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Adoring the new asides!

As an extremely logical person who deals with a lot of intrusive thoughts (and borderline delusions sometimes), the crew did a fantastic job at portraying the balance of these thoughts with logic.

How you sometimes still need to check to ensure the intrusive thought is wrong, even as your logic continues to repeat that there’s no way its true.

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AND LOGAN FINALLY GETS MAD!! I hate that Remus of all characters tipped him over, when everyone else has ignored him so much. But I suppose it’s just because they’re such perfect counterparts.

This episode really pushed that Logan is being ignored because other important things keep happening. That Logan can acknowledge that Thomas’ newfound connection to Nico is important to Thomas’ health just as much as a clean apartment is, but is upset that his carefully planned.. plans are being pushed aside for spur of the moment decisions.

And finally solid confirmation of the orange side! Gonna be honest, I’m really hoping this is just Logan. That Logan comes in two parts, calm logic, and seething anger. As we have seen other side’s get angry, but none have shown the orange eyes like Logan did. It would fit thematically as well, given how often Logan pushes that he has no emotions. Almost like he’s (possibly subconciously) denying that he is a very emotional side. And that Patton (Logans direct opposite in roles) encompasses a lot of Thomas’ positive emotions.

I’m sure Im not the only one who can get really angry when going down a logical deep dive into something Im passionate about. In a lot of what I do, Logic and Anger are nearly hand in hand. And besides, when one is angry, they tend to think its a logical conclusion even when it may not be. Anger is an emotion that feels logically driven, even if its logic is flawed. So it wouldn’t be too shocking to see Logan be the orange side.

Alongside a connection like this bridging the gap between Romans dubbed “light and dark” sides. Where Virgil is one aspect (in name) in two spots depending on how one looks at him, it would be nice to see a side that is in both sides at once rather than Virgils grey area. Where logic is good, but can lead to anger which would be viewed as bad. A side that cant exactly be seen in a positive light (anger), being simultaneously one that is rarely seen in a bad one (Logic).

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The asides: [is released]

All the Logan fans:

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Some platonic Remus+Logan stuff

Works for Light and Dark Logan tbh

And some general “Remus being Remus” warnings if just having his name in the title isn’t enough of a warning.

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Remus helps Logan deal with his frustrations at being ignored.

Remus sympathises with the pain, and also doesnt have to worry about actually hurting Logan.

Logan likes being able to vent and, even though he’s constantly being maimed (and probably doing some maiming himself), gets to learn more about Remus and the Creativity Split.

Not gonna lie, their “talks” are moreso yelling while beating the shit out of eachother and I think thats very fitting of them both.

There’s always this soft genuine heartfelt moment of the two laying on the floor of Remus’ room before the mind palace works its weird healing magic.

Remus, out of all the sides, has seen Logan express his full emotions, and Logan has A LOT of them.

They have agreed to not speak of their mock-therapy sessions to anyone, cause then Patton will find out and they’ll get so many lectures about sharing your feelings from “the hypocrite” Logan said that, dont tell Patton.

When Logan gets really fed up he’ll just kick in Remus’ door. Thanks to Remus being a half of creativity, it’ll usually fly and hit him and Remus LOVES IT.

Janus cant figure out why he keeps hearing Logan scream and kick something, but hasn’t tried to investigate.... Yet.

Remus can legitimately get Logan to laugh. Usually from really stupid statements.

Remus says the stupidest things on purpose cause he likes seeing Logan smiling and happy.

Remus knows a surprising amount of biology, so he and Logan will just ramble about random Weird Human Things(tm)

Dark!Lo specific: Dark!Logan will scientifically correct Remus’ intrusive thoughts, suggest more efficient ways of performing the tasks, and how to get away with heavier crimes.

These two are far too strong when working 100% together

Logan once asked, in pure curiosity, what Remus would look like without the mustache. Remus immediately got rid of it and though Logan was weirdly horrified, he still took notes... And a picture. He’ll compare it to Roman and other sides later.

They thirst for Janus together. Logan only tried to deny his attraction for a minute cause Remus kept talking about [redacted] and broke Logan because of it.

Logan has learned that sharpening weapons to perfection is very calming

Logan is really the only side that will willingly just hang in Remus’ room. He finds it’s complete chaos interesting and is always trying to find patterns. Mostly because Romans room has (story beat) patterns to what it makes, so its possible Remus’ can too.

Remus becomes the only side allowed to just burst into Logans room and grab him.

When and if Remus gets properly accepted, Logan is likely the only side who is completely on board, knowing it could improve Thomas mental health and work, and cause he just really likes Remus.

They learn how to inslult Roman in different languages together

Remus focusses on becoming fluent in Pig latin, so much so that Thomas randomly says words in pig latin while home alone and talking to himself.

Logan rolls his eyes, but thinks its pretty entertaining.

These two will huddle up* and watch gruesome horror movies together while commenting on the unrealistic deaths/gore for whole nights. Patton is scared to leave his room and Virgil keeps yelling at them, but they wont stop.

*By Huddle up I mean Logan sits down and Remus crawls all over him like a feral gremlin until Logan can pull a blanket over him

Logan gives Remus dicipline slaps when he starts gettin to Thomas too much for Lo’s comfort

Logan has whole notebooks of diagrams/notes on how Remus’ tentacles and his room work.

Remus has tried to tell him that “they just do” but Logan wont accept that as an answer so he keeps studying.

Remus will say complete nonsense and Logan will answer as if he said english. Like people talking to their pets, Logan has no idea what Remus is saying (usually) but just makes up a conversation.

It’s usually about astronomy in Logans head.

Remus has started thinking of specific planets or starts to see if Logan will hop to the one he’s thinking of. (He hopes Logan is psychic and is trying to test it)

Remus has a copy of Logans puppet and just makes Logan say the stupidest things he can think of and it CRACKS LOGAN UP. (He has a near perfect, but very sarcastic, Logan impression)

Remus just drops from Logans ceiling while he’s studying, inevitably breaking a pen all over the paper and it doesnt even make Logan mad

Virgil saw this once and is still convinced that was Janus and not actually Logan.

Patton tries to support this new friendship, but he’s just too scared of Remus. Logan understands, but wishes Patton would try just a bit harder.

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Remus and Roman are the shortest sides because they are litterally two halves of a side.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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Darkside!Logan

Nobody asked for me to talk about him but here I am anyway.

Got long so it’s under a cut now.

Explination goes into how recent episodes have been altered, thus any content warnings on DWIT and SvS should likely be heeded.

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-Logan wasn’t always a dark side, Logic is a good and useful thing after all.

-But a side can only handle being ignored and pushed aside for the emotions for so long.

-I’m thinking sometime around the Puppet episode. Logan has become so frustrated and angry that he’s being pushed aside and the other sides seem to just be annoyed by him.

-Obviously it’s been building up for awhile, and He’s been trying to logic himself out of his anger, push the emotions down, just keep trying, surely they’ll listen eventually.

-And well they dont. and now theyre singing this stupid song? This isn’t going to help Thomas with the issue that logically, he shouldn’t even have.

-The others didn’t expect this, Logan seemed to be opening up, goofing around with the others…

-So when he started literally glitching and lashing out at them near the end of their happy song, then disappeared… They were clearly worried.

-They quickly wrap things up with Thomas, and try to go to Logans room to check on him.

-The door is there, certainly. It’d be illogical if it were to disappear. But they cant open it. They can’t hear anything inside.

-Roman starts plotting to break down the door, Patton a bit shakey, but trying his best to help him with the plan.

-Virgil’s trying to stay calm, but Roman and Pattons frantic brainstorming isn’t helping. He mumbles that they should probably just leave him alone, he’ll come out when he’s calmed himself. He’s Logic, he’s good at that.

-Patton and Roman hesitantly agree, the three returning to their rooms, or helping Thomas with basic things.

-Meanwhile Logan is pacing in his room, the quiet hums of the new robotic bits breaking the otherwise perfect silence.

-He’s trying to ignore that Deciet sits on his bed, a large, yet somewhat sympathetic grin.

-He supposes he can kind of accept there’s some emotions. The current pace of his heart seems to prove that he’s panicing.

-He pauses his pacing, a gloved? Metallic? Both? Hand over his mouth as he stares at the wall, quickly tapping a foot.

-”Logan” Calls Deciet from the bed.

-Logan expected a more sinister tone from Deciet, not one so sad. So he turns his head, glancing at Deciet, wincing a bit at the metal creaking, but otherwise looking annoyed by the unwelcome side.

-Deciet’s smile softens, a head tilting, “They finally got to you, didn’t they?” Logan rolls his eyes as Deciet continues, “I expected Roman or Virgil, you seemed much more…. Stable…”

-”I’d prefer if you didn’t point out my failure, Deciet…” Logans tone seeming much more deadpan than normal.

-They proceed to talk for some time, Deciet helping Logan to accept what’s happened, saying the “light sides” are always so dismissive of those they disagree with…

-The sides don’t see or hear anything from Logan until Selfishness vs. selflessness.

-Deciet pops up, looking like Logan, after the sides and Thomas freak out, ask if he’s alright, and Deciet plays it off, they get started on the real issue.

-What the sides don’t know is that Logan was in on it this time.

-Once Deciet is discovered, the sides are right back to worrying about Logan. Virgil assumes Deciet did something to him, Deciet claims innocence (Which is mostly true), though he doesn’t go into any detail about him even though the sides are suspecting he knows something.

-The episode proceeds as normal until Deciet calls in Logan. He’s obviously still doing his job, just a bit quieter than before.

-The others are all freaking out again while Deciet and Logan sit and wait for them to calm down. Logan not answering a single question tossed at him.

-Once they quiet down, Logan says, “Ah so now you all wish to hear from me. Anyway, You called, Deciet?”

-The same questioning occurs until Patton comes up. Patton avoiding all questions related to the issue, trying to get any bit of information on where Logan has been.

-Logan is incredibly vague.

-”I’ve been doing my job. Working to improve Thomas. I just told all of this to Deciet, is it necessary to ask for these answers again?”

-Logan willingly zaps himself to the back of the room.

-Every time someone tries to refer to Logan as the Logical one, he corrects them to Apathy. While he is still the Logical side, he’s renamed his title. Deciet is the only one to not refer to him as Logic.

-The episode continues and concludes reletively the same, though Logan just speaks up whenever needed, rather than trying to gain attention before answering questions. And the awkward atmosphere, of course.

-Once again, Logan goes into silence. He seems to appear within the mind palace occasionally, but almost like a cryptid, the sides think they saw him, but then he was just… Gone…

-Then Remus.

-Deciet had told Logan that Remus was going to bother the others, but not many details. The snake seemed rather good at keeping specifics to himself.

-Roman attempts to pull Logan up multiple times while trying to gain information, before Logan eventually pops in himself, startling the other sides.

-They’re finally able to get a proper look at him now, though Logan goes straight into buisness.

-Shrugging off the sides concern once again, He immediately asks about the intrusive thoughts once Roman asks, not pausing when the others attempt to shut him up.

-The reaction bit still occurs, just as Logans own comment on the reactions of Patton, Virgil, and Thomas. Especially considering nothing happened when the words were spoken.

-Yet.

-Logan attempts to continue the discussion of the thoughts, but everyone decides to push them aside.

-Logan takes notice of Remus begining to pop up, and takes his leave, the others trying to get him to stay.

-Song, without Logan, but a mention that he opened the door to let him out for the episode. (Through Logans pushing of the subject)

-Virgil attempts to take Logans spot through the episode, as Thomas is a bit too tired for Logic to push through.

-This of course means that Thomas loses some information, as Logan is not there to explain Remus.

-The sides struggle for awhile as they continue giving Remus attention, and trying to shut im up.

-Logan pops in momentarily a few times, reading a book to show he’s only slightly bored watching everyone struggle. He mumbles bits of advise before popping out with no answers.

-”Ignore him” “You can’t quiet him” “He’ll get bored eventually if you stop listening”

-His first pop in is for “Thomas’ friends and family is one thing, but his work? Is nothing sacred?”

-To which Remus actually apologizes, Logan pops away, then Thomas questions the line, then Remus continues on his train of thought.

-After Virgil struggles to get Patton to stop attempting repression, he manages to calm himself and tries to logic things out. Bringing up the things Logan keeps popping up and saying. That Logan must keep popping in for a reason.

-Logan doesnt pop in and stay until Virgil, Patton, and Thomas can all agree that they need Logan’s help. Which, given the emotional load of Virgil and Patton, that’s a very difficult task.

-The three almost begging Logan to stay when he next pops in.

-Logan goes on to explain things to everyone, his voice taking on a very angered/annoyed lecturing tone, and Remus being rather patient with Logan compared to the canon episode.

-One detail Deciet told Logan was that Remus likes to be violent, thus Logan was prepared for Remus to start attempting to “harm” him.

-This is the first time the two dark sides speak, they both make multiple refrences to Deciet in their back and forth, implying that they’ve been comunicating through the snake until now.

-When Remus disappears momentarily, and everyone takes notice, Logan pulls up his book, turns a page and, “Oh no, dont do thaat.” A sarcastic warning, before Remus pops up again.

-Logan coldly lectures the sides once more, finishing with a, “I hope you recognize how useful Logic can be in the future.” then vanishes.

-Remus is wrapped up, the others mention that Logan was pretty cool, but they’re still worried about him.

-He can still hear them, left to have the most subtle smile.

-While being a dark side, he still pops up in the Mindscape. The others try making conversation but Logan keeps it rather short and cold.

-Roman questions why he pops up, yet the other dark sides don’t, Virgil mumbles “You guys always made them uncomfortable, but Logan is used to us, so I guess he doesn’t mind.” Roman doesn’t catch all of that.

-Logan still joins them for the Sanders Asides, but is mostly silent for it, being very blunt with every bit of input

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Headcanon:

"a truck load of bubba gump shrimp" in the 12 days of christmas vid was a line Remus suggested that Roman threw in because he couldnt think of something better.

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Sides Animals

We already know the dark sides show animal traits and Im bored so take the animals I see all the sides as (Including Deciet and Remus even if we know them):

Deciet: we know he's a snake but Imma say he's a Ball Python specifically

Remus: Kraclken (I've seen some people straight up suggest Eldritch Horror and like.. Bro yes, but Kraken better compliments Roman)

Virgil: Im on the Spider Virgil train. Tarantula specifically

Roman: European Dragon (Fire breathing. Typical fairy tale dragon)

Logan: Crow (Really any Corvid, Im just biased for Crows)

Patton: Dog. Golden retriever or Pit Bull, maybe Saint Bernard? (Big soft pubby)

And for fun

Orange Side: Lion (I have a post explaing this a bit, but I mostly just think it.. Fits. Really well. Especially if we assume Virgil is a spider rather than a cat. Orange becomes the groups Feline)

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Anyone wanna know about my Dark!Logan?

I dont have alot but I think he's a fun au

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When Logan and Remus work together its morbid curiosity.

I accept zero critisism cause I’m right.

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Anyway since I didn’t make it clear enough apparently:

RemRom shippers get outta here, it is literal canon incest. Stop it. This is not a safe place for you, and I won’t support that nasty shit.

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small headcanon:

Roman has a samurai sword instead of the typical prince sword because Remus’ logo is the typical prince sword and Roman doesn’t want to make more connections between the two of them

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Threw together a closet cosplay for a darkside!Logan!

Shortly after this, my power went out. And its still not back on :D

⚠He/Him⚠

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Headcanon time:

So in the shorts we already know Sleep and Virgil Anxiety dont get along, and Sleep will refuse to cooperate if hes around.

And we have the widely accepted "Logan has a bad sleep schedule" Headcanon.

So

Where's my "Logan and Remy fight like two girls who were once friends but one small thing happened and now they'd kill eachother given the chance" content?

After all, sleep is a logical necessity. Sleep is required to ensure Logan is running at full power.

But they HATE cooperating. Logan hates being non-productive and Remy cannot DEAL with Logan being such "a dramatic bitch" about going to bed.

They need eachother but want nothing to do with eachother.

But they can bond over coffee. Which is bad for both of them.

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Oh shit Ive found myself shipping Logan and Deciet and I dont even know where to start looking for content for this-

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Logan: Tol and cold

Deciet: smol and very warm

Deciet is a heated teddybear for Logan

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Thomas: