vacuum where real world connections can’t be drawn because all stories are made by real world people, with real world backgrounds and real world biases. biases that show up in the stories they create. racial issues exist in fantasy because fantasy is created by people who know what racial issues are, and sarah is no exception. in fact, she uses racial issues as plot points in her stories, with no sensitivity, of course.

slavery is a construct that exists in all three of her series and a slavery is a racial issue, so pointing out the racism literally baked into her work isn’t looking and reaching for problems that don’t exist. race is a social issue in all her universes because she makes it a social issue in all her universes. simply switch out humans with black people and people of color, and the fae, high fae, magical creatures in positions of power are white.

it is racist the way sarah write her bipoc coded characters, and i really, truly want to emphasize that. there are no ifs, ands, buts, urms, urhs, that’s not the way she meant its, about it. it is racist, point black and period.

moving on to nehemia, you say she fought and died for her country but that is not the reason for her murder that the plot at large emphasizes the most. at every turn in the story past crown of midnight, nehemia’s death is discussed as the plot point that furthered aelin’s character. it is heavily implied that she orchestrated her own death because aelin wouldn’t act against the oppressive power over their world and she was prophesized to.

it has been a really long time since i read of throne of glass but i cannot recall any mention of nehemia’s death that did not tie back to how it made aelin feel, how it was what spurred her into action, made her overcome her cowardice. the narrative never mourns nehemia’s death as the loss of an individual person, the loss of a great mind, the loss of a princess to largely enslaved nation.

nehemia is mourned as aelin’s loss. her murder is set as somethings that happens to aelin. nehemia didn’t simply die, it is aelin’s best friend that was killed. she serves only to further aelin’s character.

if the main message readers were supposed to take away from her death was how she fought for her country until the very end, why do we hear nothing concrete about how ellywe reacts to their princess’ homocide. why is nothing on page about how ellywe mourned a member of their royal family? because nehemia didn’t die for her country, she died so aelin, a white character, could start fighting against tyranny.

#i wrote a whole script and everything #anyways sjm is nawwwtt beating the racism allegations #and i am never reading ccity it ain’t happening😭#anti sjm #acotar #throne of glass #fandom meta #racism #really just anti-blackness

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elains · 9 months

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Some ideas on Theia, Fionn, Pelias and the High Lords

Since House of Flame and Shadow is coming out soon, I want to leave this registered here for posterity hahaha. I'm doing most of this by memory, I haven't really reread, so any mistakes you find that's probably it lol. Also this is WAY more focused on CCity and its character's than ACOTAR proper.

ACOSF introduces us to the Daglan and Fionn, the First and Only High King of Prythian. According to the Prythian side of the legend, he has a sword called Gwydion which was dipped into the Cauldron by the High Priestess Oleanna, which he used to defeat the Daglan. Milennia of peace followed, the land was divided in the precursors to the courts, but then they were at the brink of war. He became High King and was betrayed by his best friend and his Queen, who was also queen of her own territory in her own right.

In Crescent City, we are introduced to the figure of Queen Theia, the Starborn Queen who led the Fae out of their homeworld and brought them to Midgard. She had two daughters, Helena and an unnamed second one. She was betrayed by her most trusted general, Pelias, who then married her daughter and forced her to bear his children. Her other daughter escaped, never to be heard from again. The Starsword beloged to Theia. Come HOSAB, we learn it and Gwydion are one and the same.

Applying Occam's Razor to these two characters, the simplest outcome is that Theia was Fionn's wife and the one who betrayed him, Helena and Nameless Daughter are their children, and Pelias is the best friend and general who betrayed him. Fionn probably wasn't a great person because let's be real, Theia found Aidas later and SJMs has a thing for making past love interests looking bad when a new one is in town (example: Shahar for Hunt).

I don't want Fionn to have been evil! And I guess this is what these ideas boil down to. I'm not even gonna call them theories because they aren't really based on hard evidence. Just fun What Ifs, possible parallels, headcanons. Who knows? So without further ado:

What If Pelias played the role of Iago?

We all know Pelias is utter trash. He betrayed his Queen and forcibly married her daughter so she could be the mother of his now royal children. If he was Fionn's best friend, I have exactly zero reason to think he wasn't trash and power hungry then too. All in all, regardless of what Theia and Fionn's relationship was like (and I want to believe they were both good people), I believe Pelias was the root of all evil.

I can see him feeling inferior to both: Theia with her blazing starlight compared to his meagre one and Fionn was probably remarkable in his own way. I like to think that though they didn't love each other, there was respect and trust and even camaraderie. They both played their part in expelling the Daglan. Fionn got to be High King and married Theia, who was Queen of Dusk. He was their friend, relegated to their shadows.

This gets even juicier if we accept as true that Pelias was always a Starborn Prince. Maybe he was Theia's illegitimate brother, maybe a distant relative. I can see him wanting everything his friends have: the crown of High King, the title of King of Dusk, everything. Greed and Jealousy that drove him to manipulate his closest friends into turning against each other and ended with Theia slaying Fionn.

He never got to reap the rewards in Prythian, though: Theia's killing of Fionn sent the realm into disarray. We are told the Fae were lured to Midgard, and I think that's because Theia took the chance to flee a whole land that wanted her dead for her crime either for justice or their own greed (we will come back to it). Theia escaped believing Pelias was her friend and trusted general. I don't think they were ever lovers. Maybe that too played a role in his jealousy and anger, how Theia never loooked his way and found love with Aidas.

Regardless, he betrayed and murdered her anyway, dooming her daughter to a lifetime of unhappiness.

What if Fionn and Theia were siblings?

Frequently, across Crescent City, we hear that the Starborn have intermarried to keep their bloodline pure (how utterly Targaryen of them). We have yet to hear about any historical examples of such unions, but Fionn and Theia provide a fine opportunity for this to be brought to the table. The Last Starborns marrying out of duty to keep their bloodline pure in their old world. It also goes well with how Gwydion and Truthteller are siblings blades, one belonging to each.

Could Theia have been a Queen of her own territory in her own right then if they were siblings? Why not? Plenty of queens in history were queens in their own right, regardless of their husbands. She could have been the oldest and heir to the Dusk Territory, Fionn the younger sibling who was chosen as the High King. Or maybe he was the eldest and gave up the throne to her. Maybe the territory passed down in the female line or to the strongest starborn. In any case, it's not really a hurdle.

In this scenario, Pelias as their best friend (distant relative/bastard half-sibling/wtv) still works. In fact, it complements it because it highlights Pelias's hatred and envy for them both. They get everything, he gets nothing. Taken further if Fionn didn't have the Starborn's light, but was a legitimate prince.

It would also create an interesting parallel between Ruhn and Bryce. Siblings, one dark and one light. "Maybe there's a knife for me out there", Bryce herself says. Ruhn's the older brother and as far as we know, the heir, but it's Bryce who is most often compared to a Queen. Not him, though if I recall, Bryce think she will be a good ruler. She is right. Ruhn might carry Pelias light, true, but his shadows are Fionn's.

This time, it doesn't end in tragedy.

What if Theia was Fionn's daughter?

This is VERY far-fetched, I freely admit to it, and was born out of me trying to rationalize the difference between ACOSF and CCity: Gwydion is Fionn's sword, but it'salso the Starsword, which is Theia's.

Simplest solution is either: it was Fionn's and Theia took it all after she killed him and Midgard doesn't have the full story or it was always Theia's and Prythian remembers it incorrectly. The Dread Trove we know was likely made by the Asteri and it wasn't originally Fionn's.

Crackpot theory: Fionn was the Starborn King, hero to the Fae, and married the Night Queen to secure his rule (that's where shadow power would have com into the bloodline). Fionn and his Queen have a daughter, Theia, and Theia herself has two daughters of her own. Who fathered these kids is 100% irrelevant. Sarah didn't give the Archeron sister's father a name, I'm not holding my breath he isn't just a no one.

Pelias is Fionn's best friend and general, and madly jealous of the man. Likely wants to marry his daughter, too. In any case, he and the Queen betray and murder Fionn, intent on setting Theia on the throne. In the end, Pelias tricks Theia into believing it was all her mother, and he is on her side. The Night Queen, ruler of Nightmares, was always a means to an end. Maybe she was aligned with the Asteri too, considering the Wild Hunt imagery in the CoN.

Or maybe the Queen was dead by then, and history has conflated her with Theia. Maybe Theia, Queen after her mother, thought her father was becoming a tyrant and decided to kill him. Maybe Pelias pushed her into it, thinking he could marry her. We actually never know how long Fionn reigned. Theia never stole anything at all: it was always hers by right. She was to be the next High Queen.

And then the High Lords intervened.

What if the reason Theia fled to Midgard was because of the High Lords?

Theia was lured by the Asteri to Midgard. But why? Why did she gave up everything in her former world to a new one? What could have driven her to take such a risk? I think she wouldn't have, had she any other choice. Theia was, to put it simply, pushed against a corner because she had a rebellion in her hands.

If she killed Fionn and he was recognized as the High King and well loved, this may as well have started a rebellion. Not even because he was a good king (maybe he was), but for their own power. The Royal House is in disarray, regardless of its familial arrangement, and what better place to strike? They do not want a High Queen whatsoever.

So they attack Theia. Maybe at some point she loses parts of the Dread Trove, which is why Helion has the reaction he has to the mask: it's an echo from when his ancestor used it against Theia. In any case, she's fighting a losing war. Her people will be eliminated. She's losing and desperte, and the Asteri's call is her salvation. She doesn't notice the trap.

Victorious, the High Lords weave history to be whatever he wanted, twisting or erasing the role she played. And, perhaps, this is why there have been no High Ladies: there's magic preventing it, magic which the first High Lords established to keep the power at bay, because Fionn's only heirs were women.

And this closes the bunch of ideas I wanted to write down lmao. Probably none of this will become canon but hey, it's fun to think of other possibilities! Again, this was all by memory, incosistences galore, self-indulgent, I don't really expect any (except Pelias is the Iago but that's pribably what EVERYONE thinks, but I needed to write it down for the rest to make sense you know).

#ccity #hosab #acotar #hoeab #sjm #crackpot theory

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