#Does Sam explain?
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I love the idea that Dean wants Sam to agree that Cas is like another brother. The third Winchester brother and Sam is immediately like no. Dean is offended because wtf Sam he's laid his life down for us. While Sam is trying to actively get it through Dean's mind that there is already another brother which Dean waves off. And also it's cool that Dean sees Cas as a brother figure he just doesn't have that type of relationship with Cas. Which is the wrong thing to say apparently. Because well why aren't the two closer? What does it take for Sam to consider someone a brother huh? Does only blood count is that why he considers Adam a brother and not Cas? Meanwhile Sam is just sitting there thinking of all the reasons it would be very concerning if he saw Cas as a brother figure.
#Does Sam explain?#No#Course not#But he does ask Dean what his qualifications for a brother is because he can't just keep adopting anyone as a brother#He gets it with Cas sure but it seems like anyone that isn't actively trying to kill them (which even that isn't a real qualification) -#Dean throws them into a family dynamic#Dean denies it of course while Sam is listing everyone who falls underneath that category#Dean says Sam is worse about it because he adopted Jack#Sam is just ????#You adopt one kid and suddenly you're the one who folds people into the mix of a found family?#Not the guy who consistently holds family as a high regard as respect and isn't subtle about adopting you into his found family?#Sure okay Dean#sam winchester#dean winchester#castiel#sastiel#adam milligan
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one of my favourite aspects of supernatural that you very rarely see in paranormal shows is that sam and dean are already versed in the world they live in. thereâs no sudden discovery of ghosts and demons and now they have to learn about them along with the audience; they are born into it and already know all about it. it allows the audience to follow their personal story instead of also trying to figure out this new world and its rules
the first season is full of knowledge we never see them learn; âw*ndigoes are in the minnesota woods or- or northern michigan. iâve never even heard of one this far west.â [âŚ] âgreat. well then this [his gun] is useless.â (1x02), âyou donât break a curse. you get the hell out of its way.â (1x08), d: âitâs a god. a pagan god, anyway.â [âŚ] âthe annual cycle of its killings? and the fact that the victims are always a man and a woman. like some kind of fertility right.â [âŚ] s: âthe last meal. given to sacrificial victims. d: âyeah, iâm thinking a ritual sacrifice to appease some pagan god.â (1x11)
almost every episode in the first season is a monster theyâve faced before that they then explain to the audience in a way that should feel patronising; like itâs the same speech given over and over again but instead, the audience almost feels included in the knowledge. itâs stated with such an innate confidence and comfort in said knowledge that it feels like we already knew it too; âspirits and demons don't have to unlock doors. if they want inside, they just go through the walls.â [âŚ] âthe claws, the speed that it moves; could be a skinwalker, maybe a black dog.â (1x02), âit's biblical numerology. you know noah's ark, it rained for forty days. the number means death.â (1x04), âno no no, not the reaper, a reaper. there's reaper lore in pretty much every culture on earth, it goes by 100 different names.â [âŚ] âyou said it yourself that the clock stopped, right? reapers stop time. and you can only see 'em when they're coming at you which is why i could see it and you couldn't.â (1x12)
they already know and, at least in the first season, already have what they need to kill whatever theyâre hunting; already know to salt and burn bones for spirits, fire for a w*ndigo, exorcisms for demons, a silver bullet to the heart for shapeshifters. thereâs only three times in the entire first season that they run into something new to them; 1x14 when sam gets his first vision that leads him to another psychic, 1x16 when dean calls caleb for help on the sigil he put together and he tells him about daevas, and 1x20 when they find out vampires are real- and they only donât know that bc john thought they were hunted to extinction and not worth mentioning
(thereâs also technically two half instances if you count one of them knowing something the other doesnât - sam figuring out the tulpa in 1x17 and dean already knowing about the shtriga in 1x18 - but those still rely on sam and dean having prior knowledge)
even when theyâre uncertain about facing something, itâs not bc they donât know what it is; itâs precisely bc they know what it is and acknowledge that itâll be a difficult hunt (âi don't know, man. this isn't our normal gig. i mean, demons, they don't want anything, just death and destruction for its own sake. this is big. and i wish dad was here.â 1x04)
so much of the tension in paranormal shows typically comes from the main character(s) not knowing what is happening to them/the people around them and having to find out how to resolve it. supernatural is unique in that it operates more like a police procedural. the tension comes from solving the clues and identifying patterns to figure out who (what) the killer is and intercepting before they can take another victim
itâs such a different tone to go for when compared to other shows that came both before, during, and after its run. it sets sam and dean on even footing with each other since they both have the same knowledge going in, and it puts them in a place of authority usually reserved for an outside character
the shows i compare spn to most is charmed, buffy and teen wolf; every main character in those shows are brought into the paranormal world knowing nothing, putting them on the same level as the audience, and they have their mc interact with others already knowledgeable about that world in order to overcome their problem/monster of the week. the audience organically learns about this new world as the characters learn about it. itâs a sound writing strategy that prevents âas we already know���-style exposition but something that complicates it is if your world building isnât unique or intriguing enough, this slow introduction can become boring
weâve seen shows like these before; sitting through the same tropes of characters learning to use their powers, struggling with no longer feeling normal/relating to the regular world around them, and not knowing how much they can trust the people already involved in this new world gets repetitive. all three shows eventually reach the same level of comfort with their new world that spn starts with but if the characters arenât enough to draw you in, you can end up dropping it before they reach that point (and often, before the overarching plot can really kick in and evolve the show beyond the villain of the week format)
itâs the superhero origin movie in tv format; dragged out and overplayed. dropping the audience into an established world of course comes with its own problems but you also have the benefit of pre-existing established character dynamics that let the audience slot in like theyâve always been there instead of just getting to know all the characters while the characters also get to know each other
sam and dean already knowing about the supernatural lets the audience immediately get to the core of the story; the conflict between sam and dean, the search for their father, and the mystery of what killed their mother
#i could go on forever theres literally so many examples#dean figuring the âtwo dark doublesâ is a shapeshifter sam figuring out the changing ghost is a tulpa#also peak how many of these examples come from dean despite them pushing so hard for sam to be the one knowing hunting theory#this format is why i cant stand watching the first season of charmed despite loving it so much#i just cant be bothered watching them have the same struggle ive seen a hundred times play out again#different genre but sons of anarchy does this well too; all the characters are already in the club life and already have inner conflict#spn having such a natural introduction makes me so glad they didnt go with the original plan of sam not knowing about hunting#that wouldve been Painful#watching spn so young has really shaped my view of media bc i legit cant stand things with a learning curve#give me an established world damnit#lord of the rings never stops to explain what a dwarf is! you just go with it! and it rules!#dean is just as theoretical and lore savvy as sam and id go as far to say he actually knows more#instead of trying to do this bullshit brains v brawn divide they shouldve done new tech vs analogue#sams laptop is famous and he also knows how to hack thing where the second dean doesnt know something he defaults to books#have dean be the one where if its written down he can find it almost like a proto bobby#they even kind of support that by him being the one to find the phoenix in s6 when they go through all their books#but this was 2005 and characters could only be so conplex and theyd already decided dean needed to be the hot one and sams the nerd one#side note how many of these metas am i going to write on this rewatch? tbd#side side note included all the quotes and episode numbers makes me feel so academic#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#carry on my wayward son#talk meta to me#meta#supernatural meta#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#save post
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samâs demonic blood being framed as a symbol of impurity. deanâs madonna/whore complex and his adoration of âsammyâ as the image of the ideal little brother(wife). sam getting the whore treatment during the demon blood addiction era
sam is very much female coded and the show couldnât be more unsubtle about it
#this is such an important part of his character and it explains so much about deanâs treatment of him during s4-5#by the âpart of his characterâ i mean samâs female coding because it IS very much canon#and it does play a huge role in his dynamics with his father and his brother(husband)#sam winchester#wincest#samdean#spn
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Courtesy of @samhainian: The gang goes on hot ones
Bonus:
mean to them
#told sam abt the canon spice tolerances and she suggested i draw this and who am i to refuse such a funny fucking concept#i like how the background (bc the hot ones set is black) makes it look like they are in the house. i think it is funnier if they are.#in stars and time#isat fanart#isat siffrin#isat loop#siffrin#isat#isat isabeau#isat bonnie#isat mirabelle#isat odile#doodlebyte#a rare non queued art post!#potentially explaining the joke too much but the red is hot sauce yes not anything metatextual. dont worry#revenge for presumably being the interviewer in this scenario. just because you dont have a mouth does not make you immune to spicy
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[SAM ENTERS THE SCENE, FAGGILY]
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reddit dudes proudly saying they leave sam bc the silver is more important and they don't care about some dude they just met bc he's not actually henry's brother kind of makes me sad bc my god people really are that stupid and they're not kidding huh
#does anyone read dialogue anymore. do we listen and learn a goddamn thing anymore#people like that are the reason why i made my reckoning analysis but then i realised you kind of need a brain and a heart to understand#don't get me wrong i fully understand why its an option to leave sam and i explained why its fine in my analysis#BUT these dudes are clearly missing the fact that. they're not henry. your henry being an evil bastard doesn't mean shit bc he still cares#about sam and about his friends . you cant take that from him and that's why he's more compelling than most protagonists . whatever#im talking to the wall as usual i need to delete reddit before i throw something#kcd2 spoilers#six speaks
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new london knights video just dropped !!
#i need to know what halts does that annoying because they did not explain#london knights#i am not tagging everyone#denver barkey#landon sim#ryder boulton#sam dickinson#kasper halttunen#<- mentioned#ldnknghts archive
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im just thinking abt like. sam (almost) never hits back. only under extreme duress. and i really can't imagine him lashing out at partners either, maybe yelling but never physical. and trying to understand why, like does he actually think he's better than dean by not punching? does he seek therapy at stanford? does he just think he deserves it and feels like he's at the bottom of the totem pole everywhere he goes?
literally makes me feel sick. idk i have a Thing for a teenage sam who is like totally opposed to violence (despite being forced on hunts and into sparring and training and loading guns all the time). thereâs that throwaway joke about his idol being gandhi and thereâs the fact that obviously sam doesnt Want any of this, this being Hunting and the constant violence that comes with, so i can just see this thing developing where for a brief period hes like sooo holier than thou about it i am better than you and dad cause i read books and i dont solve my problems by hitting things (which tbh he is so right about! <3) but obviously its just his way of coping with the violence that hes been entrenched in since he was six months old. and this is like literally just inside my head. but in my head its true. that was kind of unrelated actually but also not really
and so yeah i think. idk. violence is sooo normal to sam and dean. i think sam doesnt Want to hit back cause its counterproductive and unnecessary and he prefers to talk things through, like thatâs just not how he deals with things, what use is hitting back going to do? like then theyâd just get into a physical fight. which i dont think he wants. but also 100% even if not consciously i think sam believes he deserves it or at least that its Okay when it happens to him. he literally doesnt even question it. especially like⌠after s4. i think he tends to just accept deans treatment cause hes got this belief deep down that heâll always deserve it, and also even if dean isnât always right he always somehow ends up being right, andâŚ.. so awful.
also i do actually think sam went to therapy at stanford but thats just cause i find it fun to think about. like what did he sayâŚ. how do you even word the trauma of that upbringing. not sure if he actually took any valuable lessons from it or benefitted from it post short-term.
#thank u for the ask i love talking abt them#i feel like when they were younger sam wouldâve hit back more maybe. and it wouldve ended up in actual physical fights/sparring#and i just think idk. sam is wordsy. he does prelaw. hes talkative about things he likes and he relishes explaining cases and hes more#comfortable in a verbal fight. despite his obvious physical strength. meanwhile dean runs out of words to say thatll make sam do what he#wants (slash words to say in general) and throws a punch.#but then its also that sam doesnt even really take an issue with it. from what we see in canon. heâs just like. okay. you satisfied? hit me#all you want it wonât change anything. he barely seems to register it its just part of Dean. which is SO fucked up. <3#he just!! accepts that this is what dean does if hes angry with sam or about sam or near sam. like.#spn#oliver talks#sam winchester#sam & dean#also anon who r youuu i love you#poison in the water
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Supernatural, Season 7, Episode 12
Time after Time after Time
âI hope youâre watching cartoon smut , because reading Dick Roman crap over and over again is just self punishmentâ - Sam
âItâs called anime , and itâs an art formâ - Dean
hard to believe that Sam wouldnât know that cartoons smut is called anime.. (ik itâs a joke).
âYou gonna look more anime or are you strictly into Dick nowâ - Sam
1944? Eliot Ness (Had to look him up because iâm not American) Apparently he took down Al Capone (Who I know)
I like that Jody is there for them.
OMG, DEAN LOOKS SO FINE. Did Eliot just whistle at him? Woah. Understandable.
Wait this lady in the past? Does she.. have some relation with Bobby? Shes just like him? Idk maybe iâm reaching.
Woah carving Sam into the woodwork⌠good job.
âI rode him to 1944â Bwahahahaah
This reminded me of like the OG trickster episode
#dean winchester#spn#supernatural#supernatural fandom#sam winchester#spnfamily#spn dean#spn demons#spn first watch#spn quotes#spn sam#sam spn#dean spn#quotes spn#spn s7#spn sam and dean#spn sam winchester#sam winchester spn#spn dean winchester#the winchester boys#iâm staring to doubt how these hashtags work#why does no one put up hashtags like i do and most of the time theyâre jusy what people want to say?#someone explain the ways of tumblr to me please#the winchesters#winchester#sam#and dean#supernatural show#spn.#dean and sam
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Admittedly, I donât know very much at all about the Vietnam War, active military, and Iâm particularly bad with math. But I Donât Think I Understand John Winchesterâs Military Service And Timeline. (If you do Please Help)
US military involvement with Vietnam ends on March 29th, 1973, the same year that the events of âIn The Beginningâ takes place. John Winchester is born in April of 1954, he is a month shy of being 19 at the end of the war. The Winchesters apparently clarified that John illegally enlisted while underage, which I can buy up to a point. But military contracts are 4/6/8 year contracts. Additionally, I believe the line in the Winchesters says that he forged his fatherâs signature specifically, meaning he enlisted with parental approval, which only 17 year olds could do. (He also had a fiance at this timeâŚ)
If John is a free man in 1973 after, at best, a four year contract, then a 15 year old John Winchester fooled an admittedly desperate military apparatus and spent his high school years not just in Vietnam, but also at least briefly as a POW. (It did happen, at least one 15 year old was killed in action and five 16 year olds were as well.)
Now, Dean Winchester is born in 1979, so it is understandable that John has to be able to meet Mary before that point. John also has to have at least a 12 month tour in Vietnam, so being deployed at the latest in 1972.
But Iâm not sure that John and Mary really need six years of not doing much between the events of In The Beginning and Deanâs birth? Is it just so Mary making the demon deal to save John when she canât save either of her parents can be a twisted parallel to the biblical âleave the house of your parents and cleave unto your husbandâ notion of commitment?
As I understand canon, John is born in 1954, at the start of the Vietnam war, Henry Winchester goes missing in 1958, John forges documentation to enlist at 15 in 1969, serves a 4 year contract and is a 19 year old war vet who spent time as a POW buying his first car in âIn the Beginning.â And his girlfriend, Mary Winchester, survives her parents being brutally murdered in a single night, and then we check in five years later and Johnâs a mechanic and Mary is pregnant.
#john winchester#Like being an actual child soldier in Nam does explain why he can live with how he raises his sons a bit. But Holy Shit.#What a detail to just Never Ever Ever talk about#I know this is the CW I know that what likely happened was John was supposed to be older than Mary but they just forgot to do that.#All of this started because I wanted to have Sam point out that Dean was almost a bastard because John and Mary only knew each other a year#Before Dean was born. Because if Johnâs an orphan heâll sign a 6 year contract at 17. Deploy 1972 and get discharged in 77.#The angels are making them kiss like Barbies and Mary has been an orphan hunter for four years. She Wants Out She Wants A Family.#Mary marries John because she doesnât want to rot in a ditch after that hunt gone wrong. And instead her death haunts her whole family.#Sorry this was just a throwaway line about Dean being the result of Mary and John boinking immediately in the back of that Impala RAW.
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Okay, this vibe:
I know you would love me if I asked you to, but I can never ask that of you. I'll love from afar where I can never force you to love me.
Sastiel, both believing this, especially Cas.
#Does this make sense if not it does but I'll explain later#sam winchester#castiel#sastiel#samstiel#samcas#Will explain when I'm not so fucking tired
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Hello this is the anon that you said could spam talk to you too ^^
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HELLO SPAM-NON!!! WAVES EXCITEDLY LIKE A FERAL BEAST
I'M SO GLAD YOU ENJOY MY WORK SO FAR!! I'M WRITING MORE CROSSOVER STUFFS WHEN I'M NOT DOZING OFF EVERY FIVE MINUTES!! I PROMISE!!!
Unfortunately I have stopped for now because my cold medicine made me extremely tired, I can barely stay awake to eat dinner :(
but I promise you 'non, you'll eat more, I wholeheartedly promise (I have two crossover wips in my drafts as we speak)
You'll also happily get more of my au by itself, it has a genuine plotline and everything I just need to uh... Finish the real story and post it. Lol.
The drabbles I post here aren't exactly chapters, just me exploring different scenarios in my au, they do reference each other a lot tho! :D
I'll put my writing tags in the tags for easier access! I hope you continue to enjoy our works!!!! âĄâĄ
#kai rambles#kai answers#anon ask#okay so now we get to the writing tags so you can find my fics better#kai's writing#<- general fanfic tag#caretaker Shanon au#<- has the au related drabbles; headcannons and now fanart attached to it!#just a fair warning all of them have a LOT of shellevision#I'm posting a Sprout story of my au later on that doesn't have shellevision in it though but the rest does#though the one with Sprout is part of the caretaker au as it explains why he's suddenly there with Sam in the latest drabble#and that should be all#dandys world
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S9E1 Castiel being freshly human, not understanding a thing of what's going on, fully aware that a.lot. of angels would very much like to kill him just.because meets a random angel on the street (Hael) and he's like: LET'S GO SEE THE GRAND CANYON TOGETHER, WOO-HOOO!
#do you understand what i mean?#i haven't really explained anything. just describing#but im looking fir people who understand my vision based on vibes alone#castiel#character of all time#spn s9#supernatural#spn angels#that frigging angel. im not gonna say he's the cause for heaven's eventual demise because angels do have a penchant for killing each others#but i love how he would not hesitate to kill his siblings and still asking/wanting to be one of them#and it's not a contradiction because: angels.but it does show how his connection to the heavenly host is not just about grace#when in s15 he tells dean that he and sam have each other. well. that line is fucking sad#because cas' family is the ultimate âfamily is hellâ dysfunctional family#and i'm not 100% sure he's able to heal this trauma before he dies if i'm gonna be honest#like. who broke the connection? yes and no. more like: is the connection really broken?#cause it doesn't look like it. there's still a sort of spark of hope in castiel when it comes to angels#like he KNOWS there's nothing for him there but he still feels a tiny bit of longing that never goes away#it's heartbreaking really#i really wish the show had developed the âmy grace is fading. deanâ storyline#it came from nowhere and went to nowhere. it was just there to signal castiel's final self-actualization#but i mean did he really? mmmmmmh not sure about that#first and onlt thing we know is that he went back to heaven and reorganized the place. I MEAN. COME ON.#the relationship between that angel and heaven keeps me awake at night. i love it.#spn s9 is complicated
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one thing you gotta know about me: if you put a tragic beefy blond dude in any sort of media i consume i will simply lose my mind btw. now i have to defend them forever and call them my babies for eternity. i am collecting these men.... conducting my research on why they own my ass like this.
#i dont talk abt steve tbh bc the mcu died when he was gone jdkdd and ENDGAME DID HIM SO DIRTY but. i love him love him love him#i adore bucky i adore sam too.#reiner is my sweet beloved and he is so so ANGSTY and i just. jesus fucking christ#i absolutely loved him from the start. the way he was so selfless and brave.#just wanted to be a good kid#sobbing#he owns my heart he does indeed#AND LEON. god#i dont even need to explain#stupid idiot. i need to die in his arms. and kiss his forehead. the silly idiot he is.#boludeces y reclamos mios(?#mine#steve rogers#reiner braun#leon kennedy
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Destiel fic with background psychic kids poly send post
#or another dean pairing tbh any would work#as long as we see every psychic kid and the polycule is complicated and never fully explained#this is Sam and his boyfriend jake and his boyfriend and Andy and his girlfriend Ava and her girlfriend lily#and this Andyâs weird brother#like just confusing gilmpses into Samâs dating life#and like heâs having dramatic breakups and jake stabbed him in the back and Ava is super controlling and lily wants to break up with them a-#but all in the background of a very domestic wholesome destiel fic#like I just need Samâs weird vibe to carry over into it#he swears off romance for a while and then meets Rowena and does blood magic with her within hours of meeting her#can be au or in universe#this is my dream
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sam is so pookie in this new ep, actual blorbo behaviour
#tmagp vague#i cant explain why and how he just is#he is so doomed by the narrative and i love ot#also so blind to the dangers luring in front of him#WHY DOES HE KEEP FILLING IN THOSE DOCUMENTS????#hes so horror protagonist that signs his death warrant#sam khalid
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